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Has anyone else noticed that with either Windows Media Player or the HTC Audio Manager, it will always use the same shuffle order? Doesn't this defeat the purpose? Anyone know how to get it to "reshuffle" with every play. I am getting tired of hearing my play lists in the same order everytime.
jgermuga said:
Has anyone else noticed that with either Windows Media Player or the HTC Audio Manager, it will always use the same shuffle order? Doesn't this defeat the purpose? Anyone know how to get it to "reshuffle" with every play. I am getting tired of hearing my play lists in the same order everytime.
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Amen, thought I was the only one who noticed this!
Yes, surprising isn't it. Even a using a search on all forums didn't turn up this same question. I think this is true for Wondows Media Player on all devices, or at least the one's I have owned. Would be nice is HTC could provide a shuffle option that actually shuffles with the Audio Manager. Perhaps they should call it "Reorder" instead of "Shuffle".
Just searched and this is the only thread I could find on this problem.
My media player doesn't actually play the library in folder order, but seems to shuffling only a few songs on the list.
Is playing them from the library the only option? - you can play only one song at a time when accessing the music folder with windows explorer.
to "reshuffle" have you tried turning off shuffle, selecting another track, playing it, then turn shuffle back on.
Thanks for the suggestion - yes I've tried that, but it just seems so hit and miss with the Windows media player and the shuffle play seems to repeat a few tracks too often.
I've now installed MortPlayer and it's working great, so I'm not going to bother with the WM player now.
Thanks.
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to "reshuffle" have you tried turning off shuffle, selecting another track, playing it, then turn shuffle back on.
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Yes, this is my half baked solution. I just scroll down and start a few songs later in the list as it is sorted via the playlist. It still does not "shuffle" though, just puts me at a different point in the (properly termed...) reordered playlist. If it's a short playlist though, you will figure out pretty quickly that the songs go in the same order every time, you just started at a different point.
In computing, the random doesn't exist, we can only approach it by simulating.
You won't never get a "real" shuffle. When you select this mode in WMP or HTC audio manager, it follows an algorithm, that's why you always hear songs in the same order with the same playlist. The best way is to change your playlist.
I hope this explanation is helpful and clear, and if somebody can give us more details on the subject, don't hesitate (I like learning more and more )
sarce39 said:
In computing, the random doesn't exist, we can only approach it by simulating.
You won't never get a "real" shuffle. When you select this mode in WMP or HTC audio manager, it follows an algorithm, that's why you always hear songs in the same order with the same playlist. The best way is to change your playlist.
I hope this explanation is helpful and clear, and if somebody can give us more details on the subject, don't hesitate (I like learning more and more )
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I hear what you saying regarding computers not being good at random, but I can tell you that this MortPlayer is doing a damn fine job of it.
I think that these workarounds with the playlist are a poor reflection on WM media player - I have about 1.5G in my music folder and MortPlayer can shuffle the lot without the need to first create a playlist.
I didn't say that you need to create a playlist. On the contrary, more the numbers of songs is high, more the order in which you will hear its is changing, because the probability of finding the song "m" on a sample "M" diminishes when you increase "M" ( "M " can be a playlist or 1.5 GB of songs)
I've recently started using HTC's Audio Manager instead of Windows Media on my Tytn II, and I like everything about it except the way it sorts songs on an album. All of my songs are tagged with '01', '02', etc. in the beginning of the song title, and Windows Media correctly understands this and puts the songs in the order they appear on the album. However, Audio Manager only orders the songs in alphabetical order regardless of the order the songs appear on the album (even though the tags exist that should make them sort correctly). Anyone else notice this? Is there a fix for this?
i got the same problem...anyone know how to solve this?
audio manager track listing
yep, couldn't agree more- audio manager is great and with an 8gb sd card- i have an iphone killer. however the track listing problem really pisses me off. anyone got any ideas out there?
someone on this forum said that there is a new version of audio manager on the touch dual which doesn't have that bug anymore but i haven't seen it here yet...
When you originally rip the files on your PC the mp3 files have to have the track number information associated with them.
Go back to the files on WM player on your PC and right click then open 'Advanced Tag editor' ( the standard tags are being replaced) to change the track number or simply right click on the album and use 'Find Album info' as it will do all this for you.
Hope this helps.
Farsquidge said:
When you originally rip the files on your PC the mp3 files have to have the track number information associated with them.
Go back to the files on WM player on your PC and right click then open 'Advanced Tag editor' ( the standard tags are being replaced) to change the track number or simply right click on the album and use 'Find Album info' as it will do all this for you.
Hope this helps.
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we meant the htc audio manager not the wmp...wmp is working fine...the mp3s are tagged correctly...
xAcEx said:
we meant the htc audio manager not the wmp...wmp is working fine...the mp3s are tagged correctly...
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Yeah but did you know WM pocket player uses 'old' tags and HTC's uses the new advanced v2 ?? (that's why I mentioned them!!)
Soz you will even find this prob in early versions of TCPMP.
Just trying to help.
Try dutty's htc audio manager:
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robertlewisca said:
I've recently started using HTC's Audio Manager instead of Windows Media on my Tytn II, and I like everything about it except the way it sorts songs on an album. All of my songs are tagged with '01', '02', etc. in the beginning of the song title, and Windows Media correctly understands this and puts the songs in the order they appear on the album. However, Audio Manager only orders the songs in alphabetical order regardless of the order the songs appear on the album (even though the tags exist that should make them sort correctly). Anyone else notice this? Is there a fix for this?
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I think this is the same version as above, but I can guarantee it works as you want:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1656801&postcount=448
This is really a useful app now. I just ditched WMP out of my cube.
-R
Hello everyone,
audio manager searches the whole phone for mp3s. since i have quite a few mp3 ringtones it is very annoying when htc audio manager thinks the mp3 ringtones are music files too.
is there any way that i can make htc audio manager only search a specific folder on my wings for music? this way i wouldnt have to remove the entries everytime or i wouldnt have to make new playlists every time...
thanks
no solution right????????
Sure...
Place your ringtones in the path noted in the registry value:
HKLM\Software\HTC\AudioManager\ring_tone_path
Default value: \My Documents\My Ringtones\
Done.
Now help with my _setup.xml
this solution doesnt work because the sound files from the windows operating system are still included in the default playlist of the player. so for example im listening to music, then suddenly i hear the "battery empty" sound and it scares the **** out of me because i think my phone ran outta battery AGAIN
that's interesting. those sounds don't show up in my library.
That is very weird, I dont have those sounds either, could you have changed something somewhere that import's every music file on the phone & card?
Guys I have a about 1 GB of music on my memory card and guess what the HTC Audio manager does not play music anymore. It shows me all the tracks I can scroll through the list but as soon as I press the button to play it pauses and then reboots the phone.
Howevr, I can play the same music via the windows music player. So there is nothing wrong with the memeory of the music tracks.
Any suggestions
Call HTC Tech support, reset the phone to default settings. Sounds like something is causing an error and then a reboot. Or something infected the phone and now its sick. I would reset the phone first then call HTC and see if they can help. Plausable they shipped it out with a bug...
I think the newer versions of the HTC audio manager uses a different registry entry device_scan_path and device_scan_path_path0
just enter where your music files are located under these entries and put the ringtones somewhere else. this worked for me.
I too am look to solve this problem... I had downloaded a bunch of extra sounds for my verious notifications. currently I have them stared on my sd card \Storage Card\My Documents. My Music is on \Storage Card\Music. When I start up AudioManager it finds the files in both folders. I changed the 2 registry key and put them both the same witch place the songs 2x in the library and I also tried leaving the second entry black. both occasions the files from noth folders were in there.
macaraballojr said:
I too am look to solve this problem... I had downloaded a bunch of extra sounds for my verious notifications. currently I have them stared on my sd card \Storage Card\My Documents. My Music is on \Storage Card\Music. When I start up AudioManager it finds the files in both folders. I changed the 2 registry key and put them both the same witch place the songs 2x in the library and I also tried leaving the second entry black. both occasions the files from noth folders were in there.
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Have you tried moving your ring tones and such music off the SD card and into the handset location for that type of audio file? Also check in audio manager, I havnt looked recently but I thought you could tell it to check only the SD card? Maybe I am just loopy (wouldnt surprise me)...
10332007 said:
Have you tried moving your ring tones and such music off the SD card and into the handset location for that type of audio file? Also check in audio manager, I havnt looked recently but I thought you could tell it to check only the SD card? Maybe I am just loopy (wouldnt surprise me)...
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I really didnt want to move them to the device cuz there are so many i dont have that much room on the device... And I been through the registry and program itself all weekend with no luck.
macaraballojr said:
I really didnt want to move them to the device cuz there are so many i dont have that much room on the device... And I been through the registry and program itself all weekend with no luck.
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I'm not suggesting you move your music, just the files that are not for musical enjoyment, the other misc sounds that get used for ring tones etc off the card. Its been a while since I have been in audio manager and will have to play around with it.
10332007 said:
I'm not suggesting you move your music, just the files that are not for musical enjoyment, the other misc sounds that get used for ring tones etc off the card. Its been a while since I have been in audio manager and will have to play around with it.
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THats what I am talking about also... I dl a zip file with a bunch of sound (not music) too much to move to the device
Hmm I recall Audio Manager having more options, but I am not always with it
If I have the time I can take a peak into the registry but others are more aptly suited for such an adventure.
For now my suggestion (if you have not already done this) is make play lists, I dont know how much you have as music and how much is random audio clips. You can also try going through and removing some of the audio clips you are not using? With playlists at least while the program may list all the music files on the card the ones you dont want to hear wont be in your playlists so you wont have to worry about them quite as much...
I have the same problem. I've modified also the registers but there is no effect.
Thx for help, i had the same problem on HD2
Hallo, I have problem with file association for HTC Audio Manager.
When I set .mp3 [audiomanager.exe "%1"] in Advanced Configuration Tool (File associations section ) and launch .mp3 file example from File Explorer, Audio manager run, but without playing. On screen is old mp3 file from previos playing...
When I set .mp3 back to [WMPlayer.exe "%1"] and launch some .mp3 file, Windows media player run and play .mp3 file which I select. It is correct.
I need to run .MP3 file and launch and play it with Audiomanager, not WMP.
Help me, please.
you don't need to associate mp3s unless you want to associate a certain program to play it while browsing in a file explorer.by default audiomanager will detect the mp3 in the library and should play it back with no issues
Thanks for replay. Unfortunately, I need to associate MP3 with Audio Manager.
I use pRSSread for downloading and managing podcasts. When I run podcast from this program (it is same like run from File Manager), only WinMedia play podcast correct. Audio Manager open itself, but do not play selected file, see my previous post. :-(
I want to play MP3 from pRSSread on Audio manager. This program is more comfortable, powerful volume, nice bar on HTC Home, display MP3 tags, ...
Is there anybody, who can run MP3 in file manager and Audio Manager open and play?
It is strange, that I am alone with wants of this function...
Thank you!
Nope you're not alone. I just stumbled upon this thread searching for the exact same answer for the exact same reason... this problem is so freaking annoying. I'd rather have it launch into HTC's Audio Manager because I love the UI compared to all others players I've used. Plus I can turn off the display, and it keeps playing, if I could figure out how to make Windows Media Player do this instead of stop playing the podcast than I might settle for that as a work around.
Another annoying thing you may have noticed is it doesn't support PLS files either.
Termiter said:
Is there anybody, who can run MP3 in file manager and Audio Manager open and play?
It is strange, that I am alone with wants of this function...
Thank you!
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After trying to open an .mp3 file directly with audiomanager (using Resco Explorer) it stoped working.... Now it does open, but it skips all files in the library one by one, not playing even one of them.... whats happening??? any solution?
Termiter said:
Thanks for replay. Unfortunately, I need to associate MP3 with Audio Manager.
I use pRSSread for downloading and managing podcasts. When I run podcast from this program (it is same like run from File Manager), only WinMedia play podcast correct. Audio Manager open itself, but do not play selected file, see my previous post. :-(
I want to play MP3 from pRSSread on Audio manager. This program is more comfortable, powerful volume, nice bar on HTC Home, display MP3 tags, ...
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I fully agree with you... after hard resetting my P3300 Audio Manager is not able to find any titles to play! I spent a long time playing with playlist editors and trying to copy music files to almost every location but it still does not seem to work. I read it does not play files which does not have id3 tags and also it plays files only from device - not the storage card. Further analysis could get me the real cause of the problem but I am already exhausted. Any help guys? Do drop me a note please
I have searched far and wide through this forum, and also googled it, and there doesn't seem to be an answer, so I will bring it up again. I have imported pretty much all of my music with iTunes, which tagged and organized all my music. However, when I put my music onto my nexus one, many many albums get sorted into "unknown artist" when all of my music is nicely sorted in folders by artists. This seems very strange to me. People have suggested double twist and a few other various programs, but no one has given any input as to whether these programs worked. Does anyone have an answer for this?
As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.
adamhlj said:
As I was looking through the albums that have been filed as "unknown artist" I noticed that each song had a number infront of it as the designation of which song number each song on the album was. I am going to play with this tomorrow and see if editing each track (this is going to suck, I have over 4000 songs in my library!!!!) will help at all.
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well froyo will have the ability to play music OTA from itunes with an update for the music application in the market after froyo releases. it may fix the problem. if you can wait for a few weeks it may be resolved. as for being put as unknown, maybe the artist is not tagged correctly. check the mp3 tags to make sure that data is there
Your ID3 tags are screwed up. Your filenames don't matter, it's the ID3 tags.
Use MP3Tag (google it), it's one of the best taggers there is.
+1 for mp3tag
been using it for years
I dont let any programs "automatically organize" my music
becareful with it though, if you mass edit something incorrectly you could find that all of your tags get messed up
try music folder on the market
Well, thank you very much for the info! I will look into it today and hopefully get my music all sorted out!
I have the very same problem.
Most of the replies here seem to suggest that retagging the mp3s will solve the issue. However, all of my mp3s were working correctly before I upgraded to Froyo. To confirm this, I've just done a restore to cyanogen 5 and sure enough, all were working fine again.
When I used easytag to fix some of the files, they still didn't show up the correct information under Froyo. So, there's definitely something fishy going on here!
I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
A seperate issue tho is embedded albumn art doesnt show up for a couple of albumns. The tags are identical to other albumns that work, and so are the image file types used to create the cover art. Anoying! These are the kind of little niggly problems that make jo public buy an iphone
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I have similar problems sometimes when there are multiple tags (id2,id3 etc). Using an app to clean the tags and reapply them in a uniform way usually works tho.
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What app would you suggest to clean them up? I've tried using MP3Tagger Pro, but I'm a complete n00b at this sort of thing.
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
adamhlj said:
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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Thanks for your reply!
adamhlj said:
I downloaded MP3Tag, and that did the trick. the only thing is that It does take a long time to get everything set up. And I downloaded the album art from amazon. I have only fixed a few albums, tho. I have over 4000 songs in my library, so I am only doing the ones that I have on my storage card at the moment.
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If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library
So I had something strange happen. Ever since I got the update for froyo, all the music on my SD card has been properly tagged (at least it gets sorted correctly by artist, album, etc.) Hooray for FROYO!!
disgustip8ted said:
If it makes you feel any better I have over 12000 tracks and some were tagged badly that I pulled from a friemds music library
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Oh man, that SUCKS!!! i am glad i am not you, lol.
Android music library issues
Hi,
Here is the issue: after installing cyanogenmod 7 on my HD2, I have tranfered about 5Go of music from my pc to the sd card.
The problem is that all these mp3 have proper mp3 tag in ID3 v2.3 in UTF-8, but they are all recognized as "Unknown artists" mp3, and the album is just the folder.
I have tried to transfer an alicia keys album (only a single album) to the phone, also in id3 v2.3, and it is correctly tagged and recognized.
So I've tried to delete de media storage data, and reboot the phone.
At the start up, the system rescan the entirer sd card, but now the alicia keys albums are recognized as "unknown artist" and the album is also just the mp3 folder.
I have the same issue when rescanning with meridian player.
The problem seems to appears only when there are several folder of mp3/large amount of mp3 files to scan ex: >1Gb)
At this point, I've understood several points:
1. android can correctly read mp3 music with tags in ID3 V2.3
2. massive scan of music seems to be the cause of incorrect recognition of mp3 from android.
At this point, is there a way to properly scan mp3 with there tags, even in a massive scan ?