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Diamond Vs Sony X1

There seems to be some discussion about this spread through all the threads.. with the new whitepaper released by sony today on the X1 its a good excuse to start a thread
http://developer.sonyericsson.com/getDocument.do?docId=100340
What do you think.. X1 worth waiting for, or diamond?

well im sitting on the fence atm.
the X1 is also made by HTC so hacking it to bits will be fine as its got a similar bootloader and rom structure as other HTC devices.
the specs of the x1 are promising....

jasjamming said:
well im sitting on the fence atm.
the X1 is also made by HTC so hacking it to bits will be fine as its got a similar bootloader and rom structure as other HTC devices.
the specs of the x1 are promising....
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stop being ***** and just buy one!
haha, look the X1 does look hot but its still "think" compared to the Diamond. But who knows, i might get one depending on the Raphel...

walshieau said:
stop being ***** and just buy one!
haha, look the X1 does look hot but its still "think" compared to the Diamond. But who knows, i might get one depending on the Raphel...
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you're the ***** with a diamond... haha
yes its thick compared to the diamond but the x1 is more proportionate to my other toy down there,

jasjamming said:
well im sitting on the fence atm.
the X1 is also made by HTC so hacking it to bits will be fine as its got a similar bootloader and rom structure as other HTC devices.
the specs of the x1 are promising....
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X1 seems to have the same problem as Kaisers. When you go from portrait to landscape it takes too long. I'm using a fast rom which corrects that, but I'm not sure how the Sony will work.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FhF-T6HC03c&feature=related
Videos like that have forced me to not even think about it. Go with the Diamond if you have the cash to dish it out.

jasjamming said:
you're the ***** with a diamond... haha
yes its thick compared to the diamond but the x1 is more proportionate to my other toy down there,
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yeah but still, the onscreen keyboard on my diamond is killer!!!

the concept of the X1 is stupid to me. i just dont get why you need different idle screen for different places, like who is really gonna move locations and be like "o im not at home anymore, let me go on my phone and change my desktop." Its really not that serious. All i need is one screen to get Sh!t done, not nine. its a big waste of time and proccessing power, and ram IMO

newone757 said:
the concept of the X1 is stupid to me. i just dont get why you need different idle screen for different places, like who is really gonna move locations and be like "o im not at home anymore, let me go on my phone and change my desktop." Its really not that serious. All i need is one screen to get Sh!t done, not nine. its a big waste of time and proccessing power, and ram IMO
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dont knock it till you try it.

i like everything about the diamond except for its lack of a full hardware qwerty keyboard. after seeing that video of the X1, i was actually really disappointed, and the diamond seems great, but i dont htink i can live without the keyboard lol. ill give it time, who knows maybe the diamond interface (manila) can be pulled to the X1 when it comes out, cuz really, thats the one think that sets the diamond apart. processing power is on par with the X1, ram i belieave is equal. im not sure about the X1 graphics but if it can run manilla, then i know what im getting.

Yes, I thought X1 was pretty cool at first, the specs and all, but then if you think about it, have like 6 or 9? virtual desktops is pretty redundant, and is basically a fancier task manager. I am sure it must have better uses, but so far, it seems that's the only thing that they have facelift, if they were to have the facelifts in the Home Screen like the Diamond, then I'd say X1 is better, because of the bigger screen. Just my opinion...

If you have the money to just upgrade to a new phone when you see a new one you like you might as well wait for the X1.
Personally though, I don't see the jump to the Diamond or X1 worth it when Android and Windows Mobile 7 are just around the corner.

i want micoSD not just for storage upgrades but also for SDIO cards which can bring new functionality to a device
so i'd rather get X1

newone757 said:
the concept of the X1 is stupid to me. i just dont get why you need different idle screen for different places, like who is really gonna move locations and be like "o im not at home anymore, let me go on my phone and change my desktop." Its really not that serious. All i need is one screen to get Sh!t done, not nine. its a big waste of time and proccessing power, and ram IMO
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I completely agree. The multiple desktops are a nice idea, but I don't think that they have much practical advantage over a single desktop. TouchFLO, meanwhile, has been proved to be useful. Also, as a keyboard-hater, for me the X1 simply doesn't stand a chance compared to the Touch Diamond.

I think they're two different devices. The X1 may only seem a little bit bigger, but its all about 'volume' with phones, and 5 or 10mm in each direction ends up alot bigger.
The X1 sounds like its going to be faster if you remove the fluff and use it seriously, but then if you're considering the diamond, you're just as interested in looks and flash as the hardware.
I know the X1 should look alot better in real life (there's alot of metal), but i really hate that triangle/square button look on the bottom.
Its diamond for me i think.. but ask me again in september.. i might have a diamond for sale

Maybe the MDA Vario IV is more appropriate comparison to the Xperia X1 than the Diamond.
http://www.slashphone.com/t-mobile-announces-mda-compact-iv-and-mda-vario-iv-28550

if they used that 9 screen plugin as a taskmanager instead of virtual desktops id be imppressed. That be THE best multitasking tool out, even better than most computer setups

Don’t get your hopes up just yet, as I think it’s just a today screen plugin that changes the home screen to presets. So not that useful, it’s also very laggy at the moment, but no one has seen it on 256MB RAM

Does anyone know if the Xperia has a flat bezel, like the touch devices? I find that touchpal allows for faster typing than a keyboard and its great for one handed use. Their new verision allows for precise input. If the xperia one has a flat bezel id pick it. I really dont think it does so i wont get it.
As for the SD slot. i have an 8gig micro sd and i have yet to use more than 2 gigs of it.

nobody know how the x1 will performe as the GUI shown so far i very Alpha maybe even little more then proof of concept
which is also why it's not ready to be released yet
about
the look and feel go here
http://www.umpcportal.com/2008/05/exclusive-preview-24-hours-with-the-sony-ericsson-xperia-x1/

myv6mustang said:
Does anyone know if the Xperia has a flat bezel, like the touch devices? I find that touchpal allows for faster typing than a keyboard and its great for one handed use. Their new verision allows for precise input. If the xperia one has a flat bezel id pick it. I really dont think it does so i wont get it.
As for the SD slot. i have an 8gig micro sd and i have yet to use more than 2 gigs of it.
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Yes its flat.

ADVICE: touch cruise to diamond

I have sold my cruise but now I'm interesting to diamond some advice? I' ve some troubles about it

if u can wait buy htc touch pro. has everything diamond does (minus front camera) plus a hardware kb and memory slot.

thesire said:
if u can wait buy htc touch pro. has everything diamond does (minus front camera) plus a hardware kb and memory slot.
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I saw...and it has also flash... why minus front camera?

i could only speculate, but it's probably pretty cramped in there..

some info about release dates of touch pro??

SMASH1902 said:
some info about release dates of touch pro??
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Later this summer i would imagine...no price but i would take a guess that its going to be a bit more expensive than the Diamond.

i have sold my polaris and i'm waiting for touch pro now i have only a sonyericsson z600 damn

i think real keyboard is meaningless. Diamond without a real keyboard is better, when you hold it on your hand, you will feel it looks more like a real phone. not holding a huge monster on your hand.
the new virtual full QWERTY keyboard will change your mind. find any friends can hand you to try the real HTC diamond.

FFS why do people moan on about the keyboard adding thickness. It's 6.7mm extra, that's like an ipod nano.
So if you already have a thinner device, please say, but if not, then don't moan.
Ok I did some research on all HTC's Pocket PC Phones and came up with thse devices whch are thinner
Artemis 16.8mm
Niki 15.8mm
Polaris 15.5mm
Elf 13.9mm
Advantage 16mm
So this shows us that the Touch Pro is the thinnest device that HTC has produced with a proper keyboard
Specs here
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...11&id7=736&id8=729&id9=733&id10=506&id11=1320

andrewloh said:
i think real keyboard is meaningless. Diamond without a real keyboard is better, when you hold it on your hand, you will feel it looks more like a real phone. not holding a huge monster on your hand.
the new virtual full QWERTY keyboard will change your mind. find any friends can hand you to try the real HTC diamond.
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I had a tytn and a touch cruise...cruise is more handling because was more slim but keyboard on tytn was very useful...
Some specs stop me in my decision:
htc diamond: positive ---> it is present a 4gb hd
negative--->no flash camera e no expansion slot
htc touch pro: positive ---> flash camera more ram than in diamond expansion slot
negative----->qwerty keyboard is more useful but the device it is no so handling as diamond

rorydaredkign said:
FFS why do people moan on about the keyboard adding thickness. It's 6.7mm extra, that's like an ipod nano.
So if you already have a thinner device, please say, but if not, then don't moan.
Ok I did some research on all HTC's Pocket PC Phones and came up with thse devices whch are thinner
Artemis 16.8mm
Niki 15.8mm
Polaris 15.5mm
Elf 13.9mm
Advantage 16mm
So this shows us that the Touch Pro is the thinnest device that HTC has produced with a proper keyboard
Specs here
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacom...11&id7=736&id8=729&id9=733&id10=506&id11=1320
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We have every right to moan about the keyboard. Some of us just don't need it, and it increases the thickness by around 50% (and decreases the style by 90%).
In automotive terms, it's a bit like buying a car with a steering wheel and a rudder. confused
Anyway, the fact that it has a flash is good, and the keyboard does seem to be one of the best that HTC have produced. I might get one as a backup device...

Decreases style by 90%?
And how do you measure style?
Considering some of the things you've called stylish, I shall disregard this comment

rorydaredkign said:
Decreases style by 90%?
And how do you measure style?
Considering some of the things you've called stylish, I shall disregard this comment
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lol
I'm obviously just pointing out that it looses a lot of its style through its thickness.

Diamond to Blackstone (Touch HD)...any takers??

Well the release of the Touch HD is imminent for the first week of November....is there anyone out there thinking of making the transition??
I love my Diamond, but the attraction of bigger battery, bigger screen, micro SD card, etc makes this device pretty attractive...especially since all else is like for like
Not sure what I'm talking about, then check here....(language not english...but you get it )
http://www.mobiletechaddicts.com/2008/10/21/htc-touch-hd-unboxing-video/
Nice quick visual comparison to both iphone and Diamond Pro.....
Looking forward to comments........

PJ6363 said:
Well the release of the Touch HD is imminent for the first week of November....is there anyone out there thinking of making the transition??
I love my Diamond, but the attraction of bigger battery, bigger screen, micro SD card, etc makes this device pretty attractive...especially since all else is like for like
Not sure what I'm talking about, then check here....(language not english...but you get it )
http://www.mobiletechaddicts.com/2008/10/21/htc-touch-hd-unboxing-video/
Nice quick visual comparison to both iphone and Diamond Pro.....
Looking forward to comments........
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Love the diamond, but definitely moving to the Touch HD!

OK, just got a nice comparison video to the Diamond
hmmmm very sexy now as not much bigger dimensionally, but what a nice screen and appears quite "quick" when operating...
http://www.mobiletechaddicts.com/2008/10/14/htc-touch-hd-video-eye-candy/

Looks sexy, but i feel like they did not adapt a single byte of TouchFlo to the bigger screen capacity.
Check the home screem for instance, still just the Call history and tzhe calendar there PLUS some extra black space below... Thats ridicilous.
But I hope someone can extract that "stock" app :O:O wowooo

As long as there is no US 3G on it, i won't be getting it. I will probably get the Touch Pro when it's released on at&t. Also, the spec is all the same except a slightly bigger ram, and screen, so i'm probably not gonna waste my money on it, if i didnt get the touch pro and wait for the next update.

na i'll stick to the diamond till winmob7 devices are are comming.
also i think the advantage of the bigger akku will be reduced to the larger screen.

Hornet331 said:
na i'll stick to the diamond till winmob7 devices are are comming.
also i think the advantage of the bigger akku will be reduced to the larger screen.
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Agreed... and to be honest, the HD looks like a brick to me... personal opinion before I start another debate!
The Diamond is sleek and stylish...the HD looks like an iphone almost in its dimensional view and to be honest, looks bigger / thicker
In my opinion, the diamond is the perfect size/weight and thickness a phone should have. Bear in mind, I work in phone repairs so I see hundreds of models every week, some in prototype versions too and so far, the diamond is one of the most advanced yet non-intrusive in my pocket phone.
As I say, personal opinion.

You cant help to want the HD because it is an awesome device! I think we all agree on that. Specs are just perfect. If I ever had a chance I would get one (but keeping my Diamond)
But....
Diamonds have been noted by the sleeknessss and nice looks.
Yet there is no sacrifice in features. Diamond users are pretty well rounded easily above most other phones features plus the perfect size.
Greetings to all.

I played a little with a touch HD.... let be clear : the design, screen are great !!!!! I don't know about the battery life.. bugs of the TF3D and others.... but the look and feel are great !!! I Love this phone !
Ciao
Fred

frederikk said:
I played a little with a touch HD.... let be clear : the design, screen are great !!!!! I don't know about the battery life.. bugs of the TF3D and others.... but the look and feel are great !!! I Love this phone !
Ciao
Fred
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I have to agree to the great looks and specs of the device.
I have Diamond and looking at Touch HD I noticed 2 things:
1. It is big, big, bigger than SE P1i I have (I got Diamond as I wanted something smaller than P1 after a year of having it)
2. The hardware buttons are so near the bottom that it will be hard to use them at all. 20hand operation is inevitable, which makes it much more difficult to use in the street.

who will be upgrading to Diamond2?

Diamond2 is coming out around 10th april so wondering who will be upgrading or buying it?
is it worth getting the 2nd gen diamond?
i am stuck in a 18mth contract, so can't upgrade now untill apr 2010

harrysaab said:
Diamond2 is coming out around 10th april so wondering who will be upgrading or buying it?
is it worth getting the 2nd gen diamond?
i am stuck in a 18mth contract, so can't upgrade now untill apr 2010
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What I will be eventually doing is switching over regardless of contracts. I will going to Florida in the summer and picking one up there. When I return, I will just simply selling my old Diamond. This will all happen by August of this year. I never wait for contracts to expire. That would make me go crazy having a phone for 2 or 3 years straight. This is my 4th phone in the last 6 months....lol
Phones I had in the last 6mths:
1) HP 6955
2) Cruise
3) Trinity
4) Diamond

i think i will be getting the touch pro 2 instead of the diamond 2

Touch Pro 2 here too... played with the Diamond 2 at MWC, I don't like it's look and feel.

Touch Pro 2 is the poison I choose this time.
Will keep my Beloved Diamond 1 for when I need Sleeeknesssss.
Greetz to all.

lucky you... wish i had the chance to visit the mwc

i dont like the look of the diamond 2 it feel cheap
and the pro 2 is very biig its even bigger than TyTN II its better if they name it TyTN III
i will wait for a new phone from htc (diamond 3)

Don't like the Diamond 2
Diamond 2 doesn't look as nice as my original diamond. Touch Pro 2 looks better than the diamond 2, but I'm not liking it either. I might just totally skip on the latest HTC phones and try out the Palm Pre 'till HTC comes up with something else.

Didn't HTC hire a designer or something for their new devices??
I think the oncoming HTC devices are ugly... I really liked the touch phones, they were the first phones that just looked good (except the cruise) and especially the diamand/pro
I wish i never got that touch dual i have now im stuck with it until december;(
But i guess it'll be the iphone for then, I already have a decent winmo phone

iamjonso said:
Diamond 2 doesn't look as nice as my original diamond. Touch Pro 2 looks better than the diamond 2, but I'm not liking it either. I might just totally skip on the latest HTC phones and try out the Palm Pre 'till HTC comes up with something else.
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Yeah me too, tho with luck all the early probs with the pre will have been ironed out by the time my 18mnth contract runs out in january 2010.....

Chainfire said:
Touch Pro 2 here too... played with the Diamond 2 at MWC, I don't like it's look and feel.
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Chainfire, can you elaborate a little on what you didn't like about the Diamond 2's look and feel? Is it bricky, cheap, squarish? I have a D1 and am considering the 'upgrade'. Thanks.

well, as i compared the dimensions of the new diamond2 to the old it seems it got a bit larger. it now has the size of the iphone, which in my opinion is too large.
i really like the size of the diamond1, it is a phone-size all-in wonder, and not a tablet-pc with a phone function.
the only real advantage i see is the bigger screen for better working but this is also the reason for the bigger dimensions...
the rest of the new features?
better camera? well get a digicam if you want good pictures, 5mp but no flashlight, forget good pics at evening or at indoor places with bad light...
the other updates: memory,sd slot and better battery, well nice but its no world-wonder...
and the diamond pro 2? brick with phone function? come on...
i will stay with my diamond1 and keep waiting.
so my opionion is: size DOES matter
everyone have a nice day!

i like the no2 think i mgit go there if three get there act together and get a stylish phone made by HTC rather than the current junk
but like most ive got 12 months left on the contract so lets hope the 3 is out and ready and stable by then

WMguy said:
Chainfire, can you elaborate a little on what you didn't like about the Diamond 2's look and feel? Is it bricky, cheap, squarish? I have a D1 and am considering the 'upgrade'. Thanks.
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Well, please start by opening this link in a new window:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1750&view=1
You can immediately see it is not as small or as cute as the original Diamond ( <3 !! )
It feels a bit 'stretched' in your hand when you are playing with it, don't have a better word to say it.
But the absolute worst part is the 'bottom of the front' as you can see in the picture. They gray/silvery part looks incredibly cheap/ugly IRL, and its just a waste of space with no function (they should have just made the thing a centimeter shorter).
Furthermore, between the small buttons above the silvery part and the touchscreen soft-buttons is a so called zoom-slider. It's hard to see in the picture on that page, but again this is a waste of space - and it looks really awkward too. While I imagine it could be handy while web-browsing (if it actually works, it didn't do anything on the demo models I played with), at least for me that isn't that important and I would have much preferred an on-screen zoom slider in the browser instead. Again, they could have made the thing another centimeter shorter.
It's just one hell of a butt-ugly phone (well ok it isn't as ugly as say, the G1, but it's nowhere near as sleek as the original Diamond and Touch Pro) and wastes space all over the place. It doesn't feel 'right' in your hand either.
Hope that explains it a bit.
Note that I just noticed the Rhodium has this frecking zoom slider as well... bah!

the only characteristic worth mentioning in case you make the transition is the card slot... But really! Features like the enlarged screen (800x480), a wee better camera and a flashy new metallic design won't make me change my diamond... I mean, they aren't features which make a big diff... let alone define a TRUE SEQUEL.
+ they ditched the D-pad and replaced it with a silly horizontal zoom panel... Why!?!?! it pretty much looks like a DOWNGRADE to me.
No thx!

Not me, that's for sure!
I like my Diamond, despite its poor speed and short battery life... but I'm hoping that something else good comes out in the 9 months or so that are left on my 18 month contract!
My preference would be another WinMo phone but faster, better battery, TV out and possibly even proper headphone jack. Doesn't have to be HTC because HTC software is so poor.

val3nteen said:
the only characteristic worth mentioning in case you make the transition is the card slot... But really! Features like the enlarged screen (800x480), a wee better camera and a flashy new metallic design won't make me change my diamond... I mean, they aren't features which make a big diff... let alone define a TRUE SEQUEL.
+ they ditched the D-pad and replaced it with a silly horizontal zoom panel... Why!?!?! it pretty much looks like a DOWNGRADE to me.
No thx!
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I only played with the Diamond2 a little bit today and yesterday but the one thing I noticed is that performance did seem to be noticeably improved. As I whipped around TF3D it seemed quite a bit snappier than my Diamond. Some of the hardware changes do make you wonder but the TF3D software seems significantly better (that being said - I did get WM to freeze rather easily when playing with the onscreen keyboard - oops!) I didn't think the phone was butt ugly but, in all fairness, I was drooling a little.
Just like most people, the HTC people said that the Pro2 seems to be the one exciting people more but while the features are cool it is kind of a brick IMHO. Of course, I also looked at the P6500 and that made the Pro2 look not *quite* so big!

certainly not me, the device as it is is pretty close to perfect in terms of size/weight.
with the diamond2 getting bigger and heavier, it's a big turnoff to me.
i had a choice of buying a north american diamond but did not as it's thicker and heavier.

Chainfire said:
Well, please start by opening this link in a new window:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1750&view=1
You can immediately see it is not as small or as cute as the original Diamond ( <3 !! )
It feels a bit 'stretched' in your hand when you are playing with it, don't have a better word to say it.
But the absolute worst part is the 'bottom of the front' as you can see in the picture. They gray/silvery part looks incredibly cheap/ugly IRL, and its just a waste of space with no function (they should have just made the thing a centimeter shorter).
Furthermore, between the small buttons above the silvery part and the touchscreen soft-buttons is a so called zoom-slider. It's hard to see in the picture on that page, but again this is a waste of space - and it looks really awkward too. While I imagine it could be handy while web-browsing (if it actually works, it didn't do anything on the demo models I played with), at least for me that isn't that important and I would have much preferred an on-screen zoom slider in the browser instead. Again, they could have made the thing another centimeter shorter.
It's just one hell of a butt-ugly phone (well ok it isn't as ugly as say, the G1, but it's nowhere near as sleek as the original Diamond and Touch Pro) and wastes space all over the place. It doesn't feel 'right' in your hand either.
Hope that explains it a bit.
Note that I just noticed the Rhodium has this frecking zoom slider as well... bah!
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Thanks for the insight. I'm really on the fence about 'upgrading'. I'm intrigued by the widescreen for maps/pictures/videos and the 5MP camera has also sparked my attention. The cam on the current Diamond is very good IMO and so I'm just figuring it will get even better on the D2. I use my phone a lot for pictures. I have the NAM version of the D1 so the D2 will actually be the same weight and a little thinner. But I do know what you mean about it being 'stretched'. I had an Imate 8502 and it was a narrow phone that was long. It felt very stretched in hand so that's going to be a factor for me. Loosing the dpad (even if the D1's is crappy) is another big downer.
I've actually been toying with buying a Samsung Omnia instead. $200 cheaper, same camera specs but with a flash, widescreen (although not VGA) and a mouse pointer to 'replace' the dpad. Who knows...

My provider gave me a Samsung Omnia for free and after using a widescreen device (yes, I know, WQVGA, not WVGA), the screen on the Diamond seems too small to use. I will personally be going with the Touch Pro2, not the Diamond2. This is mainly because of the bigger screen size as well as the keyboard, not to mention the decent speaker on it and flashlight.

htc lancaster running the new android?

i knwo this DEFINITELY is not the place for other phone's questions and such but considerign we dont have a lancaster section because its not out yet, and this is really the only android developent forum i figured id put it here, mods please move if there is a more appropriate thread(i DID look lol)
the lancaster is goign to be the first at&t android based phone and was wondering if there is any info out there in the xda community yet. if you havent heard of it, wich im sure most of us have, its around, google it. it look failry promising.

http://www.engadgetmobile.com/2009/05/24/htc-lancaster-is-a-qwerty-slider-with-android-for-atandt/
some early release info. supposedly.

The screen resolution kills it for me.. Its so beautiful from outside with full keyboard and really really sad 2.8" QVGA 240*320..
There is no Android phone yet with full keyboard which beats G1.

keyboards with no physical numeric keys is utter fail

Really, the perfect smartphone would be:
An HTC Dream with 288 MB RAM instead of 192 MB and a better battery and maybe not a plastic case.

the lancaster looks dead sexy compared to the g1.. But as stated above the qvga screen 7 the 4 row keyboard both = fail..

maxisma said:
Really, the perfect smartphone would be:
An HTC Dream with 288 MB RAM instead of 192 MB and a better battery and maybe not a plastic case.
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I agree.

the biggest thing that turns me off is its gonna be completely ravaged wit at&t bullcrap. dont get me wrong, getting it off of there will be simple but at&t is constantly doing that. yeah the screen sucks, the 4 row is probably killing me more than the screen at the moment, im just kind of excited for a major based phone company to get android. yea i know rogers, and orange etc, have them. but besides tmobile no large consumer company has android unless your port it to another htc phone(fuze/kaiser=both crap in my opinion).

maxisma said:
Really, the perfect smartphone would be:
An HTC Dream with 288 MB RAM instead of 192 MB and a better battery and maybe not a plastic case.
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And maybe a 5mp Camera..

maxisma said:
Really, the perfect smartphone would be:
An HTC Dream with 288 MB RAM instead of 192 MB and a better battery and maybe not a plastic case.
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I agree.
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Well not really. A phone with
1. Qualcomm's Snapdragon or Samsung's "Hummingbird" with 512 RAM inside
2. Hero like Teflon coating OR Carbon fiber on outside (No Chrome)
3. Full 5 row qwerty
Wow.. I am day dreaming sitting on my office chair.... with dreamy sound in the background...

5mp camera would almost automatically nessecitate it being a carl ziess(sp?) phone.
on the other hand, i think snapdragon* is going to be the set standard for any REAL smartphone after all the big boys have a run with it.
i say snapdragon because i havent really done much looking into the hummingbird =]

ok the perfect phone would be running the nvidia tegra apx with no less then about a 3.5" wvga screen.. No physical keyboard necessary & would be no more then about 3.8 inches diagnol (basically all screen) and about 1/4" thick.. Of course it needs at least 2 days worth of juice & that would pretty much set us up for whatever we needed going forward for at least a few years

AHHH! I'm on AT&T and absolutely HATE the Lancaster. First off, 3.0MP with FIXED FOCUS. Not to mention a 4 row keyboard instead of my G1's 5 row. And the screen res sucks! I really want an AT&T 3G Android but it looks like I'll have to wait for the HERO to come here

Geniusdog254 said:
AHHH! I'm on AT&T and absolutely HATE the Lancaster. First off, 3.0MP with FIXED FOCUS. Not to mention a 4 row keyboard instead of my G1's 5 row. And the screen res sucks! I really want an AT&T 3G Android but it looks like I'll have to wait for the HERO to come here
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Same for me, when Hero hits ATT I'm gonna be all over it! It'll be a nice addition to my G1...and 3G!

I worked for AT&T as long as it isn't a metal case. metal cases blow for reception.

I'm on AT&T and using my edge only G1.
Lancaster SUCKS! for above stated reasons, FIXED FOCUS camera makes scan code reading useless! Smaller keyboard! AND, worst of all - the SCREEN!
Do the mindless pukes at ATT even THINK before releasing the phone!?!?! Due they just WANT the device to fail? Come ON! I will be waiting to get my hands on some other device that has the 3G freqs I need for ATT - then buy that phone!

Geniusdog254 said:
AHHH! I'm on AT&T and absolutely HATE the Lancaster. First off, 3.0MP with FIXED FOCUS. Not to mention a 4 row keyboard instead of my G1's 5 row. And the screen res sucks! I really want an AT&T 3G Android but it looks like I'll have to wait for the HERO to come here
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You don't have to wait!
I got the Roger's version of the HTC Dream (G1) and it has USA ATT 3G Frequencies 850/1900!!!
ebay.ca is your friend

yea the rogfers phone will work on at&t but from what i hear, all you can do is get root on it. no other roms work correctly, and alot of things are different.
its like mini-root lol.

All you really need is root. The rogers ROM is one of the best already- has htc dialer, full exchange, etc.
Yeah you can't run hero on it, but that is the price of sticking with AT&T.... I would be all over it if I were you.

Now this is a phone.
http://www.boygeniusreport.com/2009...achael-to-launch-as-xperia-x3-specs-revealed/