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HTC Touch "HD" ?

Have any of you seen this lately?
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/272214/introducing-the-htc-touch-hd/

Looks nice!! more iPhone sized by the look of it!!

How long will the battery last with that screen?!

kien said:
How long will the battery last with that screen?!
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Yeah!! LOL!!

Definately sounds like more battery issues lol, but nice specs! Though i haven't heard anything else about this new device anywhere else? Is it definately coming out?

Addicteddddd said:
Definately sounds like more battery issues lol, but nice specs! Though i haven't heard anything else about this new device anywhere else? Is it definately coming out?
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mobiman2008 has it in his hands so I'm guessing it will.
I feel a little cheated as said in the MoDaCo forum...my Touch Pro already looks long in the tooth compared to this. I'm liking the idea of a 3.5mm jack, higher screen res and by the looks of it, internal storage AND SD slot.

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mobiman2008 has it in his hands so I'm guessing it will.
I feel a little cheated as said in the MoDaCo forum...my Touch Pro already looks long in the tooth compared to this. I'm liking the idea of a 3.5mm jack, higher screen res and by the looks of it, internal storage AND SD slot.
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oh, that's fantastic! damn i wish i'd of waited then and got this

I was so looking forward to getting the Fuze, but all that excitement just went out of the window. I definitely plan on picking this up instead. Hopefully it will be a world phone and be 3g US compatible with the euro version right out of the box!

looks nice
but happy with my diamond

looks too big.

Yeah, it's clearly to compete directly with the iphone but I think the iphone is too big. Also there's no keyboard, and from using the iphone, i really don't like that.

"115mm x 62.8mm x 12mm"
Lol, does it come with a backpack also? I thought it was a phone, not a notebook.

Scribe said:
Yeah, it's clearly to compete directly with the iphone but I think the iphone is too big. Also there's no keyboard, and from using the iphone, i really don't like that.
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One could also say that this would compete with the Blackberry Thunder as this one looks very similar to the Thunder in terms of the button layout and the screen.

All it would need is multitouch capabilities and then I would ReallyReallyReallyReallyReallyReally want one!

While I most probably won't buy it, it's just annoying that HTC have released like 3-4 models in the past couple of months. I will definitely stick with my diamond (mainly because of the size factor) but this thing definitely looks great but a bit too big for my taste.

Damn, you made me regret for buying my normal sized diamond . The screen is just to small to navigate without using the stylus..

HTC are cruel to me ive been waiting for the Touch pro... then they pull this out there hat... :/ I may have to wait a little longer. Even though theres no qwerty in it.

Looks crap, no dpad??? WM is too crap to not have a dpad.

yeah i saw that already.. mm i prefer my diamond. Is looks cooler

Smaniac said:
"115mm x 62.8mm x 12mm"
Lol, does it come with a backpack also? I thought it was a phone, not a notebook.
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Its not that big, its definitely smaller than a Touch Pro. For comparisons sake, here is the volume in mm^3 of HTCs more recent devices in size order:
diamond ......................51 x 102 x 11.5 millimetres..........59823
CDMA Diamond..............51x101x14mm..........................72114
HTC Touch HD.............62.8 x 115 x 12 millimetres..........86664
HTC Touch Pro..............51 x 102 x 18.05 millimetres........93896.1
HTC Touch Cruise..........58x110x15.5mm........................98890
TyTn II........................59 x 112 x 19 millimetres............125552
I think the Touch Cruise/Touch Pro dimensions are right on the border, and the TyTn II is just overly portly (i.e. a brick). You add to that the fact that the Touch Pro has a 4" screen and you've really got something serious. I hope that it has GPS, b/c that would make great use for that screen. The only thing I lament is the lack of a scroll wheel or jog dial on it.

who will be upgrading to Diamond2?

Diamond2 is coming out around 10th april so wondering who will be upgrading or buying it?
is it worth getting the 2nd gen diamond?
i am stuck in a 18mth contract, so can't upgrade now untill apr 2010

harrysaab said:
Diamond2 is coming out around 10th april so wondering who will be upgrading or buying it?
is it worth getting the 2nd gen diamond?
i am stuck in a 18mth contract, so can't upgrade now untill apr 2010
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What I will be eventually doing is switching over regardless of contracts. I will going to Florida in the summer and picking one up there. When I return, I will just simply selling my old Diamond. This will all happen by August of this year. I never wait for contracts to expire. That would make me go crazy having a phone for 2 or 3 years straight. This is my 4th phone in the last 6 months....lol
Phones I had in the last 6mths:
1) HP 6955
2) Cruise
3) Trinity
4) Diamond

i think i will be getting the touch pro 2 instead of the diamond 2

Touch Pro 2 here too... played with the Diamond 2 at MWC, I don't like it's look and feel.

Touch Pro 2 is the poison I choose this time.
Will keep my Beloved Diamond 1 for when I need Sleeeknesssss.
Greetz to all.

lucky you... wish i had the chance to visit the mwc

i dont like the look of the diamond 2 it feel cheap
and the pro 2 is very biig its even bigger than TyTN II its better if they name it TyTN III
i will wait for a new phone from htc (diamond 3)

Don't like the Diamond 2
Diamond 2 doesn't look as nice as my original diamond. Touch Pro 2 looks better than the diamond 2, but I'm not liking it either. I might just totally skip on the latest HTC phones and try out the Palm Pre 'till HTC comes up with something else.

Didn't HTC hire a designer or something for their new devices??
I think the oncoming HTC devices are ugly... I really liked the touch phones, they were the first phones that just looked good (except the cruise) and especially the diamand/pro
I wish i never got that touch dual i have now im stuck with it until december;(
But i guess it'll be the iphone for then, I already have a decent winmo phone

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Diamond 2 doesn't look as nice as my original diamond. Touch Pro 2 looks better than the diamond 2, but I'm not liking it either. I might just totally skip on the latest HTC phones and try out the Palm Pre 'till HTC comes up with something else.
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Yeah me too, tho with luck all the early probs with the pre will have been ironed out by the time my 18mnth contract runs out in january 2010.....

Chainfire said:
Touch Pro 2 here too... played with the Diamond 2 at MWC, I don't like it's look and feel.
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Chainfire, can you elaborate a little on what you didn't like about the Diamond 2's look and feel? Is it bricky, cheap, squarish? I have a D1 and am considering the 'upgrade'. Thanks.

well, as i compared the dimensions of the new diamond2 to the old it seems it got a bit larger. it now has the size of the iphone, which in my opinion is too large.
i really like the size of the diamond1, it is a phone-size all-in wonder, and not a tablet-pc with a phone function.
the only real advantage i see is the bigger screen for better working but this is also the reason for the bigger dimensions...
the rest of the new features?
better camera? well get a digicam if you want good pictures, 5mp but no flashlight, forget good pics at evening or at indoor places with bad light...
the other updates: memory,sd slot and better battery, well nice but its no world-wonder...
and the diamond pro 2? brick with phone function? come on...
i will stay with my diamond1 and keep waiting.
so my opionion is: size DOES matter
everyone have a nice day!

i like the no2 think i mgit go there if three get there act together and get a stylish phone made by HTC rather than the current junk
but like most ive got 12 months left on the contract so lets hope the 3 is out and ready and stable by then

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Chainfire, can you elaborate a little on what you didn't like about the Diamond 2's look and feel? Is it bricky, cheap, squarish? I have a D1 and am considering the 'upgrade'. Thanks.
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Well, please start by opening this link in a new window:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1750&view=1
You can immediately see it is not as small or as cute as the original Diamond ( <3 !! )
It feels a bit 'stretched' in your hand when you are playing with it, don't have a better word to say it.
But the absolute worst part is the 'bottom of the front' as you can see in the picture. They gray/silvery part looks incredibly cheap/ugly IRL, and its just a waste of space with no function (they should have just made the thing a centimeter shorter).
Furthermore, between the small buttons above the silvery part and the touchscreen soft-buttons is a so called zoom-slider. It's hard to see in the picture on that page, but again this is a waste of space - and it looks really awkward too. While I imagine it could be handy while web-browsing (if it actually works, it didn't do anything on the demo models I played with), at least for me that isn't that important and I would have much preferred an on-screen zoom slider in the browser instead. Again, they could have made the thing another centimeter shorter.
It's just one hell of a butt-ugly phone (well ok it isn't as ugly as say, the G1, but it's nowhere near as sleek as the original Diamond and Touch Pro) and wastes space all over the place. It doesn't feel 'right' in your hand either.
Hope that explains it a bit.
Note that I just noticed the Rhodium has this frecking zoom slider as well... bah!

the only characteristic worth mentioning in case you make the transition is the card slot... But really! Features like the enlarged screen (800x480), a wee better camera and a flashy new metallic design won't make me change my diamond... I mean, they aren't features which make a big diff... let alone define a TRUE SEQUEL.
+ they ditched the D-pad and replaced it with a silly horizontal zoom panel... Why!?!?! it pretty much looks like a DOWNGRADE to me.
No thx!

Not me, that's for sure!
I like my Diamond, despite its poor speed and short battery life... but I'm hoping that something else good comes out in the 9 months or so that are left on my 18 month contract!
My preference would be another WinMo phone but faster, better battery, TV out and possibly even proper headphone jack. Doesn't have to be HTC because HTC software is so poor.

val3nteen said:
the only characteristic worth mentioning in case you make the transition is the card slot... But really! Features like the enlarged screen (800x480), a wee better camera and a flashy new metallic design won't make me change my diamond... I mean, they aren't features which make a big diff... let alone define a TRUE SEQUEL.
+ they ditched the D-pad and replaced it with a silly horizontal zoom panel... Why!?!?! it pretty much looks like a DOWNGRADE to me.
No thx!
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I only played with the Diamond2 a little bit today and yesterday but the one thing I noticed is that performance did seem to be noticeably improved. As I whipped around TF3D it seemed quite a bit snappier than my Diamond. Some of the hardware changes do make you wonder but the TF3D software seems significantly better (that being said - I did get WM to freeze rather easily when playing with the onscreen keyboard - oops!) I didn't think the phone was butt ugly but, in all fairness, I was drooling a little.
Just like most people, the HTC people said that the Pro2 seems to be the one exciting people more but while the features are cool it is kind of a brick IMHO. Of course, I also looked at the P6500 and that made the Pro2 look not *quite* so big!

certainly not me, the device as it is is pretty close to perfect in terms of size/weight.
with the diamond2 getting bigger and heavier, it's a big turnoff to me.
i had a choice of buying a north american diamond but did not as it's thicker and heavier.

Chainfire said:
Well, please start by opening this link in a new window:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=specs&id=1750&view=1
You can immediately see it is not as small or as cute as the original Diamond ( <3 !! )
It feels a bit 'stretched' in your hand when you are playing with it, don't have a better word to say it.
But the absolute worst part is the 'bottom of the front' as you can see in the picture. They gray/silvery part looks incredibly cheap/ugly IRL, and its just a waste of space with no function (they should have just made the thing a centimeter shorter).
Furthermore, between the small buttons above the silvery part and the touchscreen soft-buttons is a so called zoom-slider. It's hard to see in the picture on that page, but again this is a waste of space - and it looks really awkward too. While I imagine it could be handy while web-browsing (if it actually works, it didn't do anything on the demo models I played with), at least for me that isn't that important and I would have much preferred an on-screen zoom slider in the browser instead. Again, they could have made the thing another centimeter shorter.
It's just one hell of a butt-ugly phone (well ok it isn't as ugly as say, the G1, but it's nowhere near as sleek as the original Diamond and Touch Pro) and wastes space all over the place. It doesn't feel 'right' in your hand either.
Hope that explains it a bit.
Note that I just noticed the Rhodium has this frecking zoom slider as well... bah!
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Thanks for the insight. I'm really on the fence about 'upgrading'. I'm intrigued by the widescreen for maps/pictures/videos and the 5MP camera has also sparked my attention. The cam on the current Diamond is very good IMO and so I'm just figuring it will get even better on the D2. I use my phone a lot for pictures. I have the NAM version of the D1 so the D2 will actually be the same weight and a little thinner. But I do know what you mean about it being 'stretched'. I had an Imate 8502 and it was a narrow phone that was long. It felt very stretched in hand so that's going to be a factor for me. Loosing the dpad (even if the D1's is crappy) is another big downer.
I've actually been toying with buying a Samsung Omnia instead. $200 cheaper, same camera specs but with a flash, widescreen (although not VGA) and a mouse pointer to 'replace' the dpad. Who knows...

My provider gave me a Samsung Omnia for free and after using a widescreen device (yes, I know, WQVGA, not WVGA), the screen on the Diamond seems too small to use. I will personally be going with the Touch Pro2, not the Diamond2. This is mainly because of the bigger screen size as well as the keyboard, not to mention the decent speaker on it and flashlight.

Tilt still considered a worthy phone?

I've had a tilt for a couple of years now and it still works pretty good but it seems all the interest is being placed on newer phones. I don't want a new phone cause ATT doesn't have anything out now that I want to get a contract for. Would a good deal on a fuze be a worthy upgrade or should I just keep the tilt till a new phone comes along that moves me?

The Fuse is a downgrade from the Tilt IMHO. Smaller keyboard, smaller screen, not as healthy a developer community I think. If you are going to upgrade, go with the Tilt 2...I mean comeon, its just damn sexy. But, no I do not think the fuze is a very worth successor.

The problem with the Tilt is not the hardware, but the OS. With the introduction of Windows Phone 7, a lot of developers have abandoned Windows Mobile.
The good news is that the Tilt has one of the most sucessful Android ports. You can replace Windows Mobile with a Android Donut build and have a fully functional Android phone. It's not perfect, it is slow and has poor battery life. Though, considering that in the past 6 months the Tilt has a 100% working Android OS, it won't be long before the OS is fast and stable. Not to mention that hopefully we'll also see a FroYo build. Eclair doesn't have working BT or Camera, but I'm sure with time that'll work too.
Another thing to consider is that most new phones aren't much of an upgrade, unless it has a snapdragon in it. Otherwise, most have the same CPU with a 128 Mhz speed boost, and 64-128MB more ram. They do have better LCD screens and have accelerometers. Plus the Tilt does have a weak camera compared to the newer 5.0 Megapixel LED flash cameras.
Personally, I'd hold out until Snapdragon based Android phones with hardware keyboards make a common appearance. Otherwise, save your money, wait for Android to get better on Tilt.
BTW, AT&T has a lot of refurbished Tilt 2 phones that they're practically giving away for free. Getting one of those isn't bad, even though their Android development isn't anywhere near as far as the Tilts.

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The Fuse is a downgrade from the Tilt IMHO. Smaller keyboard, smaller screen, not as healthy a developer community I think. If you are going to upgrade, go with the Tilt 2...I mean comeon, its just damn sexy. But, no I do not think the fuze is a very worth successor.
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Smaller screen not really and vga, keyboard isn't smaller as has numeral 5 line, the community is larger than Kaiser regards turnover, the device has TF3D inc Sense 2.5, the one thing Kaiser does have better than TP build quality, noticed as soon as got TP i had to worry more.
Anyway my advice would be don't go midway buy the best phone you can, in my mind thst would be TP2 or HD2 "if stuck with win-mo" or Nexus1.
Wouldn't hang about for a Win7 device but then i don't fall for hype when so much going to be locked down regards dev.

Fuze gets no love
I'm really surprised that you all don't think better of the Fuze. Compared to the Tilt I know it has these added features....
Faster CPU
Higher resolution
More Ram/Rom
TV Out
FM radio
Accelerometer
Also the cooked Fuze roms are using Sense 2.1 while many of the Kaiser rom threads are being labeled as final. I wrote the to get a status check of the Tilt's activity. Seems there are still die hards in here.
I'm not so sold yet on the Android platform. A couple of articles I remember reading said that its apps marketplace is full of "junk" apps. Don't wanna jump on the fad OS just to have it go out faster then WM is. Yeah WM is at the bottom of the list right now but its what I'm most familiar with.
If AT&T would sell me a refurbish Tilt 2 at a good price without renewing my contract I'd be on it. Who knows when the next long term king of the smartphones will come out and who's gonna have it. I don't wanna be tied down to AT&T and not be able to get out of it.

I literally was going to switch to AT&T, but their recent contract changes for smart phones has made me reconsider. I don't wanna pay $300 just to switch to another provider.
Android is far from a fad. Microsoft and Apple wanna make a closed OS to mimic the revenue of game consoles. For every app that's sold, they make money. Android doesn't force you to get your applications from the market. Not to forget that it's based on linux, which means you will always have a way to improve it. That's why G1 owners are able to get OS upgrades.
The Fuze is an upgrade, but nothing massive. I'm surprised how many smart phones have the Qualcomm MSM7201A ARM 11 at 528 MHz. It's literally on every device, but it's only 128 Mhz faster then the Tilt, and many tilt owners have been able to overclock to 500 Mhz on Android, without any issues.
Like I said, Snapdragon + Hardware keyboard. Don't settle for anything less.

The Raphael does get love
Just that if i had a contract then a TP2 would be easily in grasp so wouldn't buy a secondhand tp, main reason real estate as WVGA get fed up of tiny screen even in VGA since use phone alot....

Iphone?

i would suggest the rhodium or the hd2
even maybe the touch hd

ChumleyEX said:
Iphone?
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Are you crazy? That thing has only one flipping button.
Haven't we learned anything from the 2 button mouse issues with Apple computers in the past?

Dukenukemx said:
Are you crazy? That thing has only one flipping button.
Haven't we learned anything from the 2 button mouse issues with Apple computers in the past?
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i know and they can't multi-task

Dukenukemx said:
Are you crazy? That thing has only one flipping button.
Haven't we learned anything from the 2 button mouse issues with Apple computers in the past?
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It has 2 buttons, and many many virtual buttons.
i know and they can't multi-task
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If you jailbreak you can and if you wait for 4.0 you will be able to natively.

'iPhone 4' - What do you lot think?

So far, not a 100% fail like the last one imo
Some good features. But Im still pissed at the way Jobs is making out like he invented it all. E.g. 720P video...

Boring... its the same thing. They need one with a bigger screen.

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Boring... its the same thing. They need one with a bigger screen.
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+1.
all phones seem small compared to my HD2

erm.. hardware is good
finally they have added multi-tasking phew
but i hate the interface because if you have loads of apps you have to scroll through loads of pages just to get to an app they haven't done anything about that.
but over all a better iphone to the last
still could be improved alot!

New screen is nice, but its not AMOLED and the resolution is rather pointless when its still a puny 3.5 inches, i call fail on that. The resolution is a way to get around a scaling problem, not a 'feature' in itself. 720P is also nice, but hardly unique, 5MP cam is adequate. OS 4 is meh and has been since it was announced, so im not tempted away, its still a restricted, limited platform controlled by prudish control freaks. The hardware just doesnt creak quite so much (for the time being). A few months later we will see 720P screens and dual core CPUs on devices that cost less all with a better, more open OS.

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New screen is nice, but its not AMOLED and the resolution is rather pointless when its still a puny 3.5 inches, i call fail on that. The resolution is a way to get around a scaling problem, not a 'feature' in itself. 720P is also nice, but hardly unique, 5MP cam is adequate. OS 4 is meh and has been since it was announced, so im not tempted away, its still a restricted, limited platform controlled by prudish control freaks. The hardware just doesnt creak quite so much (for the time being). A few months later we will see 720P screens and dual core CPUs on devices that cost less all with a better, more open OS.
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Agreed.
Its going to take allot to tempt me away from my HD2 (allot more from apple ) I'd think about the EVO 4g if it was in the UK.
But apple has never done it for me...
Overall better job though

Another useless i...e thread
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Boring... its the same thing. They need one with a bigger screen.
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+1.
all phones seem small compared to my HD2
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Here we go again
Agree with all above comments and forthcoming on same line

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Above all its just not good enough, it wont be a hardware leader for very long. Yes its faster than any current HTC and the screen is higher res, but 3.5 inches is not good enough its that simple. Id take 800x480 at 4.3 (or 5) over 960x640 at 3.5 inches ANY day. You have to get pretty close to see the pixels on any current WVGA screen, even the 5 inch Dell Streak.

iphone 4...
yawn...
wake me up when it innovates...

who effing cares....
EVO Ftw!!!!!!!!!!

rovex said:
Above all its just not good enough, it wont be a hardware leader for very long. Yes its faster than any current HTC and the screen is higher res, but 3.5 inches is not good enough its that simple. Id take 800x480 at 4.3 (or 5) over 960x640 at 3.5 inches ANY day. You have to get pretty close to see the pixels on any current WVGA screen, even the 5 inch Dell Streak.
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A 5" screen does not a cell phone make, you might as well just call it a tablet pc with phone capabilities. If it can't fit in my pocket then it is useless to me, external cell phone holders are for narcissistic douchbags.

the screen res is one of its high points along with front facing camera but fails with teh small screen and the wifi only videochat.

Nanan00 said:
A 5" screen does not a cell phone make, you might as well just call it a tablet pc with phone capabilities. If it can't fit in my pocket then it is useless to me, external cell phone holders are for narcissistic douchbags.
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The Dell streak does fit in a pocket. I have no problems with it at all. Its just like a thinner HD2 really.

domineus said:
iphone 4...
yawn...
wake me up when it innovates...
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I agree completely. It's like, it's not anything special at all anymore, now that I know Jobs is a complete tool and lies to the public ("I don't like Flash because it's not open, but here, check out HTML5 in my closed browser").
Same size and weight basically. They say it's thinner, but why are people clamming for thinner phones? That's going to crack!!!!!
720p video? I doubt the quality of this stands up to true 720p video and I dare someone to prove me wrong. I have 720p video on my Olympus EPL1 and I'm sure it blows that mini camera's quality out of the water.
Front-facing camera? Not only do none of the current US networks support this, but do you really think this will take off? Yeah webcams sure did and are everywhere now. As it is now, people using cell phones in my general vicinity are already complete tools, now video calling near me will make them into 150% douchebags.
YAWN is right

My idea of a perfect phone would be the iPhone 4's hardware with Android as software... Don't hate me for saying this, but Apple products truly look high-end.

androidlicious said:
My idea of a perfect phone would be the iPhone 4's hardware with Android as software... Don't hate me for saying this, but Apple products truly look high-end.
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I dont hate you for it, i just think you are completely wrong. I hate Apple 'Style'. For me the HD2 is still the best looking device on the market. Its just wonderful to look at, on or off.

256mb of RAM on board a 1Ghz processor? That's like having a Ferrari with a pinto suspension...lol. That and the small screen; Psuedo Hi-Def on a tiny, non-AMOLED screen? I'm just not feeling Apple, never have, and it would take some real innovation to convert me (i.e. never).
Just my 2 cents...
~Jasecloud4

Ive had a phone with >300DPI before, the Nokia N90. It was really nice and looked odd because of the super pixels density, but ultimately a 2.1 inch screen only goes so far. Its the same here. 3.5 is just too small to make the resolution worth it.

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256mb of ram on board a 1ghz processor? That's like having a ferrari with a pinto suspension...lol
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What Will You Get After the Nexus?

So, I'm bored with my Nexus. My battery life blows, I refuse to buy another battery for a phone that I'll be getting rid of soon. Also, I can't stand at&t. I'm wanting to get back to Big Red every day. Lucky for me, my contract termination date is soon.
That said, I love the Nexus, I bought it because of it's top-of the line technology. I don't want a Droid 2 it's too thick. The Droid X is too big, plus it's been out since July. Which means that a new one will be out sooner or later. Too bad the N2 is t-mo and maybe at&t, but I really don't want to lock-in to at&t for another 2 years.
Anybody else in this boat? What are you planning on doing? I'm hoping that the next generation android phones come out soon, face cameras and all. Anybody got any good rumors about new "super-phones"?

Nexus One is a beautiful product... I would like to wait for Nexus Two if there is any~ I got my Nexus One on 2nd March.
have been using it for 9 months and I still have 92% usable battery capacity..

I agree it is beautiful. I noticed you're in Australia, for which I'm very jealous. However, I'm not sure what the Australian Android scene is like down there, but it's changing daily here in the US.

Check out the battery cal thread. We just got the battery changes into pershoot's kernel this week. So now you can pull all your battery values from the battery EEPROM chip, and tweak them. We are experimenting with squeezing out more capacity now that we can change voltage, current, etc. Check the battery thread for more info

nothing for awhile, i just upgraded from my G1 to a N1 3 weeks ago and i don't honestly see anything hardware wise ground breaking happening that will make me want to get a new phone anytime soon.
a buddy of mine has the droid X, nice phone but man that screen looks like crap compared to the AMOLED screen the viewing angles not that it matters is very bad on them as well.
I think when they come up with a newer battery tech or phones that can have 2x+ the battery life and still be just as good as an N1 i would consider it but it's not going to happen for at least a year if not longer. in the mean time i don't have problems with battery life on average days and when i know i will be away from home/work for awhile i have a spare charged battery to make sure it stays alive

angasreid said:
So, I'm bored with my Nexus. My battery life blows, I refuse to buy another battery for a phone that I'll be getting rid of soon. Also, I can't stand at&t. I'm wanting to get back to Big Red every day. Lucky for me, my contract termination date is soon.
That said, I love the Nexus, I bought it because of it's top-of the line technology. I don't want a Droid 2 it's too thick. The Droid X is too big, plus it's been out since July. Which means that a new one will be out sooner or later. Too bad the N2 is t-mo and maybe at&t, but I really don't want to lock-in to at&t for another 2 years.
Anybody else in this boat? What are you planning on doing? I'm hoping that the next generation android phones come out soon, face cameras and all. Anybody got any good rumors about new "super-phones"?
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As soon as something that has a high quality build with a good camera equipped, I will jump ship. As of right now, I don't think that any Android phone has a good camera (in my opinion). I think we definitely live in an age where cellphone cameras can replace digital cameras but, unfortunately, there is no Android phone that has impressed me yet in the imaging department.

I agree. My wife wife has an iPhone 3G and I can brag all day about mu N1 being better. But when it gets to the camera, her phone is much better. Android phones have a long way ti catch up.
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marcos.lennis said:
I agree. My wife wife has an iPhone 3G and I can brag all day about mu N1 being better. But when it gets to the camera, her phone is much better. Android phones have a long way ti catch up.
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IPhone 3g vs n1 camera? Lol don't think so
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Droid Terminator... Early next year...

Nexus One has a decent camera, but the video recording quality is atrocious, ie. typical HTC video camera quality. Even the Sony X10 Mini Pro takes better videos (constant 30fps indoors). That's probably the only big knock against my Nexus One.

N1 stays
With currently available options I am unable to justify a switch from N1.
Thats unless someone releases an unlocked phone with a 1.5 dual core processor and 1G RAM with sustainable battery backup.
I'll wait for the next batch of new Android devices from the manufacturers once the WP7(which looks good) dust settles down.

They will pry my N1 from my cold dead hands.
Or whenever there's a device with unlockable bootloader, SIM-free (carrier unlocked), running vanilla Android, and officially a "dev phone" that beats Nexus One's specs.
Here are the features I would really like to have on such a device (in no particular order):
More internal storage. WTF were Google and HTC thinking putting only 512MB in the Nexus One?! With app sizes growing like crazy (e.g. Adobe Flash/Air or any 3D game) you hit the limit at 50-60 apps. Froyo improves things a little, but you're only postponing the inevitable "Device memory low" message. 8GB should be the minimum in today's handsets, preferably closer to 16-32GB.
Hardware keyboard. I'm getting used to Swype, but nothing beats the keyboard. Either slide or candy bar (Droid Pro) form factors will do.
True multi-touch screen. N1's screen is using old technology that registers only 2 points, and not very well at that. Just try crossing the axis while pinch-zooming to see what I mean.
Front-facing camera. I know it's a gimmick, but there are some pretty cool apps in the works that take advantage of it.
Better main camera. I'm not talking "moar megapiksels", I mean higher quality optics.
Larger and better screen. N1's 3.7 inches is a good enough size for a mobile device, but only just. I'd really prefer my next handset to have at least a 4.3" screen. Also, assuming Samsung stops hogging their Super AMOLEDs, I'd love to have that because of its supposed battery savings.
Larger battery. At some point we need to realize that with our changing usage habits, those 1500 mAh batteries just don't last for one day. Faster processors, GPU accelerated OS, bigger screens, and overall increased usage all take a toll. It's not your grandfather's Blackberry that sits in his pocket all day. 2400 mAh should be the standard nowadays, even if it makes the phone a millimeter thicker than the iPhone.
Better GPU. Sorry to say, but N1's Adreno 200 is a piece of crap. Forget Galaxy S, it can't even compare to the original Droid's PowerVR chip! I don't play many 3D intensive games on my Nexus One, but the ones I do are barely able to run. Gimme a Tegra2 or ARM's new Mali processor, and we're talkin'
More efficient CPU. It doesn't even need to be faster than 1GHz. As the G2 proved, clock speeds don't mean anything. Multi-core, better architecture, etc. should all be coming very soon to Android manufacturers.
HDMI-out port. Not all of my TVs at home are networkable, so having a video tank is very desirable to me.
CDMA and GSM (both T-Mobile ant AT&T 3G frequencies) radios. SIM lock is not the only thing restricting me from switching between carriers. I'm willing to pay extra to be free from any one particular network. Of course LTE, WiMAX and other future technologies will make this point moot. For the foreseeable future though, just CDMA and GSM radios will do.
Now I realize that with all these features comes a hefty price tag, but I'm willing to pay it. I don't want a carrier subsidy, I just want a kick-ass handset that will do what I want it to do.

Chahk said:
They will pry my N1 from my cold dead hands.
Or whenever there's a device with unlockable bootloader, SIM-free (carrier unlocked), running vanilla Android, and officially a "dev phone" that beats Nexus One's specs.
Here are the features I would really like to have on such a device (in no particular order):
More internal storage. WTF were Google and HTC thinking putting only 512MB in the Nexus One?! With app sizes growing like crazy (e.g. Adobe Flash/Air or any 3D game) you hit the limit at 50-60 apps. Froyo improves things a little, but you're only postponing the inevitable "Device memory low" message. 8GB should be the minimum in today's handsets, preferably closer to 16-32GB.
Hardware keyboard. I'm getting used to Swype, but nothing beats the keyboard. Either slide or candy bar (Droid Pro) form factors will do.
True multi-touch screen. N1's screen is using old technology that registers only 2 points, and not very well at that. Just try crossing the axis while pinch-zooming to see what I mean.
Front-facing camera. I know it's a gimmick, but there are some pretty cool apps in the works that take advantage of it.
Better main camera. I'm not talking "moar megapiksels", I mean higher quality optics.
Larger and better screen. N1's 3.7 inches is a good enough size for a mobile device, but only just. I'd really prefer my next handset to have at least a 4.3" screen. Also, assuming Samsung stops hogging their Super AMOLEDs, I'd love to have that because of its supposed battery savings.
Larger battery. At some point we need to realize that with our changing usage habits, those 1500 mAh batteries just don't last for one day. Faster processors, GPU accelerated OS, bigger screens, and overall increased usage all take a toll. It's not your grandfather's Blackberry that sits in his pocket all day. 2400 mAh should be the standard nowadays, even if it makes the phone a millimeter thicker than the iPhone.
Better GPU. Sorry to say, but N1's Adreno 200 is a piece of crap. Forget Galaxy S, it can't even compare to the original Droid's PowerVR chip! I don't play many 3D intensive games on my Nexus One, but the ones I do are barely able to run. Gimme a Tegra2 or ARM's new Mali processor, and we're talkin'
More efficient CPU. It doesn't even need to be faster than 1GHz. As the G2 proved, clock speeds don't mean anything. Multi-core, better architecture, etc. should all be coming very soon to Android manufacturers.
HDMI-out port. Not all of my TVs at home are networkable, so having a video tank is very desirable to me.
CDMA and GSM (both T-Mobile ant AT&T 3G frequencies) radios. SIM lock is not the only thing restricting me from switching between carriers. I'm willing to pay extra to be free from any one particular network. Of course LTE, WiMAX and other future technologies will make this point moot. For the foreseeable future though, just CDMA and GSM radios will do.
Now I realize that with all these features comes a hefty price tag, but I'm willing to pay it. I don't want a carrier subsidy, I just want a kick-ass handset that will do what I want it to do.
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That would be freaking awsome. I will have my Nexus One until a "Nexus two" is coming . Still very happy with it, had it for like 8 months now.

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That's why, after a lot of deliberation, I'm getting the LG Optimus 2X

All I want is another aluminum uni-body, ulockable-bootloader phone (just like the Nexus One) with the following feature:
a dual-core 1GHz+ processor
at least 1 GB of on-board storage
sdcard slot
I don't think that is too much to ask, is it? So far, From what I see out there, I'm sticking with my N1. If the HTC DesireHD2/Pyramid actually exists and has a dual-core processor, I'll likely jump to that IFF we can get S-OFF.

efrant said:
All I want is another aluminum uni-body, ulockable-bootloader phone (just like the Nexus One) with the following feature:
a dual-core 1GHz+ processor
at least 1 GB of on-board storage
sdcard slot
I don't think that is too much to ask, is it? So far, From what I see out there, I'm sticking with my N1. If the HTC DesireHD2/Pyramid actually exists and has a dual-core processor, I'll likely jump to that IFF we can get S-OFF.
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what exactly is S-OFF with all these new HTC phones? i keep seeing it around but i am not familiar with what it is.
to answer this thread, i've been in upgrade hell, i simply cant figure out what i would want to replace my nexus one with. nothing out there seems to be "better" than the nexus one for me. is it too hard to get a nice solid aluminum 3.7-4 inch phone with notification light and build quality? the desire s is the highest on my list right now, but that stupid side-charge port turns me off. and no notification light. couldnt they just make the charge port on the bottom like normal?

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what exactly is S-OFF with all these new HTC phones? i keep seeing it around but i am not familiar with what it is.
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S-OFF stands for Security Off. Without getting technical, think of is as an unlocked bootloader.

I'll go for the HTC Pyramid if it shows up unlocked & 4G for tmob usa. Keeping my great N1 till then...

next phone
for me it has to be htc iv experimented and the dev support is with htc it will be a sense phone i cant stand stock

I am going to keep my N1 until the LG Optimus G2x or HTC Pyramid come out on Tmo, but I will wait to see if the Cyanogen team support them. I am not willing to get a phone without CM, or not being able to use custom Roms.
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