Is it possible to use the same rom for both phones?
I have a good one including operator setup for 2020 and would like the same for 2020i. For the 2020i I only have the generic.
Regards
Kim
Despite the very obvious physical similarity they 2020 and 2020i are completely different internally so a ROM for the 2020 will never work on the 2020i.
yes it's differents device. cpu and ram...
how different r they???
i can't decide which device i've got . not sure whether there is an "i" or not
Go into the Device info page on the PPC and see if it says PH10B or PH10C. A B is a Himalaya, a C is an Alpine
I had a IIi as my first PDA. It's pretty clear now WM5+ is never going to make it onto this device, I'd try and sell it off and get a more modern PDA .
Hi,
I have a 2020 (with 2003SE), and just purchased a 2020i (also 2003SE, obviously).
Because my configuration was very much complete and would take a long time to replicate it by installing each individual program, I tried the new version of SPB Backup.
And the results, so far, are excellent! By using their device upgrade mode, I was able to clone the setup of the 2020 to the 2020i. There are a few apps that were not "transferred" but most of them were!
Possibly the reasons for success lie in the same windows mobile version on both devices, but anyway I think it is useful for you to know...
Regards
P.
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Hi, this is my first time posting here. I recently got my Imate pda2k after suffering through hp 6315. Anyways the first thing I did was upgrade the OS to windows mobile 2005. I installed all the patches and everything (assuming the stuff on wikipedia is all up to date). I have been very happy with the imate and LOVE wm 05.
Now to my problem, I haven't tried wifi yet but bluetooth hasn't been working for me At all. I've heard that people have had problems with it dropping after going into standby and what not, but my problem is that I can't even use it at all. I'm using the Tekkeon Eztalker mini bluetooth, and it worked well with the hp 6315. Anyways the device recognizes and finds the bluetooth earpiece but I haven't been able to use it at all. It's like the device recognizes it but it doesn't set it. Please help me out, maybe its something basic that I'm not doing. Tell me step by step how to set up the bluetooth just in case. I'm out of ideas.
Thank you.
oh and a side note : at this point how would you rate WM 2005 in comparison to the latest patches by imate? Which do you guys prefer?
thank you
Hi
I havent performed any upgrades to my XDA2i (official or otherwise) for at least 3 years - are there any upgrades I should consider?
Here is my Device Info
ROM Version : 1.11.00 WWE
ROM Date : 01/27/05
Radio Version : 1.00.00
Protocol Version : 1337.39
ExtROM Version : [THIS IS BLANK]
Model Number : PH10C
Also, I am unable to connect to WiFi with my XDAIIi
The device finds wifi signals and sometimes will make a connection - but when I try and open a webpage I get a screen showing "IIS7" and nothing else.
Here are my settings for WiFi :
Network Card Connects to tiacxwin Campatible Wireless Ethernet (for both The Internet and Work).
Power Save slider is set for Best Performance.
Thanks for any help and advice !!!
Paul
I am in a similar position Paul.
I have been given a 02 XDAll by my company to use for recording surveys.
Its bog standard like yours.
I'd really like to upgrade it but the problem is there is almost too much written about it on these forums .Most of it is so old and out of date that all the links are broken. Its hard work trawling through it.
What is needed is a simple basic upgrading overview listing all the options but I suppose everyone has moved on to more recent PDA's and are no longer interested in these
I've posted a similar request in the Himilayer section .Maybe we can share what we find
Nick
Nick, do you have a Himalaya or an Alpine? PH10B or PH10C?
The Alpine is stuck on WM2003, perfectly good for its task just not upgradeable to WM5 or WM6.
As for customising it realy depends what you are looking for.
Hi DeeDee thank you for responding. I feel guilty hyjacking Paul's thread.
Mine is a Himalaya 10B
with following spec
02 XDAll
2Gb SD card
Rom 1.72.00WWE
Date03/15/04
Radio 1.17.04
ext Rom 1.72.18.1
Ram 128Mb
Model PH10B
I just wanted to improve the Active page if its possible .I cannot read the tiny text so large button icons like the Diamond would be useful
I cannot set the Internet access up either ? have tried for hours.
I have a Netgear Wireless Modem router DG834G but neither the manual or quick guide explain how to set up the XDA .
I have spent several days trawling this site and the net.
Any help appreciated thank you
Nick,
No problem joining in - if we can get the WiFi problem sorted I would be more than happy.
DeeDee,
Should my ExtROM Version be completely blank?
Thanks
Paul
Hi Paul
you're up early !
I have used WM5 on an XDA Mini S (Wizard) a couple of years ago. I imagine that most of the current software and apps are written for WM5 orWM6 so it will mean I'll need to upgrade to WM6. Presume that means flashing the Rom which judging by the number of disasters on this forum is not something I'd do lightly.
Particularly as there are virtually no answers to requests for help.
I found a statement last night that basically says unless you are a software developer you arn't welcome on this forum which probably explains the lack of help.
Yours has the 128 Rom as apposed to my 64Mb which is a big advantage. I have gone off the idea of buying a Himalaya or an Alpine as they are too antiquated really which is a shame as I love the build quality and screen size.
I'm going to look for something a bit more contemporary I think . In the mean time I'll enjoy using the works XDA ll
Hi
Flashing the Himalaya to WM5 or WM6 is painless and it has to be said slightly addictive, you will try many ROMs until you find one you like. Think I have tried most of the ROMs for the Himalaya.
The lack of help has NOTHING to do with not being a developer, i'm not one and have had lots of help. The problem is probably due to the lack of people using these PPCs. i have to confess my Himalaya is purely there as something to muck about with, work didn't want it any more. i have a Trinity as primary PPC phone and an Alpine with an application that doesn't work on WM5.
You won't get your Himalaya to connect to your WiFi as it doesn't do WiFi without an add on card.
DeeDee,
Should my (Alpine) ExtROM Version be completely blank?
Thanks
Paul
Hi Paul
Can't remember and my Alpine is at home, but i don't think so.
deedee said:
Hi
Flashing the Himalaya to WM5 or WM6 is painless and it has to be said slightly addictive, you will try many ROMs until you find one you like. Think I have tried most of the ROMs for the Himalaya.
The lack of help has NOTHING to do with not being a developer, i'm not one and have had lots of help. The problem is probably due to the lack of people using these PPCs. i have to confess my Himalaya is purely there as something to muck about with, work didn't want it any more. i have a Trinity as primary PPC phone and an Alpine with an application that doesn't work on WM5.
You won't get your Himalaya to connect to your WiFi as it doesn't do WiFi without an add on card.
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Thankyou DeeDee I appreciate you taking the trouble to answer silly questions by a noob.
I have downloaded and printed out a 140 page manual and there was nothing clear about connecting to wi-fi
If I have to carry this Hima around with me all day I might as well have it working as well as it can.I had intended to purchase a 3g Iphone for myself but now I'm not so sure I might buy a HTC instead if I can find one with 3.5" screen and wi-fi and a reasonable interface like touchflo
Nick
i have to say the smaller screen on my Trinity is perfectly adequate and that the larger form factor of the Alpine/Himalaya means you need a headset/handsfree kit to really use it as a phone.
It's also not pocketable, which my Trinity is, just.
If you can find a decent mobile shop and have a touchy feely sesion with as many as you can.
thanks DeeDee thats excellent advice. Photos never give a good indication of size and ease of use . The size is a bind like you say its heavy and too big for a shirt pocket but it is easier for me to work with using reading glasses.
I got an 02 XDA mini S when they first came out. I found the screen too small and fiddly and it stayed in the box unused for 18 months when I sold it on ebay for nothing so I have learnt my lesson.
DeeDee may I just ask one other question please. I have trawled through the wiki and various other sources but I still haven'y founf an answer to my initial question on the Himalaya board.
Q1 How do you install a new app on the Hima or Alpine ?
Q2. where does it get installed to ?
Today we lost the special survey App again Grrrrrrrrrrrv because the flippin battery went flat.
My boss is hopping mad and blames me !....I blame IT cos they installed it.
There must be somewhere we can install an App to that is non volatile and is not lost every time the battery goes flat.
Presumably the same place that WM2003 is installed ? How is it done ?
To install an app either:
1 - use Active Sync to install it if necessary
2 - if the install is a CAB file copy it to a memory card and then click it on the PPC to run the install.
As for the where it installs, when you run the installer it may ask where you wish to install, either Device/Storage Card. Make sure both batteries are charging. In all honesty it's not your fault that the end users aren't charging their Alpine on a regular basis.
I have WM 6.1 Pro and tomtom navigator 6. I want to ask that is there any way i can make my built-in gps search faster for the satteline beside using quickgps? thank you
What exact ROM are you using? Early WM6.1 ROMs (those ported form other devices, before the official one came) had very long times to first fix (several minutes).
The current ones have normal times of about 30 seconds.
It's WM 6.1 Pro
CE OS 5.2 19214
I dont know if it is a current one or the one was ported.How do i know? i bought it as used
shadowluan said:
It's WM 6.1 Pro
CE OS 5.2 19214
I dont know if it is a current one or the one was ported.How do i know? i bought it as used
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Is 'it' a HTC TyTN II, AT&T Tilt, Vodafone v1615, O2 XDA Stellar etc? If you bought it used, the previous owner may have changed the ROM or Radio/SPL through a process known as flashing. Does it all appear the same as whats shown in your manual for the device (or if you don't have the hardcopy, what is shown on the downloadable manual from the device provider)?
Check out the XDA-wiki pages if you're new to your device, it'll answer lots of questions you may otherwise be tempted to ask here needlessly. Newer WM 6.1 versions of HTC TyTN II ROMs (including the very latest UK released World Wide English - WWE one) have terrible GPS times to get a satellite lock when compared to the original WM 6.0 ROMs so if GPS functioning is important, for the mean-time until the ROM is fixed, you may want to have it reverted to an older ROM that works faster.
I never used to have problems then I sent my phone back for repair and they updated me to WM 6.1 which was the start of my GPS problems.
Anyway I've just set the external GPS to 9600 as suggest by CHfish and hey presto back to a fast fix. Don't set anything else on the external GPS as this can really bugger up your internal GPS.
I have my HP 6515 for about 3 years now, and it's still working fine.
But even if it's updated to the latest official ROM from the HP site, the Windows Mobile 2003 Second Edition on it, is just getting to old.
I think it would be great, if there would be made a cooked ROM for this device, with Windows Mobile 5 or 6. There would be some many more possibilities with this device, just with a ROM upgrade.
For example: the latest versions of DivX Player Mobile don't support WiMo 2003 (SE). I have to use one of the earliest versions to play AVI's on this device. It can play them fine, without hitches or errors, but you have to use an idiot old version, and you have to set the date to 2006 to get it working.
It's not because I don't want to buy a new phone or something alike (I have an HTC Prophet with WiMo 6.1) but I'd like to learn how to make a cooked ROM, and there's nothing better to experiment with than this device
What are the needs to create cooked ROM's, what software do you need, etc ?
I know there are people who can explain this to me on this forum, and I'm not afraid to learn (or brick my HP ).
Wow, it's great I'm getting so much response...
Does anyone here actually reads this ????????
Impossible
Don't bother anymore cause from what I've been reading it's not possible to put WM5 on iPAQ 65xx because of hardware incompatible memory, and if WM5 don't work WM 6.x is out of the questions cause it uses even more memory.
Have fun with WM2003SE.
yep!
even if you ask HP about it...
hello!
I bought a qtek 2020i and wanted to update it because he's with windows mobile 2003 second editon, and wanted to upgrade it to wm 5.0 or one that is possible. through a rom, but I need you to explain how to install everything, but I am new at this and does not realize anything.
even better was if they could get the software in Portuguese.
thanks
greetings
I'm afraid that WM2003SE is as far as our beloved Alpine devices are able to go, WM 5 and above is simply not possible on this hardware.
However it's still a wonderful device, and it's still my main phone/pda to this day, despite now having access to 'better' hardware
zenity said:
I'm afraid that WM2003SE is as far as our beloved Alpine devices are able to go, WM 5 and above is simply not possible on this hardware.
However it's still a wonderful device, and it's still my main phone/pda to this day, despite now having access to 'better' hardware
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I think so ....but it's a pity,why not have a wm6.1
but magician is have wm6.1 ?
why?...
paopaotang said:
I think so ....but it's a pity,why not have a wm6.1
but magician is have wm6.1 ?
why?...
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The reason why other HTC devices are able to run WM5 or above is quite complicated, but to be brief, it all comes down to the hardware/software interface, the OS must be able to access the hardware, and for this it needs drivers.
The problem is, Alpine's hardware is different from those devices which can run WM5 and above, and the drivers do not exist, and cannot be modified from other devices.
WM2003se drivers cannot work on WM5, and no other drivers are available, so I'm afraid it's an impossible dream.
In theory it might be possible to develop a version of Android for the Alpine, but this would require a team of skilled developers, and although there are such skilled developers here, I doubt they'd be interested in developing for what is now old hardware.
So, no WM5 or WM6 or Android, only dependable, stable and fast WM2003SE