How to back up settings when upgrading OS? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Hi all,
I've googled a bit for this, but can't find a decent answer. What I'm looking for is a way to back up not just my contacts etc, but also settings, installed programs and the like, that will work across an OS upgrade to WM6.1
Basically I'm running an Orange WM6.0 ROM, and want to upgrade, but don't want to have to reinstall all my various programs, connection settings, SMSs etc etc.
Spb backup now claims that it works across ROM upgrades - does that stretch to OS upgrades? Any other way of doing it?

You need a program that will do a full system backup. I used to use Sprite and have recently switched to SPB and it really works wonders.

mmm... I looked in more detail and it looks like spb doesn't work when you upgrade the ROM... what it can actually do is a system restore. Any other ideas?

they're all really predicated on restoring things based on the same rom or saving you from a hard reset. nothing is going to plug back your installed programs, or else projects like the SASHIMI to sleuth's SDconfig would have no point.
there are programs like PIMbackup that will save contacts and the like, but nothing will bring force and upgraded rom to look and work exactly like a previously fully-installed-to-your-liking rom

nickd79 said:
mmm... I looked in more detail and it looks like spb doesn't work when you upgrade the ROM... what it can actually do is a system restore. Any other ideas?
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Not true. It's not recommended but it doesn't mean that it can't be done. I just upgraded to another ROM and pulled a backup from a previous ROM and used the "ROM upgrade option" which worked great.

Fair point bravo; I was really wondering whether it was possible to (for example) save the connection settings to avoid me having to go through that palaver again. SMS's and outlook data are saved by most programs; and I can reinstall most other programs without too much difficulty.
Not to worry - thanks for the help

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Good Backup app

anyone know a good app that would back up my contacts with pictures and all emails? i wanna backup my contacts with all information attached on regular basis.. any suggestions?
I don't know if you'll need something specific for syncing pics and contacts, but I use Sprite Backup and I've had nothing but positive results with it on both my old 6315 and my Qtek (WM5 & 6). It's a bit expensive, but I don't think HP uses Sprite as its OEM backup software for nothing.
JMHO
I use SPB Backup and it work fine. Almost like doing an image of your pocket pc. Once I had to hard reset and and everything was reformatted so I lost all my contacts and programs. Hit the exe file that spb backup made and after about 10 mins, everything was back to normal. Didn't have to resinstall anything
S-K-Tools is enough..
i like the suggestions.. i will be looking into it.. SPB Backup sounds interesting.
If you are on a WM6 ROM make sure you test things out. I haven't used it, but I've heard people say that Sprite Backup (while a really nice program) has issues with restores on WM6 (and on some roms, it just doesn't work).
I've been using SPB backup (will look at paying for it this week) with no problems on AKU3.3 and now WM6 MBE.
SPB
SPB backup works perfectly with WM6 (even differnt ROMs). I made a backup .exe with SPB while on Orwell and then flashed to MB. I did not think the old backup exe would work, but it did and restored most of my contacts, settings, calender and applications back. Some apps did not work but many did.
On the same ROM, I have had perfect results.
I've had no problems with Sprite switching contacts and documents from WM5 to Crossbow. The self-restoring backup files work like a charm and only miss one file when restoring WM6. The file is non-essential.

ghost image a WM6 device>?

Is there anyway you can take an image of your kaiser?
So if i do have to hard reset, i can re-image it back to the state it was working? Exactly, e.g. including user settings and bookmarks?
Thanks
flashy said:
Is there anyway you can take an image of your kaiser?
So if i do have to hard reset, i can re-image it back to the state it was working? Exactly, e.g. including user settings and bookmarks?
Thanks
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If you are just hard reseting and still using the same ROM (very important) you can use SPB or Sprite backup.
Most Kaiser ROM's are now UC (user customisation) compliant, this can install CAB's and Configure settings for you.
ta
Dave
thanks, just purchased sprite backup, looks superb.
Actually SPBClone is almost exactly like ghost... I use it all the time.

HELP: Can't use PIM Backup after ROM update to WM 6.1

Hi everybody
I have upgraded to the official HTC WM 6.1 ROM... and I did not like that much.
naturally I wanted to change to another ROM, so I opened PIM Backup 2.8, and tried to create a backup of my contacts and SMSs ...
the Problem is the is NO "NEXT" button...
I can't complete the backup process...
and I don't want to risk using ActiveSync... I had all my contacts deleted once because of it.
PIM backup works in restoring info.. but I can't get it to backup
I have been searching the forum for the last three days to find a solution...but digging in through 94 pages of the same topic gave me nothing but headaches
I might have missed something....if so... Please share with me...
thanks in advance
P.S: I found that the device became a bit unresponsive after restoring my contacts ans SMS using PIM backup on WM 6.1, does anybody have something like that?
I could be talking out of my **** (wouldn't be the first time ), but I seem to remember reading somewhere on the forum that you need to disable the Threaded SMS before running PIM backup - assuming you've left it "ON" which is the default for WM6.1?? You can use Schaps' Advanced Config to disable it.
PIM backup works on my WM6.1 ROM (Garmin.DK.3 - Threaded SMS turned off) - have you tried just ticking the Contacts and not the Messages to see if the Next button is enabled then??
Mark.
yeah, I have tried that before, and it did not work for me
I'll try search the registry and delete anything related to PIM Backup... then use it again...
BTW, I love your signature
I just updated my Tilt to 6.1 and found out after I did that the Sprint backup that comes with the Tilt has to be upgraded. I had to hard reset my phone and start over. You can get the newer version from HTC for free as an upgrade. The problem I had was with the Tilt saying my email accounts were locked and none of the fixes would work, but I read other post about other problems as well.
I'm using HyperDragon III pro ROM, and the problem is still there...
any ideas?
duke911 said:
I'm using HyperDragon III pro ROM, and the problem is still there...
any ideas?
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Have you posted on the PIMbackup thread (here) - if not, you could try that?? If you have, and you've got no (satisfactory) response, you could always email Fred - DotFred - via his website.
Not wishing to cast aspersions, but, have you gone down the RTFM route - the PIMbackup user guide is on www.dotfred.net if you haven't already got it.
One last thing.....you could check out the tutorial from @scotchua's signature (link here) - which suggest that PowerSMS may also work. There's a 14-day unrestricted trial on the website here.
That's me all out of ideas - hope this lot gets you where you wanna be
Mark.

Official WM 6.1 update & Sprite Backup

Hi all. I am about to install the official WM 6.1 upgrade on the Kaiser of my uncle. Since we don't want to lose contacts and messages, I was thinking of using Sprite Backup to restore them after the upgrade. The question is: will this work? I suppose it may not, since WM 6.1 may use a different format to store messages.
Please reply as fast as possible. Thanks!
EDIT: I have found PIM Backup in the FAQ, which should work. In any case can you confirm that?
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Hi all. I am about to install the official WM 6.1 upgrade on the Kaiser of my uncle. Since we don't want to lose contacts and messages, I was thinking of using Sprite Backup to restore them after the upgrade. The question is: will this work? I suppose it may not, since WM 6.1 may use a different format to store messages.
Please reply as fast as possible. Thanks!
EDIT: I have found PIM Backup in the FAQ, which should work. In any case can you confirm that?
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I found that sprite back up, backs up everything,including system settings and 6.0 settings which are not compatible with 6.1. I found myself jumping through hoops to pick and choose info out of sprite back up to restore.
If it is just contacts and messages , I found that PIM backup was a much easier route to work with. It works great with the Kaiser.
Ok, I'm going to try with PIM Backup. Thanks!
Make sure to have the latest Sprite Backup version and use "Upgrade Mode" in the Sprite Backup 'Restore' options (see help file).
anoano said:
Make sure to have the latest Sprite Backup version and use "Upgrade Mode" in the Sprite Backup 'Restore' options (see help file).
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I have found out that my uncle had all contacts stored on the SIM card (aaaargh!) and just something like 15 SMSs (and none of them really important), no appointments on the calendar, no activities, no documents, and just a few notes and photos stored in the memory card, so actually there was almost nothing to back up. PIM backup was more than enough.
In any case thank you too.
And before someone tells me, yes, I know that this is like owning a Ferrari or a Rolls Royce and then driving only in the 1st gear.
Black Antitoon said:
And before someone tells me, yes, I know that this is like owning a Ferrari or a Rolls Roice and then driving only in the 1st gear.
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Ha , I have had my Tilt for more than a year, it is sim/cid unlocked, running Hyperdragon III Raphael . I have games ,photos, videos, appointments , tasks , threaded sms and over 300 contacts, and I use PIM backup when I re flash because it is simply a good back up app. I have never lost anything.
I meant that owning a Kaiser and having no Outlook contacts, no documents, two 3rd party apps (TomTom - included - and Opera Mobile, installed by me) is like owning a Rolls Royce and driving in the 1st gear, not using PIM backup. For such an usage any 30 € LG phone is enough. Sorry for not being clear.
Black Antitoon said:
I meant that owning a Kaiser and having no Outlook contacts, no documents, two 3rd party apps (TomTom - included - and Opera Mobile, installed by me) is like owning a Rolls Royce and driving in the 1st gear, not using PIM backup. For such an usage any 30 € LG phone is enough. Sorry for not being clear.
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LOL, Owning a Rolls Royce to drive back and forth to the grocery. just means you have class and good taste. ( and maybe too much money )
Well he's not super-rich but I assume he had enough money for getting it without planning it months or years before. That's probably because he's married but with no children... And yes, in any case he has good taste.

Sprite Backup / New Rom Question

Hello.... After checking out Sprite Backup's site.. it claims you can save your settings, upgrade your device, then restore your previous settings... Is this true?
I am still running the stock AT&T WM 6.0 rom (minus the bloatware wit hthe reset trick) and have many programs installed like TomTom, games, HTC Home, etc...
Also, I use a smaller GSM Service Provider (Einstein Wireless). Because of this, I have a lot of custom settings (Internet, MMS, proxy settings, etc). It would be GREAT if I could save all this data and just load it into whatever rom I wanted to try out.. It would mean it would not be an all day event to set up my phone...
To me, this would not make much sence that it would work because there are so many diffrent versions of WM 5-6.5, that just inserting the setting like a blanket can;t be a good idea... Just looking for input on this, and which, if any, would this work with for me? Thank you in advance for you input...
Teej53214 said:
Hello.... After checking out Sprite Backup's site.. it claims you can save your settings, upgrade your device, then restore your previous settings... Is this true?
I am still running the stock AT&T WM 6.0 rom (minus the bloatware wit hthe reset trick) and have many programs installed like TomTom, games, HTC Home, etc...
Also, I use a smaller GSM Service Provider (Einstein Wireless). Because of this, I have a lot of custom settings (Internet, MMS, proxy settings, etc). It would be GREAT if I could save all this data and just load it into whatever rom I wanted to try out.. It would mean it would not be an all day event to set up my phone...
To me, this would not make much sence that it would work because there are so many diffrent versions of WM 5-6.5, that just inserting the setting like a blanket can;t be a good idea... Just looking for input on this, and which, if any, would this work with for me? Thank you in advance for you input...
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According to many actual users experiences, chances to migrate all your data and settings from WM 6.0 to WM 6.1 or higher are very low.
Sad but true
Thanks for the input.. but from what you are saying.. I would be able to do it from 6.1 rom to 6.1 rom or 6.2 rom to 6.2 rom ?
Teej53214 said:
Thanks for the input.. but from what you are saying.. I would be able to do it from 6.1 rom to 6.1 rom or 6.2 rom to 6.2 rom ?
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If you are talking a custom ROM - I doubt it.
The chefs make lots of special accomodations and the ods that it will work out of the box on a custom ROM is not something that I would bet ANY money on at all.
Bill
Teej53214 said:
Hello.... After checking out Sprite Backup's site.. it claims you can save your settings, upgrade your device, then restore your previous settings... Is this true?
I am still running the stock AT&T WM 6.0 rom (minus the bloatware wit hthe reset trick) and have many programs installed like TomTom, games, HTC Home, etc...
Also, I use a smaller GSM Service Provider (Einstein Wireless). Because of this, I have a lot of custom settings (Internet, MMS, proxy settings, etc). It would be GREAT if I could save all this data and just load it into whatever rom I wanted to try out.. It would mean it would not be an all day event to set up my phone...
To me, this would not make much sence that it would work because there are so many diffrent versions of WM 5-6.5, that just inserting the setting like a blanket can;t be a good idea... Just looking for input on this, and which, if any, would this work with for me? Thank you in advance for you input...
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Sprite back up will backup and restore your data from 6.0 to 6.1. But it will not restore your settings. Different roms, 6.0,6.1 and 6.5, have different registry settings and differing shortcut pathways and such, so while some restored settings will work, many will not . And your phone will freeze while Sprite tries to sort it all out. (from experience ) There is a way to upgrade sprite to 6.1 on the upgraded rom, to allow setting to be restored, but it never worked for me and I just gave up and restored apps manually.
Oh and FYI , this should have been posted in Kaiser General, it really has nothing to do with rom development or custom roms. Just trying to be helpful for future posting.
denco7 said:
Oh and FYI , this should have been posted in Kaiser General, it really has nothing to do with rom development or custom roms. Just trying to be helpful for future posting.
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Dave

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