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It use to work before I had Shaps Rom on mine, now resco apps wont work and on occasion Windows Live Messenger wont work. . . Some other apps are Skype, zsIRC, Coreplayer(Yes I have the 1.1.3 one), some others but you get the idea. What could be the problem? I have the right MEdia Net and AT&T ISP settings.
Anyone? What could the problem be?
It would probably help if you posted your set up, i.e. rom/radio/os versions...
Ah, well, I said shaps rom. And I have the radio ver: 1.27.12.17. It could be the radio, but now I am only getting edge speeds, when I am in a city with all 3G and edge in the suburbs and ghetto areas?
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Ah, well, I said shaps rom. And I have the radio ver: 1.27.12.17. It could be the radio, but now I am only getting edge speeds, when I am in a city with all 3G and edge in the suburbs and ghetto areas?
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oh? i thought schaps had more than one rom released.
with my current setup i haven't had any problems or complaints with edge or 3g.
so, how's your rom coming along?
Oh, lol thats what you meant. . . Its the 4.31 one. I dont know. I havent been able to use certian apps. . . and a moment ago it didnt have any connection and now it does and it jumps from edge to GSPA and then sometimes I cant have 3G back and when I do it messes everything up, like the carrier logo says AT&T 3G instead of regular AT&T and it would change the HSPDA symbol to 3G and sometimes its normal with the Hspda symbol? Why does it do that? Well I'm off to be its too late here anyways. ., it could be a network problem IDK but I hope it corrects it self in the morning.
What part of town are you in so maybe you could help me?
the band switching problem is my favorite. you are lucky to only get that now. try turning off your band setting from auto to either gsm or 3g, that worked for me. you could always change your radio and see if that helps.
oh, and your apps not working, ..... hard reset yet?
i'm generally all over town during the day, but i live near the uni.
although i don't know how much help i'd actually be.
Tried that and I don't want to start all over after 6 flashes(During the time I flashed to the shaps rom out of the time I've had it). Well, it works now. It could have been my area. UNLV? I am by the community college.
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Oh, lol thats what you meant. . . Its the 4.31 one. I dont know. I havent been able to use certian apps. . . and a moment ago it didnt have any connection and now it does and it jumps from edge to GSPA and then sometimes I cant have 3G back and when I do it messes everything up, like the carrier logo says AT&T 3G instead of regular AT&T and it would change the HSPDA symbol to 3G and sometimes its normal with the Hspda symbol? Why does it do that? Well I'm off to be its too late here anyways. ., it could be a network problem IDK but I hope it corrects it self in the morning.
What part of town are you in so maybe you could help me?
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Normal operation of HSDPA is this: In a 3G area the 3G icon will show. While data is being transferred the H icon will show. Once the data transfer is complete it will go back to the 3G icon. I think part of what you are describing is normal oeration.
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Well, no. My whole town is almost 3G, so I dont think its that and it would say HSPDA all the time even with out data transfers. I think the network had a hiccup yesterday. It only did the 3G icon thing when I would have been messing with the band selection(hasent happened lately it only happened 2 weeks ago).
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Well, no. My whole town is almost 3G, so I dont think its that and it would say HSPDA all the time even with out data transfers. I think the network had a hiccup yesterday. It only did the 3G icon thing when I would have been messing with the band selection(hasent happened lately it only happened 2 weeks ago).
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You should not be on H all the time, even when no data is being transferred. My phone got stuck like that once. A soft reset fixed it.
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Well not connected, all the time it just says [H], is there something wrong with that? I thought that was 3G? When ever the [3G] symbol comes on the carrier display area not the connectivity area says AT&T 3G and when its normal it just says AT&T.
This is very strange. As of yesterday my Tilt seems to be stuck in HSDPA mode.
Before yesterday when the phone booted it would first momentarily display G mode, then media net would try to connect and it would go to 3G mode. Then as the boot completes the application which access the internet kick in and the phone jumps to H mode for the downloads. When the downloads were done, it would settle back into 3G mode. That is normal behavior for the Tilt as it was for my old Hermes.
As of yesterday it starts in H and stays in H all day and nothing I do seems to be able to get it out of H. I have tried turning off the phone, turning off and on the HSDPA setting, rechecked all my tweaks, no change. I have done everything I can think short of a hard reset.
I was convinced it was a software issue on my phone, until I looked at my wife's phone. Her Tilt is doing the same thing as of yesterday. She is on the stock AT&T ROM (no bloatware) and I am on the Official HTC TYTN II WWE ROM (6.1) So the phones are different in terms of software and tweaks.
Thus I concluded it must be a network issue here in the Orlando Area. The network has been changing here of late. So I call At&t and even their second level tech support could not understand. They said we will have to take the phones back and get new ones.
The batteries are draining very fast in this mode. Does any one have any other ideas? This has to be a network problem, right?
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This is very strange. As of yesterday my Tilt seems to be stuck in HSDPA mode.
Before yesterday when the phone booted it would first momentarily display G mode, then media net would try to connect and it would go to 3G mode. Then as the boot completes the application which access the internet kick in and the phone jumps to H mode for the downloads. When the downloads were done, it would settle back into 3G mode. That is normal behavior for the Tilt as it was for my old Hermes.
As of yesterday it starts in H and stays in H all day and nothing I do seems to be able to get it out of H. I have tried turning off the phone, turning off and on the HSDPA setting, rechecked all my tweaks, no change. I have done everything I can think short of a hard reset.
I was convinced it was a software issue on my phone, until I looked at my wife's phone. Her Tilt is doing the same thing as of yesterday. She is on the stock AT&T ROM (no bloatware) and I am on the Official HTC TYTN II WWE ROM (6.1) So the phones are different in terms of software and tweaks.
Thus I concluded it must be a network issue here in the Orlando Area. The network has been changing here of late. So I call At&t and even their second level tech support could not understand. They said we will have to take the phones back and get new ones.
The batteries are draining very fast in this mode. Does any one have any other ideas? This has to be a network problem, right?
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d/l a communication manager that has a 3g on/off button see if that works
i believe duttys 10 button com manager should do the trick.
Congratulations! ATT turned on HSUPA in your area. What you described originally (3G going to H when doing data transfer and then back to 3G) is what the Tilt does when you only have HSDPA in your area. Once ATT turns on HSUPA (so now you have HSPA for both uploads and downloads) it will stay with H until you leave and enter an area that doesn't have HSUPA.
Bottom line is that there is nothing wrong with your phones.
I am not sure why you are seeing poor battery life. I have been living with H for almost 6 months and haven't noticed any changes in battery and haven't heard other people complaining about that either.
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Congratulations! ATT turned on HSUPA in your area. What you described originally (3G going to H when doing data transfer and then back to 3G) is what the Tilt does when you only have HSDPA in your area. Once ATT turns on HSUPA (so now you have HSPA for both uploads and downloads) it will stay with H until you leave and enter an area that doesn't have HSUPA.
Bottom line is that there is nothing wrong with your phones.
I am not sure why you are seeing poor battery life. I have been living with H for almost 6 months and haven't noticed any changes in battery and haven't heard other people complaining about that either.
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Wow jglev, thanks for the prompt info. Even the AT&T techies couldn't tell me that. I asked them about the network changes that have been going on. We have noticed that the name of the network has been changing over the last week fro "umts-AT&T" to "3G AT&T" to now just "AT&T" so I knew there were changes. But when i asked AT&T specifically, they couldn't tell me. Not surprising i guess.
My battery statement was more of an assumption I guess. it was my understanding from my past with the hermes that when the phone went into H mode the radio would take more battery power. and that is why the OS settles back into straight 3G mode in between downloads. Do you know if that is true on the Kaiser. What kind of battery life do you get in the HSUPA mode?
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Wow jglev, thanks for the prompt info. Even the AT&T techies couldn't tell me that. I asked them about the network changes that have been going on. We have noticed that the name of the network has been changing over the last week fro "umts-AT&T" to "3G AT&T" to now just "AT&T" so I knew there were changes. But when i asked AT&T specifically, they couldn't tell me. Not surprising i guess.
My battery statement was more of an assumption I guess. it was my understanding from my past with the hermes that when the phone went into H mode the radio would take more battery power. and that is why the OS settles back into straight 3G mode in between downloads. Do you know if that is true on the Kaiser. What kind of battery life do you get in the HSUPA mode?
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It is true that any 3G mode uses more battery power than say Edge or GSM, but I don't know if full H mode is any worse than just HSDPA. I can easily go a full day without charging, but since I have a charger at home, in the office, in the car and one I travel with, I ususally don't have to. When the phone is displaying H, it doesn't mean it is actively transmitting data, just that the network is H (and if you have the little H by the signal bar, then you are connected to the data network). So even if it's dormant, you will see the H. There really isn't an easy way to see if you are actively transmitting data with the Tilt/Kaiser as far as I know. If I remember correctly when I had the Hermes (which didn't have the little 3G by the signal bar, just the larger square icon), you could tell from the icon (the little arrows would light up), but you can't with the Kaiser.
And yes, for the most part, you will find that the people here (and HoFo) know way more than those who works for ATT (but there are exceptions).
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Wow jglev, thanks for the prompt info. Even the AT&T techies couldn't tell me that. I asked them about the network changes that have been going on. We have noticed that the name of the network has been changing over the last week fro "umts-AT&T" to "3G AT&T" to now just "AT&T" so I knew there were changes. But when i asked AT&T specifically, they couldn't tell me. Not surprising i guess.
My battery statement was more of an assumption I guess. it was my understanding from my past with the hermes that when the phone went into H mode the radio would take more battery power. and that is why the OS settles back into straight 3G mode in between downloads. Do you know if that is true on the Kaiser. What kind of battery life do you get in the HSUPA mode?
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No offense directed a KD8DNS, but the At&t Techs only know what their magical screen tells them, or if they are the few with brains, it's what they've overheard and learned in addition to the screen.
I worked a LOOONG time ago as a CSR for Voicestream, the Call Center people don't know item one on where the network is being expanded at what time. They have to wait for the "screen" the be updated, which can take a while.
OH and the fact there it phone says "H" now, is a good thing.
I've had "H" on my Tilt since the first time I powered it on last October. Even my 1 week stay in Pinellas County FL didn't leave me with an E/G.
As far as battery life is concerned, it is true that 3G/HSDPA will deplete your charge quicker that Edge. The way I get around that is using KaiserTweak to automatically kill my data connection after 1 minute of inactivity.
The data tweak combined with a nice low-power radio allow my phone to standby for 3-4 days.
Push Email and online IM with HSPA kill a battery in about 6-7 hours for me (stock Tilt rom/radio). I'm sure that if you only use data when you need to, it's not a big deal, but data being used pretty much all the time is killer compared to EDGE.
I've tried to stick with HSPA a few times rather than having to switch back and forth, but the battery life sucks (again, with push email and IM online) and the phone stays about 38c all the time at 'idle'. EDGE it's cold as ice all the time and the battery lasts about 24h.
I'm updating rom/radio soon, perhaps it is better with other radios.
I have an Orange branded TyTn II, and it never connects up to 3G even though the area i live in is well covered by 3G.
It mostly stays on G. It has changed to E (EDGE) on occasions but thats it.
I am from the UK and live in the yorkshire area.
Anybody got any ideas, or do i need to speak to Orange?
Thanks
ahanson said:
I have an Orange branded TyTn II, and it never connects up to 3G even though the area i live in is well covered by 3G.
It mostly stays on G. It has changed to E (EDGE) on occasions but thats it.
I am from the UK and live in the yorkshire area.
Anybody got any ideas, or do i need to speak to Orange?
Thanks
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Did u check the band settings in settings/personal/phone?
I went into the settings and it says it is set to Auto.
So i would presume it would pick upthe best signal?
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I went into the settings and it says it is set to Auto.
So i would presume it would pick upthe best signal?
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Yes, at least that is doing in my case.
If that is the case any other ideas as to what it could be, and why the phone does not detect 3G?
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ahanson said:
If that is the case any other ideas as to what it could be, and why the phone does not detect 3G?
Thanks
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Where are u from?
Go to commanager and check if there is 3g turned on.
Did u try to search this forum?
Check my first post for location.
In comm manager there is no option for 3G, the only other choice i can see is data connection, and i cannot turn this on.
The Connection button is only used to disconnect active data connections.
I ,along with some friends, have also been having problems with Orange's 3G the last few days (I just came back to the UK so I'm not sure how far back the problem started - my friends say its been like this for at least a week). Not sure if it is related though. Oh, I live in Essex.
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Check my first post for location.
In comm manager there is no option for 3G, the only other choice i can see is data connection, and i cannot turn this on.
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U can install advanced config tool, and there under menu u can choose the layout of the commanager(there u can put the 3G button on the screen). But it could be the above mention reason.
My problem just got more complicated.
Have a look at this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=2606166
Hi alt236,
The strange thing is my unit has recently come back from repair, and the main board has been replaced, under warranty, because of a dodgy ROM flash, and the 3G still does not work.
Weird.
Have you tried with a different SIM card?
Ok, I just had a chat with Orange support. Thankfully I got a pretty helpful guy
Anyway, according to him, Orange does not fully support 3G yet (at least not officially) as only about 50% of their masts are 3G enabled. This means that they get network congestion problems causing devices not to connect or drop connections unexpectedly.
His advice was to try to connect at different times of the day, and to force the connection on the Kaiser (not to set it to auto).
As I live in an area with 4-5 3G masts immediately around me (yes, I know I will die from cancer ) its a bit weird for me to be unable to connect, but I'll give it another go, at a unsociable hour (4 in the morning for example) and see what happens then.
He did ask me if I wanted to get my phone tested though, so if it doesn't work tonight, I'll send it off and hope for the best.
Nice One alt236, that would explain the lack of 3G.
I will give it a go at different times of the day and see what happens.
Thnx
No luck with my overnight test.
I passed by an Orange shop in town this morning and I spoke with one of the staff members there.
He proposed that before I ship it out, I should call 156 which is technical support for data enquiries (MMS/WAP & WEB/Email) and PDA's as they can see what my phone is actually trying to do when connecting and push updated settings to it.
I've tried calling a couple of times today, but the queue is too long. I'll post back when I have news.
i have the exact same problem, please let me know what orange have to say!
Yes, I know there is no 1700mhz AWS on this phone.
Got an HK ver diamond last week. Immediately put my sim in and got an "H" icon. Being my first 3G phone I thought Edge was wacky. Later Icon changed to "E", so I thought Edge was finally working right (although surfing seemed fast at first).
Played with it for a few days, flashed to Duttys latest (had 1.37) and 1.00.25.05 radio.
Today while reading through these forums I realized that the "H" meant HSDPA. I can't possibly imaging how that could have been real 3G.
I bought this phone knowing I would not get 3G on it here.
I Know T-mobile is just going live, but I never should have seen that "H". Maybe because I was just a few miles from T-Mobile headquarters? Maybe they were testing something? A bug in the phone?
Any ideas?
everyone now and again i recieve the H icon, even though im not connected through HSPDA and infact it's only edge, i think its just a bug
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... while reading through these forums I realized that the "H" meant HSDPA. I can't possibly imaging how that could have been real 3G...
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Amazing but hoping it's real You may want to benchmark the speed and compare with reported: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409147&highlight=3g+speed. Let's know, ok?
http://www.dslreports.com/mspeed?jisok=1
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everyone now and again i recieve the H icon, even though im not connected through HSPDA and infact it's only edge, i think its just a bug
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I think that pretty much sums it up.
Should it happen again I'll do the speed test.
nah...i think it's just the phone trying to search for signal in every possible band, so it stopped on H for awhile on your phone then go back to EDGE...
A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!
Headroom said:
A week ago I got a second hand Tilt. It AT&T branded but a HTC rom was flashed to it, ROM version 3.28.405.0 WWE, Radio 1.65.17.56, Pototcol 25.83.40.02H.
My issue is I see not "3G" indicator on the screen in areas where I know there's coverage (my other phone does indicate 3G coverage). So what could this mean? Is something missing??
Any info is appreciated.
Thanks!
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You mean there is not reception icon, or there is icon but it doesnt show 3G? What it shows then?
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Is something missing??
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Having already read the HTC User Manual for the TyTN II perhaps? If you get the pdf from HTCs website (or even search for it) and have a read, you'll see that in areas of 3G coverage, sometimes the device will display a 'H' which is superior to ordinary old 3G.
My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.
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My issue is that I'm in an area with 3G coverage, my other cell indicates this with a "3G" icon on it's screen, but my tilt does not indicate or detects 3G coverage. There's no "3G" or "H" on my display.
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Can u post screenshot of your screen? What icons do u have there(on the upper bar)?
You may want to look for something like Kaiser Tweak or something else that disables 3g.. Also you can try tapping on the signal icon at the top and make sure that all the data/3g stuff is turned on at the bottom.
Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?
Kaiser Tweak = under Data
Advanced config = again, under Data.
Tried it...no joy!
Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.
Does your sim support 3G?
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Went to Adv. Config. and eneble everything under data connections. Still nothing.
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Did you check in Advance config to see if just the icons are turned of ? I believe you can just turn the icons off ( because some people find them annoying ) but still call and connect at 3G speed. Are you lacking speed or just the icons. ?
Let me re-state
I've had this Tilt for about a week, my other cell (Samsung A737) indicates "3G" all the time while I'm at work so yes my sim is 3G. This Tilt has never indicated "3G".
I went to Adv. Config under data connections and enabled everything.
What I'm trying to figure out, is this Tilt unable to detect "3G" or is it a missing icon thing.
IF
1. you have a 3g sim
2. Kaiser Tweak and Advanced config don't have 3g disabled
3. you don't have the "nodata.cab" installed
4. 3G data is turned on in the comm manager
5. HSDPA is turned on in /settings/connections/advanced network
6. All the proper info is set for your connection "media net"
and you still don't have 3g.
I would say at the very least do a hard reset or update your ROM.
Anything I'm missing?
Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!
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Don't know how to get screenshoot. On the top of the Today screen there's, from right to left, the task manager, the battery, the signal strength (just the little antenna and the bars) and the WiFi icon.
Where in Kaiser Tweak or Advanced Configuration Tool could disable 3G?
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Hehe, when u have wifi enabled the 3G icon changes to the wifi icon, just try to turn of wifi and see if the 3g,H,E or G icon will appear.
That's a thought Mikulec! Tomorrow at work I will try this. I'm home now & reception here is crap!
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Ok...more data...new questions
Where in Comm Manager can turn 3G on/off?
What does Medianet settings has to do with 3G?
Thanks for your answers ChumleyEX!
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do some research and you will find all the answers you seak.
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I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??
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I'm sorry ChumleyEX but that's not an answer...I dont have a data plan so MediaNet is, in my opinion, not an issue. Like I said before, that didn't keep my other (and less sophisticated cell) from detecting 3G coverage... anyway more data!!
I tried turnning off wifi to see if wifi icon becomes "3G", that doesn't work, the wifi icon gets an "X" over it & does not become "3G".
Yesterday I found out that if you try to make a video call the cell tells you if there's a 3G network available, so I tried this in my office & it answers no 3G network available.
Last night I started experimenting with flashing, I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro".
I flashed a couple of Hard SPLs & a couple of radios to try and it got me thinking, could the lack of "3G" be a radio or ROM issue??
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It definitely could be radio rom issue, but ... I am flashoholic, that means I flash almost every rom that comes out. And on most roms that I flashed the 3G icon changes after some time to the X, but after going to the internet via gprs the 3G appears once again. I dont know why is this happining, there was a disscusion about this, but I dont know in which thread.
The funny thing is although I have the X icon, I am in 3G area and I can make video calls and use the 3G cappabilities. So I dontknow why u can not.
" I knew this cell had been flashed before by someone else, for one this is an AT&T branded Tilt but the previous owner has using it on another carrier and when I access the bootloader among the information there was "Spl 1.0 Olipro"
So it's possible that the media net info is incorrect. Also, your simple phone that has the 3G show up is just that, a simple phone. This tilt isn't so simple.
if this link works, download the file and run it.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/attachment.php?attachmentid=70973&d=1203219889