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I've stuggled on with the unreliable ROM that my PDA2K came with because I have been unsuccessful at upgrading using my Mac and Virtual PC 7 (Windows XP).
I don't have access to a PC, and wondered whether anyone could give me any guidance.
Is it possible to upgrade the rom directly from the device itself, or are there ROM installers for other Blue Angel phones that would work via Virtual PC?
Any help very welcome - but please give as much detail as possible if telling me to install or change things manually. I've read posts about 'extended roms' and taking bits from here and there and I've no idea what this is about.
hello fellow mac user
What exactly is the problem?
ANy error messages? are you trying via BT or USB ?
HI,
When I tried to upgrade previously the PDA2K's screen showed USB but I got an error (sorry I cant remember the number code; radio upgrade error or something).
Recently, and I don't know what's changed, I just get Error 101: Connection Failure. When I try to run the upgrade the device does a soft reset at the beginning, then there is a long pause then I get the error. It seemed to manage more previously (may be that was an earlier from upgrade, but it never worked anyway!).
Have you been successful from your Mac?
Just looked back at my old posts on the howard forums, and discovered it was Error 114 I was getting previously (with the first ROM upgrade). I presume I'm getting the 101 connection error now that I'm trying to use the latest ROM upgrade.
One thing I'm about to try myself is to switch off both the windows and Mac OS X firewalls just in case they are interfering with the process.
Just to be more specific:
It comes up with the info from the phone and the upgrade, then I click next to start the upgrade; the device does a soft reset then repeatedly the device says it's connecting to host, the PC says reading info from device; then after a while I get error 101. As soon as the ROM upgrade installer quits, then Activesync reconnects the device (as guest).
Are the ERK files supposed to be run from the device? Will this help me? I've just downloaded one, and downloaded a thing called WinRAR but the resulting files say they aren't Win32 applications; and most of the contents of the folder are .rar files even after I extracted it. Wierd. Please can someone help!
Oh well, it's getting late here in the UK, I will just have to try again another time. Going to have to reinstall everything again now (as I have after every failed attempted at a ROM upgrade over the past few months). This is the last time I buy anything with a Microsoft operating system!!!!
Can anyone help?
Anyone?
Hi
Sorry but I don't think I am going to be much help.
I too am a Mac user with VPC and happily ActiveSync every day using VPC 7.01.
HOWEVER I would never try and use VPC to do something as basic as a ROM upgrade.
I managed to borrow a PC from someone at work and used that for the upgrade. I went on the basis that a ROM upgrade is so basic to the device and would likely need real PC hardware that I would not risk it.
Is there no colleagure, friend or workmate that can help you out?
Regards.
Robin
Hi,
Thanks for replying. I had bought Virtual PC because I just couldn't find any other way of getting a lot of the software onto the iMate. Having made this investment I hoped it would work with the ROM upgrade too.
I did manage to get use of a PC yesterday, but unfortunately it didn't work either. The PDA2K reset itself at the start, then after a delay the updater gave error 101 connection error, exactly the same as with Virtual PC.
Later, I managed to get someone really helpful at i-mate on the live support (and for once it didn't time out) and I went through a few things, including pressing power-reset-record (so that USB is displpayed) and trying from there. It still didn't work, I got Error 114 after the updater sat at 0% for several minutes.
This leads me to the exact reason I didn't want to have to rely on someone elses PC: having access to it for a limited time I tried repeatedly the ROM upgrade yesterday with no success. Later, at home, I got help from iMate and some ideas that will be trying again with a PC, but now I've got to wait for another opportunity to use a PC. What concerns me, is if I ever get a major problem the phone may be unusable until I next get access to a PC. Worse still - if the phone locks up when I'm using the PC and I don't have the time/knowledge to resolve it, I could end up with a non-functioning phone. It's much easier to tinker with these things in the comfort of my own home when time is less of an issue.
I just received my K700i yesterday. I decided enough was enough. I'm going to sell the PDA2K as soon as I've got the ROM sorted out. I really did try to get on with this device but it's caused me more grief than I have ever had with an electronic device before. I learned a lot, setting up GPRS, wifi, bluetooth, found all sorts of useful software, used VNC to control my Mac remotely etc etc, but at the end of the day I just couldn't rely on it. Some days I could get email, some days I couldn't. Some days people would receive the SMS I sent, some days they didn't. Sometimes the people I was calling could hear me, sometimes they couldn't. Sometimes the phone would stay switched off, sometimes it turned itself on and drained the battery. The list of problems I had with this phone were endless. Hence why I was trying to get the ROM upgraded.
I understand your concenr and problem.
I actually have the latest ROM installed on mine and I STILL get someof the problems you describe.
Only Microsoft could get away with writing such a crap operating system to run a phone.
And i-mates issues just compund the Windows issues.
Good luck.
Robin
ive never bothered even trying to run activesync thru vpc. It was a bit hit and miss on my XDA1 so as soon as my xda2i arrived i just bought missing sync from mark space. Hassle free syncing and installing, plus the ppc gets mounted like a mass storage device too.
Trouble is I use Outlook at work and need to sync it to my PDA.
I cannot even use Entourage as we are a) running to old a version of Outlook server and b) Missing Sync will not sync with Entourage.
I am stuffed both ways.
Robin
Me again!
Just thought I'd let everyone know that I did indeed succeed first time on a PC today (having pressed power-reset-record to go into bootloader mode first).
So, as everyone told me, it was necessary to use a PC, and Virtual PC on a Mac just wont work.
I'm getting on ok with my K700i, although the email seems a bit limiting (doesn't seem to have message titles displayed, and a short limit to the length of the email).
My plan: use the K700i for a few weeks and see how I get on, then perhaps I might try the newly upgraded PDA2K for a few weeks, and see which I prefer.
The other complicating factor is that the SIM free Treo 650 has just become available, but I'm going to hold fire on that for now. Perhaps if I'm not happy with either the K700i or the upgraded PDA2K then I might consider it...
Hey everyone, i just was getting ready to update to the new core rom (from xplore 1.1) and i plugged in my Tmobile mda into my pc that is running xp, and it is not connecting. When i plug it in it like doesnt even try to find it. And when it does try to find it, it just says it can't establish connection with your item.
I was using xplore and this is the first time i had this problem ever. Ive flashed 4 or 5 times and this has never happened, and thats why im posting it in the wm6 forum.
Does anyone have any ideas? HAs this happened to anyone else?
Now i am back on the newest tmobile update, and it is still doing it. Also i installed the newest version of active sync. Still no go. Also i used shell tools to put xplore on my phone, could that have left out some active sync's files? (probably not, last time i put nottosmarts rom on here everything worked perfect.
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.26.10.2
love you
umm....no one?
can't someone at least flame me or something? im still stuck
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umm....no one?
can't someone at least flame me or something? im still stuck
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I can flame you , lol
If you can't connect, how did you flashed the latest TMobile ? I am not making fun, I really want to help.
i threw it in bootloader mode. It said usb in the bottom right hand corner. It's just that activve sync is not connecting with it. i wouldnt even care, but i think you need an active connection to active sync when you flash with shell tools, which is what i do.
update: i just succesfully sync'd to my laptop running windows vista.
anichillus, do you know if shell tools will work with the new way to flash with vista?
thank you so much for reponding, i really appreciate it...a lot lol
the only reason im doing this is to get to your rom!
jawnsixteen said:
i threw it in bootloader mode. It said usb in the bottom right hand corner. It's just that activve sync is not connecting with it. i wouldnt even care, but i think you need an active connection to active sync when you flash with shell tools, which is what i do.
update: i just succesfully sync'd to my laptop running windows vista.
anichillus, do you know if shell tools will work with the new way to flash with vista?
thank you so much for reponding, i really appreciate it...a lot lol
the only reason im doing this is to get to your rom!
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I really really don't know that sorry ... I am using WinXP and not shelltool.
Also, why are you using Shell Tool ? Dont't you have G3 ?
Unlock it and easy as pie. I remember papamopps saying that it is possible to flash in vista ...but i don't remember anything about shell tool ...
BTW, you have ZoneAlarm ..or similar installed to the PC where you say that it doesn't connect ? Try and disable firewall ... antivirus ..stuff like that.
well i just don't want to void my warranty, but ill definitly try turning off all the firewalls tommorow when i get a chance, i think im just going to give it a go with shell tools right now and hope for the best
Thank you so much and if you ever need anything i would love to help you in return.
you're the best!
i have the same problem..active sync doesn´t find my wizard..but it´s charging normally, but active sync doesn´t recognize it or i don´t know..what should i do?? i didn´t do any change on my pc..and before it works good..
If you're using Microsoft's OneCare then you may have to enable the Allow ActiveSync to get it to work.
Start OneCare then click the "Change OneCare settings" link on the left
Click the Firewall tab
Click the Firewall connection tool button
Place a check in the ActiveSync/Windows Mobile Device Center" checkbox
Click Okay back to the main page
Hope this helps, but like Anichillus said, it could be any other firewall application blocking it...
yes! all i had to do was turn of norton for a bit and it instantly recognized my device. I was just so confused because this has never happened before and thats why i haven't thought of such an easy explanation. Thank you both for giving me your clear thoughts! lol
Another resolution idea
I had the same issue - I would plug the device in through USB into Vista Ultimate with no results other than the bing bong noise it makes on connection. Checking the device list showed the network pieces being added, but not the actual Wizard itself in the Mobile Devices section. I could not sync, it would not pair, etc, etc.
Resolution (on the Wizard):
1) Settings->Connections->USB to PC
2) Turn off "Enable advanced network functionality"
This of course will not be the resolution for everyone, but in case someone else sees this behavior, here is a list of the symptoms I saw:
1) Plugging Wizard in via USB causes Bing Bong noise
2) wmdc shows no connection
3) device manager shows no Mobile Devices section when connected
4) device manager network adapters may show mobile device services when plugged in
5) If connected in bootloader mode the device manager will show the mobile device
6) You can set up a bluetooth connection (if available on the PC) and sync properly with it
Cheers,
Shoogi
Shoogi, what an awesome first post! Worked perfect for me! Keep it up, great post and lots of help!
i have a problem that when I plug my device active sync connect it and charging starts but after a minute or so active sync disconnected and charging also stoped.
I have installed everything official > rom,radio,ipl/spl etc.
One Care made activesync almost unusable for me. I also had to reflash from THT's rom because I couldn't connect at all unless I hard reset. Makes no sense cause my husband can sync and he had the identical same rom.
I decided to reflash my wizard after it continually getting slower and slower after a year. I haven't done it in awhile. It is already unlocked. I flashed the 1.05 rom and it was working. I was going to go up in steps ending with the touch rom. I flashed the wrong rom evidently and now am downgraded to 1.01 on spl/ipl and os 2.26.10.2. The wizard won't activate Activesync and I can't get any communication. I tried rebooting the pc and the wizard multiple times. Still nothing. Need something quick to fix this. Everytime I tried to launch a rom flash I get an error 206.
digitalmayhem said:
I decided to reflash my wizard after it continually getting slower and slower after a year. I haven't done it in awhile. It is already unlocked. I flashed the 1.05 rom and it was working. I was going to go up in steps ending with the touch rom. I flashed the wrong rom evidently and now am downgraded to 1.01 on spl/ipl and os 2.26.10.2. The wizard won't activate Activesync and I can't get any communication. I tried rebooting the pc and the wizard multiple times. Still nothing. Need something quick to fix this. Everytime I tried to launch a rom flash I get an error 206.
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If it was already CID unlocked,there was no need to downgrade again 1.05,once CID unlocked will remain unlocked forever,unless you intentionally don't flash back the locking code back on to it.
Now try to get into Bootloaders (multicolor screen) hook up the phone with pc via usb cable and check small usb appear at the bottom of the bootloaders,if it appears then download the official stock rom and flash to recover back to the default status,then download the WST 4.2.2 tool and run the 'CID Action' button to verify the CID lock/unlock status of the phone.if its still CID unlocked then upgrade to any wm6 rom of your choice,otherwise perform the unlocking method again.If the usb doesn't appear,then you have a connectivity problem,check the usb cable or the mini usb port of the phone is faulty.Assuming you are doing on winXP.
"and check small usb appear at the bottom of the bootloaders..."
I don't understand what your talking about when you say bootloader. The bootloader is the ROM installation program is it not. How do you check an icon in that? If you mean system trays on the PC or PDA, no USB icon shows. I got no radio or sync services working. The OS is corrupted and operates extremely slow. I can't get any kind of communication between the PDA and PC. Not even through windows explorer (running XP). It's not the cable, I just used it to downgrade to 1.05 and it was working fine. It wasn't until I tried to upgrade to back up, and selected the wrong ROM off my USB storage, that it flashed the wrong ROM and caused all this. Mostly because I hate trying to remember what the longs string of digits mean on each ROM. Especially after I haven't looked at all the files and haven't done a flash in a year.
So no communication. That's the issue.
So does anyone else have any info? As I stated, I can't get any communication between the MDA and the PC. So I don't know how I can flash a stable ROM.
I repeat again,Get the phone in Bootloaders mode (multicolor screen) by pressing and keep holding down the camera button and at the same time either 'Soft Reset' or 'Power On' the phone,but keep holding down the camera button,till phone boots up in Bootloaders mode(multicolor screen),hook up the phone with pc via usb cable and check if small usb appears "At the bottom of the Bootloaders Screen" and not in the system tray of the pc. If it appears then follow the advise I gave you in my above post,but if doesn't appear then you have a connectivity problem.
digitalmayhem said:
"and check small usb appear at the bottom of the bootloaders..."
I don't understand what your talking about when you say bootloader.
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The Wiki as all the (basic) info to get you started.
It doesn't work
I can get into Bootloaders mode with usb at the bottom. BUT, I can't get any connection to ActiveSync, any of the ROM update utilities and no radio network connections. That was the specific thing I'm telling you. If the Desktop and the PDA won't talk to each other, what am I gonna do? It's not the cable either. The Wizard Tool will not pick it up either when I used it to try to get device info. If your going suggest any kind of ROM or software off the forum, please specify exact version and title so I don't have to go through 100+ pages doing a search to find a specific piece of software off a vague title such as "stock ROM". You may know what it means because your always on the forum. When someone hasn't been back here in awhile they aren't going to remember some arbitrary string of numbers and letters indicating a certain ROM that they haven't used for a year. Too many of you "regulars" get all pissy about things when someone asks a question. If someone keeps asking the same questions, it's because the forum is NOT laid out in an easily searchable fashion unless you have specific search criteria for things such as CUSTOM_RUU_Wizard_1050412_WWE_10111210_WWE instead of "stock ROM".
Have you read the Wiki?
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Wizard Windows Mobile 6 for newbies
Or other posts?
You'd know by now that in bootloader mode ActiveSync or any other tool (that uses ActiveSync) can't communicate with the phone but that it's possible to upgrade a ROM using the official upgrade utilities.
Have you tried making a search and getting hundreds of undesired and repeated posts which makes you lose days searching for a specific thing?
If you'd been here as long as many of us you'd also be tired of people asking same questions. I was once a fresh member and i would always 'waste' my time than others'.
Also the forum search feature has been enhanced by using Google's search engine instead of internal.
There is simply no way I can express my deep and sincere gratitude for the information available in this forum. Let me explain and I think you may understand why.
Several days ago my wife and I received a couple of HTC 8125's from Ebay. Being a tinkerer I wanted to see what I could do so I upgraded mine to Mobile 6 with Touch-Flo.
The wife was skeptical and waited to see how it worked out. Of course she eventually decided to go for the Bling and handed me hers to upgrade as well.
As soon as the upgrade started on hers the pda went bootscreen and locked up. Sooooo I'm sweating bullets and searching the forums as fast as I can go before she finds out. Then I find this thread and the last post... Don't need Activesync to update as long as the device pops up a little usb on the screen when you plug up... I flashed the 8125 upgrade and *Bang*! Back in business. Continued the upgrade and all is well. The wife is now walking around with her "Bling" and happy and I am off the hook!
Thanks for the GREAT FORUM!
Rowdyone said:
There is simply no way I can express my deep and sincere gratitude for the information available in this forum. Let me explain and I think you may understand why.
Several days ago my wife and I received a couple of HTC 8125's from Ebay. Being a tinkerer I wanted to see what I could do so I upgraded mine to Mobile 6 with Touch-Flo.
The wife was skeptical and waited to see how it worked out. Of course she eventually decided to go for the Bling and handed me hers to upgrade as well.
As soon as the upgrade started on hers the pda went bootscreen and locked up. Sooooo I'm sweating bullets and searching the forums as fast as I can go before she finds out. Then I find this thread and the last post... Don't need Activesync to update as long as the device pops up a little usb on the screen when you plug up... I flashed the 8125 upgrade and *Bang*! Back in business. Continued the upgrade and all is well. The wife is now walking around with her "Bling" and happy and I am off the hook!
Thanks for the GREAT FORUM!
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Thankz !
We all highly appreciate it,glad you got it working .Thats what this Forum is sooo famous for "Help & Care"
Hi please help me , i'm stuck in boot loader mode trying to update my rom to windows 6.1 , i have vista on my computer .
I searched the forum but cant find any useful help.
I know lot many had this problem and have got sorted out , so please help me with clear instructions.
Thanks in advance,
shank
since you are using vista, it is very unlikely, that your device is actually stuck in bootloader mode, it was your pc, causing that error. because the device changes its identity, while upgrading, vista (and windows 7) seem to think, it is necessary to look for new drivers. maybe you saw the driver search in the bottom right corner of the task bar.
so, basicly you have 2 options to get your device back, either you get to a pc with xp and perform the upgrade properly, or you try the vista method.
for the xp way, have a look here:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade1_WM2003SE0
that is the first step in the tutorial on how to upgrade and i bet you didn't do that in your first attempt
for the vista way, refer to this page:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4_Vista
or if you want it in pictures, this:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blueangel_WM6_WizzardUpgrade4_Vista_Pic
i personally never got the vista way to work, not in vista home premium 32, nor in ultimate 64, and in windows 7 ultimate 64 it does not work for me neither.
the very best you can do in your situation is, try the vista method, and either it works, than proceed with the wizard i gave you as the xp link, or get to an xp computer and start with the wizard right away.
if your device really is stuck in bootloader (still unlikely), post back, and we try mtty
got the same problem but am working under windows 7 x64 so it willl be a serious issue
neverdmind fixed worked on my laptop with xp
I am still stuck
Can do nothing. Have this message on the screen and even then I try to connect it to my Vista there is no connection.
Is it that ****ty or something can be done
welcome to the forum!
your problem starts with v and ends with a (like so many evil things do): vista. ok, that was off, sorry, let's get to the facts now:
this is probably what you have experienced during the unlucky attempt to upgrade your device:
you start upgrading, everything looks fine, your pc's RUU (the rom upgrade utility, what you used to start the upgrade) is working fine, your device's screen said usb and v2.0X and then "upgrading" but then at some point, your pc said, "wait a minute, this is not the device i am used to, i cannot charge or sync it, and it also does not respond with the usual name!" so, vista is as 'smart' as trying to get a new driver for the device, making the sounds of a usb device unplugging, and a new one plugging in, that's when your connection is lost, and that is bad, because the wizzard told you before, to "never unplug the device, unless the upgrade process is over". you see, what happened there?
vista's ability, to make driver installation easier for the user has become bad for you in this situation, as you were relying on, say, windows xp's stubbornness.
ok, you say, why would he tell me all that? i saw that happening!
yes, but now you know what caused the problem. now we get on to solving it.
there is a nice tutorial in the wiki, where you can find a driver for vista x86 and x64, that will behave like the xp driver used to, it will charge the device, sync it, and still be able to upgrade, you find the wiki entry -=here=-, and -=here=- again with screenshots.
when you arrived at successfully having installed the driver, so making the screen on connection change from serial to usb, without vista searching for new drivers, you arrived at the point, from where on you can continue, or better restart, flashing the rom you originally intended to.
but let me say, after breaking rule 1, when it comes to flashing, may i advice you to read a little more about the general topic in the link -=here=-, because i can guarantee you, that that was not the last mistake you made with the upgrading process, and since you probably don't want to start from scratch again in a few days, you should ask yourself these questions:
have i formatted the extrom?
have i resized the partitions to gain storage space?
do i have a proper RUU?
did i pick the right rom?
what about sim unlock?
what about radio rom update?
do i know how to reset a device with a higher os than wm2003?
if to either of these questions, your answer was not a clear "yes!!", but a "no" or even "what is he talking about?" you should definetely make a little research before starting over, because you are breaking hardware limitations here, doing things, htc originally intended trained service professionals to do, not home users, this is something that could break your device or at least cost you a lot of time to repair, when done wrong, so please read the links i gave you, it will save a lot of your nerves. here you are again, -=the most important link=-
and -=another link with a common misunderstanding cleared up=-
have fun reading, you won't regret it.
Hi All,
I've been running the Orange (UK) WM6.1 ROM for months/years without problems and was messing around with some texts and somewhere along the line I have ended up with the standard 4 stripes down the screen and some text top left.
I have scanned the forums here and the wiki and they suggest connecting using USB and running Mtty.exe, however whilst I can connect the phone using USB Activesync won't recognise it and then I get an error from Mtty.exe because it won't recognise the phone.
I have also tried re-intalling the Orange ROM as well as newer roms, but none of them seem to be able to connect to the phone.
Active sync doesn't seem to be able to connect on Win 7 or Win XP despite them syncing fine this morning.
So, any suggestions out there?
I'll do some more searching, but any pointers would be appreciated.
Thanks.
Try a new USB cable, I went through 5 in one year, or try flashing via SD card.
Well I tried a couple of different leads and no luck.
I did manage to get some info from mtty.exe, but didn't make sense.
I took my SIM out to use in another phone and having left the battery out for a while, put it back in to try again at getting it to start and it booted fine without any problems.
After a bit of messing around it seems like that the boot problem is either down to a problem with the SD card, SIM or a foreign object in phones casing.
I keep the phone in a pocket of my overals that I use a workshop and occasionally iron filings from a grinder can get into it's working, which is what I think has happened.
ANyway, it's back and working again, only need to keep it going until Orange can get some Desire HDs in
Hi!
Read those threads again,the solution is there.
1.Disable USB connections in Activesync menu (right click on green icon on the tray)-->connection settings-->untick "Allow USB connections"
2.Put your device in bootloader mode (yours is in it)
3.Start to connect it with MTTY to do what you want or just run an official Orange UK ROM update
If everything is fine,your device will be alive again.
After that install Hard-SPL to avoid problems like this.
BR
Scootie
P.S.:Sorry,I didn't read post #3,but it can be useful later.
One more tip:check the camera button.
Thanks Scootie,
I'll try the Hard-SPL thing - the jumping into boot loader seems pretty random, has happened a couple more times and I find I have to pull the battery for several minutes and then try a restart.
The camera button doesn't seem to do much other than what it is supposed to.
Pretty annoying since I have had the phone for 3 years, but have not had signal at home so hardly use it, and now we have signal due to Orange/T-Mobile merger from the beginning of the month the phone fails me :-(