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Installed Touch Keyboard & Keypad. Help w/ 2 minor issues please!!

Okay ladies and gents, I have searched and searched and can't seem to find my answer. I am sure one of you smart lads can give me a response in 4 seconds.
The keyboard and keypad work great on my Tilt but I have two issues:
1) I've noticed the screen shots include a tool bar above the keyboard with options for BOLD, UNDERLINED text, ect. I do not have that. What can I do?
2) My xt9 works fine but if I want to create a new text msg, the drop box of contacts no longer appears. This is quite hard to explain but before xt9, if I inputted the letter "J," a drop box of about 7-8 contacts will show up to with names starting with J; sort of like a quick list. The more letters I inputted, the more specific of results the drop box displays. Even if I am in ABC mode, this feature is no more. Would I have to kill Xt9 via registry to revive this feature?
Thanks in advance.

richabi said:
2) My xt9 works fine but if I want to create a new text msg, the drop box of contacts no longer appears. This is quite hard to explain but before xt9, if I inputted the letter "J," a drop box of about 7-8 contacts will show up to with names starting with J; sort of like a quick list. The more letters I inputted, the more specific of results the drop box displays. Even if I am in ABC mode, this feature is no more. Would I have to kill Xt9 via registry to revive this feature?
Thanks in advance.
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I too have this similar issue
I am unable to type anything in the to: field cause of Xt9
but after uninstalling of the touch keyboard it works again

yeah, I figured it is software conflict with xt9 - you can have one or the other kinda thing. I think I rather have the xT9 than the quick list. I will just have to press one extra key (return) for every contact included.

corleno said:
I too have this similar issue
I am unable to type anything in the to: field cause of Xt9
but after uninstalling of the touch keyboard it works again
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Try using the diamond keyboard, it solve the problem.

pmtan666 said:
Try using the diamond keyboard, it solve the problem.
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thanks that did the trick !!!
the only annoying feature
NO SPACE after clicking a predicted word !! grrrr
anyway to overcome that ?

Word Completion does not work!

Hi there, i use the block recognizer a lot to compose SMS messages and on my old touch the word completion feature worked like a charm. However, no matter what settings i use on the diamond (e.g. suggest 3 words after 1 letter etc.etc.) this feature doesn't come up!!
Does anyone have the same issue, and any fixes for it?
I got the HTC touch on the first day it came out and haven't had any problems with it whatsoever. My diamond has been full of issues since day one!

Maybe stupid...
Did you check in the settings if word completion is active?

Yes, the option is definately switched on....but no luck in actually completing any of my words!!

I have the same problem with my Spanish ROM using the "standard / classical" keyboard
Help, please!

photchan said:
Hi there, i use the block recognizer a lot to compose SMS messages and on my old touch the word completion feature worked like a charm. However, no matter what settings i use on the diamond (e.g. suggest 3 words after 1 letter etc.etc.) this feature doesn't come up!!
Does anyone have the same issue, and any fixes for it?
I got the HTC touch on the first day it came out and haven't had any problems with it whatsoever. My diamond has been full of issues since day one!
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You are correct. I complained about this in an earlier thread. I am using the latest ROM and it does not work.......

Doesn't work for me either!

Doesnt work for me either. On my Tytn I choose to create a new message and when I start to type the contacts name for the To field it lists the contacts for that letter so I can select the correct one. Then for the message it will suggest words as I type, this is exactly what I want on my Diamond. I dont use T9. The nearest I can get on the Diamond is if I have "Word completion in ABC mode" ticked in the T9 Settings box then word suggestion works but it doesnt suggest contacts for the To field when creating a new message, instead it suggests words. This is not how I want it

Same problem....
I have the same problem, but only when I use the Block recognizer, using the keyboard works fine, but I'd rather use the block r... so when I need to list the contact I place the names and when I press send the phone give me the choice to select the right contact...

you need to disable xt9, then autocomplete will work again
Use something like KaiserTweak or Boinger's diamond config to change

Hi there, I try to create a cab file which can enable the word completion function for MSFT IME ( Block Recognizer / Keyboard / Letter Recognizer ).
Have fun~
http://rapidshare.com/files/133542391/Add_MS_Qwerty_Keyboard_WC.cab.html

I'm new to this level of use - I have had Win Mobile for years, but only yesterday did my first ROM update! How do I disable T9? I'm desperate for word completion on block recogniser (the only way to input!)

SOLVED
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.

beemerTPPC said:
IMPORTANT: previously be sure that HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\XT9SupportMSSip has a value of 0.
Simply change these two registry keys under:
HKLM\system\currentcontrolset\control\layouts\e 0010409
Ime File : \windows\xt9ime.dll change to Ime File :\windows\compime.dll
and
Layout Text : XT9 IME change to Layout Text : COMP IME
And soft reset.
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It Worked!!!! ur a genius thx a million bro

Thank you for this - it worked beautifully!

Thanks to you, it worked like a charm

Nope it does not work perfectly. After that change, word completion only works for letter recogniser, but it does not work for the phone keyboard, compact qwerty, anything that uses the phone keypad.

The HTC keyboards all use T9 word completion, this thread was for the MS keyboards/input methods.

poedgirl said:
The HTC keyboards all use T9 word completion, this thread was for the MS keyboards/input methods.
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Do you know maybe a solution to have word completion in ABC mode also for HTC keyboards?!?!
Thnx
Urosh

I tried it... It is working perfectly good!!! Thank you very very much.

Changed my registry settings as suggested on my HTC Diamond and it worked perfectly fine. Thanx a lot. I really missed this.

Can you "draw" letters on the Diamond?

Anyone know if that works? Or do we simply have the on-screen-qwerty-keyboard?

Click on the Keboard button so you get a list of QWERTY etc. Pick other input methods . You will find what you need in here . eg Block Recogniser , transcriber etc

What I'm asking for is:
Can I use the pencil and "draw" letters that then become words like I can on SonyEricsson P1i

Yes, Transcriber and Black/Letter recogniser do just that.

Is that a program you need to install or is it included in the box? I can't get it to work...

What do you mean you can't get it work? Because by asking whether is included or not I suppose you haven't found where it is.
Well, try writing a text message. Click on the small arrow on the bottom of the screen right next to the keyboard icon. It should pop up a window mentioning the different keyboards the diamond has (phone keyboard, compact qwerty, full qwerty etc..) At the bottom of this list there is another arrow pointing right called other input methods. Click on it and then you get a new scroll down list with the options that were mentioned before: transcriber, block recognizer, letter recognizer etc. Choose letter recognizer for example and go back to the screen where you are supposed to type the text message and you will see at the bottom of the screen the area where you are supposed to "draw" the letters.
Furthmore, read the manual...
I think this is quite detailed

CarpeNoctum:
Thank you, thank you, thank you
I will try that once I get back from work and have my Diamond in my hands again

Xophile said:
CarpeNoctum:
Thank you, thank you, thank you
I will try that once I get back from work and have my Diamond in my hands again
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Just a heads up...
The transcriber in the Diamond, isn't as good as the one in the SE P series.
I was a bit disappointed. (I am used to the P series.. )
Another option would be - in HTC Diamond - to use Letter Recogniser.
Yeah, you can't write just anywhere on the screen with that (you have a line at the bottom, where you may DRAW - as you say - your letters and have them displayed..)
Personal view.. Letter Recogniser works better than the transcriber.
All the best

Is it possible to recognize a handritten note later after writing it. I mean i have old notes from an older device with handwritten letters. Is there a way I can make my diamond recognize them as letters ?

L o r d R a j said:
Just a heads up...
The transcriber in the Diamond, isn't as good as the one in the SE P series.
I was a bit disappointed. (I am used to the P series.. )
Another option would be - in HTC Diamond - to use Letter Recogniser.
Yeah, you can't write just anywhere on the screen with that (you have a line at the bottom, where you may DRAW - as you say - your letters and have them displayed..)
Personal view.. Letter Recogniser works better than the transcriber.
All the best
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True.. Actually the Letter Recognizer works quite well for me.

transcriber works over the whole screen, only the block recogniser has a line to draw under.

Hmm i have neither block recognizer or letter recognizer on my danish 1.37. Is there some reg stuff to do to enable it? (and yes, i have looked the right places, only have the 3 htc keyboards and the standard ms full keyboard)

Epedemic said:
Hmm i have neither block recognizer or letter recognizer on my danish 1.37. Is there some reg stuff to do to enable it? (and yes, i have looked the right places, only have the 3 htc keyboards and the standard ms full keyboard)
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Same here

It should be simple enough for soemone clever enough to make up a cab file for Transcriber.
For example Bepe has taken it out of his ROM so I suspect could easily repackage it as an optional cab for anyone to use.
Just a thought.

I don't have any recognition neither... I can just type, not draw letters to be recognized

Also missing in my Danish Rom

Also missing in my Dutch rom.

Rod65 said:
Is it possible to recognize a handritten note later after writing it. I mean i have old notes from an older device with handwritten letters. Is there a way I can make my diamond recognize them as letters ?
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No, you need a program like phatpad to do that.
http://www.phatware.com
Also while you're there, look at Calligrapher 8.6

no luck here either
Also missing on the Swedish 1.37 original rom. These kind of small missing things pisses me off, looking around in the menues for hours with no luck, but I am sure there will be some fix for it somehow.

Any news on this? Also from Sweden here and no transcriber...

Transcriber not working

My Ignito has transcriber and letter recognizer in the alternative input menu.
The intro screen comes up when I select transcriber but, when I try to write on the screen in word or notes etc it just selects areas of screen and doesn't write under the stylus. I can select options like capitals numbers etc in the toolbar, it just doesn't write.
Letter recognizer works OK, anyone have a solution or the same problem?
Thanks
Kim
EDIT: SOLVED, Once more a thorough search is my friend, I have Answerkeys Disabler installed, not compatible with Transcriber, I prefer Answerkeys Disabler

What about handwriting recognition?

The X1 manual talks about handwriting recognition but I can't seem to make it work. There's a dearth of info on this feature in the manual. Coming from a P990i I expect that when I'm in an input field and tap the screen with my stylus I should get the cursor and the < on the right so I can scribble but no. Is it wishful thinking or do I need to learn new tricks?

You need to learn slightly new tricks.
When in an input mode you should have a keyboard icon with an arrow. Click on the arrow and change the method to Letter Recognizer.
You now have three boxes along the bottom. Capitals go in the first, lowercase in the second, third does numbers. Very similar to the P990i with Above, Below and On the arrow.
Some letters will be different but you'll learn them after time.
There are two offer method, transcriber which allows you to write full words on the screen, but I find this is harder as you make errors half way through and then have to delete complete words.
Or Block Recognizer which is similar to the first method, but the letter inputs were more different to the old UIQ phones.

Do you have a Swedish ROM? In that case you don't have letter recognizer installed by default! You can find it with a simple google search!

Thanks artesea.
artesea said:
You need to learn slightly new tricks.
When in an input mode you should have a keyboard icon with an arrow. Click on the arrow and change the method to Letter Recognizer.
You now have three boxes along the bottom. Capitals go in the first, lowercase in the second, third does numbers. Very similar to the P990i with Above, Below and On the arrow.
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It does take some learning. Just tried it and it's quite good. I have to learn to use the spaces for the three modes. It was quite straight forward on the UIQ as the "scratching" went where you wanted to write. In time I'm sure I'll get the hang of it.

Can you please more specific? I can't able to work that..
Thank you!

jithsc said:
Can you please more specific? I can't able to work that..
Thank you!
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Are you using a stock ROM? Most custom ROMs disable/remove Letter Recognizer by default