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Hi,
I have a very weird problem with my Tytn II, which I bought little over a week now.
People I was talking to complained they didn't hear me very good, the sound appeared to drop. It occured to me that it was happening when I used the speaker (handsfree) of the phone.
I did some testing, and this is what happens:
I (with the Tytn II) call person X, and when I and person X are talking together, person X cannot hear me, the sound on his side simply fades to nothing, until 1 of us keeps quiet. The same happens when for example sound from my car is picked up by the phone, thus resulting in the device not being usable in the car, since there's always some noise. I however on my side keep hearing person X, it's person X that doesn't hear me.
It happens with 2 sim cards, everyone I call, did a hard reset, HTC support doesn't know the problem...
I'm puzzled. Can anyone suggest anything? Or is it faulty?
Thanks
no, mine does the same thing. I got it a few days ago and when i used speaker while driving, i could hear the other person perfect, but they cant seem to hear me. It feels like half duplex. i hope this is fixable
Damn, it seems widespread then...?
Anyone who can test it?
maybe it has to do with whatever noise cancelling algorithm is in effect is mucking everything up
ziddey said:
maybe it has to do with whatever noise cancelling algorithm is in effect is mucking everything up
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Meaning that every single device would have this, and thus mine not being faulty?
I had the same problem but remembered that there was an automatic sound function which turns down the volume when talking is too hard and turns it up when to soft. Its called microphone agc and you can find it under system configuration. Now that it's turned off my dutch htc tytn II works fine in handsfree mode. Hoop this helps you also
downnootje said:
I had the same problem but remembered that there was an automatic sound function which turns down the volume when talking is too hard and turns it up when to soft. Its called microphone agc and you can find it under system configuration. Now that it's turned off my dutch htc tytn II works fine in handsfree mode. Hoop this helps you also
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It's already turned off :-( .
However, I just called with HTC, and they said it's because of the mic and the speaker being too close to each other, and thus it compensates.
They say every model has it however, they did a test today and the result was that it was a feature, not a bug...
Anyone here who does not have it on his device?
I have this problem all the time, both on speaker and just using the phone to my ear as normal.
People complain I am very quiet or that the sound is choppy and I sound like a robot
I used to have this problem on the O2 XDA IIs a few years ago.
Anyone else have it too? I'd like to know asap if this device is faulty, or if it's normal?
Sometimes, it seems that when I'm holding it to my ear, the sound seem to drop on the other side too...
I have exactly the same problem. People have trouble hearing me with loudspeaker switched on. Without speaker they can hear me perfectly.
I have the same problem too. Just try to disable the Microphone AGC thing and it fixes the problem. Thanks downnootje.
I have teh same problem , but I tried something and it is improved the Operation , try to minimize the Speaker volume to the minimum level and then it improes a little and it works for me ; not all the time but that is what we can do at the moment
I'm convinced now that it's a mojor problem.
Mine even got worse: since yesterday, it's happening without handsfree too, people can't almost hear me when I just hold it to my ear...
Is this a phone still, or can't it be used as such?
try enableing Microphone AGC thing, restart phone, and disable it
Me too. Juz got my set 2 days back. The other party hears my voice intermittently chop-off...
I have faced the similar problem on a particular China-made TV phone too. Tested two other units of the same model still the same. It seems to me the phone design issue, as after I changed to another model of China-made TV phone, the problem solved.
Sigh! Already got this expensive phone, think have to bear with this feature then if it is really cannot be resolved by new ROM.
same problem
i have the same problem...with my 8525 when I was on the train or in a similar noisy situation i never had any trouble with people hearing me on the other end...with the tilt i can't even carry on a conversation on the train...i called tech support and they told me to swap it out for a new one.
ziploker said:
try enableing Microphone AGC thing, restart phone, and disable it
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I've tried that and it doesn't help! Quite sad about it. I need to use speaker handsfree especially during driving.... Don't really like to hook-up the headset or BT headset... too messy for wired headset and too tedius (charging) for BT headset...
Now that I know its half duplex it works pretty well in the car - I just wait for the other person to stop talking
Surur
I will be sending mine to HTC for a planned hardware fix as they agreed there is a defect that affects all kaiser and tilts, but NOT the MDA VARIO III. this is a known issue and is hardware related. Good news for those who havent purchased one yet. I will sell mine on ebay if they dont asign me a RA soon. I rather have the MDA VARIO III as it has 2 cams.
(doesnt your HTC TYTN2 has 2 camera's?)
Same problem here. Hope for a sollution soon!
Will call HTC too soon, so theyll have more complaints about this defect.
I recently got a Jabra BT3030 for use as a HF and possibly music player. The only other choice in the shop was the SE DS200, so I thought meh the Jabra is a little cheaper and probably as good.
The HF works just fine: simple connection, buttons all work and people can hear me talking just fine. The only issue being the quirky music/volume after turning it off, but its no big deal.
What's wrong is the HORRIBLE, ABYSMAL, DOWNRIGHT UGLY sound output. There is a constant hissing in the background, its like a slightly offset radio station. I may not be an audiophile but every test/review I've read of this including user impressions say that the quality is "good", some even claim its "like wired earbuds". I dont call this good at all and its as far away from wired it can be.
However I've been unable to test it in another BT phone (wont work on my old SE K600i) as my main suspect is the phone, not the Jabra.
Unless of course, BT handsfree on the Diamond is meant to hiss? Or is the Jabra actually this bad quality? Anyone know that's used far more BT than me, as the Jabra is.. well, the only one?
I own a Anycom BH-100 and it shows constant hissing as soon as connected to any device (PC USB dongle, HTC Magician / Hermes / Diamond).
Good thing is, when the music plays it's nearly gone ( = can't hear it anymore).
Hm, I suppose it bluetooth really is that bad. It hisses when I try to connect to my HP portable too.
My BT-headset gives a rather friendly quality. No hissing whatsoever, but it does have a little second of lag very occasionally. Much better than my old Nokia 6300, in any case.
So you wanna tell us, that you don't experience any difference between your headset being switched totally off and being on but no actual music playing?
3030 user here.I'd described the hissing present but not so much bothering. Not that I have much BT HF experience before, used entry level Jabra BT135 with N6120c. There I'd say was little bit of less hissing.
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My BT-headset gives a rather friendly quality. No hissing whatsoever, but it does have a little second of lag very occasionally. Much better than my old Nokia 6300, in any case.
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Well lag/slight stuttering I would understand since it is wireless, but this is a constant background hiss independant of any lag.
Well f**k me sideways on a wheelbarrow!
The Diamond is not at fault at all. Its the Jabra that STINKS.
I tested a DS200 here at work at its got nothing of the hiss on the 3030. On the 3030, I clearly hear when its activated (*ELECTRONIC CLICK*hsssssssssss...) and likewise when it goes to sleep. On the Sony, I hear *nothing*. Its utterly silent. Well, aside from the music.
I'm getting this exchanged ASAP. And to think I was blaiming the Diamond
no problem with my diamond!. excellent quality both with my stereo headphones playing music or with car BT device. the connection is instantaneous and no background noises.
i must be lucky...lol. i have no lag with iGO8, my camera is taking good pictures and generally speaking i have nothing to complain about i am embarrassed...feeling left out
I thought I'd resurect my thread with an update... It appears that its NOT the Jabra at fault. I got it exchanged for a new one (the store didnt have a DS-200 at this time) and my conclusions stands at this:
- Listening closer to the Diamonds top speaker (like putting my ear to it, not good to do lol), it has the exact same type of noise. Its just that the volume of sound is so much greater its immiedietly drowned out. In other words, the Diamond behaves like this.
- Listening closer to the Diamonds package wire HF, it once again has the exact same type of noise, but here it is considerably lower and you really have to listen hard to it to hear: its not really noticable during playback even on lower volumes. So once again, this is how the Diamond sounds.
- The Jabra 3030 exaggerate the noise 10x, hence why its so annoying and with poor quality. Listening on low volume is drowned out by noise.
I got to see if I can try my buddies DS-200 again, listen closer this time... I'm starting to suspect that its a matter of how good the signal processing is on the Jabra, due to the Diamond sending out a noisy signal. If the DS-200 handle audio like the wired HF (same behaviour, much less noise), then its obviously "as good as it gets".
Sounds to me like there's something wrong with your Diamond, I can't hear any hissing through mine with the included (wired) headset or from the speaker on the device.
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Sounds to me like there's something wrong with your Diamond, I can't hear any hissing through mine with the included (wired) headset or from the speaker on the device.
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I suppose that's possible... But did you listen real close? I cant hear the noise from the speaker unless I stick my ear to it and the wired noise is very subtle, unnoticable during playback. Maybe I just got sensitive ears
I have tried the DS-200 again and got a background noise level that's much closer to the wired level, though a little notch higher. And its far, far lower than the Jabra. In particular, the electronic sound on turn on/off is not that noticable while the Jabra make my ear twitch.
murklor said:
I recently got a Jabra BT3030 for use as a HF and possibly music player. The only other choice in the shop was the SE DS200, so I thought meh the Jabra is a little cheaper and probably as good.
The HF works just fine: simple connection, buttons all work and people can hear me talking just fine. The only issue being the quirky music/volume after turning it off, but its no big deal.
What's wrong is the HORRIBLE, ABYSMAL, DOWNRIGHT UGLY sound output. There is a constant hissing in the background, its like a slightly offset radio station. I may not be an audiophile but every test/review I've read of this including user impressions say that the quality is "good", some even claim its "like wired earbuds". I dont call this good at all and its as far away from wired it can be.
However I've been unable to test it in another BT phone (wont work on my old SE K600i) as my main suspect is the phone, not the Jabra.
Unless of course, BT handsfree on the Diamond is meant to hiss? Or is the Jabra actually this bad quality? Anyone know that's used far more BT than me, as the Jabra is.. well, the only one?
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I have a Jabra BT3030 and it works just fine in fact its perfect... Are you using a stock rom by anychance... if so what version...? you may want to use a cooked rom with the latest O/S.. as this does solve alot of BT problems...!
I am using the latest official (1.93 I believe it is). I dont quite see how a cooked rom will change the bluetooth performance of the handsfree (as a sidenote, I have tested removing those two bluetooth variables in the registry that according to another site would vastly improve quality: it did absolutely nothing)... But granted, I may just try it tonight if I ever do figure out which one to use, lol.
ok, so I just noticed something really annoying. I just came back from my daily running and it was the first time I used the diamond with my stereo bluetooth philips headset for this instead of the ipod.
as soon as I started running and the diamond jumped up and down in my pocket the music started stuttering like crazy. like the old days when I had a cd player without shock memory
first I thought this had something to do with sensor lock running, but I uninstalled it and the problem is still there. I now tried to reproduce the stuttering when at home and it seems to be connected to the distance. when I hold the phone close to the bluetooth headset and start shaking the phone like crazy nothing happens. as soon as I move it down to my pockets it begins stuttering when I rapidly move the phone around.
I tried searching the forums but couldnt really find anything stutter related when it comes to motion. I'm not sure if this has something to do with the motion sensor or with my headphones weak bluetooth receiver...
any suggestions are welcome here, I'm a bit baffled by this whole thing.
greets,
4saken
Stuttering?
Sounds more likely to be your headphones. I use Motorola S9 bluetooth headphones and have no issue with the sound jumping, skipping or anything... unless I leave my Diamond in the house and walk down the garden! I'm not sure whether all Diamonds have the same bluetooth hardware. If some incarnations have different hardware, this might be the issue.
Can you 'borrow' a mates' headphones to see if you get the same result?
Perhaps one of the techno wizards here can let us know if there are any differences in the bluetooth hardware between various Diamond devices?
thanks for your answer. I'll try to find someone with another bluetooth headset.
I hope it's not hardware related. can you tell me what radio version and rom you got running? maybe there's a difference here.
sounds like its a problem with the bluetooth range, if you shake the phone when its near the headset it doesnt make trouble but when its more far away you get problems, so i would think it get out of transmission range.
no problem here with bluetooth on shaking
greets
what bluetooth headset do you have? the weird thing is, if I lay the phone flat on a table I can walk about 10 meters before I get any stuttering. why would shaking the phone reduce that range to about 1 meter?! that doesnt make any sense..
Lay your phone on the table walk around and shake yourself/headset and u will see it comes from ur headset.
Mine is plantronics dunno the specs can look tomorow as there is nothing on the headset.
greets
EDIT: if not i think the bloodtooth has a loose connection ?! But that shouldnt be on that onebrick device
It seems the NookColor's audio subsystem is pretty flakey. For one thing, I notice a big lag in audio and video when playing them (rockplayer, youtube and others). Also, from time to time, sound will just die on me totally and only way to get it back is to reboot the nook.
anyone else seeing this?
If the audio is dieing after the device goes to sleep, this appears to be a defect in certain batches. I had this problem (even after hard resets), but exchanging it out for another took care of it for me.
i'm able to get it back by re-starting the NC.. sucks... maybe i need exchange my NC... again... the 1st one had a bad microUSB port
Wordsmith9091 said:
If the audio is dieing after the device goes to sleep, this appears to be a defect in certain batches. I had this problem (even after hard resets), but exchanging it out for another took care of it for me.
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called tech support & they ack. that this is a problem.. thanks...
Doesn't seem to have enough output; the overall volume level seems to be very low. Everything else seems fine, so far.
crappy mono speaker will do that for you
So I love the phone. I have a TMO-US HTC One with baseband 4A.17.3250.14_10.39.1150.o4L with Android 4.3 (thanks Android Revolution). My problem has been haunting me for some time. Bluetooth Audio to my headphones is choppy:
-When I put the phone in my pocket it gets choppy and skips. Reading up on this I read somewhere that wifi may be the interference culprit. It's the same with or without the wifi on.
-So then I guessied it might be pocket. It certainly is worse in the pocket, but by shaking the phone I do get some chopiness, not as bad.
Could bluetooth have such a limited range that it gets choppy when I put it in my pocket?
Why does shaking the phone make the bluetooth cut out?
Any suggestions for fixes?
i have been having the same issue lately. Listening to audio books in the car though the bluetooth audio has become a real pain. Choppy, skips, and jumps. But as soon as i grab the phone and pull it closer to the radio it seems to smooth it self out. Now i dont know if thats just a coincidence or not.
That happens to me as well in my car. I noticed if I have data on and it's syncing the sound goes to crap.
Or at least I assume so. This only happened after upgrading to 4.3 last month.