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Has anyone tried taking a can of compressed air to the back of the Nexus One in order to try to clear dust away from the screen? I just want it off the center of the LCD screen, don't need to get it out as long as it's not that visible.
What about partially disassembling the phone (like taking out everything that doesn't require you to disconnect flex cables) and then blowing it with the air?
I managed to drop my phone a couple times and that seemed to have caused dust to get under the screen, but I don't want to take it apart completely until I've exhausted all other options. Returning it is also not an option in my geographic location.
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How would the air get into the screen from the back? Isn't it supposed to be sealed?
I wonder if you could move the dust under the screen with static electricity. Get one of those plastic rods like they use for demonstrations in chemistry class and charge it up. Then drag it across the screen over the dust. Just be careful not to discharge the rod onto the metal body of the phone...
Even if you did attempt this...
It would probably leave an unremovable sticky film. That's one of the reasons they tell you not to use it to blow off camera sensors, lenses, and CCDs (you're supposed to use a blower bulb). The compressed air isn't just pure clean air, it's got a bunch of bull**** in it. Not to mention it could quickfreeze the OLED parts and ruin the screen permanently. I would NOT try it. In fact, if you clean the back (battery, SD, SIM area) make sure you hold a piece of CLEAN 100% cotton (best if it's from a t-shirt) over the camera sensor or it will blow off the IR filter. Hope this helps.
I have done it twice. I posted pictures up on here on a different thread the first time around, which was probably 3 months ago. Send me a pm if you want the pictures. It wasn't horrible to do, but I don't know that I'd recommend it unless you're already experienced in these type of exercises. I didn't have any adverse side affects to the screen.
Here's the before and after.. I have pictures of the dis-assembly as well.
Oh yeah, I also found that a can of compressed air wasn't strong enough. I used an actual compressor set at 60-80ish psi I think.
@enisoc lol...
The teardowns online haven't said that there was anything sealing the screen and the front cover, but the cellphone shops here that I've asked have said that they would apply a sealant if I paid them to take the phone apart for me.
It looks like I can't get to the dust with anything short of a complete teardown :-(. I took the canned air to the back of the phone and it didn't do anything, but I also didn't disassemble the battery tray (no torx screwdriver).
@dhendrix11 if you took the phone apart, why did you still have to use a compressor? Couldn't you then just take something and wipe the dust off?
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@enisoc lol...
The teardowns online haven't said that there was anything sealing the screen and the front cover, but the cellphone shops here that I've asked have said that they would apply a sealant if I paid them to take the phone apart for me.
It looks like I can't get to the dust with anything short of a complete teardown :-(. I took the canned air to the back of the phone and it didn't do anything, but I also didn't disassemble the battery tray (no torx screwdriver).
@dhendrix11 if you took the phone apart, why did you still have to use a compressor? Couldn't you then just take something and wipe the dust off?
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I used a combination of compressed air and a microfiber cloth. I found that it was impossible to find an absolutely clean spot on the cloth, so it basically just put dust back on the phone. I mostly used the cloth to wipe off smudges when I accidentally touched the back side of the lens/touchpanel, and relied on the compressed air to remove the dust. Also, I didn't detach the lens from the phone frame, so it's hard to get into the corners (where most of the dust is) with a cloth.
The second time around I had a lot less dust and tried cleaning it without fully removing the LCD. If you take the phone apart, you'll understand why you might want to leave the LCD attached and simply lean it back from the lens. However, in the end, I didn't find that to be effective, so I took the LCD out both times. I've got a small amount of dust back in there again, but may 5-10% of what I had the first time, and I really haven't noticed it at all, even out in the bright sun, which was the environment that I typically found it most offensive.
As long as you have patience, it's certainly a do-able task. The main reason I did it myself is because it was early on before anyone was reporting confirmed success of getting HTC to fix the issue free of charge with an unlocked bootloader. I didn't want to chance getting billed for it so it was a nice little project instead. Now that many people have proven that HTC will honor hardware defects regardless of unlocked bootloader, I'd go the replacement route if there's not some other reason keeping you from it.
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I have pictures of the dis-assembly as well.
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Please could you post? Thanks
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Please could you post? Thanks
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Disassembly 1
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Full breakdown and then put back together
Hi dhendrix11 thanks for the pictures... I've saved everything on my pc.
Cheers
well, I ended up taking my phone apart too, using the iFixit guide and the Youtube video. Actually not as painful as I expected it to be, but for some reason I did not have a rubber microphone channel under the bottom mainboard, and I didn't have a screw at the top left of the top mainboard.
I also didn't take the screen out completely, just pulled it up a bit and used tweezers and a cloth to wipe everything off.
Now I have a like-new screen!
Hi all, since few days ago, I played around and bring my z3c to the pool, took some underwater photos and video, after that, part of the screen is not responsive anymore (about 1cm from the top of status bar) so I can't use the status bar or use the screen in that part, is there any possibility that my phone was broken ? should I go to the sony centre any get it fix or keep praying and waiting ?
You seem to have narrowed down what the issue was... this is why, even if it's water proof I never go diving with my phone... It's known for this to happen far too commonly.
The best thing you can do is throw it in a bag of rice and leave it but... it sounds like the damage is done. Sony most likely wont replace it because water getting inside is the cause of the user, not the phone.
Kind of sounds like a small amount of it went into the headphone port.
Open up the USB flap and check the white tag in there, if its color has changed water went in from that part. Since only the top doesn't work, sounds like just a few droplets went in.
Bag of rice it for sometime (few days to a week) and if the issue persists, Sony will charge you a fee to fix that unless they're really nice to you.
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Hi all, since few days ago, I played around and bring my z3c to the pool, took some underwater photos and video, after that, part of the screen is not responsive anymore (about 1cm from the top of status bar) so I can't use the status bar or use the screen in that part, is there any possibility that my phone was broken ? should I go to the sony centre any get it fix or keep praying and waiting ?
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is thr anything u did and not mention it here?
for example try to dry it or little bit pressure or sudden drop?
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Actually, I just realized the problem after coming back home, guess I'll wait few more days then come to the sony centre to get it fixed
now I'm living in a camp so can't find a rice bag or something similar also.
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You seem to have narrowed down what the issue was... this is why, even if it's water proof I never go diving with my phone... It's known for this to happen far too commonly.
The best thing you can do is throw it in a bag of rice and leave it but... it sounds like the damage is done. Sony most likely wont replace it because water getting inside is the cause of the user, not the phone.
Kind of sounds like a small amount of it went into the headphone port.
Open up the USB flap and check the white tag in there, if its color has changed water went in from that part. Since only the top doesn't work, sounds like just a few droplets went in.
Bag of rice it for sometime (few days to a week) and if the issue persists, Sony will charge you a fee to fix that unless they're really nice to you.
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btw, you said about the white tag in the usb flap but I couldn't found it, can you post some pic ? I want to check first if the water got inside my phone or not ? at first I thought it just normal after sinking the phone in water like my Z1 but now it became like this (
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btw, you said about the white tag in the usb flap but I couldn't found it, can you post some pic ? I want to check first if the water got inside my phone or not ? at first I thought it just normal after sinking the phone in water like my Z1 but now it became like this (
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Wrong side sorry, it's not the USB flap. It's the one under it, near the bottom of the phone. The Sim card flap.
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Wrong side sorry, it's not the USB flap. It's the one under it, near the bottom of the phone. The Sim card flap.
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I've checked, nothing strange.
btw, the non-responsive part is at the top side so that's why we couldn't see anything wrong with this flap.
Calvat said:
You seem to have narrowed down what the issue was... this is why, even if it's water proof I never go diving with my phone... It's known for this to happen far too commonly.
The best thing you can do is throw it in a bag of rice and leave it but... it sounds like the damage is done. Sony most likely wont replace it because water getting inside is the cause of the user, not the phone.
Kind of sounds like a small amount of it went into the headphone port.
Open up the USB flap and check the white tag in there, if its color has changed water went in from that part. Since only the top doesn't work, sounds like just a few droplets went in.
Bag of rice it for sometime (few days to a week) and if the issue persists, Sony will charge you a fee to fix that unless they're really nice to you.
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update : phone was fixed, change the screen without any fee, I think they don't know if it is because of water or not (unless I tell them, lol)
Hello everyone
So a couple weeks ago I took a unexpected swim with my Nexus 6 in my pocket, and haven't gotten it to work since. When I got out I immediately took the phone out of my pocket and turned it off, only to have it boot back into fastboot a few seconds later, turn off, boot to fastboot, and turn of again. It did this several times till it just stayed off. I took it apart, dried it, and cleaned it in Isopropyl alcohol and tried to turn it on but got no response no matter what I did. :crying:
I would consider it fried except whenever I plug it into my charger, the charging icon comes up like normal and even does the battery filling up animation. I replaced the power/volume button strip inside the phone hoping that it was the only problem, but it still would't turn on. I haven't replaced the battery yet because the charging animation shows it's holding charge, but loosing 40ish% after a week and a half of sitting there.
So is there something else I can do, or is it fried? I'm probably going to get a new battery to see if that improves anything, but I honestly don't know what more to do. If anyone has any ideas, I'd love to hear them.
Thanks in advance!
It's fried. Best you can do is send to shop and see if they can salvage it.
Alright, I'll guess I'll have to do that. Thank you for your reply.
I would like to share photos of my phone and seee if anyone vcan help, my situation is kind of similar. I tried to charge after to days of silica drying and cleaning with IPA.
I thin the connection around the battery area isn't secure. Is there a glue that i could buy?
The only thing a shop may do, is give it a bath in a ultrasonic machine, and bake the board. Try a new battery, internal batteries never do well in WD.
oOflyeyesOo said:
The only thing a shop may do, is give it a bath in a ultrasonic machine, and bake the board. Try a new battery, internal batteries never do well in WD.
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How about sticking the charging coil to the new battery? What type of adhesive is needed?
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How about sticking the charging coil to the new battery? What type of adhesive is needed?
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You may still have enough adhesive left over on the coil to stick it to it. Otherwise it doesn't matter much, as long as its connected and not crazy loose, the frame will hold it in place.
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You may still have enough adhesive left over on the coil to stick it to it. Otherwise it doesn't matter much, as long as its connected and not crazy loose, the frame will hold it in place.
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I got it kind of working, but the sound is fuzzy and the screen is flickering a little.
I'm missing some screws, so I'll need to buy some new ones.
T3/M3 torx screws, 2mm/3mm height/diameter?
This morning I was cleaning my phone (getting rid of the finger prints/smudges) while standing up when it slipped out of my hand and hit the tiled floor. Everything is fine except the screen (which is cracked). Screen works fine but is unresponsive no matter where I press or touch the screen. How much does a Z3 Compact replacement screen cost? I searched around and it seems it is about $100?
Screen replacement costs in Poland +/- 135$
(authorised sony service)
Yes' it's hard to get original one cheaper than 100-120$. You can search for some Chinese replacement cause sometimes it looks quite similar to original one but You must check it before buying. Last time I had a client with Z1c replacement screen which he bought for 40$ and there was no white color, everything what should be white was purple.
Voids warranty, cheap replacement
Got mine from here replacebase dot co dot uk (can not post links ), of course you void your warranty if you do it yourself.
Parts are good quality till now. I advice to order a back glass too, I broke mine when taking it out and had to reorder again (costs approx 6 pound).
Next time just heat up back glass with hair dryer and You wont break it.
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Next time just heat up back glass with hair dryer and You wont break it.
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Thanks for the input
The problem was a small crack which did not matter until you have to remove it, you can not pull on it when its cracked. Anyway I will use a hair dryer to put it back together (assemble, heat up, press with books).
Thanks for the replies.
I'll be getting the repair done from the official Sony shop/distributor I bought the phone from. Just wanted to get an idea of how much it "should" cost before I approach them.
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Thanks for the input
The problem was a small crack which did not matter until you have to remove it, you can not pull on it when its cracked. Anyway I will use a hair dryer to put it back together (assemble, heat up, press with books).
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I have tried to change my backglass 3 times but after a few hours the glass falls off... (Yes, I cleaned the phone removing all the old adhesive - and yes, I had pressure on it over night ) But all the instructions I have found on the internet never mentioned anything about putting the glass on, and HEATING it up, and the putting pressure on it... Where have you found that advice? You could imagine that heating up would ruin the adhesive/making it thinner and thereby not waterproof...? But on the other hand your succesrate probably beats mine...
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I have tried to change my backglass 3 times but after a few hours the glass falls off... (Yes, I cleaned the phone removing all the old adhesive - and yes, I had pressure on it over night ) But all the instructions I have found on the internet never mentioned anything about putting the glass on, and HEATING it up, and the putting pressure on it... Where have you found that advice? You could imagine that heating up would ruin the adhesive/making it thinner and thereby not waterproof...? But on the other hand your succesrate probably beats mine...
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I think it was a comment below the iFixit tutorial. But one big warning here, I did extra maximally stupid and put it to 'press' under my table (with books around it). The table was too heavy and cracked my front screen once again :crying:
+ The rear glass sits fixed and has not loosened.
- Don't put too much pressure or you destroy it yet again like stupid me
m4mbax said:
I think it was a comment below the iFixit tutorial. But one big warning here, I did extra maximally stupid and put it to 'press' under my table (with books around it). The table was too heavy and cracked my front screen once again :crying:
+ The rear glass sits fixed and has not loosened.
- Don't put too much pressure or you destroy it yet again like stupid me
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Doh!!! ? I have also read on Ifixit and can see there are different opinions about if it is nessesary to heat or not. But I think I will follow your advice and heat the new back before putting it under (less pressure) ?.
Another thing I read on Ifixit is that someone writes that you should put on an adhesive sticker - eventhough the new back comes with adhesive already on...? What is your advice on this?
Most pre-glued adhesive stickers on back are useless. Now everytime I change back in Xperia Z, Z1, Z2, Z3 and compacts I need to remove pre-glued sticker and change it to original one. Many times I had complaint on it from my clients saying that back glass came off. So it's better to order original back glass or just original adhesive.
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Doh!!! I have also read on Ifixit and can see there are different opinions about if it is nessesary to heat or not. But I think I will follow your advice and heat the new back before putting it under (less pressure) .
Another thing I read on Ifixit is that someone writes that you should put on an adhesive sticker - eventhough the new back comes with adhesive already on...? What is your advice on this?
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Mine came with the adhesive ON the screen, I used that one, I didn't have a separate one. Be extra careful when 'placing' the adhesive where it belongs because you can not remove it once place (okay maybe slightly). Its important that it fits on the first to first and a half try. More adhesive means thicker layer --> glass will stick out
Anyway, most of the stories you read online are partially BS, the phone will work even when the glass is a tiny bit loose or when the adhesive rotated and is a bit thicker in one place. In my eyes, when you dared to order, you are very much capable of assemble the parts.
In btw, ordered new glasses today, hope my two left hands fix it this time.
PS: A lesson I learned on a friends Galaxy S2, do NEVER EVER try to use force when something sticks or is not as loose as in a video. Google or ask another person maybe you just dont do the trick. A connector didnt want to come off so we used a lever to lift it, CLICK, the place where the lever levered broke the board... :silly:
Edit 1: I think its not necessary to HEAT it, it just has to be a lil bit warmer than in your pocket or when calculating heavily. 30s under a hairdryer will be more than enough i guess.
Forgot to update this thread. I received my fixed phone last week. They replaced the screen and even the "bumpers" around the phone for $98. They even delivered the phone to my home free of charge. Looks brand new, all the minor dings I had on the phone are gone.
On another note, I also bought my first iPhone. Got an Space Gray iPhone 6s 128 GB with the official/Apple leather case for the 6s. Got it last Thursday. Been playing around with it a lot and, overall, I love it. Deciding on whether to keep my Z3 Compact as a back-up phone or just sell it. But geez, does the iPhone 6s load games and other apps fast (thanks to its NVMe storage).
Hi, I have an almost 2 year old Moto G6 (just the G6, not Play or Plus). Had it in the same case that length of time. About a month ago, found it was hard to press the power button. I finally just took it out of the case, and in doing so, found the allegedly permanently sealed back cover was coming loose on the side with the power button as well as the bottom where the USB-C jack is. Looks like the adhesive is stretchy but no longer very tacky, and trying to manually press the back cover into place is futile as it won't stay and won't even go all the way in. The phone still works, and after removing it from the case, I now see the power button is fine. I assume it's out of warranty now, I think 1 year and I have no add-on protection plan on my T-Mobile bill. I seen videos of people removing the back cover with a heat gun and razor blade to replace the battery. On what I can see, doesn't look like my battery is bulging. Tempted to crazy glue where the cover is separating, but I doubt that would hold with the pressure that makes the cover pull out again once pushed down. I would think at this point I could carefully just manually remove the whole back cover by hand.My dexterity is awful on repairing small delicate things. Can a shop repair this fairly cheaply? Any advice? I'm in Ohio/USA. Thanks!
I took mine out of the case tonight to clean it and discovered I have exactly the same problem! My case is such that if I put the phone back in it, the case "snaps" together and hence keeps the phone together. Mine is probably two years old too, so I'm sure no fix is possible (but I'll keep my eye on this thread). I'll leave the case on and begin looking for a new phone.
I'm with Sprint so I'm anticipating the conversion to TMo, so I'd rather wait until that happens before I buy a new one.
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Hi, I have an almost 2 year old Moto G6 (just the G6, not Play or Plus). Had it in the same case that length of time. About a month ago, found it was hard to press the power button. I finally just took it out of the case, and in doing so, found the allegedly permanently sealed back cover was coming loose on the side with the power button as well as the bottom where the USB-C jack is. Looks like the adhesive is stretchy but no longer very tacky, and trying to manually press the back cover into place is futile as it won't stay and won't even go all the way in. The phone still works, and after removing it from the case, I now see the power button is fine. I assume it's out of warranty now, I think 1 year and I have no add-on protection plan on my T-Mobile bill. I seen videos of people removing the back cover with a heat gun and razor blade to replace the battery. On what I can see, doesn't look like my battery is bulging. Tempted to crazy glue where the cover is separating, but I doubt that would hold with the pressure that makes the cover pull out again once pushed down. I would think at this point I could carefully just manually remove the whole back cover by hand.My dexterity is awful on repairing small delicate things. Can a shop repair this fairly cheaply? Any advice? I'm in Ohio/USA. Thanks!
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You could try using a hair dryer to heat up the glue to make it stick together again.
You could try using a hair dryer to heat up the glue to make it stick together again.
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I thought maybe excessive heat and sweat from being in my pocket on hot days loosened it up.
Thanks for the replies FrogFan and Ragarianok. Sorry for the long delay. In the meantime, I got the back case half off, and indeed a swollen battery. I am going to order a new battery for $4 from Mobile Defenders in MI, battery image says Motorola on it, and they say authorized OEM. A nearby repair shop said they will put it in for $20. They said a decent battery should run $20+, but all those higher priced ones on ebay and Amazon are no-names.
Thanks for coming back, dannykewl. I wasted some time inquiring about a fix from Motorola and found out that their "fix" would cost more than the phone was worth. A local shop quoted a ridiculously high price to fix it, too, but they did say the problem could be caused by a swollen battery. I will check with other local shops to see what they'd charge to replace the battery and seal it back up.
Did you get yours fixed?
POP!
My phone separated today and it is a swollen battery. I suspected for about 2 months the battery was swelling because of pressure points showing up on the screen as bright circles. I was just going to buy a new phone as this was a cheap phone and 2 years old, but the battery did the hard work for me by separating the phone from it's back, so I decided to fix. I removed the battery, ordered replacement battery on ebay and will put back together myself for $12. The $4 batteries are out of stock. The phone has enough stickiness left to hold the backplate and phone together on it's own, and it'll be in the phone case so no worries. Might apply a little Elmers to the surround. From what I read online, and saw on Youtube, be careful with the back, it's actually a glass metal hybrid and not safety glass at that. It will shatter off the metal and into little tiny razors and knives. The screen artifacts disappeared when the back was removed, relieving pressure on the components mashing up against the screen from the inside.. No permanent damage. This new battery should tide me over long enough for the affordable 5g phones to come out. I don't buy pricey phones. Oh, fyi... this is a SUPER easy repair. Have faith and go for it.
I took mine to a local repair shop today and confirmed my problem was also a swelling battery. They will replace the battery for me for $75.
Oh, fyi... this is a SUPER easy repair. Have faith and go for it.
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I checked out a YouTube video on this topic and quickly confirmed that this repair is way over my head. I don't have the tools or the patience to change the battery in this phone.