Turning the Tilt into an effective MP3 player - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Alright, simply put: I want to use my Tilt to replace my old MP3 player.
I installed PocketPlayer and got an 8 gig MicroSD card. Filled the card about half-full with music, and plugged it in.
This is the weird thing. The first time I put it in, PocketPlayer recognizes all the files (1200 or so), and they play without issue.
The problem is, if I exit the program and try again later, only about 60 files are still in the library.
When I check the card with File Explorer, I only see those files. If I take the card out and open it on my PC, everything's still in there.
So my question is, why is it that my Tilt isn't able to keep all these files available to me?
Any suggestions or alternatives would be greatly appreciated.

i would try not to place all the files in 1 dir but put them in sub dirs if you dont already to see if it makes a difference
never had the issue myself but my lib is a tree struct with artist->album->tracks

hmm, I personally use media player so i have my db or artists/geners/albums etc
My card is 4gb with a boat load of songs on it, have you tried using a diffrent player to confirm its not pocket thats not causing the problem ?
do the files disapear from you another(total commander/etc) file explorer within windows mobile as well ?
um my 2c's

I have 1.4G of music on mine, in appropriate directories, and it's okay with Pocket Player.
However, I find that Pocket Player uses a lot of battery playing them. I don't know if it's because I have them in ogg format or what, but the Tilt gets quite warm when playing for a while and the battery drop is pretty high, although I haven't actually measured it yet. I should do that tomorrow.

I haven't had any problems w/ TCPMP & my 8 gb card. I have all my music in storage card\my music\'artist names', and all the playlist files saved in my music

the htc audio manager is good no problems when using it with 8gb card. but the repeat function doesnt work does anyone have the same problem???

I use Mortplayer (Freeware) which is better than any commercial app out there. I have lots of MP3's on my 8gb card and always reads my library. It can also display album art. It also has presets and extra Bass etc etc. Try it out.

Does your Tilt go boooom?

Okay, re-organizing the music into directories worked.
Now I'm faced with the problem of getting an effective way to listen to it.
I have a good set of headphones, but the USB-headphone adapter is another story.
I don't like the fact that the adapters make it so that the microphone doesn't work. What's the best solution for an adapter? Or should I just give up and go Bluetooth?

strollymonster said:
Okay, re-organizing the music into directories worked.
Now I'm faced with the problem of getting an effective way to listen to it.
I have a good set of headphones, but the USB-headphone adapter is another story.
I don't like the fact that the adapters make it so that the microphone doesn't work. What's the best solution for an adapter? Or should I just give up and go Bluetooth?
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I personally like the Motorola S9 bluetooth headset. It all depends on the style you like but they sound pretty good. For bluetooth, it also depends on how much you'll be listening to it between charges.

I use the Plantronics convertible headset. Without the earbud it you can listen or make calls like a standard bluetooth. With the earbud you get stereo sound. The fit is dependant on your ears, though. They give you several options, including isolating buds, but you have to find what fits your ear best. Sound is great, and the bud make stereo convenient. I keep the bud in my pocket, so it is always available.

I use the latest Pocketplayer without a proble and like that the new version supports bluetooth control button like next song and play/pause. I still use TCMP to play my videos and with those two you cant go worng.

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Kaiser and bluetooth / USB car stereos

Has anyone had experience of these?
I was looking at a blaupunkt hamburg car stereo and whilst I can always use USB or 3.5mm aux jack to connect with my kaiser, I would like, if possible, the full bluetooth experience - with the stereo playing music off my kaiser and handling calls as well. I know it will handle the calls part, but what about the music part?
I guess the Kaiser supports BT "headphones", but I wondered if it was possible for a car head unit to pull track listings via BT from a phone, select which track to play etc.
I would really like to be able to have TomTom on the kaiser screen and select what music I want via the car stereo's controls.
Is this possible via BT? I know this unit does that via USB, but I can't seem to work out if track selection is possible via BT. I spoke to some salesmen, but all they quoted at me was "It has Audio Streaming" - I looked that up, but all it said was you could skip track etc - I want to be able to browse playlists on the head unit as well as play, pause etc.
Does BT degrade the quality too much? Would I be better off using the USB port?
depends on if the car stereo supports Stereo over Bluetooth. Go to the bluetooth on your pda, click and hold on the paired stereo and if it gives you the option - you're good otherwise you may need to find another solution.
It's not just stereo over bluetooth (A2DP) I want, it's the ability to browse playlists via the bluetooth device
I don't know of any BT unit that supports playlist browsing -- as I understand it, the AVRCP profile that supports skip, rewind, etc. doesn't support playlists. AFAIK, there's no BT profile for that.
I have a JVC (BT1)unit that can control the music player and stream the music from the Kaiser ,browsing the songs is mot possible
OK, so hard wired it is then.
I am thinking now that maybe BT isn't so wise anyway, I have an active holder, so wires are not a problem really and wires don't cut out randomly or get interference.
Mind you, I just realised that for it to work over USB, the device has to present itself as a mass storage device, which I don't think pocketpc phones do, do they? You need activesync...
Does anyone know if it is possible to run an app on a pocketpc that makes it present itself as a standard usb mass storage device and not an activesync device?
my motorola a2dp bluetooth stereo headphones worked with my unit just fine - they had play/pause/next/prev/volume buttons that worked too - decent sound quality also
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OK, so hard wired it is then.
Mind you, I just realised that for it to work over USB, the device has to present itself as a mass storage device, which I don't think pocketpc phones do, do they? You need activesync...
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You don't necessarily need activesync for this, but you might try Softick Card Export or WM5torage (when someone gets it working on the Kaiser).
I tried the demo of Softick Card Export II and it works, there also appears to be one called WM5Storage on Modaco, but it won't let me download it, I think I need a subscription or something. What is the license on WM5Storage? Can someone send me a copy?
[Edit - heh, was writing this as you posted. So WM5Storage doesn't work on the Kaiser yet?]
This should provide the best possible audio quality - an error corrected usb link to the stereo and also the best functionality - the stereo can browse the phone so you can scroll through lists of your music on the stereo head unit whilst tomtom displays on the kaiser screen
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the stereo can browse the phone so you can scroll through lists of your music on the stereo head unit whilst tomtom displays on the kaiser screen
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One problem I see with this is that AFAIK, Card Export, when in use, prevents all other access to the card from your pda, therefore your maps on the card would not be accessible to TomTom while you are playing music via USB.
Surur
order of contacts displayed
Does anybody know how I can change the order contacts are displayed on the screen of the car? After I have sync the Kaiser with the BT car device all cantacts were sorted first name / last name. I do want to change that?
Any tip?
surur said:
One problem I see with this is that AFAIK, Card Export, when in use, prevents all other access to the card from your pda, therefore your maps on the card would not be accessible to TomTom while you are playing music via USB.
Surur
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You seem to be right on the money mate I got the stereo today, fitted it and got memory access violations when using tomtom and pulling tracks via USB
This is highly annoying, is it not technically possible to overcome this?
You could use smaller regional maps and store them in main memory?
Surur
Yeah, I could I suppose, but annoying - I paid for Western Europe and would like the whole thing on there all the time. You never know - you may go to a stag do, get drunk and wake up in France somewhere!
Persuing other angles at the mo - not got a word back from softick yet as to whether it is technically possible to access SD card via USB and phone at same time, and I have another thread exploring the possibility of an activesync to Mass Storage Device dongle.
We shall see.
I've got a Sony bluetooth unit and (MEX BT2500 or something) and use my Trinity for handsfree, TomTom and streaming music over Bluetooth - Kaiser turns up tomorrow but should be the same.
I use Coreplayer for music, it works great. You choose the music from the phone, but then you can skip tracks from the head unit. Sound quality is similar to using the aux port on the front - never had problems with interference or cutting out.
yeah, at the moment I just use the 3.5mm AUX input on the stereo and use pocket music.
I use "Double Launcher" to remap the internet explorer button - 1 press for tomtom, double press for pocket music - that way I can quickly switch between the two whilst driving by touch alone.
It's pretty good, but I would rather not have to take the map from the screen to select music, especially if you have a passenger who wants to browse available music. Plus the car head unit display is in big glowing letters which are easier to read at a distance. Also, it cuts down on a cable as the USB would cater for charge and audio.
Unfortunately the head unit only does audio for calls not audio streaming anyway, but I wasn't buying it for this as I figured bluetooth audio involved a lossy compression and so degraded quality - not an issue for phone calls but not the best for music, especially when it is already been through MP3 compression.
I got an answer from softick today, and it seems the limitation is imposed by their software. I have argued the case against the limitation, and they seem to be swaying towards giving something a go. Fingers crossed for a solution here.
HELP
Sorry to bring this back from the dead . .
But I am in the middle of purchasing a stereo for my car and want to be able to do a few things . .
1) More than anything i want to be able to stream my Iguidance or TomTom turn by turn directions over my stereo through bluetooth.
2) I want to be able to take calls while still having my directions being played. ( Ie. while driving and being told where to go, if I get a call it will silence the directions and the call will take over. )
3) I want to be able to switch from BT to CD or radio. So if say TomTom tells me, drive for 10 miles, I can switch to radio for a while so i can listen to music and then switch back after some time to get back on track with my directions. What would be even better is if it treated the directions just like a call and allowed me to listen to the radio or cds, and when TomTom decided to talk, it would mute or turn down the radio/cd and play TomTom over it for the moment of " In 2 miles, exit on the right ".
If this is not possible then it isn't really worth it to spend the extra $100 or so on a good headunit with bluetooth. please give me some info or ideas.
(On a side note, if I were to use a BT headset, and had tomtom running, would the commands for turn by turn directions be fed through my BT headset? And would I be able to take calls while still doing this? ) If yes, I may just end up getting a good BT headset and just a nice CD player because of cost.
anyone have any ideas?
please, someone? help me help me

syncing with winamp pmp issues

I'm not sure exactly what's causing this but, it seems that all the files get an extra . at the end. The result is that everytime I want to sync, it'll want to kill all the files and reupload everything.
Anyone else try doing this? I haven't experimented much yet because it took a really long time to transfer everything (almost 4gb), most of the files which were also transcoded, and I'd rather not do it again.
It could be a problem with either the htc audio player or the windows media player doing it?
I'd like to keep using winamp because I have a good system set up. Songs with a 0 rating don't get synced to anything. 1+ to my ipod. And 4+ to my phone.
is the winamp service still in beta? i tried it a while back and didnt get too deep. let me know your results when you get done messing around. I am looking for a good setup to stream my mp3s from my pc.
I must have been a bit vague. I wasn't trying to stream mp3s to my phone through winamp. I was trying to sync part of my media library to it.
oh, well i dont have this problem. files get copied fine.
BUT theyre copied to the device. is it possible to copy them to the storage card?

GSPlayer 2.28

For those who use GSPlayer 2.28. It's a great program for playing Streaming Radio over a WiFi connection. However, I got bit about the file associations. Don't use the associate the mp3 files. What happens is if you use mp3 files for ring tones (And hey who doesn't?) they will not play. The GSplayer takes precedence over mp3 files and will hang the ring function. Even to the point of not allowing ring passing over to blue tooth external device like a car stereo. I lost 2 days worth of calls from this. I'm posting this to tell others about this issue. Turning off the file association will bring every thing back to normal again.
OS: AX3L_OS_v3.1.2_LITE_fixed
HTC TomTom 6
VITO Navigator II 1.3 <-Best tool to test GPS hardware.
TimeBiller.v2.8
HTC Task_Manager_2_0_30740_1
4 Gig MiniSD

N1 as a music player?

How many of you use your N1 as a music player? I dropped my ipod at the gym and i think its slowly on its way out.
Would it be worth investing in a 32GB micro SD card for the phone and use it or just stick to ipod's?
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zok-star said:
How many of you use your N1 as a music player? I dropped my ipod at the gym and i think its slowly on its way out.
Would it be worth investing in a 32GB micro SD card for the phone and use it or just stick to ipod's?
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I use mine all the time. I have a 16gb. I think $130 for a 32gb is crazy. $30 for a 16gb is smart until prices drop.
I use a custom rom that ups the media volume and a new pair of Sony Headphones and this thing is rocking Pandora and my local library with ease.
I also have the trackball skip mod that skips to the next song by double tapping the trackball when the screen is off.... my sony headphones also have a track control.
I now use my N1 for everything. I take it with me to the gym or when I go out for a jog. I use it to stream internet radio or internally stored music through the bluetooth in my car (and gps).
On a recent road trip my wife wanted to watch a movie on hers so she connected to the cars bluetooth, mounted her N1 and watched the movie with surround sound on the road.
I have a 16gb card now but I think I'll be going to 32gb soon.
The N1 can replace pretty much everything in my opinion.
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I now use my N1 for everything. I take it with me to the gym or when I go out for a jog. I use it to stream internet radio or internally stored music through the bluetooth in my car (and gps).
On a recent road trip my wife wanted to watch a movie on hers so she connected to the cars bluetooth, mounted her N1 and watched the movie with surround sound on the road.
I have a 16gb card now but I think I'll be going to 32gb soon.
The N1 can replace pretty much everything in my opinion.
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haha thats pretty good!! How long does your battery usually last for? 1.5 days?
Im not totally sure. If I'm at work listening to it or playing with it I have the chance to toss it onto the charger alot. In my car I charge too.
The few times I've forgotten to charge it while at work I get to my car at the end of the day and there is anywhere from 60-75% battery left after listening to music for part/most of the day.
When it comes to video or the screen being on you're not going to last long, on any phone.
My work days are typically 8am-5pm with an hour lunch in there somewhere. The music isnt going constantly because I have work related stuff that I need to pause it for but I've been know to polish off three to four 1 hr+ long podcast a day on rare occasions, lol.
I use my N1 for music, too - I have it syncing with MediaMonkey quite nicely for local music, plus Last.FM and a few other streaming apps.
I only have 2 real complaints about it:
1. No genre support - I listen to my music like I listen to FM radio - by genres. I.e. I'll be like, 'hmm, think i want to listen to some Country music today' as opposed to album or artist. I have all my music tagged with the correct genre, but I have yet to find an Android music player app that reads this particular tag and lets me browse by genre. It's really quite frustrating. The only one I know of is the music player in Sense UI, but I obviously don't have (or really want) that entire UI on my N1.
2. Doesn't sync back ratings or last played/playcount meta - Since I only have an 8GB microSD, I have a few autoplaylists setup in MediaMonkey that are limited in size and populate themselves with music from a specific genre that I haven't listened to in the past 30 days - it's a great way to keep my collection fresh. Unfortunately, syncing these to my phone is pointless because the phone doesn't track that I've listened to them, if that makes sense?
Aside from that, it's great. I connect the thing to everything - I have a pair of Bose in-ear earphones that fit *awesome*, and I just picked up a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903s that work great, too. I have a 3.5mm audio in on my truck that I use when I'm in the car, too.
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I use my N1 for music, too - I have it syncing with MediaMonkey quite nicely for local music, plus Last.FM and a few other streaming apps.
I only have 2 real complaints about it:
1. No genre support - I listen to my music like I listen to FM radio - by genres. I.e. I'll be like, 'hmm, think i want to listen to some Country music today' as opposed to album or artist. I have all my music tagged with the correct genre, but I have yet to find an Android music player app that reads this particular tag and lets me browse by genre. It's really quite frustrating. The only one I know of is the music player in Sense UI, but I obviously don't have (or really want) that entire UI on my N1.
2. Doesn't sync back ratings or last played/playcount meta - Since I only have an 8GB microSD, I have a few autoplaylists setup in MediaMonkey that are limited in size and populate themselves with music from a specific genre that I haven't listened to in the past 30 days - it's a great way to keep my collection fresh. Unfortunately, syncing these to my phone is pointless because the phone doesn't track that I've listened to them, if that makes sense?
Aside from that, it's great. I connect the thing to everything - I have a pair of Bose in-ear earphones that fit *awesome*, and I just picked up a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903s that work great, too. I have a 3.5mm audio in on my truck that I use when I'm in the car, too.
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Those additions would be awesome to be honest. When you have large libraries of music it can get to be a bit much if you're wanting a specific genre at the time. I usually just shuffle all but it would be nice to have this.
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1. No genre support - I listen to my music like I listen to FM radio - by genres. I.e. I'll be like, 'hmm, think i want to listen to some Country music today' as opposed to album or artist. I have all my music tagged with the correct genre, but I have yet to find an Android music player app that reads this particular tag and lets me browse by genre. It's really quite frustrating. The only one I know of is the music player in Sense UI, but I obviously don't have (or really want) that entire UI on my N1.
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Mixzing allows playing by genre and has a free version (with ads) plus a non-free one.
the orange bandit said:
I use my N1 for music, too - I have it syncing with MediaMonkey quite nicely for local music, plus Last.FM and a few other streaming apps.
I only have 2 real complaints about it:
1. No genre support - I listen to my music like I listen to FM radio - by genres. I.e. I'll be like, 'hmm, think i want to listen to some Country music today' as opposed to album or artist. I have all my music tagged with the correct genre, but I have yet to find an Android music player app that reads this particular tag and lets me browse by genre. It's really quite frustrating. The only one I know of is the music player in Sense UI, but I obviously don't have (or really want) that entire UI on my N1.
2. Doesn't sync back ratings or last played/playcount meta - Since I only have an 8GB microSD, I have a few autoplaylists setup in MediaMonkey that are limited in size and populate themselves with music from a specific genre that I haven't listened to in the past 30 days - it's a great way to keep my collection fresh. Unfortunately, syncing these to my phone is pointless because the phone doesn't track that I've listened to them, if that makes sense?
Aside from that, it's great. I connect the thing to everything - I have a pair of Bose in-ear earphones that fit *awesome*, and I just picked up a pair of Plantronics Backbeat 903s that work great, too. I have a 3.5mm audio in on my truck that I use when I'm in the car, too.
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I don't think you said what you use to play back the music, I'm guessing the built-in media player? Never used it myself... bTunes has a genre browser and you can play from it..
Just wish bTunes didn't insist on looking like an iPhone, stupid quirky fake looking interface..
I sold my ipod because i have a 16gb card but i still get kinda anal because my battery still deosn't last very long and listening to music alot shortens it even more
im playing mp3s on my new win-7 laptop over a bluetooth connection to my phone right now
I love my N1 as a music player. iPods will never give me Pandora at the gym unless the gym itself has wifi. Plus, I won't miss phone calls while I'm working out.
Thanks for the reply guys, appreciate it!
Think i'll save the cash and just get a 32GB card and thrash the phone around.
Can you recommend any good earphones with controls? or stock ears phones just as good?
I use my N1 as a music player a lot...It works great at home or traveling!
If anyone is interesting have a look at Music Mod - http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.piratemedia.musicmod
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If anyone is interesting have a look at Music Mod - http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.piratemedia.musicmod
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allot of those features are built into the CM6 RC1. The latest nightly adds even some more functions. Like controlling the music with your volume paddle like all the other CMs as well as controlling the music on your lock screen. I love it.
Cause im planning on using a 32Gb SD card, does the N1 handle a lot of music fairly ok? I'll probably be putting on about 3000 songs (this is how much my ipod had)

[Q] Newbie begging help

Hello!
I am looking for something that does not seem to exist. I registered here in hopes that the brilliant minds of XDA might be able to offer me a solution.
I want Bluetooth hands-free calling on my desktop PC.
Let me explain: I work in my garage. I use my garage PC as my only music source. I use it for email and web stuff too, of course, but its main job is providing a streaming source for music from the server in my house.
When I am working and my phone rings, I cannot hear my phone. Tablesaws and routers and sanders are noisy, and the music is blasting.
What I want is the same thing my $200 car stereo does: mute or pause the music and announce the caller ID through my speakers. When I am done with the call, resume the music.
Seems simple, doesn't it? I have been googling this for quite some time. No answers anywhere, it seems.
If/when I push the button to answer, I want to use a microphone and my speakers to talk on the phone...simple as that. Yes, I know, there are a hundred ways of doing this other than my PC (stream to tablet, BT to tab, tablet to stereo, etc.) but nothing is going to live very long in all this sawdust (including my PC, but I don't care) so the goal is to have to buy nothing but a BT dongle and some software.
So...since I work on stereo stuff for a living, the stuff you guys do is a complete mystery to me, but I know what I want.
Does anyone know of an app that does this? If not, it seems to me that this would be a fairly marketable thing, does anyone have an interest in developing this?
Thanks for looking, and hope you have some brilliant answers for my dilemma.
Thanks!
Luke Fisher
well if you plug your phone into the speakers and play music of it like Pandora or even download your own music. Then when you get a call the music will stop and your ring-tone will play through the speakers till you pick up the call or miss the call.
ladclothing said:
well if you plug your phone into the speakers and play music of it like Pandora or even download your own music. Then when you get a call the music will stop and your ring-tone will play through the speakers till you pick up the call or miss the call.
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Yes this is true, there are no cross platforms apps that really do what you want. This will happen probably in the next years it has to do with getting the platforms to work together.
I looked into this a couple of months ago, I did find a work around if you want to operate in linux........ then you can get the phone and computer to work together but then you are doing your own custom programming...... and you just want an app sounds like you do not want to be the programmer
Maybe someone else knows more and chime in............
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Yes this is true, there are no cross platforms apps that really do what you want. This will happen probably in the next years it has to do with getting the platforms to work together.
I looked into this a couple of months ago, I did find a work around if you want to operate in linux........ then you can get the phone and computer to work together but then you are doing your own custom programming...... and you just want an app sounds like you do not want to be the programmer
Maybe someone else knows more and chime in............
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Linux? Isn't that Charlie Browns best friend? Has a sister named Lucy, right?
Guys, my phone is a POS, ain't gonna go there at all. Samsung Instinct S30, until I find what I need a phone to do I am not giving up any money at all.
I know I can connect a cell phone to a PC with nothing but a simple BT dongle, but getting it to pause the music is the tough part.
Maybe I will just get another JVC KD-R900 and use it for shop tunes. I could run the shop stereo from it, just use the AUX in on the JVC from the PC.
Oddly enough, I listen to full albums, often several from the same artist, so I have no use for broadcast radio, nor sattelite or internet radio, just full CDs on my hard drive.
Thanks for the input so far, guys!
Luke
Stereoinstaller1 said:
Linux? Isn't that Charlie Browns best friend? Has a sister named Lucy, right?
Guys, my phone is a POS, ain't gonna go there at all. Samsung Instinct S30, until I find what I need a phone to do I am not giving up any money at all.
I know I can connect a cell phone to a PC with nothing but a simple BT dongle, but getting it to pause the music is the tough part.
Maybe I will just get another JVC KD-R900 and use it for shop tunes. I could run the shop stereo from it, just use the AUX in on the JVC from the PC.
Oddly enough, I listen to full albums, often several from the same artist, so I have no use for broadcast radio, nor sattelite or internet radio, just full CDs on my hard drive.
Thanks for the input so far, guys!
Luke
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Hmm... I have just done something similar with my phone.
Here's the setup:
You'll need:
1. A hi-fi system
2. An Android phone (any would do, but some of the apps in Andriod is critical)
3. 16-32gb sd-card
4. Bluetooth dongle for answering phones
Plug your phone into the hifi using the stereo sound jack, and plug your phone into the charger. Play music straight from the phone, and when it rings, you can set certain music apps to mute the music while letting the ringtone through. I'm quite sure that the default music app from el Goog, does that well.

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