Making Vista show some love to your Kaiser - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Alot of people are having problems making the switch to vista, i created this thread to help out making the move easier and help solve some compatability issues, as currently they aren't very easy to find all in one place. This thread is a depository for vista how-to's and fixes. I will continue to updates it as i find problems and solutions.
-----MY KAISER ISN"T BEING READ BY WINDOWS VISTA!!!!!-----
If your kaiser isn't being read by windows vista there is a pretty simple solution, you just need to disable advanced networking on your kaiser. To do this go to:
START----SETTINGS---CONNECTIONS---USB TO PC---UNCHECK THE BOX
After you do this your computer should greet you like r2d2 and install drivers and then connect to WMDC.
If you have further problems try swapping usb cords or using a different usb port (you have to connect via usb for the first time.)
------Using your device as a modem--------
WARNING tethering your devise is usually in violation of your contract, you will be able to use your phone as a modem but if you start using "excessive" amounts of data you could get in some trouble.
This is also a simple fix and requires only that you use the program "internet share" on your kaiser. (if you don't have it you can get it here thanks to ericc191) download the file and unzip the two items in it and place them in the windows directory. You can then create a shortcut and place in Windows>Start Menu>Programs.
Run the program and then select the type of connection you would like to use, bluetooth or usb. if you use bluetooth you will need to set up a partnership before hand. Personally i recommend usb because it is more secure won't kill your battery because it is plugged in and charging. Choose the internet service you would like to connect to and then push "connect" (left soft button.) Vista should automatically install the modem driver connect to your phone AS A MODEM. You will not be able to transfer file at this point as vista is recognising your phone as a modem, not as a windows mobile devise. you will not be connected to windows mobile devise center(WMDC.)
----I can't read my files or set up my device!----
Is your device connecting to WMDC? if not read "my kaiser isn't being read by windows vista." If your device is connected make sure you have disabled programs such as "MY MOBILER" as they do not react the same way as they do with active sync.
----Flashing in vista is here!!!
I take no credit for this, A big thanks to MrVanx as he made this tutorial possible!
One problem with windows VISTA is that it uses the new "Windows Mobile Device Centre" and not activesync which we are used to, thus our standard RUU programs will not upgrade our Hermes devices as in windows XP. This guide will show you how to configure VISTA to work just the same as XP with our RUU programs.
NOTE: PLease Download the latest version of WMDC before attempting this.
You will need winrar to extract the files
First of all you will need one of these drivers depending on your version of Vista:
Windows Vista x32 Usb Driver
Windows Vista x64 Usb Driver
NOTE TO x64 WINDOWS USERS, you will need to boot up with driver signing enforcement turned off. To accomplish this, you will need to press F8 during boot up. If you do not do this, the 64 bit drivers will not install properly and this tutorial will not be of any use to you.
And of course you will need the Vista RUU
Extract the contents to a folder on your desktop, call this folder "AS_DRIVERS". It contains the drivers from activesync which we will use instead of the native VISTA WMDC drivers when the device is in bootloader.
1.Now you must enter the bootloader on your device, to do this press and hold both the side ok button and the power button then put your stylus into the hole on the bottom of the device, your device will reset and show the red blue green bootloader screen. LEAVE THE DEVICE IN BOOTLOADER MODE and connect it using the USB cable to your VISTA PC.
2.Now navigate into the WMDC (Start>All Programs>Windows Mobile Device Center) and click on the "connection settings" menu icon.
3.In the connection settings menu untick "allow USB connections" then press OK.
4.Now exit the WMDC and return to the desktop, go into the start menu and type "Services", this will take you into the local services dialogue and show a list of all services either running or registered with your pc.
5.Scroll down the list and make sure these services are present:
Windows Mobile-based connectivity
Windows Mobile 2003-based connectivity
If these services are not started then double click each one and set them to Automatic start by clicking the "startup-type" drop-down menu and selecting automatic then click the start button in the same window, apply the setting by pressing OK. Now return back to the desktop again.
6.Go into the start menu and type "Device Manager" then run, this will take you into the device manager. Click the "+" symbol next to "Mobile Devices" and double click on "HTC USB Sync".
This will bring up the properties of the currently connected device (the Kaiser in bootloader).
7.Go to the "Driver" tab and click "Update Driver".
8.Click "Browse My Computer for Driver Software".
9.Select "Let me pick from a list...."
10.Click the "Have Disk" button.
11.Click "Browse" and navigate to the AS_DRIVERS folder we created earlier.
12.
Vista x32 users select the file "wceusbsh.inf"
Vista x64 users select the file "wceusbshx64.inf"
Click open.
13.click next and the driver will be installed (wait a moment).
14.Press close and escape back to the desktop now.
Now we must stop the WMDC process, start the task manager by pressing Ctrl+Shift+Escape.
Click the WMDC line and click "End Process". In the confirmation window, again press End Process.
Now re-enter the WMDC and re-enable USB connections (click connection settings and tick the box "enable USB connections").
Your RUU programs for HardSPL/Radios/WM6 ROMs should now run as desired once you are synced with WMDC. Since we have updated the driver which Vista uses when the device is in bootloader mode.
NOTE:: This technique is still in testing! It has been proven to work though!

The Vista Version of MTTY can be downloaded from dave daveshaw's site (http://taeguk.co.uk/xda)
Thanks dave!

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Did installing vista 32bit drivers help anyone?
I had this problem before but not anymore as I am using a shorter usb cable that was used to power portable hard drive and now it connects every time and charges phone faster.

moddin said:
Did installing vista 32bit drivers help anyone?
I had this problem before but not anymore as I am using a shorter usb cable that was used to power portable hard drive and now it connects every time and charges phone faster.
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vista 32 bit driver is actually the driver from active sync, they should allow flashing, they won't necessarilly "help" with anything beyond that... does that answer your question?

The Vista Version of MTTY can be downloaded from my site (http://taeguk.co.uk/xda) - it's not my work, I just keep a mirror.
Ta
Dave

Well... It's good BUT i never had any problems with Vista really! More with Xp than with Vista! At least with Original Rom and Mobile device manager, no problems, everything works perfectly!

DaveShaw said:
The Vista Version of MTTY can be downloaded from my site (http://taeguk.co.uk/xda) - it's not my work, I just keep a mirror.
Ta
Dave
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Thanks dave i'll put it in the original post

bandit2xx said:
Well... It's good BUT i never had any problems with Vista really! More with Xp than with Vista! At least with Original Rom and Mobile device manager, no problems, everything works perfectly!
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same here. Now an XP user but never had any problems with Vista. Flashed ROMs daily...

Hi
I'm posting for my brother, he has a Kaiser and is trying to connect to his windows vista 32 computer. Problem is that he can't get the drivers to load for nothing good! He has tried everything you wrote here and still it won't detect the Kaiser! Whatelse can he do?
Regards

maw said:
Problem is that he can't get the drivers to load for nothing good!
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If Advanced Networking is disabled on the phone, the next thing to check is that the latest version of WMDC is downloaded and installed on the Vista PC (and reboot after that before plugging in the phone just to be on the safe side). Yes the last step is on the previous page but you may have missed it....

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My computer dont detect my HTC TyTn II

After a hard reset on the TyTn my computer is no longer detecting it when I connect the phone to USB cable. The computer makes a sound when I connect it, but Windows Mobile Device Centrer say that TyTn II is not connected, and it does not show up in My Computer eather.
I've tryed to delete the partnership and reconnect the phone, but nothing happens.
Can anyone help me please! Now I cant install any of my programs og transfer files between the computer and the pocket pc/phone.
Try this:
tap Start > Settings > Connections.
tap USB to computer.
Uncheck the Enable advanced network functionality box
Try this:
tap Start > Settings > Connections.
tap USB to computer.
Uncheck the Enable advanced network functionality box
I uninstalled Windows Mobile Device Centrer and then tryed the tip you described here. At first it looked ok, my computer detected the device and installed the drivers and reinstalled Windows Mobile Device Centrer.
But my device is still not showing up in Windows Mobile Device Centrer or My Computer
Check your personal firewall settings and open the ports MS asks you to at the Windows Mobile home/support page...
Go into task manager & see if Activesync is running. I have the same problem with my tilt & if I kill activesync then reattach it takes a moment the first time, but then it works.
Make sure you are running the latest version of WMDC. I absolutely could not get WMDC to work with my HTC Wizard for months. After MS came out with an updated version of WMDC (around June, I think) it started working fine.
If you absolutely can't get it to work, consider using emoze for over the air syncing of cal, contacts, mail, etc. (or an on-line exchange account.) I had to do that for a few months until I got it to work. Emoze has the advantage of being free. Unfortunately, neither will allow file syncronization, tho.
There is no activesync running.
And everything was working just fine before my device went "mental" and I had to hard reset. So before the hard reset I could use WMDC on this computer, transfer files and run active sync. But now I cant.
I also got an online exchange account so I can sync calender and contacts. But I want to be albe to transfer files to my computer and install new software.
My WMDC version is: 6.1.6965
Some more info about the computer may help. For instance, I take it from your usage fo Windows Mobile Device Center that you are running Vista. In any case, since the problem is with the computer and not the Kaiser, I would see if the manufacturer would provide some support.
Yes, im running Vista and I buildt the PC my self.
But Im not sure its realy the PC that is the problem, because I made the changes (Hard Reset) to the device and thats what caused the problem.
Anyway, I was hoping for some way to debug/troubleshoot this problem.
I am having the same problem. I sync to any one of 8 computers at work and one at home. Work runs XP PRO and Home VISTA Ultimate x64 all worked fine untill this week. I have not made any changes since the last sync, the computers know it's hooked up due to activesync opening and trying to connect when I plug in via USB. But it never connects. I want to flash to Dutty's newest ROM but can't connect. I sync all contacts and e-mail wirelessly but need the computer to flash (I do not have a sd card yet) Any idead would be great! I have tried the ideas listed above but no joy. I have not hard reset the device as of yet ( I need some things off of it first)
Steve
BUMP
I really need help with this!!! I'm pulling my hair out!
Did any of you that had this problem find a solution? I have the exact same issue except a hard reset will fix it for a while, and then the problem will reoccur a few months later. No software has been added during the time frame. Very annoying.
i've got just the same problem! plaese help us!
i'm not able to install wmdc. it says it is for vista only. i'm currently on winxp. tried to install it via the disc provided..
lipanz said:
i'm not able to install wmdc. it says it is for vista only. i'm currently on winxp. tried to install it via the disc provided..
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omg!
try activesync for XP. It came with the phone or you can download it from.
http://www.microsoft.com/windowsmobile/en-us/help/synchronize/device-synch.mspx

Kaiser / TyTN II / Tilt Users running Vista I need your help

I have been running Windows Vista x64 Ultimate for some time now. I have been able to sync fine for some time now but all of sudden I am unable to now. I have tried flashing back the original AT&T ROM and still haven't had any sucess syncing it to Vista. I was doing some reading on Microsoft's website and found this solution to the exact problem that I am having.
I have re-installed WMDC 3 times already, so I don't think that's the problem either. I can't do a system restore because my restore only goes back that far. My phone is able to sync fine with Windows XP Professional so I pretty sure it has something to do with Vista, not working correctly.
Here is the error that I get and Microsoft's solution to the problem:
Windows Mobile Device Center fails to connect due to the Windows Portable Device driver failing to load. In some cases, you may be unable to connect and only a red X error icon is displayed in Windows Mobile Device Center. This can be caused by Windows Portable Device driver failing to load. Connect your device
Go to Manager (Computer > Properties)
Find the Portable Devices node
Locate the Windows Mobile device entry
Choose to uninstall the driver
Reconnect your device
I tried following the directions but I am not sure where to go. What is Microsoft talking about when it says go to Manager? I have no idea where that is. Any help would be greatly appreciated. I am been fighting with this for some time now, about a week in all, and I still haven't been able to figure it out.
Oh this ActiveSync issue was thought to be resolved by WMDC but not yet completely. Anyway, you might try the above as Microsoft says. Manager is the Device Manager. You shall find it by right-click on My Computer icon, select Properties and in the Window that opens, a link to Device Manager is at the left top corner. Is that the one you were looking for?
Regards,
Carty..
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Oh this ActiveSync issue was thought to be resolved by WMDC but not yet completely. Anyway, you might try the above as Microsoft says. Manager is the Device Manager. You shall find it by right-click on My Computer icon, select Properties and in the Window that opens, a link to Device Manager is at the left top corner. Is that the one you were looking for?
Regards,
Carty..
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Thanks for the quick reply but I don't think that is it. I have searched through the device manager and couldn't find anything that related to what Microsoft said. I was just wondering if there was something else they were refering to but I was guessing it was Device Manager. However I thought they would just say "Device Manager" if that's what it really was.
Dude, i think you are on the right track. The "Manager" is definitely "Device Manager" although the Portable Devices item will not actually be displayed in Device Manager if the Kaiser / TyTN II is not actually connected to the PC via USB / Bluetooth.
Try connecting the phone to the PC and check Device Manager again. If the Portable Devices heading does not show up with the phone connected the steps suggested by Microsoft may not fix your problem. Let us know how you get on. I have 3 vista PC's here with me so I may be able to help you work it out if you still have no luck.
Cheers
Chris
I needed a hotfix from microsoft before i could even sync mine the first time.....

another program besides activesync

is there another program that will do what activsync does no matter what i do i cannot get it to work on my winxp machine
Does your pc see the device when you plug it in?
Try disabling firewall temporarily to see if that allows it to see it?
Try switching the advanced networking functionality off in usb-to-pc, in settings, connections tab.
yes it see the deivce it does work all besides when i try and run a exe file to install it says error cannot install it home this makes since also turned off firewall
AL
I second the idea to disable advanced network functionality... in case you missed it:
Settings => Connections => USB to PC => *deselect* the "Enable advanced network functionality" checkbox
guys i must be blind casue i do not see that are we talking on my activsync screen i am using 4.5 of activsync
or my winxp
either place i do not see it
AL
ok guys i figured out what you mean let me splain a little better it sync fine and i can move files back and fourth fine
but when i try to run a exe or cab file on my winxp machine it gives me a error and will not install it on my phone but i dug out my laptop and installed sync on it and it will work just a pain every time to get it out and use it
so i did not know what to try next it has too be something on my winxp
and thought maybe somebody else had this problem ans new how to fix it ...
AL
copy exe or cab files to your device and than try installing them
the cab files on the phone always too but not exe cause it is not made to do that it they are made to run on windows xp or vista
it is a realy weard problem i am haveing sure whish i could figure it out ...
AL
If the exe really is to be run on oc, then run it, then plug device in and then in activesync on the pc, check the add/remove programs menu item to see if the app is there.
If not then as previously said, copy it across to the device and run it there.
i guess i am not explaining myself right
lets go this way say i have a exe that is made for wm6 and it is on my
laptop with sync hooked up and the phone just setting there if i run that exe it install it and a screen opens up and says check your device when i look at my device it his asking me where to install it
ok now if this same exe was on my winxp and sync up it will not work it gives me a a error and it never shows up on my phone like it would on my laptop and my comp at work
I hope this makes more since AL
and thanks for trying to help me figure this out

Can't connect to Activesync

i need some help
when i connect the usb with my tilt
it just charges the phone
You want to give a little bit more information?
Yes, that would help. What happens when you connect and what version of active sync do you have and what Windows OS are you running?
Step one: make sure you have activesync v. 4.5
step two: disable your norton or mcafee or whatever virus protection you have
step three: go to start, control panel, switch to classic view (on the left side) click on windows firewall and disable it.
it should connect at this point.
leave the device connected and disable one at a time when you hear that little activesync noise you've found the program that was causing the problem. Ta Da! let me know if that works. PM me if anything else.
gqstatus0685 said:
Step one: make sure you have activesync v. 4.5
step two: disable your norton or mcafee or whatever virus protection you have
step three: go to start, control panel, switch to classic view (on the left side) click on windows firewall and disable it.
it should connect at this point.
leave the device connected and disable one at a time when you hear that little activesync noise you've found the program that was causing the problem. Ta Da! let me know if that works. PM me if anything else.
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i tired it
but it still doesnt work
i am using xp, and the activesync is 4.5
when i connect the phone to PC, it doesnt even show up new hardware detected and asked me to install a driver
it just keep charging the phone
Hmmmmm, hard reset or in device manager check for your device's driver and delete it, then try again.
~~Tito~~ said:
Hmmmmm, hard reset or in device manager check for your device's driver and delete it, then try again.
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already did a hard reset
where is device manager located?
Right click on my computer, go to properties, then hardware, then click device manager.
~~Tito~~ said:
Right click on my computer, go to properties, then hardware, then click device manager.
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r u asking me to removed all usb drivers?
coz it doesnt say which one is which
Sometimes this is a simple cable problem.
Try a different USB Port on your computer, or a different cable. Also check that you haven't damaged the USB connection on your phone (some people do this by poking it with their stylus when trying to soft reset).
I had a similar problem, no idea if it is the same or even similar, but with mine RAPImgr also locked up and spiked the CPU usage to 50% (ie maxed out one of the cores - have a look in task manager). This only started happening with my Kaiser, wasn't happening with the Hermes....
Anyway, the way I solved it was to go to Start -> Settings -> Connections -> USB to PC and disable the "advanced network functionality" (ie uncheck the box).
If I had already plugged the phone into the computer, rapimgr would already be locked up and the only solution was to reboot (killing the process spawns a new one and when you finally find its parent's parent to kill, it takes out something vital which causes the machine to force a reboot).
For it to connect to my Vista box, I have to have this setting enabled. For XP I have to have it disabled.
Hope this is of some help.
I too was having this problem - i uninstalled ActiveSync from my PC and reinstalled it from the MS site - works fine now.

Any idea how to use a usb cable to get a kaiser to use the inet connection of a PC?

I'm a consultant and there is a cool invoice software for windows mobile 6
but most offices I go to don't have wifi so is there a way to use the pc's internet connection from a kaiser?
Thanks.
May want to do a search on that since its been posted many times already.
It's prety easy to tether a Tilt to a laptop, as long as it's NOT Vista. Vista is a pain in the ass. Anyway, on your Tit use the file explorer and go into the Windows folder. Look for a file called "Internet Sharing (2)". Hold your stylus down over it until the menu box popsup and select "copy". Now go into your Windows/Program folder and paste the shortcut there. Next, just go into your phone under Programs and find the shirtcut you just pasted. CLick on it. Now you'll see two boxes with drop-down menus to make selections. On the first one choose"USB", and on the second choose "Internet". Now connect your usb cable to your device and laptop. You'll see it start to recognize Activesync like normally, but now on your Tilt in that Internet Saring window the last thing to do is click "COnect" on the bottom. That's it. Actve sync will stop, and your lapop will take a moment o ecognize the new modem. Soon as thats down just openup a browser. TAH-DAH!
If you mean using the pc's conection on the device there are settings in active sync and wmdc which can enable it.
Which one are you using?
ronfin44 said:
It's prety easy to tether a Tilt to a laptop, as long as it's NOT Vista. Vista is a pain in the ass.
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I'd like to know how to do it with Vista. I just picked up a new laptop and found this thread searching for exactly that. And I agree, Vista is a pain in the ass...
ronfin44 said:
It's prety easy to tether a Tilt to a laptop, as long as it's NOT Vista. Vista is a pain in the ass. Anyway, on your Tit use the file explorer and go into the Windows folder. Look for a file called "Internet Sharing (2)". Hold your stylus down over it until the menu box popsup and select "copy". Now go into your Windows/Program folder and paste the shortcut there. Next, just go into your phone under Programs and find the shirtcut you just pasted. CLick on it. Now you'll see two boxes with drop-down menus to make selections. On the first one choose"USB", and on the second choose "Internet". Now connect your usb cable to your device and laptop. You'll see it start to recognize Activesync like normally, but now on your Tilt in that Internet Saring window the last thing to do is click "COnect" on the bottom. That's it. Actve sync will stop, and your lapop will take a moment o ecognize the new modem. Soon as thats down just openup a browser. TAH-DAH!
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does this work with vista?
rbade said:
I'd like to know how to do it with Vista. I just picked up a new laptop and found this thread searching for exactly that. And I agree, Vista is a pain in the ass...
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Really? I haven't had any issues with Vista and my Tilt? What excatly are the problems encountered?
my first choice is usb or bluetooth pan i select usb then second choice is medianet or att gprs how do i get internet as a choice
Or read the original post...
He doesnt want to use the Kaiser's web connection on the pc... he wants to use the pc's connection on the Kaiser.
Just plug the device into the pc - then run windows update and it will download and install Windows Mobile Device Centre. Then set it up as a guest and you are good to go.
(I am still amazed that there are people who don't use Activesync/WMDC with the WM devices)
unwired4 said:
Or read the original post...
He doesnt want to use the Kaiser's web connection on the pc... he wants to use the pc's connection on the Kaiser.
Just plug the device into the pc - then run windows update and it will download and install Windows Mobile Device Centre. Then set it up as a guest and you are good to go.
(I am still amazed that there are people who don't use Activesync/WMDC with the WM devices)
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I agree. This thread has been too confusing. Just install Activesync on Windows XP or WMDC on Vista. Connect the phone with USB cable and it will be able to access anything the the main PC can access
The only problem you can have are firewalls, the Wm device connects to IP 169.254.2.2 on the PC.
I have connected several PDAs with different ROMs to several computers, and it connects and sync always.
i answer this question all the time;
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Windows CE Services]
"AllowLSP"=dword:00000000
add that to your registry and it will work.
whats the difference of medianet and att isp gprs?

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