Diamond vs Sony XPERIA 1 - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

guys i love my diamond but i like the look of the new sony xperia 1 - any comparisons?

Since it has Keyboard, it should be compered to Touch Pro and not to Diamond...

the xperia 1 is nice, but check out the HTC Touch HD (granted no keyboard but look at that screen)

what i really wanted to know was whether or not it would be as customisable as the diamond (TP is basically same as diamond apart form keyboard)
i.e. can you put a standard windows today screen on it
anyway was just wondering if anyone on here had one as its just come out and coul compare its functionality and battery life etc to HTC phones

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HTC HOME_v.2_0_18122822_1

who has it? I see cooked within a couple roms but no where to be found being separate.
is there any significant improvements in this build or is it just some different look? i use htc home that came with my device (original htc ROM) and it works fine, i don't need anything more than that (considering htc home). if you need just some diamond look for htc home you can find some skins for HHC on xda. i recently saw one that looks really good, but can't remember where. it could be related to HHC threads.
talking about diamond look, here is a nice one if you're into diamond
i was hoping it was related to that manila project with touchflo 3d that just got suspended on research. i'm also hunting for the diamond's version of cameraalbum
i guess kaiser can't run touch flo 3d proper even if it is fully optimized for QVGA because of it's poor video performance (driver issue). besides that i don't really see any advantages of diamond or it's look. for me it's much better to have original htc home theme than diamond one. original looks much better and more suitable for kaiser. and as for touch flo 3d, there is no use of it without some quality video support for kaiser.
edit: and the camera album from diamond is having some issues on kaiser as i recall. i, in general, i don't see what's so interesting about diamond (except drivers)
antihrist said:
is there any significant improvements in this build or is it just some different look? i use htc home that came with my device (original htc ROM) and it works fine, i don't need anything more than that (considering htc home). if you need just some diamond look for htc home you can find some skins for HHC on xda. i recently saw one that looks really good, but can't remember where. it could be related to HHC threads.
talking about diamond look, here is a nice one if you're into diamond
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http://rapidshare.com/files/118808382/HTC_Diamond_Album_QVGA.zip Htc Diamond Album

User Interfaces from other WM6.1 phones

With all the new WM 6.1 devices coming up, each with their own nice 3D user interfaces, would it be possible to exchange these UIs from one device to another? WOuld it for instance be possible to extract the Omnia user interface from the samsung sgh-i900 and run it as a today application on the HTC Touch Diamond? Or the Sony Ericsson Experia X1s interface? And vice versa...
I would expect this to be possible since it is a WM6.1 device, or am I wrong? What would be needed?
I expect to see Manilla and Xperia homescreens running on each others hardware.

Omnia Home screen on Diamond

Hallo all... a though... Touch Flo 3D is just an app... and one can run the SPB homepage and theme as an App...
Why not get and run some of the Omnia Homescreens as apps to replace Touch flo 3D and give you different opetions.. and for that matter the Xperia X1 homescreen... same hardware.. and just software on Mobile 6.1
Should work?
err have you ever used an omnia? it would be great to have touchflow3d on omnia but having touchwiz on diamond? blargh... i hated that thing seems so childish
How about the X1 interface?
Well yes, the Omnia interface... was more an example than a request... I think the X1's interface might be a little more worth the effort....
What do you guys think?
i think both interfaces may be higly problematic because they are made for widescreen (as the x1 and omnia have one->the diamond not)
look here
they are already playing with the rom
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=418143&highlight=Omnia

Omnia or Pixon Port/Rom?

Ive noticed that the Manila cab from the blackstone has been ported over so was just wondering if it was possible with the pixon/omina.
I was playing with a friends today and I have to say, this phone is MUCH faster than the X1 and it is definatly a better phone. The only advantage the X1 has is panel and a hard keyboard.
As the Omnia or Pixon run of WinMo6.1 would it be difficult to port it?
I mean, it supports landscape which would obv be triggered by the keyboard being pulled out rather than a accelrometer.
Also, the camera kicks ass on the Omnia. Face Detection and 5mp! I know 5mp is impossible on the X1 but is face dectection too hard to implement? Im guessing the only difference between the two phones is the hardware, so face detection is done on a software level.
It would be great to have this on the X1 as I really like the Omnia and am tempted to swap my X1 for it. The only thing im keeping my X1 for is the panels (not sure why) and the hard keyboard.
Or could the panels be ported to the Omnia?
Evostance said:
I was playing with a friends today and I have to say, this phone is MUCH faster than the X1 and it is definatly a better phone. The only advantage the X1 has is panel and a hard keyboard.
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Wait ....... What ?
I dont know how about you, but surfing the internet @ 240*400 is a pain in the ass IMO. More: No d-pad, no OpenGL-ES (?), WAY worse battery life, etc etc.
The Omnia is no match for the X1.
[edit] Oh, wow, I totally forgot about the Omnia's 128MB of RAM vs the 256MB of the X1 ...
Haha, i personally feel that i will keep the X1 instead, how i was hoping to get a X1 or Touch HD , just go throw in the TF3D from Touch Hd, you will love it...
SomeoneSimple said:
Wait ....... What ?
I dont know how about you, but surfing the internet @ 240*400 is a pain in the ass IMO. More: No d-pad, no OpenGL-ES (?), WAY worse battery life, etc etc.
The Omnia is no match for the X1.
[edit] Oh, wow, I totally forgot about the Omnia's 128MB of RAM vs the 256MB of the X1 ...
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100% agree
Wow...any of you thought about reading.
I asked for a port of the ROM not a port of the hardware....
Merry Xmas
my understanding is that pixon is a toy phone with a crazy camera from hell
Well the Pixon is its own OS. The Omnia is a windows based phone with a fancy interface and a crazy ass camera.
To be fair, I think they're both equal in term of perfurmance (Omnia has faster processor while Xperia has larger ram) and the OpenGL in Xperia is already taken by the WVGA screen (while in Omnia it WQVGA with no OpenGL) but it still support DivX.
Omnia outstands the Xperia in the camera, including it's flash (although it's Sony's speciality) and Xperia outstands Omina in the display (monitor).
Xperia UI (Panels) is way better than Omnia's (TouchWiz); they're both handy and finger-friendly but TouchWiz is uncustomizable.
Also, Xperia has a full keyboard and more buttons on the outside while Omnia has G-Sensor (Accelerometer) and less in weight, size and price.
Finally, Xperia is better when it comes to SSD Memory Card (don't have to remove the battery) and Stylus (stuck inside instead of hanging on the side). But with the 8 GB inside Omnia, no one needs SSD Memory Card and the interfaces in both are already finger-freindly so through away your styluses.
Well if we go back to the subject...
I think that the difference in screen resolution is a hard nut to crack when porting all the stuff in Omnia to the X1.
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Well if we go back to the subject...
I think that the difference in screen resolution is a hard nut to crack when porting all the stuff in Omnia to the X1.
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exporting doesn't mean raw exporting; it's more of programming the same concept considering the target PPC. I think it's been made already for QVGA devices.
Evostance said:
Wow...any of you thought about reading.
I asked for a port of the ROM not a port of the hardware....
Merry Xmas
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You're right that they didn't answer your question. However, you have to admit; when you need info from people in the X1 forum it's not smart to start by telling why you feel the Omnia is so much better (We all love the X1 here!), as you'll compel others to start a discussion on it.
About that, I've experienced an Omnia. It's a nice toy, but just that, a toy. The X1 is for serious business.
Having said that, I think it's not that easy to port things like panels to the Omnia. As stated above the Omnia's screen just fails in comparison to the X1. Then there's hardware and driver issues to tackle if you get past resolution. I highly doubt you'll find a coder who's willing to do this for you.
I like the Idea of an Omnia Panel
Generally I am tired of the dicussion between the preferences of Omnia / Touch HD / Xperia and so on but I reallylike the idea to have the different phone software on different panels of my X1. Thats why I decided to contribute to this thread. Of course it is not easy to port the Omnia software to the Xperia because of different screen resulution and acceleromater different drivers etc. but thats the challenge!!!
To start the challengenge I want to post all extracted Omnia apps which can found on the following website:
[URL="http://mobile.etechniker.com/"]http://mobile.etechniker.com/[/URL]
I am no developer but already tried to install different apps but with out success. Installing works very well but when you like to start the following error occurs:
"The file 'Contents Manager' can not be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
Moreover, today plugins and widgets can not be activated after installation. I already tried the new Samsung D3d drivers and Flash lite to install before I start the apps without any success.
Hope there is anybody else interested in porting Omnia apps to the X1 and can help with this issues.
premutos said:
Generally I am tired of the dicussion between the preferences of Omnia / Touch HD / Xperia and so on but I reallylike the idea to have the different phone software on different panels of my X1. Thats why I decided to contribute to this thread. Of course it is not easy to port the Omnia software to the Xperia because of different screen resulution and acceleromater different drivers etc. but thats the challenge!!!
To start the challengenge I want to post all extracted Omnia apps which can found on the following website:
[URL="http://mobile.etechniker.com/"]http://mobile.etechniker.com/[/URL]
I am no developer but already tried to install different apps but with out success. Installing works very well but when you like to start the following error occurs:
"The file 'Contents Manager' can not be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file."
Moreover, today plugins and widgets can not be activated after installation. I already tried the new Samsung D3d drivers and Flash lite to install before I start the apps without any success.
Hope there is anybody else interested in porting Omnia apps to the X1 and can help with this issues.
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The thread starter wants it the other way around X1 --> Omnia.
OK If this is the way the thread is about lets delete is from the Xperia Rom section because it does not make any sence to spam rom section. We can start a new thread if anybody is interested in the topic Omnia Panel for X1.

Soon to be Touch Diamond Owner. Many questions..

Lets see where I should start. Well first this would not be my first windows mobile phone.. In the past year I have went from iphone>Sony Ericsson P1i>Palm Treo Pro>Sony Ericsson X1a>HTC Dream (Anroid G1)> Touch Diamond. I've always wanted the Touch Diamond when it first came, but i was scared to get it. As you can see all my previous devices have had a keyboard. The G1 has a lot of nice apps, friendly gui and very touch sensitive but it has no 3g for me since im in USA with ATT. As for the phone i am using right now the X1. I really like it alot but there are not too many developers out there cooking roms. I would like to give the touch diamond a try..
For those of you out there that do a lot of texting/Emailing/Im'ing please let me know what your experiences are like.
I have a question about the batt life. one of my main concern. Every phone i have had would last me about 2/4 to 3/4 of the day. I would have to charge the phone every chance i get. Do any of you guys use any im programs such as parlingo or im+?
What is the best im program out there for the phone? (i use to use agile messenger as i thought was one of the best. not sure if it would work on this device)
I would like to hear any x1 and touch diamond owners insights. (I would like to know how your browser experience is like with the 2 different device. *really important to me* I like how the iphone is really sensitive in scrolling and clicking of links. Is the touch diamond anything like that?)
I do kind of look forward to the accelerometer as the x1 does not have this feature.
lazytrax said:
Is the touch diamond anything like that?)
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No, it is not.
humm maybe i should wait for another device..
This guy has no clue what he is speaking about...
Palringo works very well on the phone.
With the correct ROM it's extremely quick, great battery life.
With all that being said, you're on ATT. Get the Fuze(touch pro). Has hardware keyboard, and a bit wider. Same software as HTC Diamond, same amount of ROMs(if not more). Plus, US 3G support.
I have diamond, used to have Kaiser.
made the switch because was using touchpal as default sip for texting emails ext. realized i barely ever slid out keyboard (unless someone else was going to use it)
so i would say try touchpal on one of your existing WM devices see if you can use it for more than a day without reverting to your slide out keyboard, maybe look into some other sips out there if you have something you like.
if you find you can't live without the hardware keyboard > Go for the touch pro
if you find maybe software is good enouph > Go diamond
Touchpal here : http://www.cootek.com/download.aspx
Browser is good (its opera 9.5 you can probably download it on another device and test it as well), its capatible with flash light so you can use it for flash content pages it isn't as fast or as smooth as iphone but it is REALLY close, has upto 3 tabs and the main benef is you get a full download manager so you can save whatever you want (eg. cab files from xda )
battery is decent, i usually get a day out of it but thats because i use it as a gameboy among other things. extended batteries are available ranging in from $7 - $80US but can take the diamond upto 3000mah
and finally with some quick tweaking you can get the screen sensetivity up (still won't be as good as iphone tho) and with TouchResponse you can enable hepatic feedback (vibrate on touch)
sweet thanks a lot for the mini review. i think i will try it on my x1 and see how that goes.

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