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anyone use this at all, from the time that i upgraded my rom, even when i first got my phone w/ the oem tilt rom, it has not worked. I changed the settings on my phone because initially the internet wasn't working, but not it works fine, i'm using palingro...but i at least want to try the oz because there are some things that bother me about it.
and by the way, i'm connecting using the att network, not wifi...as that is the first thing it says when its having trouble connecting. but honestly, no matter what i change in my phone, i'm still getting the "communication error. please try again or check your settings. IM is not supported over wi-fi connections" error.
any help/ideas?
gotten quite a few views, any input guys?
heya sim,
I use the OZ cab, both stock installed on the phone and installed with custom rom. I have experienced the situation you detail. It seems to happen when I close it down a way it didn't like or do something internet-wise with another program.
Fixing it usually only requires a quick turn off then turn on. It does get annoying sometimes when it happens.
Also I would like to add it doesn't seem very responsive as far as receiving messages goes either. Like sometimes I will get a message on my computer at roughly 12 in the afternoon and will not see it on the phone until after dinner. I have even had a couple experiences where I didn't receive messages until after the program had been restarted.
I will be trying another messaging program soon that doesn't use up messaging on my phone, this is part of what I believe makes it slow is the fact it uses messaging instead of internet.
any recommendations? / questions?
oh great...you mean to tell me that the oz messenger is sms based and not internet based? jeeze...i REALLY dont wanna pay for agile
yes this is what they told me at AT&T, There are a few out there that use internet via data connection (3g, hsdpa, etc.) agile being one of them...isnt it free tho? The same goes for Fring, and i believe IM+ you have to pay for but uses data connection aswell.
Yea, i use the OZ one, but only as a way of checking my current buddy lists in AIM and Yahoo. Its very unreliable for actually carrying a conversation. Also, its very clunky to use if you log into 2 or 3 messengers at once. One of the features about this phone that really made me want it (instant messaging on the go) has been pretty lackluster to me. I have yet to try any different messenger suites yet.
Ill let you both know for sure how the others work in comparison as I intend to try a couple other non sms bases ones
OZ messenger is LAME.. go to Palringo.com from your phone. Download it. Way better and its free push to talk built in.
you guys wont be disappointed with Palringo. You can have your AOL, Google Talk/Jabber, MSM messenger, yahoo. It signs in really quick about 2 seconds, gets all your friends, no drops in connection, Beautiful software and best of all its free.
gqstatus0685 said:
you guys wont be disappointed with Palringo. You can have your AOL, Google Talk/Jabber, MSM messenger, yahoo. It signs in really quick about 2 seconds, gets all your friends, no drops in connection, Beautiful software and best of all its free.
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mine ALWAYS drops my aim connection. i have no idea why. It keeps my google chat online constantly though, but not aim. anybody know of a sms based messenger for aim by any chance?
ok, i guess the problem w/ my messenger was the data package that i had with AT&T, now that i upgraded, i can sign on. only problem is, when i'm online...i'm not really online. it shows that all my buddys are off, when i check on another computer (different SN) if i'm on, its says i'm not. anyone know what the hell this is about? it seems like one problem after another w/ this....
plus i'm using the "OZ_Instant_Messanger_at_t_AKU_0.4.4" cab. thanx in advance
Agile
I have dumped Oz because it is slow to connect at times. At times it connects but it does not tell you so, that is you show up on a buddies computer but your phone still shows that it has not connected. Also, in this case if you quit the program, (stop it from memory) you are still logged on. Added to this is that you get charged for text messages!!
So, I have gone to Agile, which is data only. It connects fine too. It is pricey but it does the job. I am using it on a Treo 750. My service is At&T. It also does PTT etc.
AIM
The AIM client also uses data only and not SMS. So if you do not need the other message servers like Yahoo or MSN or Google etc. then AIM might be a good option. You can find it on this forum.
I had been using the OZ client on a trip earlier this month for the first time - did not care for the SMS integration of it at all. Every time a reply would come in you'd get a system SMS message. I've just installed the Palringo client listed above and it seems to work very well. Thanks for the heads up.
I use slick it's easy and free
yea wish i had read this thread prior to sending those 100 sms messeages at .15 cents each. Wait employee discount! oh **** not for sms. hahaha
gdit at&t!!
gonna check out one of these two you guys mentioned, that oz one does suck
and i have unimited data only.
I really wish I read this before paying for IM+. I like their service but have had a lot of problems lately when I flash roms constantly. Crap like always having to put in my resistration and then saying that my registration number is being used. I would understand if I stole the software but I paid good money for it.
I tried aglie and really like the GUI, but I'm not in the mood to spend that much money for another program.
I just downloaded palringo and from first impression really like it. The only thing I don't like is that it won't keep my always connected. Battery isn't an issue and neither is data.
I hear that. Im waiting and watching for something better.
BTW super rocks!
How about Fring?
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I hear that. Im waiting and watching for something better.
I've had great luck with fring... Use it and if you twitter it has a built in twitter interface that's outside of the normal IM integration, it's pretty slick.
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I use slick it's easy and free
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same here.. been using it since i first bought my tilt and no complaints to day
So I was sitting in class hoping to fire up Slingplayer on my stock AT&T Tilt and see what was on TV at home but no dice. Then on the way to the car I tried firing up Google Maps and again, no dice. Neither app seemed to think I was connected. Then when I got home (I live down the street from school) I tried sending & receiving my POP & IMAP accounts and again, nothing. However, this whole time, I have been able to get online with PIE just fine. I can browse to whichever web site I choose. Oh, and I tried using Opera and it wouldn't work, either! I'm really confused. And to top it off I just tried the wife's Blackjack and it is having the same exact problems. I know this may be the wrong forum for this but does anyone know what might be going on behind the scenes??
Having the same problem here in Sacramento. It started sometime late this afternoon for me. PIE works just fine but nothing else can connect to the Internet - Live Search, Google maps, Opera mini, RSS Hub, etc.
Same thing just happened to mine and my wife's tilts, simultaneously. PIE works, nothing else can connect to the Internet.. Not Opera, not Garmin XT, not HTC weather, nothing. WTF? Has AT&T done something? BTW, I'm in Portland, Oregon.
Having zero luck getting online here as well, was working at 6:30P in Seattle, and no connection (incl PIE) now...Just updated my ROM so having a network outage actually is a better outcome than self-inflicted phone bricking Any ATT page on network availability or anything?
I am down in Los Angeles, and am also not able to download any data on neither 3G nor Edge since late Tuesday (Feb 5, 2008) afternoon.
Same here except I can't get online at all with any program... maybe a problem with ATT network?
yeah i just experienced this today as well. I can only get online with the proxy settings, but when i disable it, its a no go! dammnit, and i cant do slingplayer with the proxy settings! I think its definitely an att network issue!
Mine's down in San Diego. At least it isn't just me... or is that not a good thing?
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Mine's down in San Diego. At least it isn't just me... or is that not a good thing?
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curiuos, what data plan do you have??
Could this be an attempt by ATT to prevent Internet sharing and force us to pay for tethering? If PIE still works, but everything else has dropped dead, is that a deliberate change by ATT? Anyone know enough to know if that's possible?
They are probably redirecting somethings to open of the connection ways. I have been having problems, but with a few apps I can run opera and Windows live but not resco update or resco radio or skype and some others. I was having major problems last night with connection problems, it was jumping from no service to Edge to G.
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Could this be an attempt by ATT to prevent Internet sharing and force us to pay for tethering? If PIE still works, but everything else has dropped dead, is that a deliberate change by ATT? Anyone know enough to know if that's possible?
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well, thats what im trying to troubleshoot now, Ive notice that im only able to get on when im connected thru att's proxy setting, but when i disable it, i cant get on at all. I have the mediawork data plan, so i wanna see if they are forcing people with a non pda plan to go thru the proxy to be connected!
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They are probably redirecting somethings to open of the connection ways. I have been having problems, but with a few apps I can run opera and Windows live but not resco update or resco radio or skype and some others. I was having major problems last night with connection problems, it was jumping from no service to Edge to G.
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what data plan do you have tito???
This one:http://www.wireless.att.com/cell-ph...jsp?LOSGId=&skuId=sku1160058&catId=cat1360001
Why?
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I have the mediawork data plan, so i wanna see if they are forcing people with a non pda plan to go thru the proxy to be connected!
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I have the PDA Personal plan, but always disabled (unchecked) the proxy server option. I do not know the proxy server address, so I cannot test if my data download is restored if the proxy server option is enabled.
In case anyone's wondering I have the PDA Unlimited plans w/ 1500 text messages on both my Tilt & Blackjack. Haven't changed any settings yet and to be honest I'm too lazy to try and mess with it at the moment...
My plan is PDA personal. (Unlimited data) I don't think I have any proxys set. ( I soft reset after initial setup before the ATT customizations installed.) Everything worked great until our two tilts stopped accessing the internet simultaneously this evening. Except of course for PIE, which still works fine on both devices.
What is the proxy server setting for ATT...mine is off as well, and have never played with it to turn it on or off before...
Unlike the rest of you, Pocket Internet Explorer does not go online for me.
I have the settings in my Signature if anyone hasn't looked. Why whats so big about my data plan princeasi?
I'm not sure what it is, but for some reason some of the programs are not connecting to the internet on my tilt. i'm running the q-mobile tilt rom, and the only thing that is connecting to the medianet is palringo. i can't access the new w/ windows live or internet explorer. any idea what it could be?
no ideas from anyone...i know they're a boat load of phone-tech savy people here, someone has to have some kind of idea?
simbadogg said:
no ideas from anyone...i know they're a boat load of phone-tech savy people here, someone has to have some kind of idea?
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Hi dude
more info plz!! I didn't well undertand your problem!
Are you trying to connect by your Pravider Data Connection (GPRS/HSDPA) or by WiFi??!!
sorry, i guess i didn't say that. i did say medianet, but i sure have been a little more concise. but yes, i'm trying to connect through att wireless medianet. the weird thing is, i am connected because i am able to go online with palringo and talk w/ contacts on aim, but IE doesn't work, windows live doesn't work either. i went through and changed some of the settings in media net per attwireless support forum, i'm looking for the proxy cab to download as it isn't on my phone, this could be the fix for it...but i highly doubt it because the internet was working on my phone just fine for the first week or so after i installed my ROM. now it just wont connect anymore, and i know i didn't do anything except uninstall solitaire and a few other games
ok...not much progress, but i guess this is a start. instead of getting an error message when i try to open a page w/ IE, in the status bar it says "Locating..." "Opening...", "0 Kb"...then it just stops, and nothing loads up. I'm stumped
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sorry, i guess i didn't say that. i did say medianet, but i sure have been a little more concise. but yes, i'm trying to connect through att wireless medianet. the weird thing is, i am connected because i am able to go online with palringo and talk w/ contacts on aim, but IE doesn't work, windows live doesn't work either. i went through and changed some of the settings in media net per attwireless support forum, i'm looking for the proxy cab to download as it isn't on my phone, this could be the fix for it...but i highly doubt it because the internet was working on my phone just fine for the first week or so after i installed my ROM. now it just wont connect anymore, and i know i didn't do anything except uninstall solitaire and a few other games
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First of all sorry, but i'm not American, so correct me if i'm wrong: "ATT Wireless" is your Phone Provider, right? and you are trying to connect to internet using the Provider Data Connection and not Wi-Fi, e.g. through your home router (Wi-Fi = Wireless but not "ATT Wireless", names coincidence!!! ), right? if this is correct, you didn't answer me to the above-mentioned question (using Provider Data or Wi-Fi??)!!
So try to set this Windows options:
Settings -> Connections Tab -> Connections -> Advanced Tab -> Networks Selection -> than select in the two options your Internet Provider service, more ,if you need, under the both tweak keys you can edit it, like proxy settings!
Hope to well undertand your problem!
Umm...i did answer your question, i did say it was attwireless. I'm guessing you're not familiar with NA cell phone providers, which i'm sorry we missed, but i did answer the question. No need for the rolling of eyes. But yes, as i said in some posts earlier, i did change those settings already as per the attwireless support forum on their website. But its still not working.
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Umm...i did answer your question, i did say it was attwireless. I'm guessing you're not familiar with NA cell phone providers, which i'm sorry we missed, but i did answer the question. No need for the rolling of eyes. But yes, as i said in some posts earlier, i did change those settings already as per the attwireless support forum on their website. But its still not working.
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...ok, we misunderstanding, or better,i didn't well understand you!
However give a look here , maybe it helps you!
Ciao
its ok, no problem at all. thanx for the link but that didnt' work either.i really dont know whats going on with my phone, the internet worked flawlessly for the first 2 weeks i had my phone, then it just stopped working yesterday. well, it stopped working for every other program except for palringo, and i'm almost certain that it is not sms based, so i dont understand why that would work, and not other programs.
UPDATE:
ok, so i tried using the media new gprs connection with my 8125, same situation. i'm not sure what on earth it could be, but w/e it is, i can use palingro and aim pocket pc on my tilt, but i just can't get any data from web or anything else. go figure. i think i'm just gonna let give it up for the day, i've been working on it for 8 hours. maybe take a look at it again this weekend, i dont HAVE to have the net until monday, but even then i can still use wifi until i get this sorted out.
ok, so it looks like just about everything is working now on my phone except internet explorer while connected to the AT&T wireless EDGE/3G connection. I can download the maps while connected to Windows Live GPS, i'm able to sign on and chat while using agile messenger, i can download emails on the go with my outlook mailbox.
The only thing that is giving me a problem still is internet explorer/opera mobile. Anytime i type in a page it says "locating...", "opening..." "0 KB" while using IE then it just stops there and doesn't load a thing, and when using opera is says no connection detected. Anybody know what this could be? I dont see anywhere in IE or opera where you can change browser settings as far as connectivity...
very similar problem
Hi,
I'm having a very similar problem. I have an HTC TYTN II unlocked. It has worked beautifully for a couple of months and suddenly PIE would not work. It says Connecting...Locating...Opening and then hangs in there for a while until it error outs with "the connection has been lost"
I'm on T-Mobile full internet plan. The ROM is original stock ROM (UK). Curiously, the "push" emails continues to work, but PIE does not. I can't login to Live messenger either.
I have reset the phone to factory settings to no avail. I have called T-Mobile and they say my account is okay.
Any idea? This is really weird.
Any help would be greatly appreciated.
elkavayo, where are you located? I am having the same problem today & I am in south florida. I just got off the phone with a T-Mobile tech & he tried something and said it appeared to be a network problem - not a phone issue. Wi-fi is working fine.
weebo523
I'm located in South Florida too, Miami to be precise. Those were my thoughts initially, but I called T-Mobile and they told me that there were no outages or network problems. This has been happening to me since Wednesday 8:00 AM.
Additionally, I swap SIMs with a friend, who also have T-Mobile, and configured his phone (HTC Touch unlocked) to use T-Mo full internet and it worked on his phone with my account!
My wide and daughter (Dash and T-Mo SDA) can also connect to thye net normally with their phones, so I don't think it is the service. Mine doesn't work with neither full nor T-zones. It does work with Wi-Fi though.
The mystery continues... thanksfor sharing your story. Hopefully we'll find a "cure" soon. I've beenthinking about "upgrading" to 6.1.....
i have the same problem with an unlocked Tilt running on my Rogers network.
all my messaging apps work but not Internet Explorer.
I'm in Fort Lauderdale and just had the same problem .. I have TWO 8525's (TyTn) on T-Mobile and also a Wing with T-Mobile, whats weird, is that both 8525's are having the problem, whereas the Wing is working fine.
There is definately an issue right now with South Florida and t-mobile.
elkavayo & vr24, this is strange. It seems to be happening exclusively to the Tilt / TyTn & in South Florida with one Rogers. And it seems like very few of us have the problem. I am usually pretty good at trouble shooting but this has me stumped.
totally, I have tried tons of settings, everything I can come up with, used their Data Configurator, I've tried 3 different ROMs, including Win Mo 6.1, and even on the TyTn forum, people with the 8525 in other parts of the country aren't having the issue.
It's really messed up, and as I said, my Wing works fine, lol... but I want my TyTn as the wing is having other malfunctions. the only problem is, how can you argue it's the network when one phone works and the other doesn't. there is SOMETHING that changed on the network though that is not accepting something with the tytn, in just our area, lol.. obviously. Just no idea what it is.
vr24 - at least you saved me the trouble of trying different ROMs, which I was just about to do I did try going to a backup with no luck. Do you think that something could have gone bad in the phone that connects us through GPRS?
I guess I will have to sleep on this for now. Hope you or someone figures this out while I'm sleeping - VBG
Lol... don't count on me too much to figure this one out. It's quite the nightmare really. And it's a shame. I just purchased my 2 Hermes and was thrilled to have them and they were working, now I have very expensive bricks basically!!!
Anyways, help would be awesome to anyone out there willing to continue troubleshooting this.
Well I have some "good" news... I'll be heading from Fort Lauderdale to Los Angeles this coming Wednesday, if we don't get it sorted out by then, and this magically works on the West Coast, I'm jam t-mobiles balls into a vice grip until they fix it. I'm REAL curious to see if it makes any difference.
Im a new owner of a MDA Vario III from T-mobile and for the first month of my contract iv got an unlimited data plan. However, this runs out in a couple of weeks and i wont be re-subscribing to it.
Currently my phone connects to the t-mobile internet very often, for e-mails, weather, MSN etc when i dont want it to. Is there any way of making my phone ask for confirmation before connecting to the internet?
Also, when im in a wi-fi hot spot (am at university, so most days) is there any way of making it auto-connect to it and download everything then?
thanks guys
you can use KaiserTweak or Advanced Configuration to change the settings of how they connect. and no there is no way to get the WiFi to pop up like that unless it is running constantly which would be a major battery drain.
Damn KDKobes you beat me to the post while I was refreshing
hey how come iwasn't told that we are having a posting contest ?
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hey how come iwasn't told that we are having a posting contest ?
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Because Threes a crowd
I have been going into all the post i can for about an hour now to help only to find out that I have been beaten to the punch everytime lol
hey whats up everyone. i just had a really quick question.
so ive had my tilt for about a year now and i love this phone. i didnt get the plan since im on my parents plan. so i dont have the unlimited data or anything. and ive been using the modaco program to prevent unwanted data usage on my phone since im not on the plan. and i only connect to the internet using my home wifi or the wifi at work or school.
my question is installed the touchflo 2d beta on my phone and i just got curious as to trying to use the cool little email feature. and so i set up my gmail. and i was wondering if this is strictly data and not text? i dont have a text plan on my phone. so im hoping that someone can let me know if this uses data or text to show up on my touchflo 2d home screen.
sorry im sure this is a pretty dumb question. but any answers to this question will help me out. i just dont want a ridiculous text fee at the end of the month lol. thanks everyone.
Hello deehrockz,
By text, you mean sms, right? If so, then the answer about using Gmail using text is no. In pocket outlook, it should only use the Internet, so you should be safe so long as you stick to Wi-Fi hotspots. Hope that answers your question,
Dave