Hi,
a few days ago i wrote on this forum that i had been able to install an italian ROM on a G4, CID-Locked Wizard. Since then, i've received several mails and PM from users asking me how i did. Instead of replying each one, i though it was better to write a tutorial and post it here for everyone to read/comment/correct it.
Here it is. Together with the tools you'll need to perform the update.
PS: in this tutorial i'm not explaining how to CID-UNlock a G4 or G3 (>= 2.21) phone. There is not yet a way to CID unlock these phones. I'm just describing how to circumvent the CID-lock problem by installing a ROM deprived of the IPL and SPL parts.
DISCLAIMER: THE PROCEDURE I’M GOING TO EXPLAIN DEALS WITH ROM ‘COOKING’ AND THUS IT MAY CAUSE SEVERE DATA LOSS OR EVEN IRREMEDIABLY DAMAGE YOUR DEVICE!
THE AUTHOR, NOR EVERY OTHER PERSON INVOLVED (E.G. THE ROM TOOLS DEVELOPERS), SHALL NOT BE HELD RESPONSIBLE FOR ANY MALFUNCTIONS OR DAMAGES THIS PROCEDURE MAY CAUSE.
By following this tutorial, you're removing both the bootloaders (IPL and SPL) from a rom of your choice. This means that, if you don't make errors while 'cooking' the rom, you cannot completely destroy (brick) your phone. Sure, you could end up with a non-booting rom but, as long as you can get to the three colors screen (the bootloader screen) you'll always be able to install a different (or your previous) working rom.
On the other hand, messing with IPL and SPL (i.e. installing a rom containing IPL and SPL in a CID locked device) is EXTREMELY DANGEROUS and MUST be avoided in most cases!!!
Installing a 2.xx rom without messing with your phone's IPL and SPL is exactly what this tutorial tries to explain.
NEVER INSTALL ROMS OR FOLLOW TUTORIALS IF YOU'RE NOT SURE OF WHAT YOU'RE DOING!!!
ALWAYS ASK BEFORE PROCEEDING! A SIMPLE QUESTION MAY SAVE YOUR PHONE FROM DEATH!
Worked perfect!
Thank you very much for the clear explanation!!! 8)
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
squarna said:
HI,
Have I to introduce on nb2nbf SW the ITA language without CID??
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Leave the CID field empty and specify the language you're installing (ITA for italian, WWE for english).
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
squarna said:
Hi,
I have installed this SW on my MDA T-mobile:
IPL:2.21.0001
SPL:2.21.0001
GSM:2.19.11
OS:2.21.2.6
EXROM:2.21.2.109
What is the best Italian ROM to flash inside?
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This is quite Off Topic here, anyway you can use K-Jam 2.18 italian ROM (find it here: ftp://ftp.clubimate.com/K-JAM_ITA_2180901_21809104_20710_ship.zip)
German to WWE
Worked perfect, no glitches! Thanks for the help!
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
So is there any issues with using a mismatched ipl/spl bootloader on my G4 equipped O2 mini S?
I really want to install Mr. Clean's Clean ROM, but i am afraid of bricking it.
I have done ROm upgrades before by CID unlocking my old Qtek9100 G3 (but my foolish friend dropped it into a cup of coffeee and killed it).
I will admit, the Mr. CLean Rom was WAY faster than my OE 2.21 ROm on my O2.
Is there anyway to go back and uninstall? Ie. download rom from O2 website to restore it?
REgards,
ED
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You CAN install MrClean AKU2.3 ROM BUT only if you first modify it following my guide: you cannot touch the IPL/SPL parts!!!
There are two reasons for not installing the original, unmodified MrClean ROM:
1) G4 phones cannot be CID unlocked. This means that you can replace their original IPL/SPL ONLY with a newer version made by the very same operator: e.g. if you have a 2.21 WWE T-mobile ROM then you can ONLY update this rom with a version > 2.21 made by T-mobile!!! You CANNOT use any other language nor any other operator's ROMs (cingular's, qtek's, etc).
2) MrClean ROM, as all the other home made ROMs you'll find in this forum, can be installed ONLY in G3 models because it contains only IPL and SPL version 1.0 (G4 phones need version 2.0)
Basically then, you have only 3 choices:
a) Follow my tutorial and be able to install every 2.x ROM you like (both stock ROMs and home made ones, every language, every operator). The only limitation is that you cannot install 1.x ROMs!
b) Install ONLY ROMs that are the OFFICIAL update to the one you have currently installed (e.g. if you have cingular 2.25 WWE rom then you'll be able to update it only when and if, a new, official, wwe, cingular ROM will be released). You won't be able to install a different language ROM nor a ROM made by a different operator, nor a home made ROM (like MrClean).
c) you can CID unlock your G4 wizard using some online service but: it will cost you money and you won't still be able to install home-made ROM 'cos they contain only IPL/SPL version 1.0 (you'll still need IPL/SPL version 2.0)
That said, i strongly suggest you solution (a)! It's free, it's very simple (it may seem complex but after the first time it'll be straight forward), it's the safest (because you don't replace the boot loader IPL and SPL) and it let you install whichever 2.x ROM you like!
Bye
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minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
bye
Thank you risidoro!! I was regretting getting my O2 miniS G4, in place of my broken Qtek 9100 G3.
I will give it a shot tonight. I noticed that the 2.24 ROM was much faster when I used it on my Qtek, over any other ROM.
Regards
risidoro said:
minirx7 said:
Thank you risidoro,
Yes, i do realize the G4 IPL/SPL must not be altered to prevent from bricking the device.
I will try the Mr. Clean ROM tonight using your tutorial. I guess my only question is, will there be an issue using a 2.21 G4 IPL SPL on a 2.24ROM?
DOes the bootloader actual change with new ROMS?
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Bootloader and ROM version numbers usually are the same (so ROM 2.24 should have IPL/SPL 2.24) but they can be different. I've used IPL/SPL 2.21.001 with both 2.18 and 2.24 ROMs.
Maybe newer ROMs, greater than 2.24, will require an updated IPL/SPL so you'll be obliged to CID unlock your phone. By then however, i hope there'll be a free CID unlocking tool for G4.
bye
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THANK YOU THANK YOU!!!
I HAVE SUCCESSFULLY INSTALLED MR. CLEAN 2.24A ON MY G4 DEVICE!!!!
THe ROM is so much faster and smoother than the OE 2.21 ROM!!! tahnks again!
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
jeegnesh said:
risidoro did you SIM unlock your G4 phone ? If yes what tool and version did you use to do that ?
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My two phones were both factory simunlocked but i heard that some people is successfully using LokiwizMSL 0.3a to sim unlock G4 wizards.
Just follow the author's instruction. The procedure is staightforward.
Find it here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=50768&highlight=lokiwiz
Bye
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
jeegnesh said:
Thanks for the superfast reply, actually waiting for someone to get me this phone, hopefully this week, wil try it out once I get it.
Using Clean ROM, does it just improve startup time, or does it improve performace of the phone in general ?
Do you have to re-install software after ROM update ?
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Upgrading the OS part of a ROM cause your phone to hard reset, so yes, you'll have to reinstall everything. If, on the other hand, you upgrade any other part (GSM, Splash, ExtROM, HTC) but not the OS then you won't loose your data.
MrClean ROM and Summitter's ROM are both very fast. The latter contains cingular's customizations in extROM (they don't slow down the phone, they're mainly registry settings), some ringtones and compact framework 2.0 in ROM. If you're not a cingular user then i suggest you take the OS part from summitter's rom and the extrom from the MrClean. Then join the two parts with nb2nbf and flash to your device.
Bye
Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
jeegnesh said:
Any reason to take Summitter's OS is it faster or something then Mr Clean ?
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No. Both summitter and mrclean use the same OS ROM (2.24.10 AKU2.3) hence they have the SAME, IDENTICAL speed.
The difference is that Summitter manually edited the original ROM and added a lot of ringtones, themes and, most important, the .net compact framework 2.0. If you install Summitter OS, then, you'll have the same mrclean basic OS plus a lot of goodies that don't take any space in storage since they're in ROM (compact framework 2.0 alone would take about 5mb of your precious storage if you installed it on mrclean).
bye
This thread needs to be a sticky!!
is there anyway to "shelltools" flash my radio rom? I've been missing a lot of calls lately and it really is becoming inconvenient. I havent unlocked my phone, but i am running wm6 using shelltools (mfrazzz's stuff) and i was wondering do i even need to have my phone unlocked to flash my radio? i dont want to lose my warranty so thats why this matters to me. Any ideas guys?
You may get the official (in your case, T-Mobile, I guess) ROM to flash your phone with the full set of WM5 ROM (e.g. IPL, SPL, OS and Radio). As you are using the official ROM, you do not have to CID-unlock your phone prior flashing this official ROM. After that, you may then use shelltool to update/upgrade/flash the WM6 in, while the radio is untouched (e.g. still using the one you've flashed with the official ROM).
i thin i have done what you said already. Before i flashed mfrazzz's wm6 rom i flashed the latest tmobile rom, then i proceeded to flash the wm6 rom. I didnt use shelltools to flash the official tmobile rom obviosuly, but i did use shelltools to flash mrazzz's wm6 rom.
these are my things from what i'm using now:
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
Flash the t-mobile uk radio rom 2.19.11.. that'll work for u.
ur OS is wrong if ur running wm6...
2.18 is Crossbow Reloaded... or Faria's..
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Flash the t-mobile uk radio rom 2.19.11.. that'll work for u.
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can i just flash that right now without being unlocked? i'm in boston, does that matter? lol
Madcap180 said:
2.18 is Crossbow Reloaded... or Faria's..
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oh, my bad then lol.
and yes u can change ur radio without being unlocked
ok thanks guys for all the help, but i still have a couple small questions
first, in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=253609&page=4
(post #34) he says that if you dont cid unlock before applying the radio rom you will brick the phone.
next im looking for that uk rom, but i really cant find it, can anyone point me in the right place? and even though im in the US it will still work right?
thank you guys so much! i really aappreciate it
There you go
jawnsixteen said:
ok thanks guys for all the help, but i still have a couple small questions
first, in this post http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=253609&page=4
(post #34) he says that if you dont cid unlock before applying the radio rom you will brick the phone.
next im looking for that uk rom, but i really cant find it, can anyone point me in the right place? and even though im in the US it will still work right?
thank you guys so much! i really aappreciate it
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I have flashed my RADIO ONLY several times with no consequences for my CID LOCKED G4 Wizard, here´s the link for the RADIO ONLY
ftp://xda:[email protected]_Thread/T-Mobile-UK_2.19.11_Radio_Only.zip
You have flashed RADIO only on you G4? HOW? I am having the following problem:
I had to flash a T-Mobile German ROM to use the shelltool for the latest WM6 ROM, it worked but unforunately I have got Radio 2.69 and IPL 3.08.XXX1. (from the latest official MDA Vario ROM flash before)
After the Hardreset everything went fine - I've got WM6, but after i had changed the Clock settings and restarted my device i simply have NO SIGNAL anymore. I am currently in australia maybe thats the reason???
I tried to install the offical T-Mobile AKU 2.0, but the RUU shows me error 296 as I have installed a later ROM AKU3.3 bevor my WM6 flash.
Which tools have y used? And how is the procedure?
Cheers!!!
irm
4irm said:
You have flashed RADIO only on you G4? HOW? I am having the following problem:
I had to flash a T-Mobile German ROM to use the shelltool for the latest WM6 ROM, it worked but unforunately I have got Radio 2.69 and IPL 3.08.XXX1. (from the latest official MDA Vario ROM flash before)
After the Hardreset everything went fine - I've got WM6, but after i had changed the Clock settings and restarted my device i simply have NO SIGNAL anymore. I am currently in australia maybe thats the reason???
I tried to install the offical T-Mobile AKU 2.0, but the RUU shows me error 296 as I have installed a later ROM AKU3.3 bevor my WM6 flash.
Which tools have y used? And how is the procedure?
Cheers!!!
irm
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No, we can´t flash a ROM with bootloader other than the one you have if you have a G4 CID locked device. Unless you use a RUU with no ID (see next paragraph) and the nb.nkf file lacks of IPL/SPL, such is the case of the Wizard Love which I use before to flash any other ROM with the Shell Tool.
Read post #2 of this thread
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=310954
Read carefully where talks about Splash Screens and Splash Only RUU for G4, same procedure for splash screen applies to RADIO. This doesn´t work for OS, for OS you have to use Shell Tool.
Good luck!
My brother bought for me X1 from Leipzig Germany its factory unlocked and has no branding. But it has windows in German.
My question is can I flash english rom vithout any spl unlocking?
and if yes please give me link which english wwe rom can flashed to my device.
I have experience with Elfin and Elfin was bought from china has chinese wm so I used wwe elfin rom and directly without unlocking it flashed.
So is there any chance that I can have englisj X1 rom original not cooked that can drieclty flash to my device?
You will need to flash HardSPL for X1 first (it's sticky on this forum), then you can flash UK rom. Remember that German version of X1 have qwertz keyboard, so if you will flash UK rom then some keys will have another function then they show.
But after that hardspl when I will change to UK can I go directly SEUS to recoknized my phone as UK phone and update via website? So if somebody have experience flashed German rom to UK generic and after that tested SEUS service please share here the results.
Can somebody give me link for UK Generic non customized rom I found on forum but it says at then begingn of link Customized UK I need original genereic UK rom please help me to find also if you tell me how to dump my rom I can dume German Generic rom for share with forum
When you've done HARDSPL you can use the SE update service
Thannks for info Fards
One more question I have conected with SPL things.
I have experience workign with HTC TOUCH XL USPL tool and flashed lot of roms with that tool but in HTC any time you need to flash another rom you should use USPL tool and then at some stage start RUU and flash your rom.
also if you stack in bootloader or in other stage you can always recover your phone using RUU and your device default rom.
Is this possible in X1?
Lets say I have German Genereic rom deivce I want to flash to UK rom direclty without any SPL tools and stucked in some stage with error. Can I use Kovski RUU and German Genereic rom (which is the my device's defalut rom) and recover from that stage?
Thanks in advance
ITMASTER said:
Thannks for info Fards
One more question I have conected with SPL things.
I have experience workign with HTC TOUCH XL USPL tool and flashed lot of roms with that tool but in HTC any time you need to flash another rom you should use USPL tool and then at some stage start RUU and flash your rom.
also if you stack in bootloader or in other stage you can always recover your phone using RUU and your device default rom.
Is this possible in X1?
Lets say I have German Genereic rom deivce I want to flash to UK rom direclty without any SPL tools and stucked in some stage with error. Can I use Kovski RUU and German Genereic rom (which is the my device's defalut rom) and recover from that stage?
Thanks in advance
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You should be able to yes, obviously make sure you've done hardspl before going to the UK rom.
The SEUS uses RUU to flash the rom.
If you have your own rom (such as stock german one) then it's much much easier to flash from the SD card. Jack did a decent walkthrough of that.. but just rename the file to KOVSimg.nbh and go into bootloader (volume down and reset at the same time).
is USPL available for the X1?? or its just the HD?
USPL is not available for Xperia... would be cool if it is made available at some point, though I've already flashed HardSPL!