I had my Touch Diamond for about a week now and with the help of this forum, this thing really rocks! I do have a problem that I cant find an answer to though.
When installing CAB files I get the choice to store in Device or Internal Storage. This seems to be very hit and miss for me even when I have choosen to have files installed into Internal Storage, they sometimess install into the Device directory "Program Files". Looks like this directory was created to handle some of the Sprint default program like, NAV and TV.
I'm using ActiveSync to transfer the CAB's from computer to the Internal Storage for installation and I'm using the stock Sprint ROM. I'm starting to run out of storage space in the Device due to this problem, any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
G.T.
some .cabs install files into the device storage regardless of what you choose because some need system files located with all the others. What programs have you installed?
Hi AD,
Files pre-installed in Sprint ROM in Device>Program Files
Connections>Mail Attachements (looks like this directory is 0 bytes, so I assume its safe to delete)
RSS Hub
Sprint TV
TeleNav
Windows Media with sub directories Default (Portrait), Default (Landscape)
Files I have installed that are in Device>Program Files
Diamon TF3D Config
S2P
Second Today
Today Agenda
SKKV (G Sensor Calibration)
Oddly enough Opera was also there, but I was having problems with emai/text messages associating with IE instead of Opera so I re-installed the Opera Cab and it no longer shows in Device>Program files
I was told that Sprint TV and TeleNav could be installed into the device storage (the CAB's are in the Windows directory) but I don't see a uninstall option under Remove Programs or Settings?
Thanks
GT
Hi all, I have the same issue
all the softwares I have installed using cab directly from the diamond, aven I have choose the Internal Storage are installed on the main memory.
Else, the installation I launched under windows (Reso programs) are well installed on the internat storage .....
Hmm those cab's you have installed if i remember correctly have to be installed into the device memory, try somethign like a game or a freeware app and see if you have an option of where to install it
Related
Free up storage:
-why
-how (simple)
-how (using utilities)
-how (advanced)
WHY
-The less files in storage, the faster your device
-Your storage is almost full and you want to install more
-summed up: your XDA is a mess and needs a good cleaning
-I believe the RAMdisk is faster than NAND ROM where storage is located
-Even the slowest SD card hardly shows any slowdown on most program starts
HOW simple
-Go to ActiveSync on your desktop PC
-Go to Tools>Add/remove software
-In Add/Remove Software uncheck "Install program into default installation folder"
-In the installed programs list uncheck a program
-Take a (mental) note of "Space available on device"
-Click OK
-Ask yourself if you really need it
-If so, check that program again
-Click OK
-Follow instructions on XDA, select \RAMdisk or \Storage Card as install path
-Check "Space available on device"
-Be happy
-Continue with the rest of the installed software in the same way
-Some programs refuse to follow your orders, most will move out of the way
HOW using utilities
There are two utilities that I know of that are able to transfer some of the files in your storage to RAMdisk or Storage Card, both commercial:
Wizcode Pocket Mechanic
SKTools
I'm not a fan of either of these. SKtools was only able to relocate 1.5MB of files that I could have easilly moved manually on a total mess that allowed much better results. Pocket Mechanic moved so much more that after a soft reset my today screen was as clean as a whisle, none of my today plugins loaded... OTOH both do have a lot of other neat tricks up their sleeves.
A neat little tool is System Path from http://www.geocities.co.jp/SiliconValley-Cupertino/2039/
Watch out, perhaps well documented but only in Japanese. Tips: unzip, place in \Windows, soft reset, find applet in Settings\system\system path. And never uncheck \Windows, just ADD seach paths.
There are lots of other nice tools on that page...
HOW advanced
-Copy files to their new location
-Edit their shortcuts
-Export all related registry keys, then edit them to the new path
-Rename the original files (I always add tmp to the extensions)
-Test if they work from the new locations
-If so, remove the original files
-If not, check if there are for example .cfg, .ini or other settings files you should edit
-Always use an editor for this that can handle both ASCII and Unicode!
-Have courage, luck and enough time
-Think first, blooper next...
Really appreciate your tips.
On your guide using AS to check the memory, do you mean by unchecking, the space available will change accordingly? I did not see that.
The problem is I don't install most programs on device storage but on SD card. Now cannot really decide where the programs are residing except by look at the "Program Files" in both Storage and SD Card to decide.
System Path is interesting. I will be trying it out.
Not just by unchecking, but by uninstalling programs that were first installed with default path on, then reinstalling with default path off. Of course if all your software is already on RAMdisk or Storage card to begin with, you won't notice a change because nothing changes. This thread is for people who 've used a lot of EXE installers with default path on, they run into lack of Storage and often have no idea how to solve it.
Disadvantage
A big disadvantage when you install your programs in ramdisk:
When your battery runs flat, you loose everything on the ramdisk. Ramdisk is only persistant when doing a hard reset and NOT by an empty battery.
mach2005 said:
A big disadvantage when you install your programs in ramdisk:
When your battery runs flat, you loose everything on the ramdisk. Ramdisk is only persistant when doing a hard reset and NOT by an empty battery.
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That sounds fair, RAM needs some power to keep its contents. But I've drained my main battery several times willingly for test purposes without loosing a single bit on RAMdisk. Obviously it needs just the backup battery. I never drained that. But I do keep a copy of my RAMdisk on my PC and advice all to follow that advice. MOBsync makes this even easier than ActiveSync.
Hi,
i cant seem to be able uncheck the box (its not available- blanked out) ..
Most of my softwares is installed in RAMDISK and storage card except for must be in storage utilies. Yet my storage space is almost full ... i cant account for it.
I am using activesync 4.5 build 5096
Where did you install the programs/applications from? Did you put .cab files in your /temp folder? If this is the case, with most if not all .cab files you can delete them after installing the program. They can take up a fair bit of room. Cheers.
mantd said:
i cant seem to be able uncheck the box (its not available- blanked out) ..
Most of my softwares is installed in RAMDISK and storage card except for must be in storage utilies. Yet my storage space is almost full ... i cant account for it.
I am using activesync 4.5 build 5096
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Did you expand your RAMdisk size? see http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332215
Your activesync version should have no effect on the available storage.
Hi Maggy,
Yeah, i did.. I managed to recover 3mb + by deleting and reinstalling back some of my apps. Thanks for the tips.
I am using c_shekar WM6 AKU7.
This is my current memory config:-
Storage
Total 30.53 Mb,
In Use 26.08 Mb,
Free 4.45Mb
Programs
Total 61.28Mb,
In use 28.18,
Free 33.10
Is it normal for the storage to grow even when programs are installed in SD or Ramdisk ? Anyway to know which files were installed and where ? Then it would be easier to move it somewhere else
-mantd
All installed programs put some lines in registry, so that grows. Lots of programs create garbage in registry and often do not clean up after uninstall.
Programs that need dll's will place them in \windows, all installed programs create shortcuts (.lnk) in \windows\start menu\programs. All of this adds up to Storage In Use.
Most programs install either in \Program Files or \RAMdisk\Program Files or \Storage Card\Program Files. Often in their own subfolder. If not, then read their shortcuts to find them.
At initial installation most programs, especially those with PC exe install, will install in Storage even if you click RAMdisk or Storage Card. Today plugins have more or less valid reasons to do so, otherwise it's just plain stupid and annoying. Lots of cab installers have the same behaviour but cab's can be edited to change this behaviour (not all). By running PC exe installers without your device connected it will create a folder C:\Windows\Program Files\[app-to-install] which will most likely contain a cab...
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"There are two utilities that I know of that are able to transfer some of the files in your storage to RAMdisk or Storage Card, both commercial:
Wizcode Pocket Mechanic
SKTools"
Found that tiny tool:
MobileAppMover
It´s freeware.
First search - than search and overwrite.
The site from the developper of MobileAppMover
http://www.iaccarino.de/silvio/ppcstuff.htm
His description:
MobileAppMover is a tool for moving all references from a specific directory to another directory. It will search and replace a given path in the whole registry and in every shortcut. You can use this to move complete program installations from memory to storage card and vice versa. The files itself won't be moved by this tool.
For use at own risk only!
So it's not a tool for noobs who do not know the difference between a program and a Today plugin or who do not know how to move the appropriate files manually. Neither of the two commercial tools are able to move every today plugin, strange things will happen if you try to move them anyway with mobileappmover. Please be sure to have a Safe Mode boot utility installed before you try this at home.
In the worst case scenario you'll need to reflash your ROM.
IE Cache size ?
Hi,
When I changed the registry key to limit cache size avoiding low memory error in Pocket IE first it's ok but after I resetting the device all device settings and registry back to old settings , how can I solve this problem ?
You were modifying this key?:
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Windows\CurrentVersion\Internet Settings\5.0\Cache\Content - CacheLimit?
yes it says 43018
each time I edited this when I reset the device this setting turns back
use schaps Advanced Config 3.0, its the best tweaking app htere is
schaps Advanced Config
ather90 said:
use schaps Advanced Config 3.0, its the best tweaking app htere is
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Yeah i used it too. Thats powerfull tool. See here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=317070
good
I like to install trials to check out new stuff and such, but since my phone hasnt got unlimited space I need to remove them as well.
Now the problem is that when I go to settings > system > remove programs
it only lists the first 11 programs that I've installed myself.
Is there a tweak or a registry setting that can be used to keep that program list updated and show every program installed.
If not, how can I uninstall a program completely ?
there should be shown every programm you installed, if you installed it with a cab or over active-sync
on my phone there are over 20 programms without any problem.
perhaps you just copied the software?!
otherwise check active-sync extras->software there should also been listed the installed software with a cross in front, if it is installed on your pda or just on you pc
I installed everything (all cab files) through active sync.
My rom is still the original one too, but only the first 11 programs are listed on my device.
Hi,
While installing the cab file in my HTC TyTN II, it ask me the location where to install the software Storage Card or memory.
But i am having problem while installing softwares which are not in the form of cab files but they are exe files and i have to install them in my device through PC via Active Sync.
My "Install Program into default installation folder" option under ActiveSync\Tools\AddRemove Programs is checked and grey (disabled). WHich result into that i cannot choose the installation directory to my storage card while installing any software through ActiveSync.
I was using WM2003SE device before and it was working fine there.
Please help me that how can i uncheck this option in WM6.
Thanks in advance.
He you tried it, hmmmmm????
It will ask you on the device where you want to install it!
pda_crazy said:
My "Install Program into default installation folder" option under ActiveSync\Tools\AddRemove Programs is checked and grey (disabled). WHich result into that i cannot choose the installation directory to my storage card while installing any software through ActiveSync.
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I would suggest you try to install the software via ActiveSync and although the option to choose where the program is installed is greyed out... when it gets to your device, you 'may' still get the option to install it in memory or on a storage card. If you aren't being asked, it could mean that the software you are installing must be installed in memory. (Or the developer thinks it should be, and therefore doesn't give you the option.) Microsoft Voice Command is like that.
Mark
I have HTC Diamond for 10 days (Asian version , ROM 1.35.707.3 WWE). Set it up and successfully used on US T-Mobile until yesterday when I’'ve got an error message on the phone saying that the program I am trying to open can not be open because of the missing dll file. I had few different software which I use on day to day basis installed on the phone like Pocket Informant, SPB Traveler, Trip Tracker, Cootek TouchPal. After the error message I tried to open other programs, but whatever was installed on the internal storage of the phone gave me an error message.
Next I tried to reinstall those programs and got the message saying – “…the installation was unsuccessful…”. Next I decided to do the hard reset and reformat the internal storage. In the end of the process I'’ve got the message saying "Compare moviNAND error". It stays on screen until I hit the reset button.
After restart the device goes back to the factory settings. The internal storage is available, except I find "internal storage" and "internal storage2" folders. The CONTENTS folder which I had there originally is missing. I can copy files there, but when I attempt to install the software I am getting the following message: "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it is not digitally signed with a trusted certificate."
I know that a lot of you guys went through hard resets. Did anyone had this problem? Can any one help me to fix this?
Hi,
Try deleting the 'Internal Storage' folder using the file explorer and soft reset. 'Internal Storage 2' should be automatically renamed to 'Internal Storage'.
Hopefully this work for you.
DT
Did that. But still can not install any CABs...
Activesync mode
Check if your diamond is not connected as disk drive (normally when you connect it to your computer you have the choice to connect using activesync or disk drive). If you did connect using disk drive mode, you will not be able to install programs correctly. This is why it creates a 'internal storage 2' folder when installing programs.
I rearly use ActiveSync to install programs. I have them mostly as a CABs. So last advice does not fix the problem. Thank you though.
tarrytownfads said:
I have HTC Diamond for 10 days (Asian version , ROM 1.35.707.3 WWE). Set it up and successfully used on US T-Mobile until yesterday when I’'ve got an error message on the phone saying that the program I am trying to open can not be open because of the missing dll file. I had few different software which I use on day to day basis installed on the phone like Pocket Informant, SPB Traveler, Trip Tracker, Cootek TouchPal. After the error message I tried to open other programs, but whatever was installed on the internal storage of the phone gave me an error message.
Next I tried to reinstall those programs and got the message saying – “…the installation was unsuccessful…”. Next I decided to do the hard reset and reformat the internal storage. In the end of the process I'’ve got the message saying "Compare moviNAND error". It stays on screen until I hit the reset button.
After restart the device goes back to the factory settings. The internal storage is available, except I find "internal storage" and "internal storage2" folders. The CONTENTS folder which I had there originally is missing. I can copy files there, but when I attempt to install the software I am getting the following message: "Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it is not digitally signed with a trusted certificate."
I know that a lot of you guys went through hard resets. Did anyone had this problem? Can any one help me to fix this?
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this internal storage 2 is because of messaging (attachments of email messages that are appointed to be stored in internal storage). when u want account to store messages to the internal storage some times it doesnot work in order to get this worked just go to MESSAGING and MENU >>>> OPTIONS >>>> and here u see all accounts and just at left side u see storage and there uncheck the item that says When available use this storage card to store attachements and then RESTART and the problem should now be solved.
Mahmood, Thank you for your reply. Good point.
But my main problem is that I can not install any programs on my Diamond - neither to the Main Memory nor to the Internal Storage.
Any idea how to deal with the ..."Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it is not digitally signed with a trusted certificate"... message?
tarrytownfads said:
Mahmood, Thank you for your reply. Good point.
But my main problem is that I can not install any programs on my Diamond - neither to the Main Memory nor to the Internal Storage.
Any idea how to deal with the ..."Installation was unsuccessful. The program or setting cannot be installed because it is not digitally signed with a trusted certificate"... message?
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FIRST install the sdkCERTF.cab see the attachment see if it works !!
which softwares are u installing again if u are installing them again maybe they were not deleted completely u can use taskmanager to terminate the process of that program and then reinstall. Use the Certf cab file and install it in your device may be this will help !!
Well, the whole point of my post is that it does not allow me to install ANY CAB file. I just tried it and copied both programs to the Diamond. After clicking on SDKCert.cab I've got the "Installation of SDKCerts.cab was unsuccessful" and with the TaskMgrv3.0 the message is "The file 'TaskMgr' cannot be opened. Either it is not signed with a trusted certificate, or one of its components cannot be found. If the problem persists, try reinstalling or restoring this file"
What else could be done?
"digitally signed with a trusted certificate" issue
Guys, can anyone help here??? I can not believe that no one knows how to fix this...
If I were to flash my ROM to one of the newer ones from this forum, do you think it would fix the "digitally signed with a trusted certificate" issue?
Got the same issue with rom 1.37 :/
Any ideas since then ?
bringing this back to the top. I am trying to install an autorun that is designed to run from an SD card (not sure if this makes a difference or not) and when I do it says its not a trusted certificate and won't run. Have already installed the sdkcert.cab file and it states it installed correctly, but still the problem persists.
Fixed my install problem
I used Pocket Mechanic to fix registry issues and remove all trace of the program that first failed to install. All subsequent installs work fine.
Hi,
I have loads of cabs installed like manilla and s2u2, audio player, core player etc. I keep getting critical low memory messages even though all these programs are installed on the 4gb SD card.
I have tried to trawl through explorer and delete old files but my memory gets full up again and causes the phone to run slow. Any ideas?
Have a look what is consuming your storage MTreeSize also try ClearTemp also would be handy to know what ROM just incase DebLogger?
helowsti said:
Hi,
I have loads of cabs installed like manilla and s2u2, audio player, core player etc. I keep getting critical low memory messages even though all these programs are installed on the 4gb SD card.
I have tried to trawl through explorer and delete old files but my memory gets full up again and causes the phone to run slow. Any ideas?
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What rom are you using? If its a 6.5 rom then there is a reg key that need to be deleted along with a folder in the root of your device...do a seach and I'm sure you will find it.
Possible Solution
jhernand1102 said:
What rom are you using? If its a 6.5 rom then there is a reg key that need to be deleted along with a folder in the root of your device...do a seach and I'm sure you will find it.
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If it is a 6.5 rom you have to follow this procedure:
- With Registry Editor go to:
HKey_Local_Machine\Software\HTC\Deblogger
delete the whole Deblogger folder
- Soft Reset
- Delete the folder Deblogger with cprog inside in the Device Memory.
You have no more cprog growing and the mobile runs smoothly.
Do this procedure again if you do a hard reset, because the Deblogger is cooked inside Windows 6.5 build.
I think chefs will remove the Deblogger in their future ROMs.
The ROM im using is 3.28.61.0 WWE. I only tried a few after losing the sound and was just glad i found one that worked!