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Who are interested to see Linux also on this device?
The process should be very similar to Hermes implementation, so we can follow their steps.
Interesting
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
kimusan said:
is it possible to do dual boot ? how will phone functionality etc work?
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answering myself: yes it is, which means that I am in! I would love to help with the investigation for getting linux on this device. Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
kimusan said:
Looks like the new haret (01/01/2007) works well on trinity. I have successfully telnetted to it and executed several different commands.
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Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
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Register a machine number for it.
Are the trinity internals known as good as the Hermes ?
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What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this? As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
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What do you mean by Register a machine number? where do I do this?
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http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
As far as I know, the internals are pretty well known. We have pictures that identifies all the relevant chips, and schematics for a lot of the chipset.
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Do you have a link ?
cr2 said:
http://www.arm.linux.org.uk/developer/machines/
Do you have a link ?
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It is in one (or more) of the threads in the trinity forum here at xdadevelopers. I do not have the direct links here, but have seen them recently. it is most likely in oone of the "GPS or not GPS" threads.
I have now registered the HTC Trinity/P3600
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Do you have a link ?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285090
See first attachment, Mainboard.zip contains front and back pictures of Trinity's mainboard, with all chipsets.
Look here for the schemes:
http://www.solopalmari.com/content/view/2471/38/
page 2 and 3.
How is the state of art in porting linux on this device?
And on Hermes? Does the kernel boot?
With wm6 do you have to hard reset every time you try to boot the kernel?
Maybe Pof can answer these questions.
Thanks
@renatostore: cr2 and Kevin2 are the guys working on it, come into #htc-linux at freenode irc network.
On hermes the kernel boots, and we can load a minimal initrd using haret. On trinity i haven't checked lastly.
You don't need to hard reset afer booting linux, that was only on WM2003
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How about linux on trinity? i've been on the irc channel but didn't get any answer... a few months passed... i'm in hope!
I don't have high hope on that. Heard it's very difficult to debug stuff in Linux due to the lack of a hardware kb....
why do you want linux on this phone? you are not going to be able to cross-compile apps over and I don't see a useful app in linux that wm6 doesn't have already for a phone.
Hi...
Still interested...
Had someexperience with h36xx and h38xx/h39xx series HP/Compaq PDA's and familiar linux, and it would be very cool to have some of this running on the HTC hardware too...
Anyone already had a ROM cooked up with kernel/basic apps?
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
Thanks!
bkortleven said:
Any idea what will/does work and what won't/doesn't? like phone, camera, wifi, gprs, bluetooth, ...
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Check the hermes wiki.
trinity is the hermes without keyboard, minor differences are unimportant
The future of Linux on PDAs is Andromeda. Don't expect this to be implemented on existing devices - Andromeda will be a means to deliver new devices to the market.
While you will most likely need a new phone for Andromeda, you will gain a complete platform with stylish and working applications, so you will be able to actually use the device right from the start.
Have fun!
Sorry, maybe a stupid question.
Is it not possible to flash one of the HTC ROM's onto X1?
Nope, it will not work.
I figured that much, but can someone on here maybe explain? From what I could see it has the same processor as X1 etc.
LFCFredda said:
Nope, it will not work.
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Hero/Dream/Magic are running android, not windows mobile....they are working on making an android version for the X1.
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WC
HTC said Sense UI will be avail on windows mobile as well...but in the meantime theres quite a few tread people porting linux android over to windows and xperia u should read up on that
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HTC said Sense UI will be avail on windows mobile as well...but in the meantime theres quite a few tread people porting linux android over to windows and xperia u should read up on that
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I know people are trying to get android onto X1 and hence my question. Why is it not possible to just use the android rom (with some mods) from the HTC phones as most of the hardware seems similar?
stevenvm said:
I know people are trying to get android onto X1 and hence my question. Why is it not possible to just use the android rom (with some mods) from the HTC phones as most of the hardware seems similar?
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I guess we just have to wait to see what the amazing cooks come up with!
stevenvm said:
I figured that much, but can someone on here maybe explain? From what I could see it has the same processor as X1 etc.
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it's basicly misc Hardware stuff.
CPU might be the same same jeah, but evyerthing else is not. neither the chipsets for the keyboard are, nor is the chipset for making phonecalls, nor the memory and so on.
it's liek trying to fit a Mazda Elektronics into a ford ka. maybe u can squeeze it in but im sure it wont work since the electronic doesnt know any part of the new car.
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it's basicly misc Hardware stuff.
CPU might be the same same jeah, but evyerthing else is not. neither the chipsets for the keyboard are, nor is the chipset for making phonecalls, nor the memory and so on.
it's liek trying to fit a Mazda Elektronics into a ford ka. maybe u can squeeze it in but im sure it wont work since the electronic doesnt know any part of the new car.
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i notice some fatal mistakes in your setence
achmed20 said:
it's basicly misc Hardware stuff.
CPU might be the same same jeah, but evyerthing else is not. neither the chipsets for the keyboard are, nor is the chipset for making phonecalls, nor the memory and so on.
it's liek trying to fit a Mazda Elektronics into a ford ka. maybe u can squeeze it in but im sure it wont work since the electronic doesnt know any part of the new car.
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electronic doesn't need to know the car. because in computer systems, there exist another layer between the electronic and the car.
it's called the kernel. hardware abstraction layer.
it'll work... just need someone free enough to make it work.
no further explanations please! lets pretend it is magic
/me swings the magic wand
ps: jeah i know .. im king of typos and abstract examples ^^
Is there anybody working on this right now?
Would love a Hero/etc android ROM on my X1, definitely. Just got a Hero and I'm loving it to bits.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=Kovsky Linux
i think so.such as a computer with Windows or linux or sth. else ..
Anyone on Rogers managed to get this to work? I miss not being able to see the name of the person/company who is calling me.
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From what I understood, we need to activate ro.ril.enable.cnap=1 in build.prop.
I tried that, no go (CM7 RC2)
Anyone have any other idea?
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From what I understood, we need to activate ro.ril.enable.cnap=1 in build.prop.
I tried that, no go (CM7 RC2)
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Yeah, that doesn't work on a stock ROM either. There's obviously something we are missing.
efrant said:
Anyone on Rogers managed to get this to work? I miss not being able to see the name of the person/company who is calling me.
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I would also love to have this. The information must be being sent TO the phones, right? There must be a way.
There's gotta be a way indeed. But alas, it's way beyond my expertise
Some Android phones do support CNAP. So it must be a problem with the software/radio.
Any guru volunteering to help out?
This was a big "WTF, seriously?" for me when I got my Nexus One after having a Nokia N95 for years where this worked perfectly. I've gotten used to it, but I'd love to have the name display again.
Do other carriers do this? People I know using Bell or Telus were surprised or even didn't believe me when I said I used to get name display with my N95, which suggests maybe they don't. Anyone know how common it is for carriers to send the name? I've been with Rogers for over 10 years now and just figured it was a standard thing like with landlines.
I had my SE W810i (best non-smartphone by far) and it worked perfectly. Since then, tried many phones, none of them supported CNAP. Had a nokia that would support it but wouldn't keep it in the call list. Pretty useless when I got missed calls.
I know some android phones do support CNAP. So this is entirely possible. We just need one of the gurus to figure out what has to be done!
I think it has something to do with this file : /data/misc/rild_ril.cnap
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This was a big "WTF, seriously?" for me when I got my Nexus One after having a Nokia N95 for years where this worked perfectly. I've gotten used to it, but I'd love to have the name display again.
Do other carriers do this? People I know using Bell or Telus were surprised or even didn't believe me when I said I used to get name display with my N95, which suggests maybe they don't. Anyone know how common it is for carriers to send the name? I've been with Rogers for over 10 years now and just figured it was a standard thing like with landlines.
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I believe Rogers is the only Canadian carrier that offers CNAP/name-display.
I remember the difficulties we had in trying to get it to work on Windows Mobile devices. There was a work-around, but it required , but it required using a specific file (rilphone.dll) from a Rogers ROM for the same/similar device... Maybe we need the /data/misc/rild_ril.cnap from a Rogers ROM for a similar device...
If I'm not mistaken, the Rogers Samsung Galaxy supports CNAP.
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If I'm not mistaken, the Rogers Samsung Galaxy supports CNAP.
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I think what we need is an HTC device that has a Rogers ROM with CNAP working, which I don't think exists...
I have read the thread about Full Ubuntu on the Atrix. What I am asking is something different.
Cant this hack work on the Motorola Atrix
Ubuntu on Nexus/Android Phone
It has instructions that seem to work on all android phones.
Anyone want to try it and tell me how it goes.
Should. There was a thread in here about doing the same thing but with debian. Its probably a couple of pages back.
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I can't seem to find it. Can tell me roughly what the title was?
Also any other devs care to chime in?
Please
It'll probably work, but... why??? You already have a perfectly functional Ubuntu running on your phone.
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It'll probably work, but... why??? You already have a perfectly functional Ubuntu running on your phone.
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Well to access that I will need some output monitor. I would like to have Ubuntu on the screen itself.
What is the worst that can happen to the phone if I tried it?
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Well to access that I will need some output monitor. I would like to have Ubuntu on the screen itself.
What is the worst that can happen to the phone if I tried it?
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The worst? Who knows?
Sure, you could set up a VNC server under the Ubuntu and then run VNC from either your device (Android) or from an external client. That's what the linked method is doing, so there's nothing inherently better about it.
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The worst? Who knows?
Sure, you could set up a VNC server under the Ubuntu and then run VNC from either your device (Android) or from an external client. That's what the linked method is doing, so there's nothing inherently better about it.
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Well I don't know much but do you think that method at the source will work?
It doesn't seem to dive into the phone too much. It seems like an app. Also does anyone know of a way to get rid of it after I install it?
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Well I don't know much but do you think that method at the source will work?
It doesn't seem to dive into the phone too much. It seems like an app. Also does anyone know of a way to get rid of it after I install it?
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Me? No idea. I'm not sure how much magic is happening behind the scenes, and I'm currently involved in, well, making sure that the Ubuntu that Motorola ships works well to look too deeply into this. Sorry.
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Me? No idea. I'm not sure how much magic is happening behind the scenes, and I'm currently involved in, well, making sure that the Ubuntu that Motorola ships works well to look too deeply into this. Sorry.
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ok no problem if you come along something can you please tell me.
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I have read the thread about Full Ubuntu on the Atrix. What I am asking is something different.
Cant this hack work on the Motorola Atrix
Ubuntu on Nexus/Android Phone
It has instructions that seem to work on all android phones.
Anyone want to try it and tell me how it goes.
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Have you seen my post on getting Debian running on the Atrix? Debian and Ubuntu are kind of similar IMO, and can run the same applications. To get it go here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=986071
Thank you so much that is what I wanted.
Yea I use debian on my laptop and Ubuntu on my desktop.
Glad to see I helped But the question is did it work? I know a LOT of people were having trouble with it. I did it fine with no problems, I hope it went the same way for you.
I'm working on getting a vanilla copy of Debian running on the device. So far everything works except X, which can't detect a properly configured device. Will post if I have any success with it.
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I'm working on getting a vanilla copy of Debian running on the device. So far everything works except X, which can't detect a properly configured device. Will post if I have any success with it.
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Thats great! Playing with Debian on the Atrix is actually quite fun. I had problems installing deb packages on it though for some reason. Have you tried installing flash on the FireWiesel browser? Failed for me. As did everything else I tried to install.
Is there any developer that trys to port ubuntu to our beloved N6? Or maybe someone have allready done it?
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Is there dev that trys to port ubuntu to our beloved N6? Or maybe someone have allready done it?
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I really want Ubuntu Touch on Nexus 6 too
Its a pitty that no one knows about that, there is no one probably on it yet, hope some developer will try it
Count me in too. I see there is suppost to be a tablet released soon that uses ubuntu. Now if the phone idea can only start.
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Is there any developer that trys to port ubuntu to our beloved N6? Or maybe someone have allready done it?
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The biggest reason nobody has bothered with this, is if you did, it wouldn't be able to make a phone call, which kinda breaks the whole "phone" aspect of having a phone.
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The biggest reason nobody has bothered with this, is if you did, it wouldn't be able to make a phone call, which kinda breaks the whole "phone" aspect of having a phone.
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Ubuntu Touch (for phones) works fine as a phone on Nexus 4, and Nexus 5 (except no bluetooth and power management is kaput).