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WM6 VC Bluetooth activation issue finaly solved! [CAB here]

OK guys,
here is the final solution for the issue. By default, Voice Commander 1.6 built-in WM6 ROMs is unable to be activated from Bluetooth headset. The most common workaround here was reinstalling VC over the default one. That costs you couple megs of storage wasted, older/uglier icon in Settings, and slower device overall. No need to do it anymore! Here is a simple registry hack that enables bluetooth activation of VC.
Don't forget to soft-reset after installing.

!! Yoz !!
Brilliant !!

Great job! I will try it the next time I flash my rom again!

Great Find

Thank you! Works like a charm...

just out of curiosity, did you figure this out yourself or find it. if the former then how and if the latter where?

I have WM6 on the 8125, with the 2.19 radio, and this isn't working for me. It keeps saying that there was an error with voice command and that I should restart it. I reset my phone a couple times to make sure that it worked, but it isn't. How do you uninstall the cab? Or will reinstalling vc 1.6 take care of it?

Found this out by myself by exploring the VC 1.6 CAB with WinCE CAB Manager and comparing the registry values it adds to the system after installation with the existing ones. I figured out before that simple replacement of all built-in VC's files with the files of retail VC doesnt show any result. So, I found the difference here:
[HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\SOFTWARE\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway]
"BTAGExtModule"="vcbthag.dll"
- that's the key from installation CAB. The default value of the BTAGExtModule key is different. I tried to change it appropriately, soft-reseted - and voila!
The CAB posted here just changes the registry key mentioned above. You can get the same result by editing your registry manually.
So far I did not notice any side effects of this reg hack. If you can not install this CAB, there is probably something to do with allowing installation of the unsigned CABs on your device. Anyway, you can edit your registry by hand.

You are my new best friend. I was sure this was possible but thought I was going to have to spend a whole day working it out. Downloaded your cab and 2 minutes later my Plantronics 590a headphones work flawlessly.
Thanks again for saving me a lot of time and a few grey hairs!
-rob

aperley said:
OK guys,
here is the final solution for the issue. By default, Voice Commander 1.6 built-in WM6 ROMs is unable to be activated from Bluetooth headset. The most common workaround here was reinstalling VC over the default one. That costs you couple megs of storage wasted, older/uglier icon in Settings, and slower device overall. No need to do it anymore! Here is a simple registry hack that enables bluetooth activation of VC.
Don't forget to soft-reset after installing.
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Great job........it worked for me with no mishaps........Thanks!!

thx
confirm working on Parrot bluetooth carkit too.

@aperley - Respect, my friend.
Thanks much!

All SIP's go back to default SIP.

I've gone through multiple Roms, different versions of hyperdragon III, and different versions of PDAcorner. When I try to select a different keyboard, it loads for a second, then goes back to the default. The only keyboards that work are other defaults, such as Block Recognizer, Letter Recognizer, and Symbol Pad.
SOMETIMES PCM keyboard works, but NEVER has any of the diamond keyboards every worked.
I've even tried SIPchange, but the same thing happens. I assume the same has happened to you guys too? did you ever fix it?
thanks!

Is it just me?
How many of you use the Diamond Keyboard, or keyboard other than the default?

default IM
are you still having the same problem? did you ever try using the default im cab for wm5?
it worked for pcm, but i never tried it with the diamond keyboards.

Ramey said:
are you still having the same problem? did you ever try using the default im cab for wm5?
it worked for pcm, but i never tried it with the diamond keyboards.
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The default cab is the ticket...it works when everything else fails. I don't even bother with the other stuff now. If the sip won't stick, I just install that cab and select it. A soft reset later and you are good to go.

Ramey said:
are you still having the same problem? did you ever try using the default im cab for wm5?
it worked for pcm, but i never tried it with the diamond keyboards.
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I'm not sure what you mean by default im cab for wm5... lol

mikeeey said:
I'm not sure what you mean by default im cab for wm5... lol
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I have attached attached it below. Also there are other keyboards that work better than the diamond ones...raphael and opal work much better. Do a search for their cabs...

parleyp said:
I have attached attached it below. Also there are other keyboards that work better than the diamond ones...raphael and opal work much better. Do a search for their cabs...
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doesnt work... atleast not with PCMkeyboard. I'll reinstall PCM.
I cant seem to find the raphael and opal keyboard.. but I'm going to keep ssearching lol.. i dont wanna sound like a complete noob!
edit:
sipchange and imSelector did nothing... the only reason I fixed PCMkeyboard was cause uninstalled the old and re installed it.. as far sa the raphael and opal keyboard.. i downloaded something, but im not sure if it was it, so.. could someone kindly link me to the 2 keyboards? lol
thanks.
edit: (5 seconds later)
PCMkeyboard just quit working again, and imSelector and sipchange doenst fix it.
So instead i must ask... what roms are you guys using that support SIPS?

default im selector instructions
mikeeey said:
doesnt work... atleast not with PCMkeyboard. I'll reinstall PCM.
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edit:
sipchange and imSelector did nothing... could someone kindly link me to the 2 keyboards? lol
thanks.
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edit: (5 seconds later)
PCMkeyboard just quit working again...
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1. install the default im wm5 cab above
2. install the opal keyboard you want
3. start > programs > im selector > opal keyboard
4. start > settings > personal > input > opal keyboard
5. soft reset
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you may need 2 soft reset twice before it cooperates. if you have your phone password protected, the default keyboard you selected will never show until AFTER you enter the password.
only RARELY do i get a glitch now, and a reset usually fixes the problem.
let us know!

mikeeey said:
doesnt work... atleast not with PCMkeyboard. I'll reinstall PCM.
I cant seem to find the raphael and opal keyboard.. but I'm going to keep ssearching lol.. i dont wanna sound like a complete noob!
edit:
sipchange and imSelector did nothing... the only reason I fixed PCMkeyboard was cause uninstalled the old and re installed it.. as far sa the raphael and opal keyboard.. i downloaded something, but im not sure if it was it, so.. could someone kindly link me to the 2 keyboards? lol
thanks.
edit: (5 seconds later)
PCMkeyboard just quit working again, and imSelector and sipchange doenst fix it.
So instead i must ask... what roms are you guys using that support SIPS?
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I am in the same boat as you and the only keyboard that I have gotten to work is resco keyboard.....I have same exact problems as you...did you ask SJ about it....

SJ's opal keyboard
im having problems attaching files, but SJ's keyboards can be found here.
apply the default im instructions and a couple of soft resets later, you should be good 2 go.

I played with a Samsung Omnia yesterday, I really liked the keyboard SIP, is it possible to download and get to work on our kaiser's.

not sure...

[CAB] Speeding up your Hardware keyboard Responce - Disable XT9

This is a cab that i used to ALWAYS use on my Kaiser to speed up the keyboard response of the device. Just tried it on my Fuze running ROMEOS and it definitely showed signs of improvement.
Install the CAB and soft-reset. Post your findings to this thread.
Makes this change:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
To Turn on again
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME

Hi, I've tried this registry hack on TouchHD with production firmware, and it certainly does disable XT9 and re-enable the native WM predictive text, *BUT* it makes my TouchHD slow to a crawl. The phone still works but extremely slow (like 2-3 second reponse delay) and also gets extremely hot behind the CPU. It's as though there is still some process in the background desperately making unanswered function calls to XT9. I've had to re-enable XT9 just to make my TouchHD responsive.
Can anyone point me to a CPU/process tool so I could see what it is taking up all those CPU cycles and generating all that heat when XT9 is disabled?

You tried that hack on the Touch HD? Does that even have a hardware keyboard? I don't think that it was supposed to work with that phone. (Maybe?)

yeah.. this would have no effect on sip inputs...

Well there is one problem i got is that when i install this tweak i cant type æøå on the hw keyboard:/ (norwegian keyboard) so is there away to use this tweak with norwegian keyboard support?

Still searching as well
I am also still searching for a way to get rid of the whole friggin' black et9 input bar, but keep my hardware keyboard to be responsive to the sym key, and the function key for typing euro sign and pound sign.
I hate the black input bar, especially since after you type first name in a text message address bar, and press space for a second name, it fills ion a name that's highlighted at the moment.
That's just so annoying...
Anyone any clue on how to deactivate et9, but keep the hardware keyboard fully functional?

Is it working for Raphael??

chetstriker said:
Is it working for Raphael??
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it is posted in the Raphael Software section. do you now think it's working?

I think it wirked.
I have jsut installed it on my kaiser and it seems to work very well, But i am also old school and running solace v1, works great thank you! no more.. t hanky ou...lol

just pade the registry change...
seems to be working well... barely any lag at all...
i've made this change VVV as well in hopes to fix this problem... it also helped a little
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
“InitialDelay”=dword: dec 775
“RepeatRate”=dword: dec 23
with this one tho seems a lot better.

After i uninstalled this "disable xT9" my manilla sms meny dissapeared... Anyone knows how to restore it?

this actually got my sip full qwerty keyboard stuck in number mode...
i just changed it back to et9ime.dll and it's back to normal...
too bad... seemed to work well for the hard keyboard.

Works well for me on my HTC Touch Pro.
Thanks heaps ... it's been bugging me for a while.

are u able to uninstall this if dont like?
are u able to uninstall this?

frankjr927 said:
are u able to uninstall this?
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When I uninstalled this my sms meny in manilla disapeared :S

Works great for me, I've been looking for something like this! Thank you very much!

just a lil warning...
Be careful installing this on touch pros/fuzes. It has been known to get the on screen keyboard stuck on numeric mode. Some ppl have gone upto a week or two without the problem showing up. Just a heads up.

just a lil warning...
Unfortunatley, I did not read this post prior to installing the xt9 disable software on my Fuze. I really enjoyed everything, such as the older style auto correct, and the list of suggested words. Now that juicy "Full QWERTY" is stuck in number mode. Is there a fix for this? Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Rick

I did the reg change to get the win mob predictive text... which worked until I did a soft reset. After that, my FULL QWERTY is also stuck in number mode.
Changed the reg back to original, and I got back my FULL QWERTY. No need to soft reset.

this helped me! HTC messaging with hardware keyboard on xperia is much faster now... but not windows messaging...
but I found this, which helped out with that too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4195099#post4195099
great!

Butler - new features

Hi there,
I just picket up the code of butlef app made by siggie1970
Butler - Using capacitive area as stroke launcher and many more features
Original thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=464611
I decide to put some new features like layout change on keyboard slide out. It is useful for stoping SIP poping out. You can point to nullkb or any other layout.
Setings available in registry by any registry editor or by AdvancedConfig (configuration file and only Butler section for config file below)
New features added:
1. Feature lets you to set keyboard layout on keyboard slide in/out.
defautl values for IN - Full Qwerty, for OUT - nullKB. Configurable via registry keys:
EnableSIPChangerKbd
KbdInSIP
KbdOutSIP
2. (Butler1.2) After slide in (in my Rom) some services or apps ?? sets back the Compact layout. So double check added to butler - if after slide in 2sec keyboard was changed to something else but not the KbdInSIP, butler sets it again, otherwise no action performed.

that's more like it! I'll check it out after my ROM release, I'm currently building it right now

Thanks linuxis,
I'll test the new slide function. Wondering what wil happen happen when the keyboard is slid out and I pull my stylus out
I'll also let you know if the errors are still there if there is no HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles key and value like Noonski pointed out. Might wanna include the settings in the cab.
Cheers,
/Cacti

le_cactus said:
Thanks linuxis,
I'll test the new slide function. Wondering what wil happen happen when the keyboard is slid out and I pull my stylus out
I'll also let you know if the errors are still there if there is no HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles key and value like Noonski pointed out. Might wanna include the settings in the cab.
Cheers,
/Cacti
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Good idea about "HKCU\ControlPanel\Profiles" Next release...

i have the old one
does this one let you use both sip change from stylus and keyboard? cause that was pretty much the one missing feature or is it just keyboard now?
and if i install this cab will i gotta redo all the links and such. aaand is there any settings or same reg edits only?

lbhocky19 said:
i have the old one
does this one let you use both sip change from stylus and keyboard? cause that was pretty much the one missing feature or is it just keyboard now?
and if i install this cab will i gotta redo all the links and such. aaand is there any settings or same reg edits only?
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Yes, it lets you to change both. Separate registry keys for configuration.
No setings - you can use AdvancedConfig or registry editor. I thing that setings
is not used often and application would be bigger and more complex. So no plans for setings.
After install it will overwrite registry setings. If you want to keep old ones - save.

i had added the settings into advanced config for the old version
are you able to see the new feature of keyboard out sip setting in there? i only see the old settings so far
(and what is the number letter code for nullkb? thanks) im an idiot i searched around the interweb finally got the code then went to edit the setting and realized it was arleady set to nullkb blah but great job with the update coudlnt be happier

I had tried to use Butler with NATF ver 4.1 and it frooze the phone at the reboot screen. I had to do a hard reset, do you know if this version has the same issue?

Yup it does on certain roms. I have bo idea why some roms do and some roms dont have the problem.
Advice would still be to always make a full backup of your rom before installing this program!
Cheers,
Cacti

le_cactus said:
Yup it does on certain roms. I have bo idea why some roms do and some roms dont have the problem.
Advice would still be to always make a full backup of your rom before installing this program!
Cheers,
Cacti
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No idea also. Mine device with ROMeOS 1.51 works fine.
One slite issue - if butler was initialised in portrait mode after slide out/int keyboar changes to one you've configured, but after few seconds it changes to compact qwerty .... if you initialize with keyboard slide out/in keyboard changes to what you've configured and stays (as it should be).
I've investigated that issue shortly, so no idea where is the issue. But I will.
It seems that not the butler changes to the compact kdb.
Does anyone has the same ??

linuxis said:
No idea also. Mine device with ROMeOS 1.51 works fine.
One slite issue - if butler was initialised in portrait mode after slide out/int keyboar changes to one you've configured, but after few seconds it changes to compact qwerty .... if you initialize with keyboard slide out/in keyboard changes to what you've configured and stays (as it should be).
I've investigated that issue shortly, so no idea where is the issue. But I will.
It seems that not the butler changes to the compact kdb.
Does anyone has the same ??
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linuxis, I was checking the code before maybe you could disable setting of SIP on initialization? On the old code, I think it's on Butlerlib.cpp line 862 to 878.

pfcsabre said:
linuxis, I was checking the code before maybe you could disable setting of SIP on initialization? On the old code, I think it's on Butlerlib.cpp line 862 to 878.
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Good idea, thanks. I'll try that also

linuxis said:
Good idea, thanks. I'll try that also
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Let me know if that works because I don't see the point of having the SIP initialized on startup in the code-- Butler will be detecting the change of stylus in/out (or in your case slide-in/slide-out) anyway when the main thread starts (correct me if I'm wrong about this )

Which ROMs work
Firstly - loving Butler, it's an excellent addition to the phone and if HTC have half a brain it'll be in the next standard ROM released!
Is there any chance we could post up which ROMs work with Butler and which don't? Just thinking it'll save people some time hard resetting and setting up their phones again if they're on a non-working ROM.
Qsqa's PROven ROM 2.1 - Working fine
At0mAng V4.0 - Shows keyboard during boot up, but works fine after that
Qsqa's PROven ROM 2.2 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
Elite RC3 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
Anyone care to chip in their experiences?

PDAVIET V12 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
PDAVIET V13 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
DA_G Kitchen ROMS - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing (at least the ones I cooked)
Off topic, with a combination of SlideActions & KforTouchPro (and butler for the null keyboard) I now have my SIP's and keyboard working like the should. XT9 when needed, and MS$ driver when the keyboard is slide out. So now I can actualy use the keyboard in iGO8 en Ctrix clients!
Thanks!
Cheers
Cacti

Confused Stu said:
Firstly - loving Butler, it's an excellent addition to the phone and if HTC have half a brain it'll be in the next standard ROM released!
Is there any chance we could post up which ROMs work with Butler and which don't? Just thinking it'll save people some time hard resetting and setting up their phones again if they're on a non-working ROM.
Qsqa's PROven ROM 2.1 - Working fine
At0mAng V4.0 - Shows keyboard during boot up, but works fine after that
Qsqa's PROven ROM 2.2 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
Elite RC3 - Freezes on boot up with keyboard showing
Anyone care to chip in their experiences?
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RREv4 freezes as well
Alternativly, although not quite as developed as butler, TouchLockPro now allows for the launching of programs/command parameters for capacitive swipes and actually adds four more capacitive swipes than what butler does. Likewise it does NOT freeze upon start up for whatever reason on any rom I've tried.

proven works

[BUG] Problem with Manilla.
It has problem with manilla. After launching app its a must to change active tab if you want launch this or another app again.

Does Butler still allow you to scroll zoom messages and zoom in/out in Opera?

whiteblazer01 said:
Does Butler still allow you to scroll zoom messages and zoom in/out in Opera?
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Yes, Butler doesn't impact on the touch sensitive circle area at all, it only notices and interprets light swipes over the call/home/back buttons.

Swype now available as a CAB

It seems that the awesome keyboard app called Swype has been ripped off the Samsung Omnia II and a CAB has been created to install on winmo WVGA devices.
Info on Swype can be found here: http://www.swypeinc.com/
CAB located here: http://www.mediafire.com/file/ungnttnzmwa/Swype.cab
I installed it on my Imagio and let's just say that I am NOT going back to the regular keyboard anytime soon!!!!!
Enjoy and let me know if anyone finds any issues. I've only used it for about 10 minutes and haven't found anything thus far.

Looks pretty interesting I will have to give it a try later.

That does look pretty freakin' cool.

Just installed it on my Imagio...
WOW loving it thus far...

Top notch works great!

this is really awesome. very impressed with the accuracy so far.
can we make it so the keys pop up like the oem keyboard?

Thanks so much for sharing, this is awesome!

WM noob here -- installed fine but no change. What do i need to do to enable?

had same problem

Did you do a soft-reset?

enabling
No soft reset required. At the bottom of the screen, there's usually that keyboard icon. Just to the right of it is a small arrow. Using the stylus helps for those of is big fingered folks.
Click that arrow and up will pop a menu. Select "Other Input Methods" and then select Swype.
You won't need to do that again, unless you do a soft-reset of the phone at any time.

Ahhh there it is; thx buddy.
Former BB users have stylus "lapses" from time to time....

No problemo.....
us newbies have to stick together.

Best Keyboard I have ever used!
Awesome working great easy to use

I have the vzw tp2. this thread should be in something else since it works on other devices.
also why won't the keyboard stay on swype when you turn off the phone?

thanks its working perfect

Might just be the best app for WM yet!
I was skeptical . . . but now I am hooked! It takes a bit of getting used to, but it REALLY does make typing on a soft-keyboard easy. I don't need no STINKING slideout keyboard!

You can use SIPChange to make Swype be the default keyboard when you do a power off/power on.

This keyboard is ****ing psychic

rjygraham said:
You can use SIPChange to make Swype be the default keyboard when you do a power off/power on.
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i also had the default keyboard problem and used SIPChange...
"Apparently this is a bug with WM 6.5. Use the cab SIPChanger to set swype as the default keyboard, this setting will even survive a soft reset ( thank god )
Make sure to set the startup delay thingy to 40 seconds or the program will crash on startup." (quote from Survivalism over at PPC).
He also posted the SIPChange cab on his thread...
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=100973&page=3
I thanked him there and thank everyone here for all the help.