hello
recently i bought an htc tytn II
but on a rainny day, i was on motocycle, and my kaiser was literally in water!
when arrive at home i dry it and dissassembled it to ensure that i dont have any water!
my kaiser turns on fine and all, but the problems are there, like:
when kaiser turned on: 1 - i cannot connect with pc, 2 - i cannot charge it! 3 - my keyboard, just 3 keys work(i'm coming from replacing it)!
do you have one idea what problems it is?
thanks so much
p1k4mp3 said:
hello
recently i bought an htc tytn II
but on a rainny day, i was on motocycle, and my kaiser was literally in water!
when arrive at home i dry it and dissassembled it to ensure that i dont have any water!
my kaiser turns on fine and all, but the problems are there, like:
when kaiser turned on: 1 - i cannot connect with pc, 2 - i cannot charge it! 3 - my keyboard, just 3 keys work(i'm coming from replacing it)!
do you have one idea what problems it is?
thanks so much
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Yes - I have an idea as to what the problem is - it was not designed to work under water.
Suggest that you search for water and drying out as other people have had issues like this and there are several threads on what to do and how to dry out your phone.
Bill
Hello, bummer it got wet. if the 3 problems listed did not exist before it got wet, if safe to say the problems are a result of getting wet. i know, duh. if soft reset or turning the phone completly off does not fix, the only thing i can say to do is perform a hard reset, of course back up all you important data. i know nobody like to hear that.
lupe
i did a hard reset and it dont fix my kaiserü
p1k4mp3 said:
i did a hard reset and it dont fix my kaiserü
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Did you find the threads that talk about hair dryers, rice etc to "dry out" the phone?
Bill
i've allready dry out the phone!
everything works, but to charge battery, i have to turn off the phone, i'm not able to synchronise it with pc and keyboard dont work
p1k4mp3 said:
i've allready dry out the phone!
everything works, but to charge battery, i have to turn off the phone, i'm not able to synchronise it with pc and keyboard dont work
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So in other words, you were using it before it dried out. Most electronics can handle getting wet so long as they are dried out and any participate is cleared out of it first. If it's salt water, it must be very well cleaned. If it's dirty water, it's also suggested to clean. Typical rain water probably would not be a problem.
But it still must be completely dry before attempting to turn it back on. And regardless, the battery might be shot.
My guess is you were using it when it was still wet.
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So in other words, you were using it before it dried out. Most electronics can handle getting wet so long as they are dried out and any participate is cleared out of it first. If it's salt water, it must be very well cleaned. If it's dirty water, it's also suggested to clean. Typical rain water probably would not be a problem.
But it still must be completely dry before attempting to turn it back on. And regardless, the battery might be shot.
My guess is you were using it when it was still wet.
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What he said.
Yep, exactly. Sounds like a classic case of someone getting too eager to see if it still works before LETTING IT COMPLETELY DRY. Something was probably still wet and shorted out.
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Hi All,
Unfortunately my other half has managed to, quite accidentally, spill orange squash onto my X1.
The phone still works except for the buttons on the front of the device, ie the panel button, and the directional button.
They respond but do not do what they are supposed too. For example, pressing right on the directional pad seems to bring up the phone app, left doesn't appear to do anything.
Has anyone else experienced anything like this? I have left the device to dry out in the airing cupboard over night and I am hoping that when I get back in from work it will (magically) be working again.
You shouldn't have used it after the spillage.
The right steps are too turn it off, remove the battery, let it dry for a couple of days and then turn it on.
I don't know what the effects would be in your case...
P.S. It wasn't accidental. Trust me.
well orange juice is sticky, but i once "stepped" into a small pond and everything from my belly downwards stood underwater for about 3-4 sec. including my X1 in my pocket.
i exitedly turned it on, though i knew i shouldn't do that and I saw a load of colours and it tried to boot but got stuck.
well i thought it was ****ed up and already searched for a new mobile. but then after 2-3 days it recovered. first it booted, but the touchscreen was still broken. then everything recovered, even my battery still works perfectly.
my 2 "water indicators" inside my phone and battery are red now
sekall12 said:
well orange juice is sticky, but i once "stepped" into a small pond and everything from my belly downwards stood underwater for about 3-4 sec. including my X1 in my pocket.
i exitedly turned it on, though i knew i shouldn't do that and I saw a load of colours and it tried to boot but got stuck.
well i thought it was ****ed up and already searched for a new mobile. but then after 2-3 days it recovered. first it booted, but the touchscreen was still broken. then everything recovered, even my battery still works perfectly.
my 2 "water indicators" inside my phone and battery are red now
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Sorry for the OT, but where exactly are the water indicators? Have only been able to find the battery one.
Ah bugger, I have taken it back to O2 today and they have sent it off for repair.
I claimed I knew nothing about why it failed.
Oh well, it should be covered under my insurance if need be. (Well it better bloody be, I have had it long enough with nary a claim to my name)
Thanks for the responses chaps!
Hello all (first post here) I had a water spillage on my x1 and after looking for advice i came across something that worked. half Fill a bowl with uncooked rice and put the x1 in to the rice( take out the battery first). then poor more rice on the top of the phone. the rice will absorbe the moisture from the phone and this should help the phone to dry out. tried it with mine and it worked. everything was working fine but the m button on the keyboard. since then i took the phone apart and cleaned the keyboard and its back working fine. hope this helps or if not has made people laugh as it sounds so stupid it may just work as i did for me!
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Hello all (first post here) I had a water spillage on my x1 and after looking for advice i came across something that worked. half Fill a bowl with uncooked rice and put the x1 in to the rice( take out the battery first). then poor more rice on the top of the phone. the rice will absorbe the moisture from the phone and this should help the phone to dry out. tried it with mine and it worked. everything was working fine but the m button on the keyboard. since then i took the phone apart and cleaned the keyboard and its back working fine. hope this helps or if not has made people laugh as it sounds so stupid it may just work as i did for me!
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Actually, using rice is not a stupid idea - at all!
It is known to absorb moisture, go ahead and ask your grandmother (if you still have one), in the old days, when silicagel and the sorts didn't exist yet, a bowl of rice in the basement made sure that it wouldn't become too moist. Still works today, ofcourse.
Another thing you can try if the unit remains defective after cleaning it up a bit - buy some distilled water (at a hardware store or something).
Distilled water consists of H20 (yes, the real deal) for about 99.9% (depending on brand and quality). This means that harmful minerals like Kalium and Natrium will not be in it, meaning it can't cause electrical damage. If you use it carefully, you can rinse your device with it, dissolving any residual stickyness/salt etc inside.
Do take into account that - if not done properly - you might just move the crap from one place in your phone to the other, making things worse.
Just an idea!
Hi,
I'm having a total nightmare. Over the past few days my handset has been a nightmare. I was out last Saturday, and dropped my phone when it was raining. When I checked the phone it seemed to be OK, but there was some water still on the battery when I woke up and removed the cover on Sunday morning.
The phone seemed to be working OK at the time, but over the week there have been 2 issues.
1. The hardware buttons stop working intermittently. At first, the Call Send and Call End buttons were the wrong way around, but then now they have totally stopped functioning. The volume keys no longer work also. (The standby button on top is fine).
2. Every so often, the phone will go crazy, and its almost as if someone is pressing the buttons. It keeps going into Quick Launch mode and switching to Airplane Mode, and also keeps dialing Voicemail by itself.
I've just ran through the troubleshooting on the T-Mobile site, and it ask "Is the indicator sticker white?" - Mine is red
I am then told I have voided my warranty.
When I got handset, TMOB asked whether I wanted insurance. I said No because I thought I had it through my bank (I pay like £6 per month for my account and one of the advantanges you can choose is mobile phone insurance)
For this reason, I declined to take out the T-Mobile insurance.
This evening, Ive checked my banks insurance page on the website and in the small print is states:
Phones which have a primary use for the making and receiving of telephone calls, SMS text messages and data. We do not cover PDA type devices. Please see the definition of mobile phone/phone in section B of the Policy Document. If you are unsure as to whether your handset can be covered please contact us
Section B:
Mobile Phone/Phone
Your handset and SIM card specifically identified by the IMEI number and mobile phone number. The handset must be your property or responsibility. Your SIM card will not be covered unless it was inserted into the SIM card slot of the phone at the time of the incident.
The handset must be a hand-held electronic device for which its main use is for the making and receiving of telephone calls, SMS text messages and data. We do not cover devices which have Windows Mobile®, Symbian OSTM, or Palm® operating systems or a similar PDA type of interface, whose primary function is of a business nature. The cover of handsets will be at our discretion, and if you are unsure as to whether your handset can be covered please contact us.
Now, its too late to take out the T-Mobile insurance and I am stuck with a handset which doesnt work.
I am fully aware this is my own stupid fault.
I've been trying to check repair websites, but they seem to claim with Water Damage, there is no certainty that they will be able to fix the device, and it might come back in a worse state than it was sent in.
Any advice that could be offered would be greatly appreciated.
Does anyone know whether you can pay HTC directly to repair your device? I've tried calling but they are now closed.
HTC does service but they are slow.
Try putting the phone in a zip lock with some white rice, this will dry it out completely.
You have probably damaged the electronics due to using it when it was wet, however I would remove the battery and try to dry it as best you can before putting power back to the unit.
once heard that you can get the red dot back to white with some bleach.
Never tried it though
nightlife31 said:
once heard that you can get the red dot back to white with some bleach.
Never tried it though
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I heard HTC sued some people for trying that trick. so be careful!
As far as rain/water damage goes...the rice bag trick has worked for me in the past, as well as taking the phone apart and cleaning all the contacts, etc with alcohol.
My phone is in for repair (thankfully under warranty) at the moment, so i'm half feeling your pain.
Good luck!
Thanks Drag-on.
Thanks for the advise guys, will let you know how I get on
If it can start and operate, the device is probably able to be safe. At this moment, the moisture in the electronic board is shorting out. I would start with using a hair drier to dry out the moisture. Hot air it a few minutes and cycle this a few times within an hour should have the moisture removed. Hopefully, there are no residue left behind by the water that is 'conductive'.
For proper cleaning, I think the best is use either alcohol swaps or contact cleaner aerosol to clean the PCB boards, buttons.
Hope it will recover.
my topaz is having similar problems as mentioned by the OP but it didn't get wet ever. however the humidity has been on the higher side for last 2-3 weeks at this place, could that be the reason for this misbehaviour? the h/w keys (except for power button) and volume keys are not working at all as i make this post
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my topaz is having similar problems as mentioned by the OP but it didn't get wet ever. however the humidity has been on the higher side for last 2-3 weeks at this place, could that be the reason for this misbehaviour? the h/w keys (except for power button) and volume keys are not working at all as i make this post
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Have you tried placing in a bag of rice to draw the moisture out?
Not sure if humidity could cause this but it's worth a try.
Otherwise I would assume worn contact points.
i dont have any idea about "bag of rice" yet so didnt try. but i kept it shut down for the whole night and buttons are working right now. it could def be the moisture problem.
PS: so while trying out this 'bag of rice' thing, should i disassemble the phone first or just i've to keep it as such? and as i said it never got wet, would it be better to just use a hair dryer?
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i dont have any idea about "bag of rice" yet so didnt try. but i kept it shut down for the whole night and buttons are working right now. it could def be the moisture problem.
PS: so while trying out this 'bag of rice' thing, should i disassemble the phone first or just i've to keep it as such? and as i said it never got wet, would it be better to just use a hair dryer?
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The hair dryer can push the moisture around and cause more damage. Plus if its on heat, that too can damage something.
For the rice, just get a zip lock bag, put the rice in it then place the phone on top and seal the bag. No need to disassemble. The rice will draw the moisture out. I think a few hours would be suficient.
Glad you got it working again.
Bruce Inman said:
The hair dryer can push the moisture around and cause more damage. Plus if its on heat, that too can damage something.
For the rice, just get a zip lock bag, put the rice in it then place the phone on top and seal the bag. No need to disassemble. The rice will draw the moisture out. I think a few hours would be suficient.
Glad you got it working again.
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thanks Bruce, i'll try the Rice method and till then i'll just keep it turned off with no battery inside.
Just a short update about using rice, obviously you will use uncooked rice. Also, if you have or can find the vacumn bags, put the rice and phone and battery in the bag and get as much air out as you. The vacumn will help in pulling the moisture out of the device, and of course the rice absorbs the moisture. I used this trick on a Moto Razr that had been completely under water while on. Powered down, removed battery, rice, phone, battery into ziplock vacumn bag, one day later...perfect condition.
none of the methods mentioned above worked, so i took it to HTC service centre and it turns out that the motherboard has to be replaced which is gonna cost around 160 USD.
!Aman! said:
none of the methods mentioned above worked, so i took it to HTC service centre and it turns out that the motherboard has to be replaced which is gonna cost around 160 USD.
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Ouch!, you can get a new phone for that.
Sorry Bro....
Bruce Inman said:
Ouch!, you can get a new phone for that.
Sorry Bro....
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yeah, and my warranty was over just a month ago. so its just unfortunate and my bad luck
Don´t panic
Thats´s ok, my Topaz have felt into a water, LCD haven´t works, SD slot have been destroyed.. I send it for guarantee, and they made it everything ok for free I get new button, new LCD and motherboard for free.. Try to send it
EDIT: woops, warranty ended.. Go, and make grave for your device
Hey Guys,
For the last few hours, the touchscreen of my Milestone is acting very erratically. When I turn the phone on, it works for a few seconds (sometimes minutes) and then suddenly stops working. And then when I turn off the screen and turn on again after a while, it again works for a while.
And when it stops working, sometimes it totally fails to register any tap, sometimes it has ghost touch and sometimes it registers a tap when I press very strongly. I have noticed that the problem mainly occurs in the right side of the screen. And the soft touch buttons at the bottom are affected as well.
Is my phone done? Pls help me. I really cannot afford to buy another phone at this time.. PLS help!!
Ok, since no one seems interested, I better post an update myself. I did some searching and found some info. One of the probable causes could be moisture getting into the digitiser. Although it didn't rain today, it was pretty hot and I sweated a lot, so it is possible that the sweat somehow got into it.
So heres the solution I am trying now. I pulled the battery, sim and MicroSd, opened the keyboard and put the whole thing in an airtight bag of PUFFED rice( they are much better dehumidifiers than uncooked rice). Lets see what happens after a few hours.. Wish me luck...
This is surely the problem dude... humidity to digitizer.
Happened to me too... what i did was pull everything off and applied cold hair drier for 5 min.
For me worked like a charm.
Sent from my Milestone using XDA Premium App
Ok, so the phone was in the bag of puffed rice for the whole of the night. I put everything back and turned it on, and it seems to be working now. Thank God! Hope the problem doesn't resurface..
Hey there,
I'm having a similar problem with my Milestone.
Just wondered what puffed rice is and where do I get it from? Is there anything else I can use to moisturize my phone.
Thanks
Actually the easier way is to just buy the digitizer from ebay, and replace it yourself
Easier????
Be interested in what your definition of easier is Puffed rice is Rice Bubbles, a breakfast cereal. You can also just use plain rice, the idea is that it will create a dry environment and absorb any moisture. You can actually put the rice in the fridge as well, its actually a very dry environment as well. My daughter dropped a phone into a lake once, stayed in the water for about 10 minutes (was flashing strange lights and vibration from being shorted). Wasn't working when she showed it to me a day later, we put it in a bowl of rice in the fridge a day later, she thought I was slightly insane but it actually worked after that!
had the same issue too , screen was acting very strange...like taking the worng command or not calibrated,or like...someoneelse playing on the screen like a mad man...after cleaning the display problem not solved...thought was the digitizer but...voila...before ordering one,just thought about making a hard reset cause the software was actig quite slow lately and voila...problem solved...so...if it's not the moisture ...it's the software......or at least in my case ... make a backup on your sd card,and do a software reset..if after that still doesn't work,you know for sure u need a replacement part
I did was pull everything off, and applied heat (70ºC) heater for 4 hours.
I put everything back and turned it on, and it´s working ok!
morjul said:
I did was pull everything off, and applied heat (70ºC) heater for 4 hours.
I put everything back and turned it on, and it´s working ok!
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I have the same issue, i will try using the rice/salt bag to dry it out, but i think my problem is the motherbord cable ribbon... anyone replaced it with success?
Ok here is my issue. Last night my phone fell in water, and was still working so I turned it off to let it dry put it in a bag of rice etc. phone kept turning on by it self, I was debating if I should try and extract the pics right then and there but I kept telling my self the phone just fell in the water and its working let me turn it off so it can dry ( the smart thing to do right?)
well I turned on about 2 more times finally got it in the bag of rice and didn't turn back on by it self after that ( I don't think )
Well this morning I went to turn it on and nothing, put it on the charger nothing.
I just had a summer vacation and all my pics are on there with no backups, I am willing to try just about anything to extract these pictures any suggestions?
I also have a small theory that maybe the phone died, and charging port is not working from water?
Thanks in advance, really hope someone can help/
I know this doesn't help you. But this is the reason that I backup pictures I can't do without to picasa. Google plus has the auto backup thing. Good luck extracting the pics.
sotorious said:
Ok here is my issue. Last night my phone fell in water, and was still working so I turned it off to let it dry put it in a bag of rice etc. phone kept turning on by it self, I was debating if I should try and extract the pics right then and there but I kept telling my self the phone just fell in the water and its working let me turn it off so it can dry ( the smart thing to do right?)
well I turned on about 2 more times finally got it in the bag of rice and didn't turn back on by it self after that ( I don't think )
Well this morning I went to turn it on and nothing, put it on the charger nothing.
I just had a summer vacation and all my pics are on there with no backups, I am willing to try just about anything to extract these pictures any suggestions?
I also have a small theory that maybe the phone died, and charging port is not working from water?
Thanks in advance, really hope someone can help/
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If the phone's completely dead, then there's nothing you can do. That's been confirmed by developers and moderators in a similar thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1414049 ... just go to the nearest service center and see if they can somehow extract the data from the memory, in case it's still intact. Also, I had a similar water accident several years ago with my old phone ... it started working again after several days of drying on a warm place. So put it back in the bag of rice and leave it for several days. Bear in mind that One has an aluminium body which is always cold (especially when the phone's not working and internal hardware can't heat it up), so that won't help in the drying process. If you don't succeed to power it back on, then the service center is your only solution. Good luck mate!
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Ok here is my issue. Last night my phone fell in water, and was still working so I turned it off to let it dry put it in a bag of rice etc. phone kept turning on by it self, I was debating if I should try and extract the pics right then and there but I kept telling my self the phone just fell in the water and its working let me turn it off so it can dry ( the smart thing to do right?)
well I turned on about 2 more times finally got it in the bag of rice and didn't turn back on by it self after that ( I don't think )
Well this morning I went to turn it on and nothing, put it on the charger nothing.
I just had a summer vacation and all my pics are on there with no backups, I am willing to try just about anything to extract these pictures any suggestions?
I also have a small theory that maybe the phone died, and charging port is not working from water?
Thanks in advance, really hope someone can help/
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put it back in the bag of rice for a few days. don't touch it and definitely don't try to power it on. the only way the phone can get damaged (any more) is by turning it on. as long as it's off, no damage can be done.
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Bear in mind that One has an aluminium body which is always cold
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Aluminum is a good thermal conductor, so it draws heat from your hand faster than other materials, making it feel colder, even though it's the same temperature.
Hello.
There's water in connectors (from keyboard, screen, plugs, ect... to motherboard), the only way is to completely dissamble the phone for remove each drop of water.
If no, it append this thing, the phone died because oxydation corrupt contacts and "eat" the copper tracks of printed circuits, so, there's no communication between parts.
The rice cannot blow this water because connectors are very tiny and deep inside the phone.
You need an electronician for trying to rework the tracks (big deal) and clean connectors.
I already rebirth an SGS1 by this way.
I vote for "keep it in the rice" for a few days.
You may be pleasantly surprised.
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I vote for "keep it in the rice" for a few days.
You may be pleasantly surprised.
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Thanks for the help guys just wanted to update, I took sim tray slot out, left it in the bag of rice for a bit longer, and then the phone started charging. I extracted everything I needed to from the phone and got my pics out.
Phone has been working great, only thing now is there is some condensation on the camera lens. I might stick it back into some rice again and see if I can get that out.
I managed to spill water on my (waterproof) phone this saturday, drunkenly, and just thought "meh, it's waterproof" and half-heartedly wiped off the water before going to sleep. so I woke up the next morning to a message saying "moisture detected in usb-port: turning off auto-detection", which I didn't see for a few days. no problems whatsoever for almost a week. then it started raining while I was listening to music, and my phone suddenly started displaying the same message over and over again, pausing my music every time, saying I had to manually enable auto-detection to use any USB-devices. now of course, the xz2 doesn't have an aux-port, so I need to use the usb-port to listen to music. ever since the rain, I haven't been able to listen to more than 1 minute of music without it cutting it off, and at times I can't even listen to one second of music before it shuts off.
There is no problem with the usb-port - everything works great - except that it somehow think there's still moist, thereby repeatedly cutting of my joy of listening to music.
I've looked and looked at the settings and can't find out how to manually enable auto-detection, so now I'm asking you guys... do you know what I have to tinker with to be able to turn off the auto-detection of moisture, instead of the other way around?
This might not help, but try turning the phone off and leave it in a bowl of uncooked rice for and hour or so...it's worked in the past for me with other phones.
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This might not help, but try turning the phone off and leave it in a bowl of uncooked rice for and hour or so...it's worked in the past for me with other phones.
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Hey, thanks for the answer.
It hasn't really occured to me to try this, as my phone was dry for 5 days before the rain and has been dry for two days since the rain and the problem still persists. But I'll try it later tonight. Thanks for the suggestion!
mispace said:
Hey, thanks for the answer.
It hasn't really occured to me to try this, as my phone was dry for 5 days before the rain and has been dry for two days since the rain and the problem still persists. But I'll try it later tonight. Thanks for the suggestion!
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Or those little packs of silica that come with electronics work well.
Turns out it was the USB-C to AUX cable that was faulty. Switched it out with a new one and the problem went away
I got splashed by a big wave on a catamaran at sea the otherday while the xz2c was in my pocket. Dried the phone. All is well, including charging, but get the enoying recurring automatic usb detection warning. Since than no usb connection is possible with the pc. So charging yes, usb-communication no. Should I give up on this "water proof" phone?
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I got splashed by a big wave on a catamaran at sea the otherday while the xz2c was in my pocket. Dried the phone. All is well, including charging, but get the enoying recurring automatic usb detection warning. Since than no usb connection is possible with the pc. So charging yes, usb-communication no. Should I give up on this "water proof" phone?
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Water proof, but not saltwater proof
There is no durable saltwater protection for smartphones.
The salt makes corrosion and weakens the water protection isolation like acid.
I would clean the USB with normal water to wash out the salt crystals.