Hi,
I have a small problem which I hope there already is a solution to.
When I use the GPRS/Edge it costs me about $3/MB so of course I don't want to use it when not necessary.
The problem is that when using Wifi if the connection is lost the phone can switch to GPRS/Edge without me knowing which can be expensive. Is there a program or setting of some sort so I have to "press ok" each time I want to use GPRS?
I can change the settings so I always use Wifi but then I have to change the settings every time I want to use GPRS.
In short:
Default should be Wifi and if Wifi is not available I want the phone to switch to GPRS after I have "pressed ok".
There is an app called 'NoData' which will totally disable GPRS for you.
Of course, when you want to use the GPRS, you simply toggle it back on and away you go.
Can't remember where I found it now, but it's around the site somewhere. Maybe search in the development and hacking forum??
I believe it is also built in to some of the custom ROMs already.
indeed, its called nodata from modaco...
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-software/246171/new-free-utility/
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Is it possible for me to modify the phone so that it can only do internet access through the wifi and never through the cell towers / providers? I don't have a data plan and don't want it to get ran up with internet stuff when the wifi is out of range. If there is another thread for this could you point me to it? I couldn't find it doing a search. Thanks all.
Daniel herrero CommMgrPro is the answer
hum I thought that app only allowed you to completely disable a service. I'm just looking to block the cell phone from using the cell service provider for internet stuff but still use it for calls and text messages. is that possible with the software? if so I might be looking at the wrong software or wrong version.
There is a program called nodata do search for it, that's what I use.
TW,
I'm in the same boat (no data plan but have constant access to use hotspots). MoDaCo NoData is what I use (lets you select/toggle connects).
The cab can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345168&highlight=nodata
Why not just enter incorrect data connection settings? Then your phone can't access the data network, and no worries.
thanks guys, looks like just what i want. cell phone comes in tomorrow afternoon and i'll be spending all day playing with this. thanks again.
Friends,
Anyone know the hack how to remove the 3G icon via registry hack? I looked around and didn't see anything out there.
Also, I no longer use AT&T data plan, how do I automatically set wifi connection to trigger when viewing web pages, email?
Please advise and thank you for your help!
tvos
1)Dont think you can remove the 3G icon, but i use wktask to cover it up and other unwanted icons(battery, volume, etc) its adjustable.
2)If you dont use the dataplan i suggest using Modacco Nodata to disable gprs and medianet. Its a good way to make sure you dont accidently use their service. can save you a loottt of money!
3)As for automatically set wifi, dont think there is one. Its just best to leave it on. In my opinion wifi doesnt consume that much battery when its on(aside from just being used to surf, etc. and it shuts off when phone is sleeping). But then again, you have to consider the issues of wifi availability, and configuration settings(wep, etc).
thank you for the quick reply!
I figured a way how to keep medianet, that is in the network settings by not selecting it for primary dial connection.
Looked everywhere to turn off the GPRS icon couldn't find it.
tvos
heres another quick reply!
as mentioned in my earlier post, use this for a quick way to enable/disable medianet and gprs.
Thanx for the info..
The one thing that bothers me is the GPRS icon at the top with the message "no data connections are found" message.
I wish there was a way to remove that.
tvos
Can anyone tell me how this works on the wings.
When using Fring you can actually tell it to conect via wifi etc. but what i want to know is does mesenger do it as well or does it go straight to the gprs. Also when you go online via IE. does it default to the GPRS. I dont see anything that says to use the WIFI conection first and it looks like messenger and IE use the GPRS instead even though i have wifi enabled or am i wrong here.
Thanks ahead
By default, all aplications (IE Mobile, Messaging...) use GPRS, 3G (or other cellular network). If WiFi is on and available, all aplications are using WiFi instead of GPRS. (Only Fring has a bit different connection handling)
What Moneytoo said, only sometimes when I enable WiFi on the phone it wont turn off the data connection so I usually do that manually in the connection manager.
When you are discussing the process of connecting to gprs, I will add one question. Is there a posibillity to initiate 3G/GPRS connection without any app? E.G.: When I want to initiate a connection, I have to use some app which initiates it itself. But there are some, which can't handle this - so I have to for example check my e-mail first (altough I don't need it at the moment) and then the connection stays on and I can use second app. The button in conn manager for data connection is disabled, so I can't use it.
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OK thats good to know as i always have the wifi on at home. Just wasnt sure if messenger and IE use it or not as to be honust i dont see any diff. in load speed etc. I would have thought it would work faster via wifi the say gprs.
phailo said:
When you are discussing the process of connecting to gprs, I will add one question. Is there a posibillity to initiate 3G/GPRS connection without any app? E.G.: When I want to initiate a connection, I have to use some app which initiates it itself. But there are some, which can't handle this - so I have to for example check my e-mail first (altough I don't need it at the moment) and then the connection stays on and I can use second app. The button in conn manager for data connection is disabled, so I can't use it.
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Very true, but I notice (and speculate) that you only cannot select enable or disable the Data connection unless you change or add another connection, or the phone is using it. If I wake up in the morning my phone is using data since I have the HTC home screen with its weather application, hit comm mngr and data is grayed out, but once the phone wakes up or I select Wifi and it starts working again the option to disable data comes up.
For me I just load or refresh the weather page and my data is connected, its set to always be on and since my plan is unlimited I dont worry about it.
NoNco said:
OK thats good to know as i always have the wifi on at home. Just wasnt sure if messenger and IE use it or not as to be honust i dont see any diff. in load speed etc. I would have thought it would work faster via wifi the say gprs.
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Depends on what you are loading honestly, a page that your mobile browser has to read, compress resize and modefy to display properly will take time to load while it does all of this regardless of how fast your connection is. Could also depend on what others are using your connection for and if your on the B or G standard. Overall I notice a fairly good increase from using Wifi but I am only on Edge here which caps at about 20kb/s where 3g can get into several Mbits/s
So, I had another topic about gprs but now I'd really like to know how to force the wifi over gprs. Also how to disable the gprs without deleting the settings ?
No need to make another thread about the same topic which is one below this one.
Best way I have found is in the comm manager disable the data connection and enable wifi, some things like weather and such have issues using wifi for updates, and sometimes I found texts would not go through on just wifi.
Then when your done disable wifi and trigger the gprs to reconnect, just remember not all applications like to work on wifi.
It doesn't work like that. Eve though I disable data connection and enable wifi (which connects ok), phone still insist of connecting to gprs.
Is this really this stupid thing that I must delete my gprs, which I use daily anyway but which is extremely expensive when traveling to other countries and using it there.
Hello,
on my Diamond, I have e-mail receiving set to "manually" and both weather downloading options unchecked. However, very often, the phone tries to connect to GPRS without asking me for permission. Few days ago, I was playing with my phone, what caused turning off NoData (I dunno why - I have neither turned the Internet profile to "enable" in its settings nor uninstalled NoData). A few moments later, I was VERY suprised to see that.. phone was connected to the GPRS for over 40 minutes! I thought that it'd make my bill like $50 higher. However, it raised my bill for only ~$0,5. I have no idea neither why did it connect nor what did it wanted to do with GPRS connection. Do you have such problems either? What's the matter? How can I fix this so my phone won't want to connect without my demand? Thanks in advance.
NoData should be enough, but I don't know why it reset to enabled if you didn't do this yourself? That said, all it does is toggle some registry settings so perhaps one of the other 'tweak' apps (have you got any installed?) reset the settings...?
Mathew
Yeah, I think that other tweaking apps could make it - that was my first thought. I have Diamond Tweak and Advanced Config installed and I was playing with them, so they could change the settings. My problem though is not to make Diamond unable to connect GPRS - because NoData does everything I want in that matter. I want to know why Diamond wants to connect, while forecast and e-mails checking are off. It'd be great to know that, because maybe then it'd be possible to be sure that (even without NoData) Diamond wouldn't connect to the Internet when we don't want it to do it.
With gprs it's all about the traffic.. the more you download, the more you pay.. I deleted the settings, so it can't connect, even when it wants to.. Only use wifi anyway..
U can enable NoData, but I think it's still possible to manually turn on the connection. NoData won't work then, unless you re-enable and softreset..
djind - oh man, I know how does GPRS work and what do I pay for..
I'll repeat once again, cause I think not everyone got this right. I want to know, WHY does Diamond want to connect to GPRS if it DOESN'T want to download forecast or e-mails. I'd love to have no situations with Diamond trying to connect - without NoData, without deleting settings. Just NO CONNECTING without my CLEAR DEMAND.
Then, please tell me what can make my Diamond want to connect.
You said u were playing around, so opening a page or checking and immediately unchecking weather download or any program using gprs would trigger the connection.. or mayme by accident pressed something..
It's done like that to increase your phone company's income
How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)
Just delete the setting if nothing work, and use wifi...
I actually have unlimited 3G service, so i don't really care if it stayed connected or not (and battery is not really a issue for me..)
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How about disabling the gprs auto-attachment option found in diamindtweak (or was it advanced config)
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That's not going to help in this instance. Disabling auto-attachment merely stops the phone resgistering itself as a GPRS-enabled device with the network until it actually requires a data connection to be established. Hence, as soon as the OP's 'rogue app' requests a connection it will get one.
Tigrowski, sorry for the confusion - I was specifically answering your question of how to stop the phone connecting without your demand. I am not aware of an app that could identify this rogue app, but perhaps if you find a packet sniffer that'd give you some clues (i.e. from where the traffic is going, ports etc and, if using cleartext ASCII the actual data being sent).
All said and done though, I think you'd be better of just relying on NoData to put the barrier up as even when you've identified the rogue app you might not be able to make it behave. Besides which there'll likely be another one round the corner wanting to connect when it feels like it! (that was one of the reasons behind why NoData was developed, particularly for roaming users given the significant financial impact of out-of-control network-enabled apps)
Mathew
P.S. It's not QuickGPS periodically downloading almanac data is it? (check the setting as this can be controlled, although it should only be doing so weekly anyway)