Hey all,
I've managed to get a far better response on my keyboard by making a simple change. I find it surprising that the keyboard issue only affects Pocket Outlook, I've never had a problem elsewhere.
Anyway, the fix is to change the keyboard repeat settings. In Settings/System/Keyboard, click "Repeats Setting" and increase the "Delay before first repeat". Now this is where it gets wierd...Outlook actually ignores this setting. It's labeled as "up/down key repeat setting" and it does actually control the up/down action on the Today screen in the same way as the same control on a regular computer. But it doesn't work on the hardware keyboard on the phone, and I expect that this incompatibility leads to the problem. It reminds me a lot of http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Switch#Contact_bounce in electronics, basically you aren't getting a clean "key down" then "key up" event from each keypress.
Hope this helps some of you!
The problem in Messaging is that every time you type a letter into the message field the horizontal scrollbar appears and disappears. This happens every keypress. Since keypress = keyDown + keyUp, and the scrollbar appears during keyDown, the OS sometimes (quite often when you type fast) misess the keyUp event, repeating and repeating and repeating the processing of keyDown event.
The kb lag is present in ALL apps (try typing FAST in Notes), but most of the apps do not do anything specific between keyDown and keyUp, thus the lag is not as easy to 'notice'.
Yeah, I still get the scrollbar problem, however before making this change Messaging was completely unusable for me. I had to wait 1sec between key presses otherwise I just get gobbledygook on the screen. It was very frustrating and I assumed that's what people refered to by "keyboard lag". The scrollbar thing is a different problem altogether and just a minor annoyance for me now, a purely visual one.
At the moment I can type "the quick brown fox..." in both Messaging and Notes at full speed with no errors. Yesterday I could not do that in Messaging at all.
Yup... The MOST annoying thing about the kblag is the backspace-key auto-repeat :|
I just slided the setting to 7 and it's great now. Thanks fraser.
There are two small buttons (each marked with a small horizontal line) on the keyboard. The left is over the letters R and T. It is assigned to the "Send" button for email. The trouble is that it is very easy to hit by accident when typing R or T, and then the email flies off prematurely! The right one is assigned to the Menu and if you hit it by accident, it is easy to correct (just hit the OK button). Is there a way of remapping these two buttons? Except for this issue, the email with Kaiser is perfect. Does the AT&T Tilt have the same problem?
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
Anyone else got a solution to this problem, I'm fed up with sending half-finished e-mails!
I haven't played with AE Button Plus, but if you can assign "No Action" to a button (which some of the add-ons let you do) and do that for the messaging app specifically, then that would be a solution to the problem of large fingers/thumbs. The you could remap one of the FN keys you never use to the context menu or send...
TexasPenguin said:
Err... I don't think this addresses the problem the OP has. I too suffer from this problem (must be big fingers!).
When using Outlook the soft keys change function so remapping the Today Calendar softkey, for example, doesn't help.
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As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
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As PerfAlbion pointed out, you can just remap them to nothing. I remapped these keys, not because of the problem with the keyboard, but simply because I never used them since it's just as easy to use the touch screen. But if you want to maintain the softkey functionality on those buttons, use AE button to map a single press to nothing, and a double-click (or even a click-hold) to the softkey function. You would then still be able to use them for their original purpose, but they wouldn't be as easy to accidentally activate.
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys - AE ButtonPlus specifically says this in it's FAQ. Remapping the "send" key is application-specific - it only becomes the Send key when you launch Outlook. So how did you manage to re-map this key?
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I'm sorry, I must be missing something obvious here.
Any of the soft button remappers will NOT work on application-specific softkeys...
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The distinction is between remapping the softkey, or remapping the hardkey that correlates to the softkey. What the remappers can't do is change the function of the softkey... if, for example, Outlook is coded to make the left softkey the send key, you can't change that. That's programmed in to Outlook. But what you CAN change is whether or not the hard button that corresponds to the left softkey is recognized as the left softkey. For example, I've remapped the single press of the hard keys that correspond to the L & R softkeys to copy and paste, respectively. If I open Outlook, the soft softkey (the button on the touchscreen) is still going to be send. But my hard button is no longer mapped to be a softkey, it's mapped to be copy.
I used all the programs from the thread that you pointed out, including the cab file that was mentioned. This allowed me to change the left front soft key but does not affect the assignment of the left keyboard soft key as "Reply" when in email mode and with the keyboard slided out. Is there a way to change the left soft key assignment only for the email (eliminate the reply option) or just inactivate the left soft key altogether? I have installed the SoftKey applet form your thread in my Settings.
I sent my reply to one of the earlier messages wihout having read all the answers that came after it....I was out of the office for a couple of hours..my apologies. I will find the AE button plus and give it a try, but is there any registry solution? they usually work the best.
I downloaded and used the AE Button Plus, and it worked! I set it to double press and that did the trick. The program is very good by the way, the only one that allows multiple pressing options, etc.Many thanks!
I have benefited from this thread!
Thanks everybody.
Adequate description on the issue provided, and adequate solutions and then a follow up post.
A really appealing solution would be to isolate the keyboard softkeys from the front ones. I tried the double press method but it turned out to be incredibly annoying and I'm not sure that constant annoyance is outweighed by an accidental softkey hit on the keyboard. What I'd like to do is disable the keyboard softkeys while leaving the front ones completely intact on a single press.
I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
dscline said:
See my thread here. Those are the same as the softkeys on the font keypad (so remapping one remaps the other). I ended up using AE Button Plus to remap those (and other keys) to other functions, which I like because of the additional functionality that can be assigned to double clicks, triple clicks, etc. But if you just want to remap it to something else, check that thread for some alternatives.
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Thank you, AE Button Plus worked great. I just deactivated the "Left Softkey" and now I don't have to take care of that damned button anymore.
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I find it surprising that you even need to use the softkeys, period. I came to the Kaiser from a Smartphone edition phone (no touchscreen), which I had for for over two years. So I was completely accustomed to using the smartkeys. Yet, surprisingly, once I got the Kaiser, I found myself immediately and instinctually accessing their functionality from the touchscreen rather than the hard buttons. Perhaps because the hard buttons aren't directly under the screen like they were on my smartphone, so the tie betwee the label and the button wasn't as obvious as it was on the smartphone.
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I've been using touchscreen pocket pc's for a while and no such instinct has kicked in.
so no one has an answer besides installing that AE button plus prog on the phone?
try removing the actual key. i wouldn't try it but it may work.
I'm really glad I found this thread, I keep sending half written and blank sms messages because of the left soft and keep doing weird things because of the right one. It's gonna cost me a fortune in text messages so I'm gonna go try that prog mentioned.
It would be better for a solution more specific to the application but this is certainly better than nothing!
the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
firstbuddha said:
the best solution I can think of is:
- remove the sender name whilst creating email.
if you accidently hit send it will prompt for sender info. when you are ready to send, simply insert the contact details in and all is well.
hope this helps some of you
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I think we have a WINNER SOLUTION
Hi i have a problem with my MDA IV Compact. I searched the forums but found no answer to my problem.
I want to do some basic button remapping and so i go to settings -> personal -> buttons and guess what. There are NO buttons listed in the buttons list.
Has anyone come across this before and if so can you help me solve it? I mean there are only few hardware buttons present in diamond its a shame not to be able to map them.
Button mapping...
The only button you can map by default is the long press of the 'dial' hardware key. This should be showing in your button list as 'Button 1(Hold)'. There is an application called GScroll available here, which lets you map the four hardware keys by touch (double tapping them). Not exactly what you're after, but it's all I can think of to help you out
thats thing. i get NO buttons on my list gscroll looks nice. too bad its not free ware. but its cheap so i may get it.
you can use dredsensor
this tool allow you to remap buttons depending on running programs
No, no, no!
Diamond CAN have its call key remapped via Windows.
I had the opposite; a glitch entry appeared in the buttons list.
I am attaching a reg-file which will bring back the call button mapping. But be careful, this comes from Windows with localization patch.
Or, you can hard reset. If MDA CIV ROM creators didn't remove it intentionally, it should be there.
I would like KforTP integrated onto my Fuze keyboard, but only for the shortcut keys on the bottom, while leaving every other key alone. This would most likely involve changing the keyboard input ROM or something. I'm not sure what to do, but if anyone could make a cab adjusting those 4 keys, that would be very helpful so people who don't use the shortcut keys on the bottom don't have to activate/unactivate KforTP every time a game emulator is used. Information would also be helpful too, thanks
Hello everyone,
Is there any way (a registry hack, I guess) to disable vibrate when dialling numbers using the phone keypad? I have not been able to find it anywhere yet. Those short vibrations are -- in my opinion -- useless and only drain the battery...
Any help would be much appreciated.
nvx
nvx2004 said:
Hello everyone,
Is there any way (a registry hack, I guess) to disable vibrate when dialling numbers using the phone keypad? I have not been able to find it anywhere yet. Those short vibrations are -- in my opinion -- useless and only drain the battery...
Any help would be much appreciated.
nvx
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try to look the trick at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=9436315&postcount=7
Dear Hakim,
I am afraid that the mentioned registry hack, i.e.:
Using Resco Registry, go to Hkey Local Machine / Software / HTC / ezsip
Add a new DWORD Value string and call it "VibrationEnabled" (without the quotes) and give it a value of 0.
then Soft reset and enjoy!
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is of no use to me, because the string "VibrationEnabled" has already been present and held the value of zero. I believe this disables vibration related to the usual keyboard, not the phone keypad I am concerned with.
Anyway, thank you for your response.
Have a nice day,
nvx
I think there is no hardware keyboard in any variant of Diamond2. Are you sure it has one?
If you are looking for onscreen keypad vibration: Go to settings tab - personalize - Vibration: and you have check box to de-select.
Dear TD2IN,
You are right, there is no HW keyboard in Diamond2. However, there are several software keyboards, e.g. the usual QWERTY one (a "full" keyboard) or the phone keypad (similar to keypads on older cell phones with letters "a", "b" and "c" on 2, letters "d", "e" and "f" on 3, etc.). Disabling vibration upon pressing a key on the QWERTY software keyboard is easy and can be done (as you wrote) in Settings -> Personal -> Input -> ...
However, I am concerned with disabling vibration for the phone keypad (used primarily for entering phone numbers in the phone application) which cannot be done at the same place as disabling vibration for the QWERTY keyboard.
Have a great day.
nvx
I will also like to know this if you find solution.
thanks.