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Well, I am all prepared to buy the Kaiser when it hits the market. I am already looking at the GPS software packages out there for my Kaiser (hopefully GPS is not locked to Telenav). Even if it is locked, I am pretty sure all the good cooks out here will modify the ROM to fix this. What are you all thinking about using?
I've been using Route 66 on my Wizard and it works quite well. DeLorme Pocket Street Atlas is OK but the maps and routing aren't as good.
Lots of people swear by TomTom, and a few reviewers/testers have used it on their pre-production Kaisers. Both semsons.com & buygpsnow.com have a wide selection of GPS software packages.
I use tomtom and find it great.
i think ill also use tomtom. which one is the best?
ive never owned a gps device, so that's the only software ive really heard of..
I've been using OCN6 with my Wizard. . . anxious to see if it works with the Kaiser/8925/Tilt.
Route66 for me. I want my traffic information without having to pay a subscription...
Only thing that could be improved is the frequency of the map updates, where TomTom is the clear winner, but I've had no problems with my R66 map accuracy so far.
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
Try Mapopolis...
I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
Mapopolis has a GPS TRAIL option that logs your trip at preset intervals (every 5 minutes, 5 miles or whatever). All you have to do then is use the Location SMS feature of WM6 with pictures attached at capture the places you want. From there, you can create a nice Trip Photo Album with coordinates or send the trip via email.
TEC
I can't really compare software as I have only used Tomtom, but I have always found the program great and have never felt tempted to even try another software package because it has always worked so well.
With my 8525 I purchased the Garmin Mobile 10 which is this awesome little gps receiver that fits in your palm. It's bluetooth and all I do is put the tiny thing in my pocket. It uses Garmin software and works amazingly well. I'm wondering whether this would be MORE accurate than the built in GPS receiver in the Kaiser. If this is more accurate then I'll keep on using it but if the 8925 works just as well then I'll probably sell the garmin.
southy said:
regarding the GPS:
Does anyone of you know wether there is GPS Software that could pull images from google maps?
Like a "show me satellite image of my current location" - button?
I think that would be really cool, but does it already exist?
And secondly, I'm looking for a GPS - Software that runs in the background and logs the GPS coordinates in order to geotag photos from my digicam later. Any recommendations here?
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u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
ksjulsen said:
u should check this out, i just found out about it yesterday
Pdafun.net
its a program called "Google Navigator"
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Wow great find. The downside to this software though is it requires an internet connection to connect to google when planning routes. So, if you don't have coverage then youre going to get lost.
MDA Vario III
The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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I own "iGuidance" which works on the PocketPC .. will test it out once I have the Kaiser
*crossing fingers*
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If anybody wants to send me a Kaiser I will try several packages out and report back in a review format.......
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The Vario III will be coming with CoPilot out of the box (there are having alot of problems in the testing of this cant cant make it work) they are also having problems gettin the WiFi stay on. So all you UK users who are after the Vario III (me included) will be waiting till the start of Oct
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Says here its coming with tom tom taster version
http://www.4winmobile.com/forums/wi...tytn-ii-europe-ultimate-mobile-companion.html
I'll be using iGuidance, as it's what I'm using now on my Hermes...
I'll be using TomTom Nav 6. It also has a satelite download but I've never used it.
I just got my TyTN II and installed iguidance 3.0.1.
It doesn't actually start most of the time. It appears to run once after a reboot but then not again.
I can see the exe in the process list but the app is not actually running. or never finishes starting.
So maybe i will give tom tom a try. LOL
Edit: Oh actually i ran it and waited 10 minutes and the program actually launched.. so there are definitely a few issues.
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I use Mapopolis and it works and looks great on my ETEN X500+ VGA device. I'll use it when I get the Kaiser too. The resolution will go down but I still love the program.
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Actually, I'd love if someone with a Kaiser would try Mapopolis - just load the Los Angeles, USA map and see if it's usable. My Hermes dogs out completely at high zoom levels - I'm presuming due to only 64MB of memory vs the 128MB in my old iPAQ 5555. (By "dogs out" I mean drag-panning the map is extremely jerky and category searches take near to a minute!)
Mapopolis' POI management is second to none, and it's had text-to-speech for ages. TomTom v6.030 is the latest PocketPC version I've found and it still has no text-to-speech, won't allow you to add your own POIs to the canned categories, etc.
Richard
I've put TomTom on my Tilt, and I'm curious about a few things.
BlueTooth
Natively not being able to hear it through my Blue Tooth headset (Motorola 700) I installed the BT Audio referenced in another thread. It works, except if you do anything else, such as take a call, use MS Voice command, etc, you then need to re-enable it, which is annoying.
Does using another BT device, such as a stereo headset, work better with Tomtom?
TomTom Plus Stuff
Has anyone in the U.S. purchased any of their services, in particular Points of INterest, and found them of any value? I find the included POI to be a little skimpy (as have others per threads I've read). IN particular, I'm interested in the JiWire HotSpots.
Not in the US but i've definatley found that the speed camera POI's to be a good investment.
Just passed my Driving test (ok im a later starter at 34) a couple of weeks ago so anything that will help me avoid points on my license must be a good thing.
Actually used TomTom on my Kaiser properly for the first time today whilst having to drive up the back roads to Manchester and it worked really well apart from departing once when it decided to think it was flying all around the country (soft reset fixed it though)
I use the TomTom Plus Traffic and it works pretty well. I've been able to avoid long traffic delays/etc very easily with it. I find it to be pretty accurate.
As for POI, I normally install my own. You can search on Google for POIs and you will find a few sites that allows you to create POI files with data.
Thanks for the suggestin on Googling POIs. I don't know why I hadn't thought of that yet.
BTW...the reason I ask about "in the U.S.", is because I can imagine the software, programming and devices may be well supported in Europe, but it seems not necessarily in the U.S. I don't want to purchase something , then find it only works in Europe. They definitely seem to be more up to date in Europe on this product.
Does anyboddy know if you could share the GPS info over BlueTooth? Like connect another device to it and use the TyTN II as a GPS receiver only to send the information over bluetooth to say a TyTN I or I-Mate JasJar that does not have GPS? Try that...................
gps2blue?
Something like this?
http://users.skynet.be/hofinger/GPS2Blue.html
TomTom in USA
Hi,
I bought my Hermes in the UK. I took it to the US in August 2007. I simply loaded the US maps up before I went, arrived, switched on and had no problems in both California and NY.
Can't see it would be different for Kaiser.
Cheers
Through conversations with a few folks I've learned that TomTom is apparently contemplating ceasing any further development on any products for PDA's. They are apparently no longer supporting Nav6 nor will they provide any further map/poi updates for Nav6. They had apparently begun development of Nav7/8 but have suspended that project until a go/no decision is made.
This decision is apparently being driven primarily by significant bootlegging of maps (their primary source of income with Nav software).
I have gotten this info second-hand, but believe it is reliable. Has anyone else heard anything along these lines?
Interesting...
I had to call them to help me activate my maps on my fourth replacement tilt. In the course of conversation, I asked about new maps. And the answer was there were new maps but not for navigator 6....they were developing navigator 7 and were in the process of determining "viability." When I asked if that meant they were thinking of discontinuing it, he backpedaled and said they just want to make sure that everything works with such a wide variety of devices to support - palm, symbian, windows mobile.
With what you heard, it sounds like it could be a possibilty. Shame. It's a good program...
I agree, it's an excellent program and I get a lot of good use out of it, I hope they continue to upgrade and improve it. The ONLY thing I don't like about TomTom Navigator 6 is that it doesn't have Text to Speech, it would be nice to hear "turn right on Yuba Street then turn right on California Street" instead of just "Turn right then turn right".
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Interesting...
I had to call them to help me activate my maps on my fourth replacement tilt. In the course of conversation, I asked about new maps. And the answer was there were new maps but not for navigator 6....they were developing navigator 7 and were in the process of determining "viability." When I asked if that meant they were thinking of discontinuing it, he backpedaled and said they just want to make sure that everything works with such a wide variety of devices to support - palm, symbian, windows mobile.
With what you heard, it sounds like it could be a possibilty. Shame. It's a good program...
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They released new maps this past week for the Nav6 as well as all their other products.
Until you see this on their web site it is just someone's rumor.
http://www.tomtom.com/products/maps/?Lid=4
Bill
Do you know if those truly are new maps? After installing TT on my Kais and downloading the free map for my metro area 5 days ago I've found a large number of outdated things including 1 year old streets not in TT and POI's 1 to 4 years out of date. I'd think that they'd want the map they give you for a trial to get you to purchase from them would be the most up to date.
Can anyone tell what the exact version is of the new maps? From what I can read about them is that they are version 6.75 but they done give the build number. I already have version 6.75.1409. Just wanting to know if they really are newer maps.
So use Google Maps.....
It doesn't have text to speech either but it is FREE! and I suspect the real reason TomTom are no longer going to support the PDA version. Very powerful - search for "KFC" and it will find all the nearest with clickable links to websites, phone numbers, driving directions from current position, from an input address from a contact etc. Everything you could want when you need to top up on Kentucky Fried Chipmunks.....or whatever you need to find.
Of course as it is "live" and downloads maps on the fly you better have an unlimited data plan. But it is cool driving along in Satellite View!
HINT - the CAB is not seperately downloadable. You have to download it direct to your PDA - last time I did it was about 1.5Mb. Though once you have the CAB in memory you can back it up to your PC.
These are not new maps - they are the same as what i downloaded several weeks ago.
This has also been confirmed at the following site
http://www.pocketgpsworld.com/modules.php?name=Forums&file=viewtopic&p=400322#400322
"TomTom have today announced the availability of the v.7.20 maps from the Map Shop as well as the v.8.05 maps for the GOx30 users.
All existing map versions that were previously available from the shop have now been replaced with the new v.720 maps for all PND’s except the GOx30 series. GOx30 owners can now buy new map version v.8.05. Anyone contemplating a map purchase is advised that the maps are device dependent and therefore it is important that you select the exact device model you own to ensure you receive the correct map.
The 7.20 and 8.05 maps are based on TeleAtlas 2008.01 data.
The 6.75 maps will remain available in the Map Shop for NAVIGATOR 6 users and Automotive units (Eclipse, Daihatsu, Toyota) Note: Rider and Rider 2 users can now buy the new v.720 maps (premium maps) from the map shop."
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It doesn't have text to speech either but it is FREE! and I suspect the real reason TomTom are no longer going to support the PDA version. Very powerful - search for "KFC" and it will find all the nearest with clickable links to websites, phone numbers, driving directions from current position, from an input address from a contact etc. Everything you could want when you need to top up on Kentucky Fried Chipmunks.....or whatever you need to find.
Of course as it is "live" and downloads maps on the fly you better have an unlimited data plan. But it is cool driving along in Satellite View!
HINT - the CAB is not seperately downloadable. You have to download it direct to your PDA - last time I did it was about 1.5Mb. Though once you have the CAB in memory you can back it up to your PC.
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The one big disadvantage of google maps is that it DOES require that live connection. If you are in a poor reception - or no reception area - it is hard to get those directions. For me, i would rather have it sitting on my device and just be dependent on the satellites....instead of BOTH satellite and cell tower.
I don't think the have stoped developing v7 because the new HTC Daimond comes with v7 intergrated in the rom. This can be found in several artical on XDA.
There is much to like about google maps. As you mentioned, they are constantly updated, fairly accurate, have tons of useful info, allow you to click on POI's for info, to call POI, or link to POI website.
Unfortunately it doesn't have turn-by-turn capabilities (at least that I've ever seen) or allow you to keep maps on your device (besides costly when roaming, I seem to always find areas without cell service). It doesn't determine your direction of travel with an arrow, only shows a dot. These are the biggies. Some of the route planning and other things that TT or Garmin have are also useful but missing from Goog. Google's love of learning anything and everything about people for their own profit is also a bit disconcerting. Them knowing where I've been, where I am, and where I'm going is perhaps too much.
Telenav only works in the US, Garmin is coming out with their own phone to avoid the pirated maps/revenue issue...
Darren Griffin from PocketGPS forum has written the following statement
"In Amsterdam last week I quizzed TomTom on this and whilst their future plans for PocketPC were vague, they did suggest that piracy had been major issue and 'if' any future releases were planned they would most likely only be in partnership with manufacturers. "
www.pocketgpsworld.com
Article is on the home page discussed under "HTC Launch O2 XDA Diamond in Germany with TomTom v7"
Google
Google does not offer voice guidance or turn-by-turn maps. However, Google does offer a traffic overlay which is free (TomTom charges) and does not require updates.
Oddly, it seems to take TomTom about 10 minutes or so to get a GPS lock. Google (with GPS turned on) seems to take less than a minute. I have never understood that
jwbrint said:
Can anyone tell what the exact version is of the new maps? From what I can read about them is that they are version 6.75 but they done give the build number. I already have version 6.75.1409. Just wanting to know if they really are newer maps.
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I called and the 1409 is the latest version of the map.
Tech support indicates that they have no plans to discontinue the Nav6.
Bill
jdmba said:
Oddly, it seems to take TomTom about 10 minutes or so to get a GPS lock. Google (with GPS turned on) seems to take less than a minute. I have never understood that
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Mine (Kaiser w/ TT) almost always gets GPS lock within about 30 seconds of starting the TT app. This is in US including MN, CA, NY, and GA.
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Mine (Kaiser w/ TT) almost always gets GPS lock within about 30 seconds of starting the TT app. This is in US including MN, CA, NY, and GA.
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Yep, same here, TomTom has a lock and is showing my location in at most 60s when I turn it on while driving. If I'm sitting still, it's less than that.
The Tilt does not seem to have much luck getting a signal when shielded from the sky, however.. Even sitting in a restaurant near a window I've found it completely unable to get a signal but it locked on in <15s when outside. I always mount my Tilt on my 'grip' mount on my dashboard so it has a reasonable view of the sky.
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Yep, same here, TomTom has a lock and is showing my location in at most 60s when I turn it on while driving. If I'm sitting still, it's less than that.
The Tilt does not seem to have much luck getting a signal when shielded from the sky, however.. Even sitting in a restaurant near a window I've found it completely unable to get a signal but it locked on in <15s when outside. I always mount my Tilt on my 'grip' mount on my dashboard so it has a reasonable view of the sky.
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Do you have aGPS enabled? That will enable you to get a lock even inside of buildings, or anywhere that has little or no view of the sky.
I hope they do move to navigator 7 at some point as I like the idea of things like map share that are avaliable on the go 720 tomtom models.
Looks like there will be TomTom 7 for Procket PC.
There is a news item on MoDaCo website.
http://www.modaco.com/content/pocket-pc-professional-news/268462/tomtom-7-coming-to-pocket-pc-soon/
i get a quick lock on tomtom, but poor refresh updates from the GPS chip, so its laggy as.
TOMTOM also dont support the kaiser, TYTN II, or the OEM Branded ones, so getting support is a pain (even though my bloody phone came with tomtom on a CD!)
My GPS Reception jumps all over the place too. very unreliable.
To put the question out straight away: for those of you who have been using TomTom 7, is it worth the change over?
I've been reading with great interest (and gratitude) the TomTom 7 threads, most namely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679&highlight=TomTom
But as you use it, is it a good result?
A couple of "detail" questions on my TT6 pet peeves:
1) Does TT7 still "take over" the full screen, in my case forcing back to TT6 when I tap on the top heading of the screen while in another program?
2) Will TT7 route to "company names" in the Microsoft Mobile Contact list? (My work around, of course, is simply to copy the company name to the "personal name", but it's tedious.)
Anyway, what's the verdict?
Thanks in advance.
Capn
I prefer iGo8 over it by far. Tomtom has barely changed since v5.
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I prefer iGo8 over it by far. Tomtom has barely changed since v5.
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Be fair... He's not asking if iGO is better, i think he just wants to know if tomtom 7 is a decent upgrade over 6, to which I would answer a resounding yes.
I navigated a semi tricky ramp setup in northern NJ, (where the turnpike meets the parkway, which hooks up with 440, which splinters of into the beginning of 287... and not only did I not experience any lag, the the separate ramps are shown in yellow, quite clearly, and it was almost impossible for me to go the wrong way.
Igo over tomtom? I'd say yes. but tt7 over tt6... hell yes. Take the plunge. Graphically nothing new, we all know this. But it gets the job done and I've never had issues with HTC home...
i had TT6 on my TyTN II. and have recently upgraded to TT7 and i think its great. the map is more detailed, it has speed limits on known major roads, and if you go 2 much over the limit it beeps telling u 2 slow down. you can also manually set a maximum speed limit and if you go over it beeps. (that saved me a speeding fine on my last trip to the peninsular) you can have a quick menu on screen all the time with just options you want in it. like quick set to night mode, or mark GPS position or mute. you can also make some changes to the map yourself, like street names and whatever, but from i see you cant change the speed limit of a street.
i will admit its the only software i have had installed on my PPC but its so good i have no need to look anywhere else.
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To put the question out straight away: for those of you who have been using TomTom 7, is it worth the change over?
I've been reading with great interest (and gratitude) the TomTom 7 threads, most namely:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=401679&highlight=TomTom
But as you use it, is it a good result?
A couple of "detail" questions on my TT6 pet peeves:
1) Does TT7 still "take over" the full screen, in my case forcing back to TT6 when I tap on the top heading of the screen while in another program?
2) Will TT7 route to "company names" in the Microsoft Mobile Contact list? (My work around, of course, is simply to copy the company name to the "personal name", but it's tedious.)
Anyway, what's the verdict?
Thanks in advance.
Capn
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i am using TT7 and TT7 does use the entire screen but when u hit the red phone it is still running in the background.and u can always go back to it on the bottom right hand corner of your phone. even when the screen is off it will tell u when to make the next turn. so it is always running unles u manual exit the application
i think it is a great peice of work. picks up more sat. and it gives u many more options
For me upgrading to version 7 is a must, cause is the only way to use 7.20 maps. And there are much differences between v6 and v7 maps here in Spain
Haven't notice much differences in the soft, for me works fine both versions, 6 and 7.
Cheers.
Ive used miomap, igo, tt6 and tt7. I really liked miomap but got tired of disabling htc home. Once TT7 came out I tried it and never went back.
I love tt7, but i was using telenav. as said above it gets the job done.
TomTom Home 2.2
Guys,
Maybe a little bit off topic, but can you use TomTom Home (2.2)? With TomTom Home you can update your maps with mapshare.
The version of TT Home which you can download in first place, can not upgrade my maps.
I downloaded TT Home 2.2, but then my Kaiser has not been detected.
Someone any suggestions?
Temba
Thanks everyone. Most helpful.
A little follow-up:
1) Is the extracted TomTom 7 fully functional? That is, if it was "tuned" for the Diamond, do all the features work the way they are supposed to, perhaps like a 720 or 730?
2) Does the MapShare function as intended? (setting aside for the moment if it's useful feature yet). That is, any bugs due to extraction from the Diamond?
Again thanks,
Capn
how do i get IGO on my tilt?
im from NJ usa ..is it possible?
TT7 is the ****....not that super detailed but always shows the fastest route,speed camera and going over the speed limit notification beeps are very solid.
Washington d.c area is complete and down to a T..even new structures and ramps. Clear difference in options from TT6.
.. I mean I haven't tried IGO or another gps program other then google maps but I don't really consider that navigation...so I dunno the difference in other apps, but TT7 seems to get the job done. I don't really see anything else to expect more from it, I always get where I want..fast
A Resounding YES!
Tried iGo8 before TT7 came out and hated it. Looks great but probably the most unintuitive GPS software I've ever seen. TT6 over TT7? Yes, absolutely.
Only thing I hate is the muting of sound when you have a GPRS data connection.
I tried TT awhile ago, wasn't impressed. I ended up with Garmin XT, which I like alot (I have a car unit by them), but would consider iGo8 or the latest TT7 if one or the other is really better.
Can only compare TT7 to TT6, but I've gone back to TT6.
Yes, you need TT7 for the latest Teleatlas v7 maps and there are a few minor enhancements within TT7 over TT6, but I've gone back to TT6 because the route calculation on TT7 is a nightmare.
I've checked and its the software version rather than the map version, because TT7 does the same whether using V6 maps or V7 maps.
On a number of occasions, its taken me over narrow, single track back roads when there is a main road travelling parallel that I knew to be better and when I actually forced TT7 to calculate the better main-road route I knew - it was actually quicker!
Many people say that the last v6 maps from Navteq which Tomtom used until they bought Teleatlas are actually better than the later Teleatlas ones.
So I'm back using the "better calculating" TT6 software and the v6 Navteq maps and that will do me...
scroll wheel doesn't work anaymore with TT7
One thing very annoying for me with TT7 is that the scroll wheel (hardware button) doesn't work anymore on the kaiser for zoom/dezoom and for scrolling through adresses and city names ! This was working with TT6 but no more with TT7
I have Google and WLS installed on my tilt, and i do like them. However, what options do i have for a GPS software that provides voice directions?
Not wanting to spend a bunch of money here, but if my options are limited, i would still like to hear them.
Thanks!
I use Tom Tom. It gives rather good turn by turn directions.
Hi,
I have tried TomTom V6 and V7 and also I-Go8.
All 3 are good products and these are my own 'key points':
TT6=Legal,out of date maps and won't get better.
TT7=Legally grey for the app ,but you can buy legal maps-which is what TomTom have always charged for-modern maps (01.08 if V7.20) and is likely to be so for a while yet.
I-Go8=Legal (but you may have to import it as it still is like hens teeth here)
,modern maps (01.08),likely to be supported.
TomTom (both)-basic interface,runs fast on older PDA (WM2003+),good routing.Instruction format=in 100m turn lef,turn left (at exactly the correct time),instructions at roundabouts are concise.
I-Go-'prettier' interface and possibly a little more powerful,3d landscape can be of use but 3d buildings are in my opinion a gimmick,a little slow on less powerful PDA,sound routing,shows the next 2 manoevers,with 3rd party skins easy to modify options.Instuction format=in 100m take the 3rd left,take the 3rd left about 30m from turn (this is the last instruction),display lags by about 1 second so this is logical.Instructions as you approach roundabouts are in my opinion a little verbose
Choices-I keep swapping between the two as they are both strong products and I can't really decide which is 'better'
Do they work-Yes
Are they up to date-tt6,no-tt7 yes,and I-go yes
Cheapest-TomTom
Nobody can give you a definitive answer on the 'best' software,so pay your money and learn to live with the foibles these programs all have.
Clear as mud?
Ashley
do you get the tomtom software if you buy an actual tomtom? I assume you cjust buy the disc, but does it come with the actual gps unit? My dad bought one ways back, and wondering if he got the software with it.
I think the s/w is hard wired into the TomTom devices,but can be updated by official downloads
Ashley
okay, i don't have a cd, but i do have North America maps which is what i want. So, that leads me to my question, is there some generic installer that gets the tomtom shell on the tilt phone?
I tried a few on the wiki page, and when i truy to install the exe, i get a message on the phone saying Incorrect Rom. So, i assume i need a cooked ROM on my phone to install the ones on the wiki.
I checked tomtom website, and see nothing.
I think you are starting to skate very close to discussing illeagal/unapproved software,please be very careful.
Ashley