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If you remove your sim card and look closely, there is a tiny switch that would normally be covered by your SIM. What does it do??? My manual says nothing about it.
I'm not sure but i think anyone here has written that if the switch is in one position you can replace sim card when device is on and on the other position device powers off if you try to replace sim.
The second is the normal position.
But i'm not sure
Can anyone Verify?
I flipped the switch just to see... and BAM, now my Tilt has 3D graphics acceleration! (j/k)
In all seriousness, I did flip the switch, but the SIM door will not close with it in that position. If you look at the SIM flap, there is a little metal piece (looks like an upside down U), and the switch fits snugly between the metal lines when in the original position, allowing the door to close and lock.
its a switch to replace sim
when you open the sim cover that little microswitch turns off the phone thus stopping it from getting problems with sim issues.then when you pop in a new sim and lock the cover the phone turns on and boots up.
just like o2xdaexec said its used to shut off the phone when your removing the sim card
... and ...
... and that little switch is why almost all of the "how to flash" guides contain an error.
Many of the guides, including "HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW", contains a step calling you to "remove SIM card" in the middle of a series of events. These guides never point out that it will immediately cause your phone to turn off, which can result in many a skipped-heart-beat by someone in their first flash (which is why they are following the steps to begin with).
... Sigh.
so you dont actually need to open then
So my Tilt has now taken on the role of a secondary device. It's still very useful for tethering and Slingboxing, but that's about all I am using it for. Since I am using the one SIM to switch between the 2 devices, I have to wait for the Tilt to reset and slowly boot each time I put the SIM into it. Anyone know a way to force the Tilt not to reset and properly recognize the SIM? Just to be clear, I am not using more than one SIM on the Tilt, just one SIM that I am switching between 2 devices. I'm just trying to speed up the process when I want to use the Tilt.
Thanks for any feedback.
No, the small hardware switch under the sim cover shuts down the tilt/kaiser,
You may get around it by cutting in the simcover, the small "lock" has a small space were it fits right into the switch
But couldnt it damage the SIM if taken out while in use? Kinda like removing an sd card during read/write? Is it possible on any phone to remove the SIM without powering the unit down?
JKingDev said:
But couldnt it damage the SIM if taken out while in use? Kinda like removing an sd card during read/write? Is it possible on any phone to remove the SIM without powering the unit down?
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Sure could and that's why you shouldn't do it.
I don't believe SIM Cards are a "hot-swappable" technology.
JKingDev said:
But couldnt it damage the SIM if taken out while in use? Kinda like removing an sd card during read/write? Is it possible on any phone to remove the SIM without powering the unit down?
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You can do it at will with the iPhone 3G (as well as the orig iPhone). As far as I can tell, no damage to speak of. Of course, I don't keep any contacts on the SIM, so perhaps that is a factor. I may tinker with the door lock on the Tilt to see if I can get it to think it's locked at all times even if the door is open. Since it is designed to power off when the door opens though, it may crash or otherwise lock up with the insertion and removal of the SIM while still powered up.
I flashed a rom a while back which when i opened the sim cover it gave a 10 second countdown and then switched off....i dont remember which rom it was but surely this means there isnt a hard off switch connected to the sim cover...
rgbyhkr said:
You can do it at will with the iPhone 3G (as well as the orig iPhone). As far as I can tell, no damage to speak of. Of course, I don't keep any contacts on the SIM, so perhaps that is a factor. I may tinker with the door lock on the Tilt to see if I can get it to think it's locked at all times even if the door is open. Since it is designed to power off when the door opens though, it may crash or otherwise lock up with the insertion and removal of the SIM while still powered up.
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Flipping the little switch to the alternate position will allow the phone to run while the door is open, but you will not be able to close your Tilt since the SIM door will stick out just enough to prevent it.
Humz said:
I flashed a rom a while back which when i opened the sim cover it gave a 10 second countdown and then switched off....i dont remember which rom it was but surely this means there isnt a hard off switch connected to the sim cover...
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That's the message I get on mine - it's the default AT&T ROM. So, I agree that it is a hardware/software combination whereby the door latch triggers the software to prompt the message and then shutdown. Also, I noticed something else. Without the SIM in, I set the device to Flight Mode and unlocked the door. As you would expect, the device shuts off. However, when I restarted the device with the door still open, I didn't get the 10 seconds message and it didn't shut off (it was still in Flight Mode after the restart, so this must be the trigger). While still in Flight Mode, I could lock and unlock the door at will and the device remained on. If I locked the door without the SIM in and then turned off Flight Mode and then unlocked the door, the Tilt turned off.
It would appear then that there is something in the firmware that is monitoring the SIM door state, but there are obviously scenarios where that state doesn't matter. My guess is that the state is monitored during startup as well as during normal use. Flight Mode seems to override the effects of unlocking the door while it is on, but only if you booted it with teh door open and in Flight Mode. Once you are out of Flight Mode, the door status is then again monitored and I haven't found a way to turn that monitoring back off. But perhaps there is a hack to do just that...
A little more testing and things just got a bit more interesting. Here's what I did:
- I tried doing the Flight Mode then open the door to shut off and leave it open when I turned it back on. I then inserted the SIM, closed the door, and turned off Flight Mode. I got the SIM not present message on the dialpad screen. I tried toggling Flight Mode on and off again trying to force it to "see" the SIM. No dice even after several tries.
- I then tried the same thing with a modification. Flight Mode on and opened teh door to shut down the device. Left the door open, and this time inserted the SIM but didn't close the door, and powered up. So, with the device still in Flight Mode powered up and with the door open, I pulled the SIM. I closed the door and slid down the keyboard. After about 15 seconds with no pop-ups on the device, I opened the door, replaced the SIM and turned Flight Mode off. Voila! The device found the signal and I was able to make a test call. Of course, the device turned back off once I opened the door, even though I tried going into Flight Mode first.
This tells me a few things:
- The state of the door is monitored
- The state of the SIM being present is monitored
- Flight Mode has some override
- The status of a combination of the above during startup results in different outcomes for the same testing steps after the device is back on.
I think there may be a way to hack the device to do what I want. Ideally, it would ignore (or be fooled into perceiving a desired status) both the door state and the SIM presence. I figure with the right hack and the use of toggling Flight Mode, you could take the SIM in/out without having to power it down at all.
Anyone with more experience than I at tinkering want to point me in teh right direction?
rgbyhkr said:
You can do it at will with the iPhone 3G (as well as the orig iPhone). As far as I can tell, no damage to speak of. Of course, I don't keep any contacts on the SIM, so perhaps that is a factor. I may tinker with the door lock on the Tilt to see if I can get it to think it's locked at all times even if the door is open. Since it is designed to power off when the door opens though, it may crash or otherwise lock up with the insertion and removal of the SIM while still powered up.
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Even a Palm Treo 650 could hot swap SIM cards!
I'm going to ask about this in the Kaiser ROM subforum.
JimmyMcGee said:
Sure could and that's why you shouldn't do it.
I don't believe SIM Cards are a "hot-swappable" technology.
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I used to pull mine out of my treo all the time.
ChumleyEX said:
I used to pull mine out of my treo all the time.
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I used to unplug Floppy Drives hot all the time. Still doesn't make it good, or a "hot swappable" technology.
Now there is a chance I'm wrong. It happens once a year.
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I'm sure this will take care of your birdie
It's a BB gun.
BOOM! I Nuked this thread. Now it is no more!
And I shall Resurrect it.
Later all, I'm headed to Vegas.. Keep flaming the noobs.
Jesus Christ!
I started having those msg's all of a sudden, although the door is locked.
The phone will not start coz while booting the msg appears that the sim door is unlocked and shuts down after 10 seconds.
Doesn't matter if the sim card is in or not.
I unplugged sim tray holder slot and the phone works perfectly fine.
Should I try to replace SIM TRAY HOLDER SLOT with the new one or it will not solve the problem ?
Is there anyway to fix it ?
any help would be appreciated.
Thanks
Dmitry
You can do it.
3 times I had the same problem, and 2 times with Air compress clean over the interruptor, and give me the solution for this msg. and the other day the weither with many humidity and my kaiser not response and one more time the msg. and then I put the cel under light of my lamp halogen desk, and with the hot I think that the humidity disapper and the kaiser return to the life try and write your solution amigo.
Greettings from Puebla,Mexico and sorry for my english.
thanks,
However It is not moist or anything like that.
I am trying to figure out which part of the SIM slot is responsible for detection of the open/closed door, so that I can try to fix it...
Hedonist84 said:
I am trying to figure out which part of the SIM slot is responsible for detection of the open/closed door, so that I can try to fix it...
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Look where the lock toggle engages underneath and there's a microswitch. It is possible for the toggle to not engage correctly with the microswitch underneath (the pin neads to fit into the gap in the microswitch rather than to one side of the gap). Have a careful look and move the microswitch independantly of the lock toggle and you'll see what I mean.
Flying Kiwi said:
Look where the lock toggle engages underneath and there's a microswitch. It is possible for the toggle to not engage correctly with the microswitch underneath (the pin neads to fit into the gap in the microswitch rather than to one side of the gap). Have a careful look and move the microswitch independantly of the lock toggle and you'll see what I mean.
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Thank you so much for your help.
You are correct about the micro switch. It is so tiny that I couldn't see it.
What is more it looks like the part of the switch that is supposed to be outside so that the lock toggle moves it, is broken.
I had to take a needle to move the switch that is inside.
Unfortunately I purchased a new sim slot on ebay yesterday. Will see if I can cancel this transaction
(I did cancel the transaction, the Chinese seller was very polite and asked me only to reimburse him for E-bay transaction 1.2$)
Once again thanx for your help !
Regards
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Okay so my girlfriend wanted to switch from the icult and wanted to try out my old phone. She has an iphone 5 and while I was making an adapter for her sim card with the correct sim tray she was messing with the phone and decide to try and put her sim tray in. She didn't jam it in all the way so the sim contacts should *hopefully* still be fully intact but one of them seems to be simply stuck on the tray. Could anyone give me some info on where exactly the sim contacts are and the little pin lock things that hold the tray down. Also if anyone has a good idea for something to slide in behind it to release the pin that's locked on please share.
jukiewalsh said:
Okay so my girlfriend wanted to switch from the icult and wanted to try out my old phone. She has an iphone 5 and while I was making an adapter for her sim card with the correct sim tray she was messing with the phone and decide to try and put her sim tray in. She didn't jam it in all the way so the sim contacts should *hopefully* still be fully intact but one of them seems to be simply stuck on the tray. Could anyone give me some info on where exactly the sim contacts are and the little pin lock things that hold the tray down. Also if anyone has a good idea for something to slide in behind it to release the pin that's locked on please share.
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you could try cutting a screen protector to the right size and sliding it under the card. make it 3 or 4 pieces thick
Do you know which side of the tray locks on? Which side do I need to slide it behind, the side towards the screen or the side towards the back of the phone?
Hi folks,
I recently ordered what appeared to be original huawei p9 replacement screen together with metal frame and replaced broken screen. Phone now boots normally, I can also boot to fastboot and recovery, but unfortunately phone doesn't have ADB debugging and OEM unlock turned on.
When phone boots normally, I can get only to the lock screen of "Smart view" or "cover view", so I cant unlock phone or anything else. I tried also with mouse via OTG, no luck...
Anyone have some other idea that I can try? If i could enter settings to turn off cover screen all would be good
Cover is usually detected by magnet.
Could you try to play with some magnet or cover from another phone to get it unlocked for once.
Maybe, making an incoming call could help to unlock.
Once you get in (?), go to Settings, Smart Assistance and permanently switch off Smart Cover - it's by default on, most people don't have the cover and IMO it helps draining the battery
zgfg said:
Cover is usually detected by magnet.
Could you try to play with some magnet or cover from another phone to get it unlocked for once.
Maybe, making an incoming call could help to unlock.
Once you get in (?), go to Settings, Smart Assistance and permanently switch off Smart Cover - it's by default on, most people don't have the cover and IMO it helps draining the battery
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I tried the magnet, no luck. Also incoming call is impossible since I get no SIM pin input prompt at startup... Any other ideas?
Demsar said:
I tried the magnet, no luck. Also incoming call is impossible since I get no SIM pin input prompt at startup... Any other ideas?
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You can move SIM to another phone and disable PIN, then put it back to Huawei.
Not sure would it help, you may have hardware problem with the replacement parts or work
To clarify this issue - the problem was in charging board, so changing it solved the problem. Other solution (if everything else works) is to remove charging board, boot the phone and disable smart cover in settings & then inserting charging board back.