The first sign of a problem occurred when I hit the power button and the phone started to boot up. I was surprised as it had not been shut down. I also noticed the keyboard appeared stuck and would not slide open to any degree whatsoever. I inspected the phone for any obvious sign of damage and there was none. The phone only booted as far as the unlock screen and then promptly shut off. I plugged the phone in its charger and tried again.
This same thing happened several more times and I got a sinking feeling that my phone was seriously fu*%ked up. I let it charge for a bit while I looked at HTC's and XDA Websites for any threads of this being a previously reported issue. My searches failed to turn up anything relating to a stuck keyboard. So I placed a support call to HTC North America (866- 449-7358) and promptly connected with a support rep named Larry. He was working out of a call center in Toronto.
The rep was not aware of any reported issues that would prevent the keyboard from sliding open. As far has the boot up process was concerned, his suggestion was to perform a hard reset and see if that would help. Before trying that I wanted to better understand why the keyboard was stuck but he could offer no help. When he learned that I had purchased the phone from Mobile Planet he said that it "was probably imported from the UK and that I would have to get any additional support from there." I considered this as lamely passing the buck and ended that call.
I placed renewed focus on the locked slider mechanism to see if there was any visible reason why it was stuck closed. After finding nothing, I then began to pry carefully around the edges and see just how much physical separation I could achieve at any one spot without causing undue stress. During this process the keyboard suddenly shifted a bit and I was able to carefully slide it out. I immediately noticed the SIM card latch was unlatched and hanging open. I closed and locked it, then powered the phone up once more. To my surprise and immense relief, it booted right up and remained on till I could unlock it. Everything worked fine. Needless to say I'm now one happy camper.
Conclusion:
If the keyboard on your Kaiser fails to open for any reason and the device keeps shutting down, an open SIM latch may be the problem. Try to gently and I do mean gently, pry at different points to gain partial clearance for the keyboard mechanism to shift. It might be all you need to resolve the issue. I hope this helps someone in the future.
Thank you. Mine is stuck right now. Its driving me crazy.
Update. I just did what you stated and it worked.
Solution for Stuck Slide Out on HTC Tilt
1. GENTLY use stylus or pointy slim object to lift the top part. Lift from the area where the sim card is located
2. Lift GENTLY until you have seperation, then slide out keyboard.
way cool!
what i'm curious about is how the sim door can come loose all on its own especially when the keyboard is closed...it has such a bad-ass lock on it...i swear, i really have to fiddle with the lock to get it to open when i need to remove the SIM.
...or perhaps it happens when one forgets to lock the SIM door followed by unintentionally closing the keyboard...?
If you remove your sim card and look closely, there is a tiny switch that would normally be covered by your SIM. What does it do??? My manual says nothing about it.
I'm not sure but i think anyone here has written that if the switch is in one position you can replace sim card when device is on and on the other position device powers off if you try to replace sim.
The second is the normal position.
But i'm not sure
Can anyone Verify?
I flipped the switch just to see... and BAM, now my Tilt has 3D graphics acceleration! (j/k)
In all seriousness, I did flip the switch, but the SIM door will not close with it in that position. If you look at the SIM flap, there is a little metal piece (looks like an upside down U), and the switch fits snugly between the metal lines when in the original position, allowing the door to close and lock.
its a switch to replace sim
when you open the sim cover that little microswitch turns off the phone thus stopping it from getting problems with sim issues.then when you pop in a new sim and lock the cover the phone turns on and boots up.
just like o2xdaexec said its used to shut off the phone when your removing the sim card
... and ...
... and that little switch is why almost all of the "how to flash" guides contain an error.
Many of the guides, including "HardSPL v3.07, v3.28, v3.29 and v3.56 by JockyW", contains a step calling you to "remove SIM card" in the middle of a series of events. These guides never point out that it will immediately cause your phone to turn off, which can result in many a skipped-heart-beat by someone in their first flash (which is why they are following the steps to begin with).
... Sigh.
so you dont actually need to open then
Hi,
When I pull my stylus - nothing happens... doesn't turn on or unlock device.
or during a call opens "notes".
Everything is Checked - it should do it, but it won't...
Any Ideas ???
Thanks
Take out the stylus, then remove the rear panel from your diamond. Look to see if the tiny magnet strip has become dislodged. This happened to mine after I'd had it just two days... it made it difficult to insert the stylus, and it just felt all wrong, because the strip had stuck itself in an awkward position. It also wouldn't recognize when the stylus was withdrawn.
I very nearly returned my diamond under warranty, until I looked closely at the stylus aperture and noticed this issue. I fixed it with a tiny spot of super glue on the magnetic strip and deft use of some plastic tweezers... saved days of re-programming a replacement.
Mr. Orange owes me a beer I reckon ;-)
Thanks for the reply...
The magnetic strip is there... I feel the magnet working...
but the diamond doesn't recognize when its in or out...
Anyone ?? Help - is it hardware or software ????
also a problem with the magnet strip
I own my diamond now for three weeks and something went wrong with the magnetstrip..it looks like it is still inplace but the magnetic force is stronger on the outside of the phone then on the inside (where its supposed to be) I'm trying to move te strip in the right position. but is not working.(seems like te strip is in the correct position)
It just happened. Really annoying..The phone goes on when I remove the stylus. (and the stylus is holding , but I don't get "the magnetic snap anymore"
Itay Shekel said:
Hi,
When I pull my stylus - nothing happens... doesn't turn on or unlock device.
or during a call opens "notes".
Everything is Checked - it should do it, but it won't...
Any Ideas ???
Thanks
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shalom! go to:
settings/personal/phone/advanced (tab)/"when a call is connecting, open the Notes application when stylus is pulled out"
also in the diamond's manual
Hi, i think i have problem with my screen, it's not work anymore, so I decided to reflash device with official Rom. But it didn't work.
Moreover before windows system start for the first time ir requires to tap on screen to boot. So now I cannot use my TytnII at all.
Is it any options to boot it without tapping on screen?
Or just to flash with other ROM, but HARdspl is not installed so a bit afraid to brick my phone. please help
hurdleman said:
Hi, i think i have problem with my screen, it's not work anymore, so I decided to reflash device with official Rom. But it didn't work.
Moreover before windows system start for the first time ir requires to tap on screen to boot. So now I cannot use my TytnII at all.
Is it any options to boot it without tapping on screen?
Or just to flash with other ROM, but HARdspl is not installed so a bit afraid to brick my phone. please help
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install hardspl (same procedure as flashing) and then install rom of your choise if it dosn't work have you done any of the following
dropped it in water
gone in the washing machine
etc.... stuff like that
why don't you get a new digitizer??? it's $10 for kaiser?? i've been changing them like underwear...every half a year.
what is it, what's asking you to click on screen? if it's just a welcome screen, put welcome.not file in root.
papo said:
why don't you get a new digitizer??? it's $10 for kaiser?? i've been changing them like underwear...every half a year.
what is it, what's asking you to click on screen? if it's just a welcome screen, put welcome.not file in root.
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hehehe funny expression 'changing them like [email protected]
what do you only change your underwear 2 a year
hehe, i live in Lithuania, so price with shipping will be around 25$. I think this isn't very cheap. Finally got screen working, but after 30min of using again no respond to tapping, then again working fine, and after that again no. it's annoying. I think it's problem with digitizer? I haven't it dropped to water, it almost brand new
hurdleman said:
hehe, i live in Lithuania, so price with shipping will be around 25$. I think this isn't very cheap. Finally got screen working, but after 30min of using again no respond to tapping, then again working fine, and after that again no. it's annoying. I think it's problem with digitizer? I haven't it dropped to water, it almost brand new
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thats good you got it working
hope the problem doesn't happen again
if we assume the problem is harware, it would most likely by at one of two spots.
place, where the ribbon cable is soldered to lcd
or place where two piecies of digitiizer are connnected to each other.
might help if you check on the ribbon and glue a plastic tape all around the edge of digitizer, making it press little bit more on it
well, if that's hw probllem. but first you shoud try different rom. you can reflash without digitizer working. and check for pocket controller or similar if you want you can control pda from pc with it. there are two free and Pocket contr is trial.
if you just want to bypass the "tap here to use your device" message on the first boot up, search for "welcome.not".
create a blank file named "welcome.not" and place it in the root of your sd card and then power on the device for first boot up.
make sure it is a blank file. make sure it is named EXACTLY "welcome.not". if you are doing this with your windows pc, make sure you have turned off "hide file extensions of known file types". otherwise, the file might actually be named "welcome.not.txt" but might show as "welcome.not" on your pc.
search about it for more information.
hi, have tried differnt rom, but problem still persist. screen is not working, but sometimes it starts working very well. but most of the time it not respond. when backlight goes out and touch screen it starts to light but can't touch any options on. So what can be the problem, only digitezer or whole screen?
it was more probable it would be hw. but we need to eliminate all possibilities and reflash was easiest.
Still there is more things which could be the problem.
And there is no way to tell for sure what is it.
Did you say the pda is new? or digitizer?
And then you said when backlight goes off, digitizer will stop working, but still reacting on touch (to light the backlight) Is this right?
When will it stop / start working? Does it change if you press on body - case?
Does it change if you slide keyboard out or in?
There would be a short test each time pda/screen is powered, if digitizer fails in this test, it would be ignored till next test pass. Could this be your case?
digitizer could be broken on corner, or has bad contact inside
- You can test it, if you'll solder test wires on it and measure resistance, which should be around 500 ohms without touch and going down on each touch, can't go higher! test for both H & V
but the same reaction could be if ribbon cable connecting two parts of kaiser is broken (or connector on mobo side)
but if it's new it shouldn't.
and at last there could be problem on mobo. inside the controller chip or on it's connection, soldering. But not very probable.
It definitely looks like bad connection somewhere. You need to find out where, so you'll not buy digitizer if it's good or ribbon cable.
Put plastic tape around digitizer inside, as I wrote before, inspect ribbon cable and digitizer and it's connections. Try to locate event when it goes wrong.
If you'll not open it and check on these things, then maybe get a new part which will show bad, then I don't see how more we could help you.
You can use it without touch screen somehow or get a new phone.
Digitizer is US$8 with shipping to Lithuania. That's really cheap, even for us from central european countries.
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/HTC-P4450-Ka...m&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item5192adf317#shId
and ribbon cable have fair price too,
http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Flex-Cable-R...ewItem&pt=PDA_Accessories&hash=item3cadad06a3
papo very informative
All i want to add is that it's easier to replace the whole screen with a digitizer already on as the digitizer is very hard to remove since glued to the glass more than likely will get wrecked and not able to replace new, whereas full kit wont cost a lot more and will be less stress just 4 screws on the back plate of Tilt "where sim door is".
Well, it is not new, i've bought it from one girl, but it's like brand new, no scratching at all, very good condition.
also, yesterday i checked all the connection inside it, but the problem persisted.
I think I have understood what kind off problem it is...when remove sim card it stars to work perfectly. When insert sim, it work some time very well. Then again screen start not to respond, any ideas?
hurdleman said:
Well, it is not new, i've bought it from one girl, but it's like brand new, no scratching at all, very good condition.
also, yesterday i checked all the connection inside it, but the problem persisted.
I think I have understood what kind off problem it is...when remove sim card it stars to work perfectly. When insert sim, it work some time very well. Then again screen start not to respond, any ideas?
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mm, I know some pretty good spells, but you need a magic wand to make them work. If you don't have any you need to:
tape the screen as I wrote before (half millimeter tape),
if no help, hardwire analog multimeter on digitizer and test it properly (while pda off and open) as I wrote before
tape bended paper across connector on mobo.
OR just get a new digitizer straight away. it's $8 and pretty good chance that it's the issue. it's maybe 50% chance but what I mean is:
You have $200 phone (now on market) let's assign it 200 points
It's working on 20% with digitizer broken, now you have 40 points
digitizer 8 points to add. With 50% chance to fix = 16 points to add
result: by adding 16 points you gain 160 (200 - 40) that's 10x gain = good risk
WTF with my screen? post photos. on the first my screen, on the second lcd screens which are beiing sold on ebay.
I decided to buy new digitizer, but when looked at my screen, it realized have completely different layout where digitizer is connecting to screen. Am i right? Is the digitizers which are sold on ebay will suit my screen?
that's fine. they all work. They are not oem but works well. Maybe not so scratch resistive.
You may get the digitizer solo, but they will not include a special double side tape which goes around and is holding it together. You can make that tape, but it's pain as stylez said. A lot of cleaning the used old one, then cutting small strips of ds-tape. and you need to put a paper or something in between two layers of tape as you need a little space in between. And then soldering that ribbon. Better just get whole assembly.
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I see you tried that tape, before you buy it, try the last thing. The place where digitizer is soldered to lcd modul.
On that piece you sent photo of, you need to open back cover.
check the picture:
1. peel off antistatic tape from connector, from up -> down
2. take cover off
3. there will be attachment of digitizer behind the cover, like on your second picture.
Check for good connection
AND
check if soldered pins could not be touching the back cover you took off
( i had this problem once)
put electric tape accross it a give it a try - that will isolate it from back cover & make a little pressure if bad connection
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Okay so my girlfriend wanted to switch from the icult and wanted to try out my old phone. She has an iphone 5 and while I was making an adapter for her sim card with the correct sim tray she was messing with the phone and decide to try and put her sim tray in. She didn't jam it in all the way so the sim contacts should *hopefully* still be fully intact but one of them seems to be simply stuck on the tray. Could anyone give me some info on where exactly the sim contacts are and the little pin lock things that hold the tray down. Also if anyone has a good idea for something to slide in behind it to release the pin that's locked on please share.
jukiewalsh said:
Okay so my girlfriend wanted to switch from the icult and wanted to try out my old phone. She has an iphone 5 and while I was making an adapter for her sim card with the correct sim tray she was messing with the phone and decide to try and put her sim tray in. She didn't jam it in all the way so the sim contacts should *hopefully* still be fully intact but one of them seems to be simply stuck on the tray. Could anyone give me some info on where exactly the sim contacts are and the little pin lock things that hold the tray down. Also if anyone has a good idea for something to slide in behind it to release the pin that's locked on please share.
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you could try cutting a screen protector to the right size and sliding it under the card. make it 3 or 4 pieces thick
Do you know which side of the tray locks on? Which side do I need to slide it behind, the side towards the screen or the side towards the back of the phone?