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I'm not taking credit for this, as it was other people on this board that showed me the right direction. I'm just making a post with a working version as I have yet to see one yet.
I have an AT&T tilt. This is with the ROM that comes with it. not cooked.
Make sure that you have deleted any other version of TomTom from your Tilt. Make sure you have deleted any old maps and map directories "\Storage Card\My Documents\"
1) Copy the cab over to your card
2) Run the cab
3) Copy your maps over to "\Storage Card\My Documents\". Mine were saved on my computer and called USA_and_Canada_v.675.1409.zip , make sure you are paying Tomtom because stealing is wrong.
4) Run TomTom
5) Go to Change Preferences|Show GPS status|Configure
6) Make sure the selected GPS receiver is "Built-in GPS receiver"
that's it. It should work from then on.
http://www.megaupload.com/?d=13EJMRYH
The cab
it gives me a rom version error. im using the latest htc rom from this site
caztronics said:
it gives me a rom version error. im using the latest htc rom from this site
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If you are using a non tilt rom, i'd try the cab install that comes with the htc. this one is for the tilt ROM
what version of tomtom is this?
The version number is 6
Can you download the maps?
I don't mind paying for the activation code, I just want to able to download and pay whatever it costs to avtivate the service from TomTom.
Buy Maps online?
Yes! Download and install Tomtom Home to your PC, then click on the link "buy the latest maps" It will show you all the maps available. Note: the price is in Euro and a single, cheapest map is 39.95 Euro. They have USA regional maps (New England_Mid Atlantics, Plains, etc) each cost 59.95 Euro. Hence, it is expensive to buy map online.
Kireol,
Thank you very much! I've been trying to move my maps out of the root of my 4G card for weeks!
I just wanted to say thanks for helping me finally get tomtom on to my tilt. I had been trying for three days and couldnt get it to work. Finally got it to work. Dont know what I was doing wrong but it work. Just followed the instructions and it went like a charm. Maybe I was tired. Thanks a bunch
If you want to add the standard TomTom Voices to your Kaiser after installing this all you need to do is Download & install TomTomHOME from TomTom's website. It will allow you to download and install all of the standard voices.
yup Kyphur is right. also, if you download some free ones, you can just copy them to your \Storage Card\Voices directory.
Here's a site with a bunch of free TomTom voices (I'm using John Kleese):
http://gps-data-team.com/pda-gps-navigation/links/index.php
Follow the free voices sticky.
Also:
The cab from page 1 on this thread works just perfectly on my Tilt flashed with the TyTN II ROM. As part of the installation, you can also download a free city map to play with. It automatically detects the Kaiser builtin GPS.
Very cool software.
I have the AT&T Tilt (Kaiser). When I select the GPS, it does not show the built in GPS. How do I get it to show the built in GPS. I have the TT MKii external one, but if I could use the built in one, it would be even better. Thanks!
I just set it up before seeing this thread and mine didnt say "internal GPS" but only one of the options was not for a bluetooth gps, so I choose that, and it asked me what com port to use, I said Com 4, and it worked fine. I am using AT&T Rom.
But, I would really like to clean up my Memory Card also, so now I gotta see if I can get all the tomtom files into a folder instead of the root of the memory card.
That worked! Thanks! Now I don't have to carry my external TT GPS around...
U R the man!!!!!!
kireol said:
I'm not taking credit for this, as it was other people on this board that showed me the right direction. I'm just making a post with a working version as I have yet to see one yet.
I have an AT&T tilt. This is with the ROM that comes with it. not cooked.
Make sure that you have deleted any other version of TomTom from your Tilt. Make sure you have deleted any old maps and map directories "\Storage Card\My Documents\"
1) Copy the cab over to your card
2) Run the cab
3) Copy your maps over to "\Storage Card\My Documents\". Mine were saved on my computer and called USA_and_Canada_v.675.1409.zip , make sure you are paying Tomtom because stealing is wrong.
4) Run TomTom
5) Go to Change Preferences|Show GPS status|Configure
6) Make sure the selected GPS receiver is "Built-in GPS receiver"
that's it. It should work from then on.
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kireol,
You are the man!!! I've been fooling with this #@%# thing off and on all day. I've been through countless threads and numerus cab files with all negative results.
After reading your post I tried that cab and it worked fantastic. I picked up 4 satellites sitting in the house and 7 when I went outdoors. I had already tried 6.01 with the US maps to no avail. I just installed your cab without uninstalling and everything worked great.
Thank you so much!!!!! Just wish I'd found your post this morning.
Wow! Very nice!
Thanks Man...
I'm going to get me some maps now...
no problem guys
sometimes I think this post should be stickied heh. even i forget about it
Seems like after updating the new patch they released that upgrades to 1.62 when I go to google maps and use "GPS" it doesnt work half the time.. and the other half the time it puts me off by a couple streets...
used to work just fine pre upgrade =/
bump... anyone?
maybe i have to change GPS settings on the phone? what should the ports or w/e be set to? like COMM1 or w/e?
What app are you using to map/view the coordinates?
I am interested in your problem, as I use the GPS quite often with the GPS Photo capability, but haven't updated the ROM yet. (I'm in a different country at the moment and don't want to break something that isn't broken with the upgrade without a quick solution to fix.)
I wonder if it's just a mapping issue and if you've tried different programs, (Google/MS Live Search), or if you're using TomTom.
Let me check my settings...
Programs Tab: Com4
Hardware Tab: None
Access Tab: Manage GPS checked
These settings work for me with MS Live and Google Maps. I hope this helps you. Drop some feedback on your success, or lack of, if you don't mind.
i use google maps... and used them with previous firmware as well. havent tried any other services.
just checked.. i have settings set to same as you.
can you check if you got "assisted GPS" turned on in Keiser Tweak?
Good question. I only recently (two days ago) updated to the new Kaiser Tweak and previously used the old one. The aGPS option wasn't in the old one and I haven't used the GPS since the Kaiser Tweak upgrade.
Ok, just fired up MS Live Search and with aGPS enabled, it pulled up the map location fine.
I also have VisualGPSce installed and that works fine with the GPS. The settings on that are for Port: COM4 at 9600 baud.
Google Maps Mobile also works. It's set to the Windows default for the GPS option.
I don't know if aGPS was turned on by default before (Old Kaiser Tweak). I'll give it a try though and see if I get better results. I'm currently in Japan and aGPS system is alive and well here.
Download and try out the VisualGPSce program. http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/
It will kick back data right away on what satellites it can view. Use the same settings as I do above. At least you won't have to wait for it to get a fix, to see if the GPS is working.
Direct link to the cab file: http://www.visualgps.net/VisualGPSce/VisualGPSceInstall.CAB
Hello! I purchased a 6 GB card for my AT&T Tilt as I wanted to keep both CNNANT 2K8 and CNEurNT v9 readily at hand (as well as music, etc.) I travel to Europe regularly and didn't want to have to juggle data on a 2 GB card. Anyway, I installed Mobile XT on the card successfully and I'm using the latest versions of MapInstall and MapSource on my laptop running Vista. I have the map files unlocked and can display them on my laptop. I have keys generated for both map sets and pasted into both the .UNL files in the Garmin folder on the card. It appears as one continuous 75-character key in each file. However...when I attempt to install both map sets to the card, although the install appears to go normally, I can display only one or the other map set. I can see through Windows Explorer that the available space on the card is down to what it would be with both map sets installed. I go to 'Manage My Data' in XT and all I can see is one of the map sets -- Europe or North America. I have tried every trick I can think of to get both sets to install properly but there's no difference. I do notice that when both have been installed, Mobile XT takes an inordinately long time to initialize on my Tilt. Any ideas? Thanks for your help!
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...I have keys generated for both...
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Warez discussion is not allowed on this board.
Anyway, contact Garmin if you want http://www.garmin.com/garmin/cms/site/us/support/supportcontact
Wasn't discussing "warez," there...
Thanks for the reply. All I'm attempting to do is combine both map sets on one card. If Garmin tech support was worth contacting, I would have done it. I'm not pirating and not condoning those who do. The "keys" in question are only to facilitate letting me combine what's already mine in a format useful to me. These issues have been sufficiently beaten to death on other threads so let's not belabor the issue.
Sorry for the rant...
changing maps with mortscript
I was asking myself too if it's possible to use two different maps the same time.
But i don't think it's possible with the pda version from Garmin. Correct me if I'm wrong....
My workaround is a little mortscript i made to choose which map i want to use....
If you're interested i can send it to you, you only have to change the values etc...
It's quite possible to have more than 1 map in a card, but it's required some key generate to make it work because of the Garmin's brilliant ideal (locked map to its specified tiny 1GB-2GB card.)
if you want to have multiple maps for different areas on one card, you should use "gmaptool" to combine them and load the resulting .img file on your device.
You have to have the maps unlocked BEFORE combining them, everything als wont work.
Sadly you can`t use mapsource with the combined file without buying the programm "img2mapsource" wich could do the job.
I dont really need mapsource though.
You can even combine to maps of the smae area, for example to get autorouting in a topo map.
To do so, you have to unlock both maps, set the map prioority with gmaptool to show the topo map over the auto.routing map and combine them afterwards.
The program is used in the command line. Read the readme for further instructions.
There is another way... still manual though.
I use MapSource to transfer only the maps I need to my Tilt. Unfortunately, as you all probably know by now, Garmin Mobile XT does not allow more than one map on the card simultaneously. If you try to do it from MapSource, the new map overwrites the old map.
So what I do is create mapsets in MapSource and save them for quick recall.
I created a mapset for all of North America using City Navigator 8 maps. Then I transferred that to my Tilt. Next I went onto my Tilt's SD card and renamed the mapset with a "CN-" prefix.
Now, I went back into MapSource and created a mapset for the NW states of the US using my Topographic 2008 maps. Then I transferred that to my Tilt. Next, I went onto my Tilt's SD card and renamed the mapset with a "Topo-" prefix.
Depending upon which mapset I want to use (on road or off road), I just remove the prefix and launch Garmin Mobile XT.
It's a manual process to switch maps, but it's minimal work and they're always on the card where ever I go. I'm sure you could do the same with EU maps or other maps.
i think that's exactly what i am doing with my mortscript
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Hello! I purchased a 6 GB card for my AT&T Tilt as I wanted to keep both CNNANT 2K8 and CNEurNT v9 readily at hand (as well as music, etc.) I travel to Europe regularly and didn't want to have to juggle data on a 2 GB card. Anyway, I installed Mobile XT on the card successfully and I'm using the latest versions of MapInstall and MapSource on my laptop running Vista. I have the map files unlocked and can display them on my laptop. I have keys generated for both map sets and pasted into both the .UNL files in the Garmin folder on the card. It appears as one continuous 75-character key in each file. However...when I attempt to install both map sets to the card, although the install appears to go normally, I can display only one or the other map set. I can see through Windows Explorer that the available space on the card is down to what it would be with both map sets installed. I go to 'Manage My Data' in XT and all I can see is one of the map sets -- Europe or North America. I have tried every trick I can think of to get both sets to install properly but there's no difference. I do notice that when both have been installed, Mobile XT takes an inordinately long time to initialize on my Tilt. Any ideas? Thanks for your help!
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I'm not sure if you're still looking for an answer on this or if you already figured out how to do this yet but I figured its worth a shot. I'm currently running Mobile XT on my Moto Q9h (WM6 device). The problem I was having was that if I loaded the detail maps for all of North America on to my 8gb sd card and then tried launching XT it would just hang on the splash screen at the beginning. After a bunch of reading and research I found a website that talked about loading different mapsets to XT (unfortunately I cant remember the website otherwise I'd give them the credit...). So what I ended up doing was breaking down my NA maps into 1 mapset for Canada and 1 for the US then I loaded both to my sd card and it worked like a charm. Here's what I did:
Install the first mapset to your device using Mapsource, so in your case I would imagine it would be the NA set but it can be either or. Once this is installed on your card, using active sync go to the Garmin folder on the storage card and rename the .img file from GMAPSUPP.img to GMAPSUP2.img. ** Notice that the name is still only 8 characters long **
Now that you've renamed that file, then go ahead and load the other mapset to ur device. Assuming that your maps are unlocked and good to go, you should see 2 img files on ur Garmin folder GMAPSUPP and GMAPSUP2. This should allow you to display both maps at the same time. You can verify the maps are installed by going to Tools--> Manage my data ---> Maps, it should display both sets plus ur base map.
Hope this helps.
This will work only if you copy two different maps, witch were unlocked with one and same map unlock code! If you have two different maps with two unlock codes - you should rename also GMAPSUP2.UNL file to have two working maps.
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I'm not sure if you're still looking for an answer on this or if you already figured out how to do this yet but I figured its worth a shot. I'm currently running Mobile XT on my Moto Q9h (WM6 device). The problem I was having was that if I loaded the detail maps for all of North America on to my 8gb sd card and then tried launching XT it would just hang on the splash screen at the beginning. After a bunch of reading and research I found a website that talked about loading different mapsets to XT (unfortunately I cant remember the website otherwise I'd give them the credit...). So what I ended up doing was breaking down my NA maps into 1 mapset for Canada and 1 for the US then I loaded both to my sd card and it worked like a charm. Here's what I did:
Install the first mapset to your device using Mapsource, so in your case I would imagine it would be the NA set but it can be either or. Once this is installed on your card, using active sync go to the Garmin folder on the storage card and rename the .img file from GMAPSUPP.img to GMAPSUP2.img. ** Notice that the name is still only 8 characters long **
Now that you've renamed that file, then go ahead and load the other mapset to ur device. Assuming that your maps are unlocked and good to go, you should see 2 img files on ur Garmin folder GMAPSUPP and GMAPSUP2. This should allow you to display both maps at the same time. You can verify the maps are installed by going to Tools--> Manage my data ---> Maps, it should display both sets plus ur base map.
Hope this helps.
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I tried this with North America and Europe maps (saved to 8Gb card) and it seems to work...I did verify that the maps are installed by going to Tools--> Manage my data ---> Maps, and it displays both sets plus the world-wide base map.
My question is how do I get it to display the second map...
I'm in the US, and I can zoom out and see the North America overall map, but I can't do see the Europe maps at all. I've selected both, and then tried just selecting Europe in the Mapsource menu, but I haven't been able to get the Europe map to display.
Any advice on what I'm missing?
TIA,
Chris
EDIT:: After a restart I was able to get all the maps to display...this is a great trick!!
Thank you.
Glad you got it to work, I havent loaded anything other than the NA maps but now I know that I can load other maps if need be.
not trying to dig up old threads but i'm using tomtom since the start and now want to try garmin
do i purchase mobile xt or city navigator north.america if i want to use it in canada?
and whats the difference between mobile xt vs c.navigator
Mobile xt is the "engine" to run the map. You have to pick North America map. Read more.
so basically city navigator is just the map...and mobile xt is the gps program that will find routes and current location n such. am i correct?
Correct!
bapssystupr3m3 said:
so basically city navigator is just the map...and mobile xt is the gps program that will find routes and current location n such. am i correct?
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You are correct!
Dean
ATT Tilt No Camera
L26_3.53 ROM
No need for Mapsource
sickchilly said:
There is another way... still manual though.
I use MapSource to transfer only the maps I need to my Tilt. Unfortunately, as you all probably know by now, Garmin Mobile XT does not allow more than one map on the card simultaneously. If you try to do it from MapSource, the new map overwrites the old map.
So what I do is create mapsets in MapSource and save them for quick recall.
I created a mapset for all of North America using City Navigator 8 maps. Then I transferred that to my Tilt. Next I went onto my Tilt's SD card and renamed the mapset with a "CN-" prefix.
Now, I went back into MapSource and created a mapset for the NW states of the US using my Topographic 2008 maps. Then I transferred that to my Tilt. Next, I went onto my Tilt's SD card and renamed the mapset with a "Topo-" prefix.
Depending upon which mapset I want to use (on road or off road), I just remove the prefix and launch Garmin Mobile XT.
It's a manual process to switch maps, but it's minimal work and they're always on the card where ever I go. I'm sure you could do the same with EU maps or other maps.
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Actually, you do not need mapsource for this.All what you need is rename GMAPSUPP.img and GMAPSUPP.UNL to GMAPSUP2.img and GMAPSUP2.unl with active sync and you are good to go.
i've been successfully install 2 different map..and registered in mapset..but it views only the basemap...how can i show the other maps?
I already do what you said..but what comes on the display is only the base map...(GMAPBMAP.IMG)..and i can not see the others i've already loaded on my garmin xt
In your SD card you would have gmapbmap.img as your global base map. For GMXT you can also have gmapsupp.img and gmapprom.img with the corresponding gmapsupp.unl and gmapprom.unl files as necessary. This works for me. I tried gmapsup1.img gmapsup2.img that other boards said would work but my GMXT doesn't load this filename. However, mine can have the global base map plus 2 other maps simultaneously.
Can you do me a favor and post a screen shot of your UI and a Map?
I want to see which UI and Maps I like better.
Also if you want to add what you feel makes yours better than others please post that too.
Don't think I'm lazy, I've seen the ones on the product sites but you and I know it always looks different in real life.
I have tomtom6 and garmin installed, i switch between the two, both have their pros and cons but together they fill in each others gaps..
head over to garmins site https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=11413# and you can see screen shots of garmin mobile xt...
too lazy to actually take screen shots of mine then upload them..
I'm an iGuidance fan.
1 - The prog comes with PPC, PC and UMPC versions at no additional charge.
2 - Whole US, Canada in 1.2gig, no map loader juggling needed
3 - It has a "hibrid" Text-to-speech engine that talks directions with full street names.
4 - You can run it from your own memory card and not have to insert a specific "garmin" memory card. (This alone is a deal breaker for me, Garmin can pound sand until they stop locking their software to memory cards and external GPS receivers).
5 - I'm too lazy to post pics, but the iGuidance is a very mature product. It has 2D, 3D views with programmable hardkeys, I've used it since v1 beta and it's the best overall value in my eyes. I own TomTom, Mapopolis, Copilot, PMN, Destinator and prefer iG4.
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I have tomtom6 and garmin installed, i switch between the two, both have their pros and cons but together they fill in each others gaps..
head over to garmins site https://buy.garmin.com/shop/shop.do?pID=11413# and you can see screen shots of garmin mobile xt...
too lazy to actually take screen shots of mine then upload them..
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So, you're saying that Garmin on the PPC is pretty close to or exactly what you see on the screenshots. That's great.
But I gotta tell ya, I'm glad the guy below says you have to run it from THEIR card because I have an 8gb and I can't bare to be without it. So Garmin XT is totally out.
RemE said:
I'm an iGuidance fan.
1 - The prog comes with PPC, PC and UMPC versions at no additional charge.
2 - Whole US, Canada in 1.2gig, no map loader juggling needed
3 - It has a "hibrid" Text-to-speech engine that talks directions with full street names.
4 - You can run it from your own memory card and not have to insert a specific "garmin" memory card. (This alone is a deal breaker for me, Garmin can pound sand until they stop locking their software to memory cards and external GPS receivers).
5 - I'm too lazy to post pics, but the iGuidance is a very mature product. It has 2D, 3D views with programmable hardkeys, I've used it since v1 beta and it's the best overall value in my eyes. I own TomTom, Mapopolis, Copilot, PMN, Destinator and prefer iG4.
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iGuidance is it then! Thanks for the tip about Garmin. Didn't know you needed their GPS receiver and to use their card. Pound sand on that ****....DEAD ON.
I loaded Tomtom and it was out immediately, their GUI was so raggedy.
Now I just gotta research vendors.
One note on iGuidance and WM6.1 roms, you need this dll workaround;
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=368373
Otherwise you need GPsgate software as there is something going on the the internal GPS port. iG4 works fine with WM6.0 roms. Also you need to close any active data connection before launching iG4 or it won't start up. You can open a data connection after iG4 is running. These are minor to me and will probably be fixed in the next release as 6.1 goes mainstream.
you can see some of the screen shots from their website:
http://inavcorp.com/product/gallery/iguidance_gallery.php
looks like they are showing a UMPC screen, but it looks the same (except for the dimensions) on the Tilt.
Here's the PPC Screen shots;
http://inavcorp.com/product/gallery/iguidance_gallery.php?cd=3. PPC
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So, you're saying that Garmin on the PPC is pretty close to or exactly what you see on the screenshots. That's great.
But I gotta tell ya, I'm glad the guy below says you have to run it from THEIR card because I have an 8gb and I can't bare to be without it. So Garmin XT is totally out.
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that is not 100% correct... they WANT you to run it from their card, yes. There are some very simple hacks to copy it to whatever card you want... I have it running on 8GB right now. I like it.
Sadly, nothing I have done will get GarminXT running on my Tilt on my own memory card.
It launches, but it refuses to find the maps. I have gone through several steps to try to resolve this, including the "fixes" mentioned.
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Sadly, nothing I have done will get GarminXT running on my Tilt on my own memory card.
It launches, but it refuses to find the maps. I have gone through several steps to try to resolve this, including the "fixes" mentioned.
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Works fine for me. I have found there are several different how-to's... I have cleaned up the one I found to work.
If you have your unlock codes for your maps, which you do I'm sure, then this will get your own SD card working just fine.
HOW-TO...
1. Connect the phone via Active Sync and browse to the storage card.
2. Copy the Garmin folder onto the storage card.
BUT, don't move the two .unl files or the map file to the storage card.
3. Run Mapsource on the PC and go to tools> get unit id. Copy the Device ID to the clipboard.
or Run IMEI Converter, put in Phone IMEI and convert to 'Garmin Unit ID'.
4. Using Garmin Unlock Generator tool (Keygen v1.3.exe) paste in 'Unit ID'
5. Select map product
6. Click both generate buttons.
7. Copy 'GM XT Device unlock code' from keygen into notepad, save as 'SW.unl'
8. Copy 'SW.unl' to 'Storage Card\Garmin' on the phone.
9. Copy the 'map unlock code' from the keygen.
10. In Mapsource go to utilites>unlock maps. Complete the wizard using the map unlock code.
11. In Mapsource choose the maps that you want to transfer and select transfer>to device.
Using this method, there appears to be no need for the GMAPSUPP.UNL file. Also, I did not need to run QueSetupSP.cab. I also did not seem to need reboot the phone.
Using the steps you outlined resulted in Garmin hanging during launch.
I am hard resetting my phone right now and starting fresh.
Question: Which phone are you using, and are you using a Garmin bluetooth GPS receiver, or the integrated GPS in the phone?
I was a long time user of iGuidance. Garmin XT is much better...
I would go into all of the reasons but I cant be arsed.
I can also tell you that you CAN get it to work on your own SD card (cause the one it comes on is WAY too small for anything else)
I still use iGuidance on my carpc because it is pretty good and no otehr company has a touch screen friendly interface (at the moment)
Later, Lew
During the hunt for a fix for the hopeless GPS in the new 6.1 Rom, I stupidly uninstalled QuickGPS, and now - since I've found no other fix and it's patently something that HTC need to sort out - I'd like to reinstall it, in the dim hope it will be useful again some day.
Although there are various QuickGPS cab files floating around, none of the ones I've found are the peculiar 6.1 version (marked "Version 1.0" but copyright 2008, and with a higher build number starting 220.821). The only ones I've managed to download from anywhere are the original versions from 6.0 Roms, which - while they don't work any worse than the newer one - aren't any better either, and may well prove to have some other problem under 6.1. They must have changed it for a reason right?
Now it turns out, from reading up elsewhere, that my QuickGPS is still there on the device, sort of - if I set File Explorer to "show all files" and browse the \Windows folder, QuickGPS.exe is there, and it's the right version - I can even run it and download data. But it's no longer an installed program, so doesn't run automatically, and (since I deleted it's registry entries before) it's not setup properly there either.
Without a CAB to re-install it properly, is there any way I can persuade my phone to accept it back as an installed application, short of a hard reset? Or, does anyone perchance have it as a CAB?
I do not know why people are using the newest QuickGPS. THe only difference the program has is cosmetic. THe only purpose of QuickGPS is to have your phone read the GPS signal quick if you are using AGPS. Hence why it needs to connect to the internet to work.
True GPS signal is one from the GPS receiver built into the phone. First are you using AGPS??? Secondly if not, I do not see the reason for having it on your phone unless your using AGPS.
Ok, firstly, there is no "cosmetic" difference between the different builds of QuickGPS, so I'm kind of doubting your authority there straight from the off. The lack of any obvious difference is exactly what makes me think there probably is a more significant change under the hood. Secondly I was using the latest QuickGPS because that's what came with the latest 6.1 ROM update (which I'm also using). It wasn't some crazy whim of mine; HTC put it there, presumably for a reason.
You're confusing QuickGPS with A-GPS; in the context of the Tytn II they're two different things. QuickGPS is an app which downloads ephemeris data when online (during Activesync sessions etc) for use later offline. In theory, the GPS should be able to use this data later to speed up fixes, since it already has the empheris data and doesn't need to download this from the satellite. At the point at which you're out and about using the GPS, no internet connection is needed, because QuickGPS has already stored the data locally. This worked well (for me at least) on the old 6.0 ROM, but is sadly broken in the 6.1 update (and no, reverting to the original QuickGPS doesn't fix it - the problem is most likely in the radio).
A-GPS is different, it's using live data from the network to help triangulate position and speed up the fix - meaning a live connection is needed whenever you use GPS. It's only active if you have it switched on in the registry, and AFAIK only certain networks support it - on HTC branded devices it's always switched off by default.
Is there really no way to reinstall an app, when all the files are apparently just sitting there?
in the first place.....how did you install the app? did you lose the cab file that you used to install it?
secondly.......how did you uninstall it, but not manage to remove the file
The only answer i know will work for sure is a hard reset. (Not the answer you were after I'm sure).
After messing with various quickgps cabs trying to fix this problem i managed to stop my gps switching on at all. (Didn't go near the Windows Intermediate Driver settings).
The only positive is it gave me the opportunity to try a new 6.1 rom (Dutty's Diamond) and i'm really happy with the rom but sadly we still have the quickgps issue.
For a test i compared to a friends Artemis and after a Quickgps update his tomtom had all the sats in view within a few seconds. My posh Vario 3 didn't have anything.
pjam
XtreMe_G said:
in the first place.....how did you install the app? did you lose the cab file that you used to install it?
secondly.......how did you uninstall it, but not manage to remove the file
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QuickGPS gets installed automatically after a hard reset - it's in ROM as one of HTC's customisations. The surprising thing is that I was able to uninstall it, through the remove programs screen.
The files are still there because, apparently, they never left - they just got hidden. "Show all files" in explorer reveals them though. What isn't there is an installation cab - just the app files themselves, doing nothing.
That said, since I ran one of those files it now *is* doing something, happilly - after I messed with the options it re-established it's registry settings and is now running again as a service in the background, surviving soft resets. I manually recreated the shortcut in "programs" and basically all is well again, although since the option to uninstall hasn't returned it presumably still considers itself uninstalled somehow...
About the cosmetic difference I was referring to the QuickGPS in the newest DIamond Roms that are being ported over. I appologize for not reading your first post more clearly. Sorry about that