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Hi all,
Has anyone had/seen this problem? Whenever I connect my TYTN II (Vodafone v1615) to my laptop (Sony VGN-BX197XP) runnig XP sp2 the laptop's WIFI connection drops. It then keeps dropping out and coming back even AFTER I've disconnected the device - I have to reboot to get it sensible again.
As you can imagine, this is a little inconvenient!
Can anyone help?
Cat
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Hi all,
Has anyone had/seen this problem? Whenever I connect my TYTN II (Vodafone v1615) to my laptop (Sony VGN-BX197XP) runnig XP sp2 the laptop's WIFI connection drops. It then keeps dropping out and coming back even AFTER I've disconnected the device - I have to reboot to get it sensible again.
As you can imagine, this is a little inconvenient!
Can anyone help?
Cat
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Sounds like the same symptoms that some people were getting with Activesync 4.5 on some machines a year ago - I thought it had been solved by now - never bit me, but my wife had terrible problems with a Vario 1 and her Sony Vaio. Have a look under "Settings->Connections->USB" - is there a check box somewhere around there to turn off "advanced" functionality? If so, do it and see if that fixes it. Microsoft added the option of a sort of IP tunnel through Activesync which really seemed to screw some WiFi chip sets,,,
Martin
Unfortunately I can't see any similar function but your pointer towards active sync seems to be right. When I uninstalled Active Sync and plugged the device in, it was fine. I installed it and as soon as it synced, the wireless dropped out. Most infuriating!
It's not any odd software I've installed either as, due to another issue, I had to hard-reset it and watch it reset itself to defaults and I was only connecting it so that I could drop the backup software on so that I could restore my backup... The device was effectively quite virginal at the time.
I recall this being an issue with the wireless card drivers rather than AS. Are you up to date on those?
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Unfortunately I can't see any similar function but your pointer towards active sync seems to be right. When I uninstalled Active Sync and plugged the device in, it was fine. I installed it and as soon as it synced, the wireless dropped out. Most infuriating!
It's not any odd software I've installed either as, due to another issue, I had to hard-reset it and watch it reset itself to defaults and I was only connecting it so that I could drop the backup software on so that I could restore my backup... The device was effectively quite virginal at the time.
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It's nothing that you did - it was a serious compatibility problem between ActiveSync 4.5 and some PC WiFi chip sets - including those used in many Vaios. I checked on my Vario III after my original posting and the setting is still there under "Settings->Connections->USB to PC" and its called "Enable advanced network functionality". If you turn that off, I think it may solve your problem. I'm not sure exactly what functionality you will loose, but basic synchronisation will still work...
Martin
Hi, i have recently installed ms active sync 4.5. However my tytn ii will not establish a connection with my pc. It charges just fine but does not connect. I have searched all over but did not find a solution to my problem. i was wondering if it mightbe the cable i got with my device when i purchased it. it is a usb to "mini usb" like the motorolas and nokia 6300 use. Could this be my problem?
I doubt it's because of the cable (though could be). Try unchecking start>settings>connections>usb to pc.
I have the same problem, and have tried connecting with and without advanced network functionality.
activesync does not respond at all, even when trying to connect from activesync on my pc.
I have the same problem, charging o.k., but USB connecting not work
Before I had same problem. The reason was I have installed some 3rd party program what somehow blocked the sync.
I have un-installed this program but it couldn't help because the registry setting was modified by this software. So finally I ended up with a hard reset and reinstall everything. After that the sync just work fine again.
Sigh, i thought it might come to that.
hard reset 2x, no effect
flah rom from SD card, Duty V1 Daimond....no effect
flah rom from SD card, L26 V6 Daimond.... I have the same problem, charging ok, USB data connecting not work...
Well, hard reset complete to no effect. So frustrating!!!! I have been troubleshooting for ages and have nothing to show for it. Surely someone on this forum has solved this problen before.
Hi
I had the same problem following a rebuild of my laptop.
Problem traced to my firewall which had blocked the connection.
Once rule changed to allow no further problems.
Hi colinm, what did you do exactly? It may help me out of this situation.
Doesn't anyone know anything about this?
Yeah i had it get the latest update for active sync from windows its a latest driver pack goto teh windows home and look on there it sorted my one out
what version is it? i have 4.5 right now.
If you could provide a direct link that would be great.
I was trying in 2 different PC ( Vista, Win XP), but the same problem, cable is ok....
I would really like to know what the more experienced members think about this but no-one really seems to want to reply. also i would like to know is the usb data cable plug identical to the htc original handsfree plug which is an exact fit. as i mentioned before my data cable is more like a mini usb, like the motorolas use. it fits (not perfectly like the handsfree), charges but there is no recognition between the device and the pc (xpSP2 running activesync 4.5 which came with the device).
Please help, i may seem to be a noob but i have tried available advice and troubleshooting has become repetitive.
My Mobile Device Center from my Tilt to Windows Vista stopped working a few weeks ago. Tried everything to no avail.
there was one thing that i couldn't do while troubleshooting.
"Do the following:
Disconnect the device.
Open Network Connections in Control Panel on the PC.
Note If your Control Panel is set to Category View, open Network and Internet Connections, and then open Network Connections
Right-click the local area connection created by ActiveSync, and click Properties. In the Connect using box, Windows Mobile-based device is displayed.
In This connection uses the following items, select every check box (to select all protocols).
Reconnect the device."
i cannot see the network icon active sync has created. which leads me to believe that this might be the problem. does anyone know how to fix this?
will updating to SP3 do anything, gonna try will let you know.
link with answer:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=362679
thanks champ worked a treat. eventually.
Hi I have a fault with Activesync (Vista), I connect the USB cable to the PC and to the handset, the power indicator tells me that it's charging yet, the device is not syncronizing.
I have reset both the PC and the Device with no avail.
It was working OK about a week ago now nothing, I have not altered any settings and im running HYPERDRAGON III with radio 1.65.24.36 any suggestions???
You are required to search before posting, and seeing as this is a common problem I don't think you have met the requirements.
This is sort of an "advanced" users forum. If you don't search first, you won't get much help on here. Look at the top right, see the "search" click it, type in something and it should help you out. This is a very common problem, asked and answered many times.
I'll take a moment and try to help. It's just as easy as telling you to search.
I found a thread or two (the search is really time consuming. I don't find it to work all that great...find too much stuff unrealted to what you need). And they didn't help.
What I am only just not realizing is that it seems that the firewall with the Virus software may be interferring. If I turn off the firewall long enough to synch, it works.
What a pain, but that's what's working for me.
Never had this problem on XP.
Chillin like a Dylan
Thanks for the support and advice. I have followed instructions yet problem still pesists.
I have disabled firewall and Anti-Virus to no avail. When connecting the USB cable usually I hear a notification that the device is attached but this doesn't happen. Very puzzling!
Awesome problem solved. Reinstalled Wdinows Mobile Centre and all works ok now. Im not sure if this has any similarity but I know there was a Vista update the other day which may of interfered with the device drivers. Not sure.
But all is working well!
It'll be interesting to see if it keeps working well. INstalling WMDC was my first attempt at fixing. It appeared to fix, but the next time I went to synch, it didn't work again.
I spent the next 2-3 weeks reinstalling WMDC every tiem I wanted to sync, and it would sync.
I remain only able to do it if I disable my firewall (or reinstall WDMC, which I'm tired of). Of course, that could be vendor specific problem. I am using Trend Micro on my PC.
Nope issue still reminas, I'm pretty sure its the connectors in the Mini USB, on reading other forums I have discovered that the Mini USB port has been known to malfunction. This is due to the design of the port and the fact the cables shipped with the device are standard and not customised for the device.
I just wiggle around the socket a few times and hey it works (fingers crossed). Might justbrick it and order a replacment that will work if I can't sync any more.
I have also noticed that you have to wait after a soft reset for all of the programs to fully load. ESPECIALLY if you use BB Connect.
I believe this to be the true reason why rebooting a PC sometimes helps... it gives the Kaiser enough time to fully start.
instead of reinstalling WMDC, just make sure the service required to connect your device to your computer is running.
I believe its called windows mobile based connectivity. You wont be able to connect with that on manual. Switch it to automatic, as it sometimes likes to switch back to manual especially after a ROM flash.
I've been putting up with this since I got my Diamond, but now enough is enough
Has anyone experience Activesync disconnecting there device after a random period of time?
The device connecs and syncs - no problems - but after what might be 5mins, or 35mins (randomly does this...), it just disconnects!!
Appears to have nothing to do with charging (could be only partially charged or fully) or actual syncing process. Not a real issue as it still syncs initially and even when disconnects it still charges up from the USB but...this appears to be a flaw with the s/w of diamond or WM6.1 (to me...)
If this is an issue perhaps someone from HTC might read this and note same!
Happens to me too. Not all the time, not often... exactly random, as you said. Quite annoying
I'm sure there can't be just two of us! This happens to me for nearly every connection, the difference is sometimes its in 5min, sometimes 5hrs
BTW, this happens with both my work and home PC......
Surely there are others with this issue???
now i cannot even connect but when i can never it will never doconect except when you turn the screen off
Hi,
I have the same disconnect problem, varies every time.
Looks like I'm not alone... Every 5 mins I need to turn off and on my screen t to reconnect, no matter at home or at office.... you guys are right... ANNOYING
Not sure if this might work but in Device manager > USB Hub properties > untick Allow computer to turn off this device to save power.
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Not sure if this might work but in Device manager > USB Hub properties > untick Allow computer to turn off this device to save power.
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Thanks will try this {USB Root Hub} as it was actually clicked on....let you know how it goes!!
I haven't got any problem with Active Sync, both with Exchange server and with the desktop Outlook. Are you syncing with XP or Vista? I found Vista is rock solid when it comes to ActiveSync using their Mobile Device Center.
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I haven't got any problem with Active Sync, both with Exchange server and with the desktop Outlook. Are you syncing with XP or Vista? I found Vista is rock solid when it comes to ActiveSync using their Mobile Device Center.
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Hi there, using W2000 at work....
and using XP at home...which is marginally better!!
Have always had issues with Activsync..this is just another "first"
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I haven't got any problem with Active Sync, both with Exchange server and with the desktop Outlook. Are you syncing with XP or Vista? I found Vista is rock solid when it comes to ActiveSync using their Mobile Device Center.
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Don't speak too soon. I didn't up until a weeks ago.
having the same problem... activesyncs disconects as soon as htc diamond screen goes off..
any solutions?
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having the same problem... activesyncs disconects as soon as htc diamond screen goes off..
any solutions?
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sounds like the device is turning off (not just the screen off)...this will of course disconnect ASync
OK, USB power off is not the issue here as with power manegement off it still disconnects.....
....anyone familiar with asynckiller? Built into SwiftB ROMs and is always running...what does this optimise? Could it be the culprit
Asynckiller the culprit...testing now...
could be getting closer now....I reckon its this Asynckiller built into the ROM
see here...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=386948
Have shut it down with task manager and see if the sync holds....stay tuned
hey guys i've had the same problem too. the answer to your question is simple: if the screen turns off, the device goes to sleep, the activesync connection is terminated. simple as that. in most cases however, my diamond never goes to sleep mode when in activesync... so if yours does, that's a newer problem
Hi,
I have the same problem with activesync by usb. This is very annoying especially if you have to transfer large files, like maps with TomTom-Home.
It is not the standby-mode which causes the problem. Even without going into standby the connection get loss.
My solution for the problem is to use bluetooth for active sync. I never get disconnected even I stay connected for hours!
I assume it must have to do something with the usb-controller. When I connect my device as mass-storage with my linux computer and transfer much/large files, I can see a lag in transfer after some time. The transfer stops for some seconds and then it goes on again.
Maybe this is the reason why activesync lose the connection
Have ruled out asynckiller....this is not the issue. Brief correspondance with SwiftB and he thinks this issue has been around as long as WM6.1 as been i.e. MS Activsync issue (another one!!) oh so frustrating
I was having this same issue when using a generic cradle I sent off for to sit my HTC Touch Diamond in. I've gone back to the cable that comes in the box with it and suddenly no more disconnections! Are you all using cradles too?
Yep. Have the same problem. Using Vista and 6.1. It wasn't a problem with XP and WM 5, but has appeared with 6.1.
I don't think it is Vista, as it also happens on another machine with XP and 6.1. Also not to do with the power saving, screen sleep or 'phone sleep. I disabled these in turn and the 'phone still disconnects (it does seem to be the 'phone, not the PC - both Vista and XP work fine with two other WM5 devices, although Microsoft is as confusing as ever by saying that AS is no longer required with Vista, whilst selling WM that always requires AS, thus ensuring that AS on the 'phone has to sync with Mobile Connection Centre).
It has got better and worse during the 8 weeks I've had the 'phone - not clear whether this is ROM or application related, as I'm changing so many things at once. Clean ROM install seems to help, but then the problem reappears when all apps are back on the 'phone. Maybe it's not getting a necessary data connection signal from the PC? I'm running it from a Dell M1330 USB2 port.
Hi All,
I have a strange problem with my Tilt. Whenever I connect my Tilt to my PC using USB cable, it gets disconnected regularly. I have to unplug and replug the USB cable to get the ActiveSync working.
I am using windows 6.1 ATT official ROM. I tried multiple cables and multiple PCs and same issue is there.
Does anyone having any clue or similar problem and solution for this.
Thanks in advance
[email protected]
Check the pings in the mini usb port to make sure they aren't bent.
It's possible that you have a program causing it, use a task manager to turn them off if you can.
I already checks all the strips(pings) in the mini usb....and mini usb cable also....
How do I identify if some program is causing it?
I have the following program running on my tilt
MobileShell.exe
device.exe
filesys.exe
voicecmd.exe
gwes.exe
cprog.exe
s2u2.exe
shell32.exe
services.exe
quickGPS.exe
repllog.exe
connmgr.exe
taskMge.exe
iLock2.exe
HTCIMSSvc.exe
AutoUpdate.exe
poutlook.exe
NK.exe
use task manager to turn them off one by one or in groups.
[email protected] said:
I have to unplug and replug the USB cable to get the ActiveSync working.
I am using windows 6.1 ATT official ROM. I tried multiple cables and multiple PCs and same issue is there.
Does anyone having any clue or similar problem and solution for this.
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In the early days of my owning a TyTN II (HTC not AT&T Branded), I had this issue occuring often with my old PCs (via chipset USB 1.1 motherboards). Since updating the USB capability by addidng a decent NEC chipset based USB 2.0 PCI card, the connectivity problems vanished. Now I'm using an Intel DG45ID with USB 2.0 built in, the problem has never re-occurred. What are the ages / chipsets of these 'multiple PCs'? Have you tried connecting the Tilt to a newish PC?
I have a laptop not older than 2 years and it has intel 945 based chipset (which definetly support USB 2.0) and another PC on which I have tried also has 945 based chipset.
I think you are right, the issue is the USB ports. one of them showing an error when I pluging anything into this and I think other are not working properly too in my laptop but they are not showing an error.
However I tried different (other than I used) USB port in my Desktop and I do not see the issue.
Thanks for your help. We got the root cause but I dont know how to fix it in my laptop maybe usb port got the dust on it.
[email protected]
[email protected] said:
We got the root cause but I dont know how to fix it in my laptop maybe usb port got the dust on it.
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Those Intel 945 chipsets should definitely be able to cope with the USB demand alright. In time after installing lots of different USB devices through a given USB port, remnants of past driver associations etc can remain and it's often a good idea every now and again to perform a 'from the ground up' format and reinstal. If you have a recovery CDROM from the Laptop manufacturer (preumably this is what you're using as your main PC), then this will simplify things tremendously. Just make sure you back up all your important data before you commence the recovery operation.
I dont want to restart every thing I have lots of software and thing which will take ample of my time.
I am using Vista home premium, is there any way to clean up the driver related stuff.
[email protected]
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I dont want to restart every thing I have lots of software and thing which will take ample of my time.
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I do understand as I've worked in IT in the past. You may find however that a restore/reinstall from scratch is the quickest way rather than going through looking for remnanats of files and unused registry entries to clear out. Its always a good idea to format your PCs HDD every so often anyway and usually the performance boost that comes with an efficient 'how it was meant to be' setup, helps to compensate for the time and effort it takes.
I am using Vista home premium, is there any way to clean up the driver related stuff.
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You could try using system recovery (I presume thats in Vista Home Premium, I don't have Vista myself), but I don't have much faith in such inbuilt recovery options. It'd also mean you need to know when to recover back to - the $64,000 question. You could also try uninstalling all the USB related things in device manager (with all USB devices unplugged at the time of course) and on restarting, the PC should pick them all up again (have your driver CDROMs on hand in case it doesn't). Personally, I'd just back up my data, get my software installation CDROMs ready and perform a full laptop system recovery using the manufacturers CDROM.
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I do understand as I've worked in IT in the past. You may find however that a restore/reinstall from scratch is the quickest way rather than going through looking for remnanats of files and unused registry entries to clear out. Its always a good idea to format your PCs HDD every so often anyway and usually the performance boost that comes with an efficient 'how it was meant to be' setup, helps to compensate for the time and effort it takes.
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I understand......I will do the same when I'll get the time.
Thank You
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Those Intel 945 chipsets should definitely be able to cope with the USB demand alright. In time after installing lots of different USB devices through a given USB port, remnants of past driver associations etc can remain and it's often a good idea every now and again to perform a 'from the ground up' format and reinstal. If you have a recovery CDROM from the Laptop manufacturer (preumably this is what you're using as your main PC), then this will simplify things tremendously. Just make sure you back up all your important data before you commence the recovery operation.
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That should be the very last bit of advise to give out, and really I think thats very very bad advice.. Ah infact he claims that it happens on more then one computer, so it's a problem with the phone. I'm sure the "remnants" of drivers don't stay in the cable..
I tried multiple cables and multiple PCs and same issue is there.
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Did you ever kill those programs running in the background? Have you reset the phone, sheesh make sure to do that before wiping your computer. Very bad advice!!
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Did you ever kill those programs running in the background? Have you reset the phone, sheesh make sure to do that before wiping your computer. Very bad advice!!
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No I haven't, however I too feel that it is the problem of the USB port or cable. I again tried on my desktop (with XP) on different ports (on board earliar I was trying with the front side USB ports) and seems to be fine, not showing and disconnecting issue. I do not know why there is a difference in usb ports.
My laptop with Vista still having an issue. One of the port even showing an error when I try to connect it.
It seems that the safe bet when syncing is to use XP.. I know that with notebooks the USB ports can be flakey because of power issues but that shouldn't be a big deal with a desktop.. Try your XP desktop and hopefully you'll have some good luck.
I'd like to say I've had this problem before, but I don't remember what I did to fix it.
I agree - well, with one point anyway
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Have you reset the phone
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That's a good idea to try as well, a combination of both will almost certainly fix things. I guess my personal experience with this and the cause having been USB port related on the PCs (both with older VIA chipsets) led me in the direction of the PCs USB ports and everything surrounding them. You hit the nail on the head with with your comments about power issues on ports. I remember that one of the things which tended to bring on a disconnect in my last VIA chipset board was starting the TV Tuner up - the extra power consumed by the tuner put the rest of the chipset into a position where it simply couldn't cope with what Activesync was asking of it and the problem was 100% repeatable. I also found with that setup that I needed to disable Advanced Networking functionality on the phone or it wouldn't connect at all - although that didn't cause unreliable connections, it simply wouldn't connect with Advanced Networking Capability enabled. The newer USB port adapter card resolved all of these issues.
If [email protected] has lots of software installed on the PC, there may be lots on the phone as well so if thats the case, it'll mean a little work reinstalling cabs and reconfiguring there as well but I'm all for occasional cleanouts for restoring reliability and performance - the difference is often like night and day. Thanks for the additional positive idea among all the negatives.
Not able to connect to internet with Active sync
I don't know what is happening......now I am facing new issue.
I am able to connect to internet by Active sync on my vista laptop but its not working on XP desktop.
I have default connections in connection setting and I manually added for my ISP(Airtel).
I already tried deleting and resetting the sync settings, tried different setting on XP(Active Sync) but no use. Its working fine with Vista (WMDC).
Any help would be gratful.
Thanks.
[email protected] said:
I am able to connect to internet by Active sync on my vista laptop but its not working on XP desktop.
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I'm not sure what you want to connect to the internet - is it so you can have your Kaiser use your desktop PCs internet connection (what I suspect is the case) or the other way around (in which case internet connection sharing would come into play)?
I have default connections in connection setting and I manually added for my ISP(Airtel).
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If the problem is the former above, try changing the 'Automatic' in the Desktop Activesync 'This computer is connected to' section to 'The internet'. I had a WM 6.1 HTC ROM on my Kaiser for a while and this was the only way I could get it to connect (the WM 6.0 ROM works fine in this regard under Automatic). Not sure what you mean by manually added Airtel though. If thats also your landline ISP, I've never experienced a need to configure down to the level of specifying the ISPs name. The only ISP where names come into it in my experience is the one the phone is connected to over the air as the network of choice (Airtel going by your profile) and that should be fully set up using the HTC Configuration Wizard built into HTC TyTN II ROMs automatically a short while after it connects to the network for the first time (or after a hard reset). Is this not happening for you?
I already tried deleting and resetting the sync settings, tried different setting on XP(Active Sync) but no use. Its working fine with Vista (WMDC).
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If you've tried the above config change in the XP machines Activesync settings, you could always try uninstalling and reinstalling Activesync 4.5 after you've backed up important data from the phone.
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I'm not sure what you want to connect to the internet - is it so you can have your Kaiser use your desktop PCs internet connection (what I suspect is the case) or the other way around (in which case internet connection sharing would come into play)?
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Yes, I am talking about the former one.
If the problem is the former above, try changing the 'Automatic' in the Desktop Activesync 'This computer is connected to' section to 'The internet'. I had a WM 6.1 HTC ROM on my Kaiser for a while and this was the only way I could get it to connect (the WM 6.0 ROM works fine in this regard under Automatic).
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Tried but no use. Still not able to update the weather and access the internet by opera/IE mobile.
Not sure what you mean by manually added Airtel though. If thats also your landline ISP, I've never experienced a need to configure down to the level of specifying the ISPs name. The only ISP where names come into it in my experience is the one the phone is connected to over the air as the network of choice (Airtel going by your profile) and that should be fully set up using the HTC Configuration Wizard built into HTC TyTN II ROMs automatically a short while after it connects to the network for the first time (or after a hard reset). Is this not happening for you?
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No, I have to manually add the configuration to connect to my ISP(Airtel) over the air (Edge). I know this nothing to do with active sync but I mentioned it here for the sake of the information.
If you've tried the above config change in the XP machines Activesync settings, you could always try uninstalling and reinstalling Activesync 4.5 after you've backed up important data from the phone.
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I tried this too, still no success.
Any other suggestion would be grateful.
[email protected] said:
I tried this too, still no success.
Any other suggestion would be grateful.
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Try disabling or removing any software firewall on the XP machine if it has any? Is the phone in the same state when you connect it via WMDC and this works as when you attempt the same through Activesync 4.5 and it doesn't? Did you end up doing the hard reset suggested?
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Try disabling or removing any software firewall on the XP machine if it has any?
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I have AVG 8.5 free Edition, but I dont think AVG firewall is creating any problem as I have access internet in tha past using the same machine. Anyways I will check it out.
Is the phone in the same state when you connect it via WMDC and this works as when you attempt the same through Activesync 4.5 and it doesn't?
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yes.
Did you end up doing the hard reset suggested?
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I will not do this as it time consuming to setup all the things.