TT Navigator 7 randomly loses contact with GPS device - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III Themes and Apps

I have used TomTom Navigator 6 on my Kaiser for over a year with no problems whatsoever. A few weeks ago I upgraded to Navigator 7 which supports MapShare.
Navigator 7 works fine, but since installing it, every once in a while the screen colors go black and TT says '"no GPS Device". Sometimes, the problem fixes itself in a few seconds, but sometimes it will not restore connection to the built-in GPS until I do a soft reset.
Any ideas how this bug can be solved? It's quite annoying...

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Using GPS brings machine to crawl

I have a HTC Tytn II Pro. Everything works great, except GPS.
The CDs did not have any Tomtom application, but I had my own copies of Destinator, Igo 2006 Plus and Mapopolis, along with Map4Pda.
When I try to access the GPS via any of these apps using COM4:, the machine slows down terribly. I haven't been able to get a fix so far either. This morning Quickfix GPS was downloading fine, now it gives connection errors.
I haven't messed with GPS Control Panel yet, but I am wondering if I have a faulty unit, or does the Tomtom 6.032 unlock/change something to make it work.
Has anyone used the unit's GPS without any Tomtom install first? Did anyone experience any slowness using GPS?
Any suggestions? I tried a hard reset and just installed Map4Pda after that, still no luck.
That strange if you dont have TomTom6 in the Application CD.
It is called:
Installer_Kaiser_ttn_6_032_8351_HTC_WWE_20070716.exe
Check your manual, is TomTom6 mentioned there?
If it is, why dont you contact your supplier and ask?
Btw, I use TomTom6 from CD and it is running fine. Got fix pretty quickly under 30 seconds.
TT6
Seems like TT is not on CDs in north america.
Get it - TT6 works like a charm, fix in less then 7 secs here (use the gps quickfix download) and very responsive - even at high speeds.
No complaints on TT for TyTNII
my app cds had the tomtom app.... bought in vegas (uk plug though)
Please test, some reports the gps lost signal after 1 hour.
nukenine said:
Seems like TT is not on CDs in north america.
Get it - TT6 works like a charm, fix in less then 7 secs here (use the gps quickfix download) and very responsive - even at high speeds.
No complaints on TT for TyTNII
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zetajunkie said:
my app cds had the tomtom app.... bought in vegas (uk plug though)
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My app cd says MEA, so it must be from Middle East/Asia. And manual does not refer to TomTom at all. I bought it through SuperiorGadgets. I don't think it is their fault though, it appears devices from certain regions don't have Tomtom.
With that said, I made another hard reset on Friday evening, first installed Beeline GPS, which got a lock after a minute and QuickGPS was updating fine too. Then I installed my apps, after installing several I checked it again, Beeline was fine. Finally I installed Igo 2006 Plus (June 2007 version) and that is working fine and slowness with GPS is gone away. It makes me wonder what caused it in the first place. I'll install couple more GPS apps and see what happens.
HTC TYTN II GPS (Kais 130) - Got it working.....YES
Hi Guys,
I just bougth this HTC TYTN 2 and it seems ok.
For the GPS, I installed Google maps which did not find any satellites either.
I then copied visualgpsce.exe ( in the attachment) on the kaiser and ran it from there, it got 7 sattelites in less than 10 seconds. after that, google worked like magic. I did not have TOMTOM on my CD either so i could not try it and I am in an area that is not covered by maps from TOMTOM, but i think it will work just fine after this nice warmup.
It seems that the first connection require some clear skies, nice warm up software and some patience.
Thanks and good luck.
I'm in the states, got it from Mobileocity. Came with TT6 on app disc. Works like a charm, finds location within 10sec, no slowdown on system.
Hi
Please test, some reports the gps lost signal after 1 hour.
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No problems here, been working perfectly on journeys of 3 and 4 hours.
Regards
Phil
Yeah, it worked perfectly on my last journey too (each 1.5 hour).

GPS not working.

Hello,
I am trying to help a friend with a Kaiser and wants his iGo working in it.
Everything seems ok, iGo starts but after some seconds it shuts down. I tried to change GPS port and everything else I could thought but problem persists. Any advice?
UnlockBR said:
Hello,
I am trying to help a friend with a Kaiser and wants his iGo working in it.
Everything seems ok, iGo starts but after some seconds it shuts down. I tried to change GPS port and everything else I could thought but problem persists. Any advice?
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Did you try Tomtom before iGo? I have the same issue with google maps. It will seek sats and give up saying no gps signal. But if I run tomtom and then start gmaps it works fine (inside buildings). I would suggest you open iGO outside and check it out. Are you using COM4?
Will check... now he is travelling (Poland) but will call me when he came back.
I did not tried TOM TOM...
find a free program called GPS Test. Set it to Com 4 / 4800. Much smaller than TomTom and certainly an app that's worth keeping on it.
-Mc
the issue is that the internal GPS on the Kaiser needs to be "jump started" there a few apps that do this a free one that is also good is GPSViewer and the others mentioned above. I use TomTom well since it came with my Kaiser and with all that Damn Program memory who the hell cares if I use 10MB to install TomTom and a Map
I have never had problems with starting my GPS. I did a quick fix once and have used it with first Google maps (no problem) then Pocketstreets (again no issue) and finally Tom Tom.
I have never had to wait more than 20 seconds or so for a fix. Make sure you are outside before starting the application though.

Hw6510 & TomTom 6

I have just installed TomTom 6 on my HW6510. I can get the sound working by renaming the file BtCoreIf.dll. However I can't select the internal GPS receiver by following the instructions on a previous thread.
I deleted the file Navigator (under the directory navigator) - on restarting TomTom it just asks me for preferences (language, left / right handed etc..) it does not give me any options for selecting the receiver.
I must be missing something but don't know what.
Any help would be appreciated.
Dump tomtom
had loads of never ending issues with tomtom on my 6515. between map errors , no sound, hig system requirements and plain bad programming i eventually followed a complaint thread at pda4x.com and decided to go with IGO. never looked back, even dumped tomtom off my wifes pda and installed IGO for her as well.
Possibly its just the Australia maps that are that bad on tomtom but i find IGO to be a far superior product with greater ease of use and better routing. Easier to install, and NO ISSUES!!!
I am afraid i cant help you. tomtom runs buggy on my tornado and on my old blue angel when i had it , it worked ok, but slow, i got it running perfectly with the 6515 for about two weeks, after which it started loosing the gps.. (ie: had to find gps hardware every time i started tomtom). But note, when it was running it ws sluggish (possibly sd issues).I reiterate what i said in the last post. dump tomtom. on this device igo 2007+ runs waaaaaaaaaaaaaaay better, much faster response and no bugs. Personally i find the routing to be better anyhow.
PS. Garmin XT runs fantastically. installed since my last post. if one was to install a cracked version, which of course one would not do, i would have to say the process was horribly complicated . But worth it. garmin has to date given me the best drive, plus integration of the garmin desktop map bundles available make it a win win
if you need help with the garmin install for integrated gps units pm me!
Thanks for the response - I will probably change to iGO. Before I do, one point to clarify, you state "after which it started loosing the gps.. (ie: had to find gps hardware every time i started tomtom)".
Was the finding of the GPS hardware an automatic action once TomTom started or was this something you had to force?
nope random, seemed to be tied to the autoupdate feature of the quickgps software on the 6515. if gprs was not connected then somehow it would not go over to old manual sattelite fix and just hung in limbo. if gprs is on or quickgps is in an "updated" state it seemed fine. the quickfix was to go into tomtom gps settings and "refind" the gps each time. damn annoying.
note here.. both tom tom and igo seemed to "lose focus" because of the quickgps app. basically you tap tomtom navigator shortcut.. tomtom boots, but then quickgps kicks in and shifts focus from tomtom and never gives it back until you tap the screen. in the case of IGO this was worse because if you tapped the [backarrow] button on the menu it would tap the windows key instead and the only way to fix that is to actualy start an app on the start bar drop down then kil it and "focus" would return to Igo. Once again only an issue if the quickgps software is not up to date. when i say update i mean that its downloaded the latest sattelite position files, not the actual program version update. I did update the version from ver 1.3 to ver 1.6 did not fix this issue
best of luck
PS I got a p3600i the other day.. lovely phone but sucks butt as a gps (very slow sattelite fix) compared to the 6515 running igo so my 6515 still lives in my car
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nope random, seemed to be tied to the autoupdate feature of the quickgps software on the 6515. if gprs was not connected then somehow it would not go over to old manual sattelite fix and just hung in limbo. if gprs is on or quickgps is in an "updated" state it seemed fine. the quickfix was to go into tomtom gps settings and "refind" the gps each time. damn annoying.
note here.. both tom tom and igo seemed to "lose focus" because of the quickgps app. basically you tap tomtom navigator shortcut.. tomtom boots, but then quickgps kicks in and shifts focus from tomtom and never gives it back until you tap the screen. in the case of IGO this was worse because if you tapped the [backarrow] button on the menu it would tap the windows key instead and the only way to fix that is to actualy start an app on the start bar drop down then kil it and "focus" would return to Igo. Once again only an issue if the quickgps software is not up to date. when i say update i mean that its downloaded the latest sattelite position files, not the actual program version update. I did update the version from ver 1.3 to ver 1.6 did not fix this issue
best of luck
PS I got a p3600i the other day.. lovely phone but sucks butt as a gps (very slow sattelite fix) compared to the 6515 running igo so my 6515 still lives in my car
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Not bad. Good use of your old phone.

Kaiser GPS Reset???

Is there a way to reset Kaisers gps?
I tried to search but didn't find a guide to do this.
I know that there is a way to reset bluetooth gps receiver but no reset guide for kaiser or other build-in gps.
Read my signature and there you see my rom&radio etc.
It takes long time to get fix and I tought that gps reset might help.
Tried many programs: Tomtom 6, Igo 8, Htc gps tool, Htc gps test.
Same effect with all of above.
Erratic GPS performance needs more than a reset
It seems that the TyTN IIs GPS performance under WM 6.1 is quite erratic compared to WM 6. I've experienced very slow times to get a fix also, even though if the device is stationary and you shut it down then restart, it gets a fix in blazingly fast times. The problem is not that GPS needs to be reset because even powering off the TyTN II and restarting it doesn't solve this problem. I've notified Tomtom about it and I'm waiting to hear back from them if they have a patch or new GPS driver version that will cure this problem. I'd much rather have the device take a few seconds longer to get a fix in the above situation if it means it didn't take over 8 minutes (at which point I gave up and shut it down) to get a fix in places/situations where it used to take under one.
I shut down kaiser with powerbutton (not stylys+soft reset)
Turned on and ran htc gps test. Almost right away in view 2 satellites but no fix. It takes about 5 minutes to get proper fix. In view 13 | Fix 8 to 9. So gps is working perfectly but the time to get fix is too much.
Have the same problem, but its not TomToms issue - the same happens with google maps.
I think the problem is related to the device not using the quick gps download data and therefore you have to wait for the almanac data to be aquired from the satalites. Once aquired, a short power down usually results in a fast lock to the satelites, however the longer the gps is off, the longer it takes to lock to the gps.
Even hotfix is not fast. I am using quick gps..
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Have the same problem, but its not TomToms issue - the same happens with google maps.
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Thanks for that report, I haven't installed Google Maps since I've flashed my TyTN II but this doesn't surprise me.
I think the problem is related to the device not using the quick gps download data and therefore you have to wait for the almanac data to be aquired from the satalites. Once aquired, a short power down usually results in a fast lock to the satelites, however the longer the gps is off, the longer it takes to lock to the gps.
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That fit's in with my experience for Tomtom except even once the data has been updated eg after a fix has been successfully obtained and Quick GPS was updated a few minutes earlier, shutting down Tomtom and restarting it whilst on the move (such as in a train), results in a fix taking ages - far longer than with WM 6. Does anyone know if HTCs Quick GPS program has been updated for WM 6.1 or what the latest version is? Mine says Version 1.0 (rarely a good thing) Build 220.821 but interestingly the copyright date is shown as 2006 - 2008.

Diamond - TomTom - suddenly stops working during journey!!

Hi
I have a HTC Diamond (t-Mobile, but with the HTC stock rom rather than the T-Mobile OS)
Using TomTom (TomTom 2003)
Used to use it on previous Windows Mobile phone with HTC rom without issue
It works until i go on a motorway, and then it suddenly doesnt know where it is
The blue car icon just floats off into the greenery, and that is that
Any ideas?
Thanks
what on earth is TomTom 2003?! Maybe go for TT6 or TT7.
Sounds like your description of the problem is not very accurate. -> it is working i.e. not crashing out, but your GPS may be losing position / fix.
How do you mean "blue car icon just floats off into the greenery"
Help us to help you with more detail!
PS did you download the Quick GPS Fix data, and did you get a proper lock before commencing driving?
I have found once or twice that the Diamond doesn't quite know where it is (a few metres out, just enough to lose the "snap-to" the correct road).
Restarting TomTom or the phone fixed it.
I know motorways dont move but your map data for other roads could be out of date if your using 2003. I had to disable assisted GPS (using advanced config) and stopped using the Quick GPS program on my diamond because the GPS stopped working in any application after about 5 minutes. Now I dont have any problems with the GPS using TT7 or Memory Map.
Using Dutty 2.5 and 05 radio by the way
never had a problem with Quick GPS Fix.....As far as I know I have not disabled advanced GPS.
I have a standard Orange 1.37.405 unlocked ROM and 25.03 radio.
Using a 5 year old mapping product is probably not the greatest idea (I found some road errors even in TT7.)
What kind of devices were you running TT2003 on?!?! I would think that an update is in order....
LOL....bit like running Win3.1 applications on a Windows Vista machine...er, perhaps it might not work correctly
Hello,
I have the same problem with TomTom6. Last week I had a trip about 100 km on german motorway. After ca. 45 minutes wihtout any problem TomTom screen becomes gray for a minute. No gps-signal. A minuter later screen return to color an gps seems to be fixed again. But then: It doesn´t track correct - recognized, when blue arrow leaves street. After a while TomTom hang up fully.
Only manual restart and softreset are a solution.
Wht maybe the reason for this (no a-gps activated, but qucik gps).
Peter

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