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I have just installed Opera Mini 4 Beta 2 on my Tilt.
I'd like to use it as my default browser, however it's annoying that every time I open it I get asked if I really want to allow it to connect because it is an "untrusted application".
I have an unlimited data plan, so I want to change it to be a "trusted" application so I don't have to tell the Tilt it is ok to use every time I open it.
Sorry for the newb question. I didn't see a lot on a search.
Thanks!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332087&page=2
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332087&page=2
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Hey, that's perfect! Thanks, you rock!
Ok, after trying everything in that thread I am still having some issues and it appears that there is at least one other guy that can't get it to work on the Kaiser (I have the Tilt).
I've tried hex editing the selector.utf file myself as well as downloading the fix.exe file that is provided in that link and neither one works.
I have the Opera Mini browser mapped to the PIE button just fine, but the problem is getting the "untrusted" thing to go away.
When I change the selector.utf file so that the line reading "domain=untrusted," is now "domain=tckmax ," when I press the PIE button I get an error that says:
"Could not find suite s0_"
However, I can see that the s0_suite.utf file is in my appdb directory.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
ETA: I've seen some mention "cloudyfa's" jbed will work. Where can I get that jbed? Search turned up nothing.
Anyone?
I haven't been able to get this to work. I think it has to do with the jbed that I am running (stock jbed that came with the tilt).
The only info I could seem to find was that some guy named cloudyfa has a custom jbed that will get rid of the "untrusted" warning, but searching hasn't come up with anything on cloudyfa.
Can anyone help point me to a jbed that will work?
Thanks!
have you tried kaiser tweak, there is a function to disable warning.
kms
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1483665&postcount=24
VTX said:
Ok, after trying everything in that thread I am still having some issues and it appears that there is at least one other guy that can't get it to work on the Kaiser (I have the Tilt).
I've tried hex editing the selector.utf file myself as well as downloading the fix.exe file that is provided in that link and neither one works.
I have the Opera Mini browser mapped to the PIE button just fine, but the problem is getting the "untrusted" thing to go away.
When I change the selector.utf file so that the line reading "domain=untrusted," is now "domain=tckmax ," when I press the PIE button I get an error that says:
"Could not find suite s0_"
However, I can see that the s0_suite.utf file is in my appdb directory.
Any ideas?
Thanks!
ETA: I've seen some mention "cloudyfa's" jbed will work. Where can I get that jbed? Search turned up nothing.
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OK, you can't just replace "untrusted" with "tckmax". you have to pad it with spaces to the same length. I.e. replace "untrusted" with "tckmax ". That will eliminate the "cannot find S0_..." issue. However, I do that, and I still get the nag messages.
OK, the tckmax fix seems not to work for my stock java Esmertec JBed that was on the Kaiser ROM. I installed this Cloudyfa version (which has a different/more recent build date) and voila, it works now without the nag...Thanks for the link to the latest version!
Can you copy your quick launch icon for me? I just cant seem to get the .ink to work. I dont know is it that TC cant make it right, i read it somewhere.
Well, you can't just copy someone's because it depends on what other java apps you have installed on your phone.
but the easiest way to create one is to simply use a Notepad to create simple text file. And it should only contain the following text:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s1_
BUT you may need to edit it and replace the S1_ with something else. if this is the only Java app you have installed and used, then most likely you want to use S0_ in place of S1_.
Name it Opera.lnk (or whatever you want it to say).
And then copy it to your "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder.
Thanks to you guys who figured this out. This one of the little annoying things
that ticked me off. I'd have to first: click on the java shortcut, then click on opera mini, then click on yes to permissions, then yes to connect.
Now I just click on the Opera mini shortcut and BOOM! Up and going, plus I have the IE button reassigned as Opera Mini
THANKS!
jomo25 said:
Well, you can't just copy someone's because it depends on what other java apps you have installed on your phone.
but the easiest way to create one is to simply use a Notepad to create simple text file. And it should only contain the following text:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s1_
BUT you may need to edit it and replace the S1_ with something else. if this is the only Java app you have installed and used, then most likely you want to use S0_ in place of S1_.
Name it Opera.lnk (or whatever you want it to say).
And then copy it to your "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder.
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Tried that, only thing i get is a non working .ink file. Closest ive got on creating the working quick launcher is with TC. It just opens the java applet and says could not find suite s0_.
I think the easiest way would be if some one is kind enough to copy me the working file. I have the Cloudyfa's EsmertecJbed intalled and it is s0_ where it needs to point to. I got rid of the nag, only thing that isnt working is the straight shortcut to open Opera.
i have'nt tried opera, but has anyone tried installed the kaiser tweak, there is a function to disable security warnings.
kms
Attached for S0_. Had to ZIP it so can upload.
Never used KaiserTweak. But I did get the nags to stop via my actions above. Not sure if KT would eliminate it.
Thanks, that one worked straight away. Strange, but it must be that what a read in some post about Total Commander not doing the shortcut right.
Any ideas is it possible to get a quick launch button straight to Opera on TrayLnch?
Anyone? Is it possible?
kms108 said:
i have'nt tried opera, but has anyone tried installed the kaiser tweak, there is a function to disable security warnings.
kms
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BTW, Kaiser Tweak doesn't suppress these security messages. Its a different kind of msg it suppresses.
did anyone ever get this to work for mini 4.2? I've been battling it for a couple hours now with no success. I've tried editing the utf file, but I always still get the untrusted app and network access prompt. Any pointers would be greatly appreciated. Thanks.
Hi Team,
Opera mini 4 has made my mobile surfing heaven. Good bye PIE! Thank god.
However. I have two queries.
1. Anyone know how to get shot of the annoying "Allo Net Access" Prompt every time i run the midlet? In my Java prog under security I only get "Ask" and "Never Allow". Need an "Always Allow" option, but it's just not there.
2. How the hell do i directly link to a java program, without having to first boot up java, then choose the app? I know this will be possible, but haven't fathomed it yet. I'm wanting to stuff the link under the internet button so I can be rid of PIE for ever.
Any advice greatly appreciated.
Many thanks,
Matt
OM4 is a java midlet - you must access it through Java. You can make shortcut on Today screen.
As to the "allowing network access", after you have opened program, go to Bookmarks and then Opera Mini - you will find options there. But basically, you will always have to check allow access to network.
Both can be done.
http://pdaphonehome.com/forums/ppc-...ed-includes-info-new-java-midlet-manager.html
EDIT: I attached the files discussed in case you don't want to register.
Yes, both can be done. Here are the simplest instructions I put together a while back.
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1270419
And yes, grab the fix.zip in the last post above and you can skip step 1 in my instructions in the linked thread...
The issue with the direct link works fine. But I have already tried to modifiy the selector.utf in both ways, by the fix and by using an hex editor.
But I still get this damn access questions.
I use a TyTNII with shipped HTC Rom with Opera Mini 4 final installed.
The description in your posted link is for OM beta2. May it be that modifications
are not suitable anymore for version 4 final?
A solution would be great.
Hans Olo
Edit: Ok, seen in the link of the last post from jomo25 that the version of jbed is the cause. Thanx for the info.
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This is all perrrrfect. Is there a way to change the Icon?
if you want to make a shortcut to launch Opera Mini directly:
Use a Notepad on your PC to create simple text file. And it should only contain the following text:
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run s1_
BUT you may need to edit it and replace the S1_ with something else. if this is the only Java app you have installed and used, then most likely you want to use S0_ in place of S1_.
Name it Opera.lnk (or whatever you want it to say).
And then copy it to your "\Windows\Start Menu\Programs" folder.
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I can launch Opera Mini in Esmertec Jbed with no problem.
I can see the Opera Mini with the same logo as Esmertec Jbed in Programs (I change the name to Opera Mini.lnk),
but I just can't launch Opera Mini by tapping it.
I tried both s0_ and s1_ but get the same result, it says:
Could not find suite s1_
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Could not find suite s0_
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It might be s2, s3 or more - the s# changes based on how many other java apps you previously installed. Even if you had one and deleted it, it still counts as one. So try some more numbers.
Also Hans- make sure you are using JBED and it should work.
xTyTN said:
I can launch Opera Mini in Esmertec Jbed with no problem.
I can see the Opera Mini with the same logo as Esmertec Jbed in Programs (I change the name to Opera Mini.lnk),
but I just can't launch Opera Mini by tapping it.
I tried both s0_ and s1_ but get the same result, it says:
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I had that same problem yesterday. I tried putting the s1_ in double quotes.
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run "s1_"
Once I did that it finally worked for me.
enigmaneo said:
I had that same problem yesterday. I tried putting the s1_ in double quotes.
28#"\windows\jbed.exe" -run "s1_"
Once I did that it finally worked for me.
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Thanks enigmaneo, it works for me, too
Also make sure you ALWAYS check out the Wiki - I've explained all these questions in my Opera Mini- and MIDlet-related tutorials & articles (see for example http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=The (Java) MIDlet Bible and http://wiki.xda-developers.com/inde...n use Opera Mini as the system-level browser! - make sure you follow the links from the latter)
Thanks for this info... took me to "s7" until it worked. Thought I was doing something wrong...
UPDATE (11/30/2007): The link association problem has been fixed for WM6 in the meantime (see my last article on the association). This means you can already have the system invoke Opera Mini when you click a link in an e-mail / in any document.
Note that there are still newer and newer versions and optimizations (even faster and faster versions of the invoker script to minimize waiting for Opera Mini to be invoked) published in the Comments section of my related blog post; that is, make sure you also follow it.
And, again, now that you can easily invoke it from any other application (including the most important Messaging) by just clicking any link, Opera Mini HAS become a REAL alternative to all the other, mostly commercial alternatives on Windows Mobile. Make sure you give Opera Mini a try: you may fall in love with it. It’s really powerful. It’s plain great –(most of the times) much faster and cleaner than anything else.
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And, again, now that you can easily invoke it from any other application (including the most important Messaging) by just clicking any link, Opera Mini HAS become a REAL alternative to all the other, mostly commercial alternatives on Windows Mobile. Make sure you give Opera Mini a try: you may fall in love with it. It’s really powerful. It’s plain great –(most of the times) much faster and cleaner than anything else.
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I couldn't agree more. This little fix with turning off the notification to accept the session has made it a lot more usable to me. The browser is awesome and while it can be slow sometimes due to formatting the page, etc., I wouldn't use anything else. PIE simply falls flat in comparison.
I just really dig the screen scrolling with my fingernail (screen protector on there of course).
I did managed to get the shortcut to work but for some reason i just can't get the notification removed. I've downloaded the fix, patched the "Selector" file, replaced it in the phone but it still won't work & yes i did download the JBED from the link given...still no luck. Anything i may have missed out?
Scann69 said:
I did managed to get the shortcut to work but for some reason i just can't get the notification removed. I've downloaded the fix, patched the "Selector" file, replaced it in the phone but it still won't work & yes i did download the JBED from the link given...still no luck. Anything i may have missed out?
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You, then, can just use the hack described at http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1666254&postcount=6 - it'll work. Also make sure you read the entire thread.
I don't know what I am doing wrong. I even copied the text from the post and I have gone through 0-8. When I tap the opera icon it opens the text file. I have even tried it with and without the extra quotation marks.
What am I doing wrong?
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I don't know what I am doing wrong. I even copied the text from the post and I have gone through 0-8. When I tap the opera icon it opens the text file. I have even tried it with and without the extra quotation marks.
What am I doing wrong?
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Did you also try the hacked JAR file I linked to? It WILL work if you deploy it locally and manually set the Blanket model.
Jar file
Can you post the link? I can't seem to find it
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Can you post the link? I can't seem to find it
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http://www.winmobiletech.com/sekalaiset/opera-mini-4.0.9751-advanced-int-SIGNED.jar
Hi everyone,
i went to a 3store today to get a TYTN 2 on 3 network UK. I thought we could use the free skype minutes they offer on other handsets, but they said no, use the wifi!!!
I was wondering if anyone knows a way to connect to their skype service. Thanks
PS: Please include links to any software or recent methods you might know.
Hi, I'd also like to know if this possible. Have a 3 PAYG sim and get 30 days free skype when I pay for the internet add-on but cannot work out how to use the 3G network for my calls. Cheers
I think fring will do what you want.
The website says you can make skype calls.
www.fring.com "fring is based on a unique thin-client technology that for the first time enables true VoIP over 3G, GPRS and WiFi networks"
I installed it on my stock rom AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) but have not tested.
I hope that helps.
j
any java skype client in the uk?
jlewisdaville said:
I think fring will do what you want.
The website says you can make skype calls.
www.fring.com "fring is based on a unique thin-client technology that for the first time enables true VoIP over 3G, GPRS and WiFi networks"
I installed it on my stock rom AT&T Tilt (Kaiser) but have not tested.
I hope that helps.
j
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Thanks but i think for that you should have access to the internet. I can easily use the skype program instead. The problem is that skype is not the type of skype 3 network is using ( they use a java based program).
I read an article and someone had used the skype from a LG phones with 3 and Esmertec Jbed, but that was an Australian version. does anyone have a UK version?
This would rock if it is possible! Anyone know where to download a UK version?
I think we need to find someone with a non nokia phone from 3 UK, so he can give us the jar file. preferably LG
What do you think?
anyone from uk? or anyone knows a professional UK website? please
Anyone found this?
Can anyone with a TyTn II from the 3 network confirm if it comes with Planet 3 and Skype software installed?
I use Three...
Ah, you forgot to read the ultra-small fine print that states that the offer for *all* phones has expired and it's now only on *selected* handsets that seem to exclude the TyTN 2, also you can't get the sim-only and install the Three free Skype or Live Messenger on a non-Three phone+rom without some custom ROM hacking.
To make matters worse, if you get the £5 Unlimited Internet Access, the small print is that Three block Skype and Live Messenger so they can't be used (thought I think you can buy the £10 option that allows them?) - even if you want to pay for them outside the unlimited bundle. You can use IM+ BeejiveIM etc, to access Live Messenger though, and as far as I'm aware it seems to be included in the Unlimited access...
Oh, and if you want to access Planet3/My3 on your phone you can do so, but first you need to go into Advanced Config and change your "User Agent Custom Base" to "HTC_TyTN_II Mozilla/4.0" and then use the URL "http://mobile.three.co.uk/837_sc/index.do"
The Planet3/My3 will only work when accessing the page though the 3 connection and not WiFI or ActiveSync, but is acuttaly pritty nifty at checking you accound balance, tops ups, addons and such like.
Percz said:
Ah, you forgot to read the ultra-small fine print that states that the offer for *all* phones has expired and it's now only on *selected* handsets that seem to exclude the TyTN 2, also you can't get the sim-only and install the Three free Skype or Live Messenger on a non-Three phone+rom without some custom ROM hacking.....
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Thanks a lot for the information you provided. Damn it, I made a big mistake as i could've got the Nokia N95 with Skype and Live Msg + unlimited internet for £5 cheaper every month...!
Hi guys,
This is a solution for the Skype on Three network issue. I had placed it on another forum (http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?p=385677) and one guy has reported it working, but apparently, it might not work with WM5, only with WM6. Please give it a whirl and let me know if it works for you.
Feedback is great for both me as well as others
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Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum
(I have great and joyous news)
I believe that I have succeeded in getting the native Iskoot WM6 client for Skype to connect to the Three/3 service. I am still testing it and would appreciate your feedback.
Steps
a) Download and install the Iskoot client for Windows Mobile 6 . Try the direct link here (http://www.iskoot.com/pc_download/Wi...1.54_WMpro.CAB)
b) After installation, start the application, but DO NOT sign in. Instead exit it. The reason for doing this is to create the default registry entries for Iskoot.
c) Now start your favourite registry editor (I personally use Resco Registry Editor, but you should be able to use any. Please do not ask me how to use the registry editor. This is not the appropraite forum.)
d) Head for the following location in the registry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ISKOOT\SKYPE\DEVICE
e) Update all the following entries to the same value "http://mobile.three.co.uk/948" (do not include the "double quotes")
BackupHost
CallUrl
DefaultSkHost
Pushhost
f) Exit the registry editor of choice and start and log into Iskoot. This might take some time. It took me about five minutes.
It should now be configured to connect to the 3 Skype service. To cross-verify, check that the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ISKOOT\SKYPE\DEVICE\Cal lNumber has the value +447838333894 (the 3 Skype dial-out number). It should be automatically added by the software.
As I have mentioned earlier, I am still testing this. However, with this implementation, it should not use your included minutes, but the free Skype allocation. Please test the same and let us all know if that is the case or you have noticed that your inclusive minutes have been used up.
I do not know how to modify cabs. But if somebody can rebuild the original Iskoot cab with these settings built-in, that would be great.
I have noticed that the sound quality on this is considerably better as compared to the Skype Java client.
Legalese: The above is merely advisory and there is no warranty, implied or otherwise, for the same.
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Thanks for the information. I tried it on my Hermes and it worked great.
Unfortunately, when I tried the same thing on my Kaiser, all I ever get is "Currently unable to connect".
I can't see why there would be any difference between the two phones, but the Hermes never fails and the Kaiser never succeeds!
Any suggestions?
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"Currently unable to connect".
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thanks for the info but unfortunately i get the same error meesage as i am using !!
secret.simon said:
Hi guys,
This is a solution for the Skype on Three network issue. I had placed it on another forum (http://www.3g.co.uk/3GForum/showthread.php?p=385677) and one guy has reported it working, but apparently, it might not work with WM5, only with WM6. Please give it a whirl and let me know if it works for you.
Feedback is great for both me as well as others
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Annuntio vobis gaudium magnum
(I have great and joyous news)
I believe that I have succeeded in getting the native Iskoot WM6 client for Skype to connect to the Three/3 service. I am still testing it and would appreciate your feedback.
Steps
a) Download and install the Iskoot client for Windows Mobile 6 . Try the direct link here (http://www.iskoot.com/pc_download/Wi...1.54_WMpro.CAB)
b) After installation, start the application, but DO NOT sign in. Instead exit it. The reason for doing this is to create the default registry entries for Iskoot.
c) Now start your favourite registry editor (I personally use Resco Registry Editor, but you should be able to use any. Please do not ask me how to use the registry editor. This is not the appropraite forum.)
d) Head for the following location in the registry: HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ISKOOT\SKYPE\DEVICE
e) Update all the following entries to the same value "http://mobile.three.co.uk/948" (do not include the "double quotes")
BackupHost
CallUrl
DefaultSkHost
Pushhost
f) Exit the registry editor of choice and start and log into Iskoot. This might take some time. It took me about five minutes.
It should now be configured to connect to the 3 Skype service. To cross-verify, check that the registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ISKOOT\SKYPE\DEVICE\Cal lNumber has the value +447838333894 (the 3 Skype dial-out number). It should be automatically added by the software.
As I have mentioned earlier, I am still testing this. However, with this implementation, it should not use your included minutes, but the free Skype allocation. Please test the same and let us all know if that is the case or you have noticed that your inclusive minutes have been used up.
I do not know how to modify cabs. But if somebody can rebuild the original Iskoot cab with these settings built-in, that would be great.
I have noticed that the sound quality on this is considerably better as compared to the Skype Java client.
Legalese: The above is merely advisory and there is no warranty, implied or otherwise, for the same.
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The iskoot link is http://www.iskoot.com/pc_download/WindowsMobile/iSkootForSkype1.1.54_WMpro.CAB
How do you get the address http://mobile.three.co.uk/948? I am looking for the same thing for three italy, so I cannot use that url. I have Kaiser and a three skypephone, wich include 10 hours per day of free skype call, so I will love to use the iskoot software on Kaiser and lunch outside the windows the Amoi!
Thanks
Masy said:
thanks for the info but unfortunately i get the same error meesage as i am using !!
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For Windows Mobile 6.1, MS .net Framework 3.5 is required, otherwise, "Currently unable to connect" error might appear
SkypeOut is officially supported (if not, very soon) by 3UK,
http://www.skype.com/intl/en-gb/allfeatures/3skypephone/overseascalling/
with some restrictions (read the small print!)
I failed to get Skypein to work, however.
And Skypeout is a bit unstable at the moment, might be 3UK is upgrading their servers...
alex_time said:
How do you get the address http://mobile.three.co.uk/948? I am looking for the same thing for three italy, so I cannot use that url. I have Kaiser and a three skypephone, wich include 10 hours per day of free skype call, so I will love to use the iskoot software on Kaiser and lunch outside the windows the Amoi!
Thanks
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I think what some people did is to download a java version of the iskoot (for other non-WM phone) and decompiled the java class/jad file and find the URL string. I guess if you can somehow intercept the outgoing network traffic from a 3 customized iskoot client running on another phone (perhaps on a Symbian phone trying to communicate to the server via wifi, which wouldn't connect successfully I believe, but still let you), parse the network packet to find out its intended destination will do the trick too.
deityuk said:
I think what some people did is to download a java version of the iskoot (for other non-WM phone) and decompiled the java class/jad file and find the URL string. I guess if you can somehow intercept the outgoing network traffic from a 3 customized iskoot client running on another phone (perhaps on a Symbian phone trying to communicate to the server via wifi, which wouldn't connect successfully I believe, but still let you), parse the network packet to find out its intended destination will do the trick too.
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Thanks for the tip, but the problem is that the only phone with skype is the amoi 8512 (http://www.3skypephone.com/english/index.html have you ever seen it?) I do not have x-series with skype, but a specific offer wich works only with this phone. This phone does not have wifi, so I cannot sniff packet through network, and the iskoot client is not java, but specifically made for it (when I run it, the Java log does not apper), so I do not know how I could extract the url. The only thing I have done is to get its user agent to replace it on the Tytn II, the Amoi 8512 user agent is " [FONT="]Amoi 8512/R22.0 NF-Browser/3.3[/FONT]" without double quote, of course.
alex_time said:
Thanks for the tip, but the problem is that the only phone with skype is the amoi 8512 (http://www.3skypephone.com/english/index.html have you ever seen it?) I do not have x-series with skype, but a specific offer wich works only with this phone. This phone does not have wifi, so I cannot sniff packet through network, and the iskoot client is not java, but specifically made for it (when I run it, the Java log does not apper), so I do not know how I could extract the url. The only thing I have done is to get its user agent to replace it on the Tytn II, the Amoi 8512 user agent is " [FONT="]Amoi 8512/R22.0 NF-Browser/3.3[/FONT]" without double quote, of course.
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I was in your situation until a week ago when I found the 3 UK setting. It is so frustrating that I knew all it requires is a correct URL address yet I didn't know what it is!
What you may want to try is to first identify which X-series phone that 3 Italy support apart from the skypephone. And then change your Tytn II 's broswer agent string to one of those phone that use a JAVA iskoot client instead of a native client like Symbian client. Then use your phone browser to 3 ITA portal and try to download the iskoot (Skype) software. 3 ITA server should now think that you have a compatible phone so it will present you with the Java client. Once you go the .jar file, you can proceed to extract the URL from there...
I think people used SEW910I to get the 3 Australia client.
Try this for the Browser agent string:
SonyEricssonW910i/R1CA Browser/NetFront/3.4 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1
I tried the above suggestion myself to try to get the URL from 3 UK's client, but I can't remember why I stopped, and then later I found that the URL is already know on some other forums on the Internet...
Good luck!
deityuk said:
I was in your situation until a week ago when I found the 3 UK setting. It is so frustrating that I knew all it requires is a correct URL address yet I didn't know what it is!
What you may want to try is to first identify which X-series phone that 3 Italy support apart from the skypephone. And then change your Tytn II 's broswer agent string to one of those phone that use a JAVA iskoot client instead of a native client like Symbian client. Then use your phone browser to 3 ITA portal and try to download the iskoot (Skype) software. 3 ITA server should now think that you have a compatible phone so it will present you with the Java client. Once you go the .jar file, you can proceed to extract the URL from there...
I think people used SEW910I to get the 3 Australia client.
Try this for the Browser agent string:
SonyEricssonW910i/R1CA Browser/NetFront/3.4 Profile/MIDP-2.1 Configuration/CLDC-1.1
I tried the above suggestion myself to try to get the URL from 3 UK's client, but I can't remember why I stopped, and then later I found that the URL is already know on some other forums on the Internet...
Good luck!
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You are right, it is frustriating knowing I cannot use my Kaiser just because I do not know a simple url!!
I will have a look at this right now. Thanks for your help
I am trying to run a 3 (UK) MSN/Live Messenger on my official O2 WM6.1 Kaiser. (The reason for trying is that with 3 (UK) the operator, your MSN messages doesn't count towards your data traffic; also I would like to experiment its battery drain compare to other MSN clients).
If I just log in Planet 3 (UK) (the 3 portal site), it wouldn't let me download its Live messenger client as my phone is not a compatible one. I changed my user agent string to SEW910i and downloaded the .jad file for W910i. I then removed the certificate portions (the last 2 lines) in the .jad file so that it can install on my Kaiser. It works but sometime the display is not quite way, but more importantly, only vibrate alert is possible but setting to Loud or Soft alert would still result in vibration only. I then modified the .jad file again so that instead of referencing the mp3 files from the 3UK website, it point to the local version (which I downloaded and place in the same directory as the .jad and .jar files) as:
AlertToneContact: online.mp3
AlertToneMsg: newmsg.mp3
However, it still doesn't work :-(
Is there anything I have missed?
May be I should have used the N95's version? Has anyone tried that before? Are they different? And what would be the best version?
Thanks!
SMS push on 3 Live Messenger
Also, one of the feature of the 3 (UK) MSN messenger which I Have tried on my other symbian phone is that even if the client is closed (not minimized), it can still be re-activated/re-launched automatically when new MSN messenges arrive (by listening to special SMS messages form the operator (3 UK)), if one didn't choose to sign out form the MSN server.
I notice in the .jad file there is such a line:
MIDlet-Push-1: sms://:3716, ui.Main, *
Is this a Symbian's Java virtual machine feature? Or is it a general java virtual machine feature?
deityuk said:
I am trying to run a 3 (UK) MSN/Live Messenger on my official O2 WM6.1 Kaiser. (The reason for trying is that with 3 (UK) the operator, your MSN messages doesn't count towards your data traffic; also I would like to experiment its battery drain compare to other MSN clients).
If I just log in Planet 3 (UK) (the 3 portal site), it wouldn't let me download its Live messenger client as my phone is not a compatible one. I changed my user agent string to SEW910i and downloaded the .jad file for W910i. I then removed the certificate portions (the last 2 lines) in the .jad file so that it can install on my Kaiser. It works but sometime the display is not quite way, but more importantly, only vibrate alert is possible but setting to Loud or Soft alert would still result in vibration only. I then modified the .jad file again so that instead of referencing the mp3 files from the 3UK website, it point to the local version (which I downloaded and place in the same directory as the .jad and .jar files) as:
AlertToneContact: online.mp3
AlertToneMsg: newmsg.mp3
However, it still doesn't work :-(
Is there anything I have missed?
May be I should have used the N95's version? Has anyone tried that before? Are they different? And what would be the best version?
Thanks!
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can i have the oridginal file you had?
Any progress on this?
Im trying to get it to work in Australia, but the 3 MSN java app is running but i cant see it at all.
I've tried the same app and found it very flaky
I have another slight problem, can I ask you to check - I can only login to MSN on 3 if I have a 3g connection.
Where we live the 3g connection is flaky and it refuses to login to MSN on GPRS :-(
Skype wise it works fine (they offer free skype-skype too) don't use their java client, look on this site for instructions how to configure the PPC / Wmobile iSkoot Client :0 tested and it's not used any data allowance.
Thanks,
I already have skoot running using my skype call allowance.
My Kaiser already has Live Messenger, but not the unlimited one.
Was trying to get it running as a pet project.
I have just switched to Three UK PAYG and have been searching around a bit. I am running a WM6.1 ROM on a Hermes.
So far I have managed to:
1) Use HTC Connection Wizard (downloaded via CRC's Device Update) to set up the internet and MMS settings.
2) Run the 'Identify as N95 (WM6.1).cab' (thanks to sub69 in this thread. 6.0 and 6.5 versions can also be found there.)
This allows me to access the My3 pages at http://mobile.three.co.uk/hb/HutchKey
3) Install the 3 Live Messenger Java client. I am using the version 4.5, not the latest V5. Credits for modifying this go to therafiman at MoDaCo.
This is working with Esmertec Jbed, and is working for free as it is meant to.
'Windows_Live Messenger.zip' contains the .jad and .jar files, and only seems to work if both are copied to the phone and the .jad file is run.
The Java client is far inferior to the normal Windows Mobile Live client, but the normal client is not free to run. Additionally I have been unable to log on using the normal client over 3g. If I log on while connected to activesync or wifi then I can switch to 3g and keep it running, but this will be charging you.
I haven't looked at skype yet, because no one I regularly call uses it. However I have found these instructions which look promising despite the dodgy numbering system:
1) First you need to download the Iskoot version of Skype from www.iskoot.com. You'll need to enter your name & mobile number and select your phone type.
2) Once downloaded, install ISkoot on your windows mobile
3) Start up Iskoot but don't log in yet.
4) Exit Iskoot
3) Use a registry editor to change the following keys under HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ISKOOT\SKYPE\DEVICE to "http://mobile.three.co.uk/948"
BackupHost
CallUrl
DefaultSkHost
Pushhost (only if it exists)
4) Exit the registry editor and start Iskoot again. This time log in (mine logged in immediately - some people say their first log-in takes a few minutes).
5) That's it!. You can verify if things have worked by examining registry key HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\ISKOOT\SKYPE\DEVICE\Cal lNumber. If ok, this should have been updated to either "123" on your first log-in, then to a number beginning +44783833...
Once you've made a few skype calls you should see that your credit / call-time balance / data allowance does NOT decrease.
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(instructions from Shaun L at www.3g.co.uk
If anyone has any luck getting the V5 Java Live Messenger client running on windows mobile then please post, or even better would be configuring the normal live client to use 3's free service.
EDIT
I'm attaching the WLM V5 .jad and .jar files.
These are unmodified, and downloaded using the N95 user agent in the previous post. Maybe someone knows what they are doing to modify the .jad and get it working.
jez83uk said:
I have just switched to Three UK PAYG and have been searching around a bit. I am running a WM6.1 ROM on a Hermes.
So far I have managed to:
1) Use HTC Connection Wizard (downloaded via CRC's Device Update) to set up the internet and MMS settings.
2) Run the 'Identify as N95 (WM6.1).cab' (thanks to sub69 in this thread. 6.0 and 6.5 versions can also be found there.)
This allows me to access the My3 pages at http://mobile.three.co.uk/hb/HutchKey
3) Install the 3 Live Messenger Java client. I am using the version 4.5, not the latest V5. Credits for modifying this go to therafiman at MoDaCo.
This is working with Esmertec Jbed, and is working for free as it is meant to.
'Windows_Live Messenger.zip' contains the .jad and .jar files, and only seems to work if both are copied to the phone and the .jad file is run.
The Java client is far inferior to the normal Windows Mobile Live client, but the normal client is not free to run. Additionally I have been unable to log on using the normal client over 3g. If I log on while connected to activesync or wifi then I can switch to 3g and keep it running, but this will be charging you.
I haven't looked at skype yet, because no one I regularly call uses it. However I have found these instructions which look promising despite the dodgy numbering system:
(instructions from Shaun L at www.3g.co.uk
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which version of Esmertec Jbed is it working on with kaiser as there's a lot of different versions and i dont no which is compatible with my kaiser also installed it on my standard java application sines in but have to keep allowing things cant remember now but if i click bottom option keeps coming up again and again i click top option don't come back but either way i get 3 contacts or 5 online no more when i no there a lot more
cheers to any replies
On my Hermes I'm using Jbed Build ID: 20080610.2.1 downloaded from CRC's Device Update.
jez83uk said:
On my Hermes I'm using Jbed Build ID: 20080610.2.1 downloaded from CRC's Device Update.
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http //xdaonthree . tk
A website dedicated to all the above Xda Developers.
Thanks guys. Made my year!
Not allowed to post URLs as a newbie so will have to join the gap in the URL yourselves ;-)
foxtrotyankee
foxtrotyankee said:
http //xdaonthree . tk
A website dedicated to all the above Xda Developers.
Thanks guys. Made my year!
Not allowed to post URLs as a newbie so will have to join the gap in the URL yourselves ;-)
foxtrotyankee
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Thanks for taking the time to put this together. Hopefully it will help others in the future.
Heres a direct link for people if needed: http://xdaonthree.tk/
Nice idea
Really wish I could get hold of the three apps for Android now
damianiw said:
Nice idea
Really wish I could get hold of the three apps for Android now
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Is it the Iskoot for Android your after?
if so: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538306
My post has an Alpha/Beta that needs testing for Android.
upon request it was re-instated, there is an official version out there but i didnt get it to work properly, so i grabbed the original Iskoot for Android (non 3 version) and modified it slightly to incorporate the 3 uk settings
JavaAuthorizer
An excellent application if you don’t want to keep saying “Yes, allow NET access”
Thanks to the people who provided this.
http:// my-xda.blogspot.com/2009/10/change-untrusted-java-applications-on.html
Hi, can I somehow set ebuddy to the same settings and use it for free like windows live on 3 network?
PLEASE NOTE, THIS THREAD HAS BEEN TEMPORARILY ABANDONED :-(
due to Iskoot stopping their "Iskoot for Skype" and the Three network starting to use a new client
the versions in this post DO NOT WORK, this thread will remain abandoned till i can find someone with a working Windows
Mobile version of the Skype for 3.
See you round the forums ;-)
ORIGINAL THREAD:
Hi,
Originally i created a small regmod cab which automatically puts the 3 UK Iskoot settings in so you dont have to bother, Now I have created a full installer cab which will install both Iskoot and the Regmod together.
This means no more faffing about installing the Iskoot and the Regmod, its all done for you in one nice CAB!
This little installer saves me a bit of time as I tend to update my ROM quite a lot, so it saves the need for installing a regedit program and manually entering/copying the values into the registry.
Additional:
I do tend to use the Iskoot app quite a lot, infact its the main form of communication between me and my wife, so if you have any issues just post and i'll do my best to replicate the problem and solve it.
Full installer instructions
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1. make sure you have .NET CF 2 or higher installed, and the Time is correct.
2. Install the Iskoot for 3 installer CAB (Link at bottom of post "iSkootfor3UK-DANH2009.zip")
3. Sign in
4. Use Iskoot
Regmod Installation:
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1. install all prerequisites -> Iskoot, .NET CF 2 (or higher)
2. Run iskoot and accept all the T&C's
3. Exit ISkoot
4. Run Cab file, use all defaults upon installation.
5. Run Iskoot and log on
Android Install
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Note: reposted my APK due to request =)
Warning... it is extreme beta, and I have stopped working on this for the moment.
APK is available at bottom of this post as an attachment.
also i didnt realise that the original 3 Iskoot APK was already available on here.
Link can be found here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=4959862&postcount=1
Technical Gore (regmod):
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This CAB file makes the following modifications to the registry:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Software\iSkoot\Skype\Device]
"BaseUrl"="https://skype340.three.co.uk"
"UpdateFrequency"="1200"
"PushHost"="http://skype340.three.co.uk:8880"
"SkypeOutEnabled"="1"
"DefaultSkHost"="http://mobile.three.co.uk/948"
"CallUrl"="http://mobile.three.co.uk/948"
"BackupHost"="http://mobile.three.co.uk/948"
"WLanPassword"="wifidemo2"
"WLanUserName"="wifidemo2"
"WlanServer"="dev10.iskoot.com"
"VersionRestrict"="N"
"IsPushEnabled"="N"
"ChatMsgHistorySize"="8"
"ChatMsgOldHour"="2"
"SoundFile"="\\Windows\\online.wav"
"Language"="EN"
"DriverName"="PocketPC"
"MaxChatSize"="10"
"MaxChatSession"="10"
"PropertyFilePath"="\\IskootIni.txt"
"ClientVersion"="1.1.54"
You may notice that a few entries are missing, most are unneeded at the point of install and connection, the needed ones will automatically be picked up upon connection to ISkoot.
Bugs Regmod:
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on installer it asks for a path (device/card), i thought id disabled the choice but its still there.
upon installation the installer reports that the cab file wasnt made for the phone, im looking into how to get rid of this.
Bugs for Full installer:
teeny tiny issue - no alert sound is set for incoming messages.
to fix go to sounds & notifications -> notifications and give ISkoot something to play!
I'll correct this asap.
Revision information Regmod:
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V0.1
Installation of Regmod stopped skype functioning due to the "firsttime" entry being filled.
v0.2
working, and tested quite a lot.
ommited callnumber as this is picked up from network.
Revision information Full Installer:
v1.0 (possible final if all is well and no bugs are found)
Added various registry links, got installer to copy regmod into my docs incase you need it again.
managed to overcome bug which iskoot crashed on the full installer when receiving calls.
Troubleshooting:
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Unable to connect issues:
1. Time/Date incorrect
1A. Correct your time (start -> Settings -> Clocks and Alarms)
2. .Net compact Framework not installed
2A. Install .NET Compact Framework (google search .net CF and you should find the installer)
Reliability mod:
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I have found that if you set the data connection to "always on" it seems to make messaging more reliable.
You can do this by getting Kaisertweak and enabling "Always on: 3 internet"
If there are any other issues just post.
If you like my work and want to buy me a whiskey Click Here
Mirror for Full installer: Iskoot for 3 uk (4shared link)
Thanks for this, I too flash regularly and left iskoot on the shelf because of it
Only annoyance I find is that where I live 3g signal is poor and it doesn't seem to connect over GPRS (Windows Live Mobile has the same problem - the java free on 3 version & official .cab windows live mobile one!)
I guess they block some traffic over gprs
Anyway - this is a keeper thanks
Thanks for this, I too flash regularly and left iskoot on the shelf because of it
Only annoyance I find is that where I live 3g signal is poor and it doesn't seem to connect over GPRS (Windows Live Mobile has the same problem - the java free on 3 version & official .cab windows live mobile one!)
I guess they block some traffic over gprs
Anyway - this is a keeper thanks
Danh2009 said:
Hi,
Ive created a small easy to use CAB file which Automates the input of the neccessary Registry modifications for using ISkoot for Skype on the "3" Uk network.
This little installer saves me a bit of time as i tend to update my ROM quite a lot, so it saves the need for installing a regedit program and manually entering/copying the values into the registry.
Installation:
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1. install all prerequisites -> Iskoot, .NET CF 2 (or higher)
2. Run iskoot and accept all the T&C's
3. Exit ISkoot
4. Run Cab file, use all defaults upon installation.
5. Run Iskoot and log on
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If there are any issues just post.
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I have installed as described but during login iskoot shows a message "CURRENTLY UNABLE TO CONNECT". It was running ok before i hard reset. Btw I have .net CF 3.7 pre Installed with my modified rom. Please help........
EDIT: i removed i skoot, reinstalled .net cf 3.7 as i cant install 3.5. reinstalled iskoot and ur cab. but no luck
a few checks first:
Did you run Iskoot and accept all the terms and conditions before installing the cab?
also, are you using iskoot in the UK?
I have no problem with the installer, I just used it last night and it worked fine.
may be worth while using the Netcfg app to force iskoot to use net CF 2.0 as Ive never properly tested with 3.7, it seemed to work last time I used a cooked rom with 3.7.
Danh2009 said:
a few checks first:
Did you run Iskoot and accept all the terms and conditions before installing the cab?
also, are you using iskoot in the UK?
I have no problem with the installer, I just used it last night and it worked fine.
may be worth while using the Netcfg app to force iskoot to use net CF 2.0 as Ive never properly tested with 3.7, it seemed to work last time I used a cooked rom with 3.7.
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I also used with same cooked rom last time, WORKED PERFECT!!! yes, I accepted all terms and conditions first and before login i exit iskoot and i am using UK 3 network. but after this hard reset this issues came up...
I also can not downgrade to 2.0 or 3.5
SCREWED!!!
EDIT: Just updated time and date and started working
Dont really know whether it this the main reason!!!!! STRANGE!!
tapash said:
I also used with same cooked rom last time, WORKED PERFECT!!! yes, I accepted all terms and conditions first and before login i exit iskoot and i am using UK 3 network. but after this hard reset this issues came up...
I also can not downgrade to 2.0 or 3.5
SCREWED!!!
EDIT: Just updated time and date and started working
Dont really know whether it this the main reason!!!!! STRANGE!!
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LOL, that old chestnut... I didnt even consider the time and date!!
it seems ISKOOT implants the time/date into the registry on first run, and I think it pulls it from the server, so if your time/date didnt closely match the server's it would throw a paddy.
this was one of the issues I was up against when I created the CAB, if I set the "firstrun" entry to a date it would only work for a day or so then it wouldnt connect or send messages properly.
when setting a date in there it meant I could run the cab file without prior opening of ISKOOT (Thus getting rid of step 2) but I hit the above issues!
Maybe I should update my first post to:
1. check time and date are correct!
Well done on sorting it.
hi
ihave instaled iskoot and when i went on my programe i could not find the program any help pleaseeeeeeeee
iSkoot
iSkoot works fine for me,
Install iSkoot, launch once, no need to login, exit (make sure it's not running in the background) then use the regmod to apply Three UK settings
Files I used attached
Using PAYG UK 3 Sim w/ Kaiser and iSkoot
Thanks Danh2009 for your great cab, it was very useful and extremely easy to install!
After some initial head scratching, the advice posted on changing the first run date also did the trick to get me logged in without any 'unable to connect' errors.
The only issue I'm finding is when I attempt to skypeout to a UK number I get the notification 'Call Failure - You can only make calls to numbers abroad'. The test skype line and presumably non UK number are fine.
Has anyone else experienced this issue?
My thoughts are that it is perhaps related to the automatically assigned +447838... 'callnumber' as this is the only thing that might be variable between difference users who have also used this registery mod cab. Perhaps someone who is able to make skypeout uk calls could let me know their 'callnumber' (mine is +44783838333870) but other posts have suggested other numbers differing on the last digit.
Unfortunately all UK numbers are blocked by 3, they would be at a loss if everyone topped up their skype to make phonecalls and not their mobile!
there is no workaround that I know of.
If there was a workaround you wouldn't be calling the free 3 iskoot callnumber and therefore would get charged.
hope that helps!
Thanks for the clarification Danh2009! The documentation on the 3 website was ambiguous or absent and my brain had filled in the blanks with colourful brainfluff.
So I guess (not knocking it, still great!) this limits me to making up to 4000 mins of calls per month using iskoot to skype contacts only (skype to skype as advertised).
If I want to use skypeout or skype in then I download the 'official' skype WM program, which will then let me use these facilities, but this will use up any data allowance I have.
Help on explaining how to update the time and date, after installing iskoot, please??
damianiw said:
iSkoot works fine for me,
Install iSkoot, launch once, no need to login, exit (make sure it's not running in the background) then use the regmod to apply Three UK settings
Files I used attached
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Hello there,
sorry i have installed the iskoot and the regmond .cab file as you've explained but i am also getting the unable to connect message...i've read the post that says that what is needed is to update the date and time...can anyone, please explain how to do it...step by step...thanks
regards,
.NET CF Installed?
jamapalu said:
Hello there,
sorry i have installed the iskoot and the regmond .cab file as you've explained but i am also getting the unable to connect message...i've read the post that says that what is needed is to update the date and time...can anyone, please explain how to do it...step by step...thanks
regards,
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Is your phone set to the current date and time?
if it is you shouldnt have a problem, the only other thing i can think of is if you havent got .NET Compact Framework 2.0 or higher (i think 3.5 is the standard at the moment).
also:
to change the time go to start-> settings -> clocks and alarms and set the time and timezone there.
Hope that helps
now working!!!
Hey,
thanks for your reply.
The clock and date are set to the current time and location...but it still give me the error message...
I installed .net cf 3.5 but it still doesn't work...
then i tried the registry editor and found there the 'first time' field and erased it....tried again and ....voila!!! skype working...hope that continues to work...
thanks a lot for your help for your precious posts.
best regards,
spoke too soon...
jamapalu said:
Hey,
thanks for your reply.
The clock and date are set to the current time and location...but it still give me the error message...
I installed .net cf 3.5 but it still doesn't work...
then i tried the registry editor and found there the 'first time' field and erased it....tried again and ....voila!!! skype working...hope that continues to work...
thanks a lot for your help for your precious posts.
best regards,
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made a skype call to a skype contact and it charged me 20p which is the network charge to call another network...any reason for that?
thanks,
jamapalu said:
made a skype call to a skype contact and it charged me 20p which is the network charge to call another network...any reason for that?
thanks,
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The only reason I can think for it to charge you is if you had the Callurl wrong or even the callnumber wrong. But if they were wrong then Iskoot shouldnt work, either that or you have skype installed instead of Iskoot.
my settings are:
Callnumber +447838333880
Callurl http://mobile.three.co.uk/948 (as set by Regmod cab)
Check out post #9 by Damianiw, he has attached the latest Iskoot Cab, it may be worth while reinstalling Iskoot and re-installing my Cab.
Good luck
iskoot working!!!
Hey man...you're a star!
my skype is finally working with my diamond...thanks a million for the help Danh2009...i appreciate it a lot!
Cheers
Iskoot on TPC 28002 stock rom issue found?
Just a brief update which im wondering if anyone else is having this issue.
when using Iskoot on TPC's 28002 stocklike and Ultimate rom i think iv found an issue.
when typing a message it tries to predict the next word and starts adding uppercase characters randomly into the message!
a biT liKe thIS!
The issues do not exist when doing a text message or an email.
ive tried:
Changing .net versions via NetCfg (3.5, 2, and default)
reinstalling iskoot, & regmod
flashing radio, and rom (hence stocklike and ultimate comment above)
checked regional settings
anyone else think of anything?
EDIT: Seems to be an issue with TPC's ROM as he has confirmed there are issues with bad files.
Apologies if this is classed as a *Bump*
BUT:
New version is up, full installer.
Read the first post for more information.
-Dan