Hello,
I now own my Kaiser for about one year (or a little less). But I'm still not satisfied about the overall speed of the device. I'm not talking about reading videos or playing games, just about "normal" use of the Kaiser.
For exemple, opening the HTC phone application (dial pad) takes around 3 seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !
Another exemple is going to landscape mode which takes 4 seconds ! And when it is in landscape, my Kaiser is like freezed for about 2 other seconds before I can use it.
A 3rd exemple, when answering calls: my Kaiser rings, I press the green button to answer, but it takes around 2-3 seconds before it does really answer. In the mean time, I sometimes loose my call, and this is really frustrating again !
I know I'm only talking about seconds, but I use my Kaiser a lot in a day, and these seconds become minutes ! And when I need to use my Kaiser quickly, these seconds appear much longer than they really are.
My ROM is the original HTC 6.1 ROM. My Kaiser is as light as possible (no Manilla 2D !), but it does not seem to be enough for my Kaiser to be fast.
I tried some cooked ROMS, but from what I experienced the HTC 6.1 is the faster. I also tweaked my Kaiser with all the informations I could find on this great forum (and KaiserTweak)
I would really enjoy an overclocker utility but it does not exist.
So, about you, are you satisfied with your Kaiser speed ?
Isn't there days where you would throw it against a wall because of these anoying lags ?
Thanks !
If this damn thing eats another microSD card I AM going to throw it against the wall. I'm getting tired of loosing my crap and having to re-do everything.
what about the speed of your ka
iser : is it ok for you ?
No complaints about the "speedyness" of the tilt after flashing to a good ROM. If another one fails I'm sending it back and demanding an upgrade to a Fuze tho.
i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?
Dear,
Same problems as yours... Using same rom from HTC !
Very slow phone for each task i need
Boring phone when hang-up or dialing, boring when using tt6 and now tt7 (too slow when driving in little streets, and sometimes truncating voices messages), and more generally, very very slow (and i do not speak about camera).
Sure, this version is really a big bug
Comparing to other kind of phones, even cheaper models runs better (camera better and faster, gps fix faster, gps available even in flight mode.
Usually, when opening keyboard, applications hangs due to the screen rotation, and become available a long time after
Definitively, a real diseapointing device.
I'm now waiting for the renewal of my phone contract to change for something better (sure that is not difficult to find)
Regards,
Laurent
I highly recommend flashing a custom rom.
The rom chef's have done a fantastic job tweaking them to run much faster than the stock roms. Try on and you'll never look back.
I'm currently using the Nov 15'th Hyperdragon Rom and I have virtually no complaints about the speed of the rom for day to day activities. M2D runs very smoothly and is much more friendly to your fingers than any of the stock roms I've used.
aagil001 said:
i haven't had mine for very long but I got a little over-excited in the first few weeks and installed anything i could get my hands on. i just did a hard reset, followed by a soft reset to remove the bloatware, and i've noticed that my phone is a lot faster.
your problems do sound infuriating, have you tried backing up your data and wiping the slate clean?
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Thanks a lot ! i did the hard reset followed by the soft reset , then I restored my data : now my Kaiser goes faster ! thanks again !
I have the same issue, not that the kaiser is really slow, but when I compare it with a Wizard (both have custom roms) the Wizard does things a lot faster, like opening start menu, scrolling isn't laggy, change tabs is fast. No matter what rom I use on my kaiser, I can't get to the use speed of the Wizard. Maybe it is because I install programs on the SD instead of the phone itself?
Nothing to Compare to
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will
wasilvers said:
I don't have anything to really compare to, but my Kaiser - Bloatware removed - seems to work well. My only real complaint is that ending a call with the touchscreen takes a few seconds, but the red end key ends it pretty quick. If there is a delay on some things, it is far outweighed by the functionality I feel I'm getting from my tilt. I use it as primary pc - email, web, movies, word, excel, etc..
I tell people it is a mini computer with a phone added on as an afterthought. That is why with comes with such a crappy phone interface. I downloaded a new skin and it looks and works excellent.
Will
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Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.
I noticed a marked improvement since I use some of the SKTools utilities like:
- Optimize! http://s-k-tools.com/index.html?sktools/m_feat.html
- FreeUP RAM Service http://s-k-tools.com/?m_freeuprams.html
- Registry optimization http://s-k-tools.com/?/sktools/m_regopt.html
It has many other features and you can download a trial. It's really worth a try.
dear all,
how can you say that the kaiser isnot slow ?
I use PIE to read this forum, this thread takes 30 to 40 sec to load for 470 kB, while it takes few seconds to dowload bigger files !
I only use pie,tt7 and outlook sync for contacts and appointments.
I also tested 3 roms and tried to tweak some settings, without getting a normal speed.
kaiser is definitively a slow computer with a phone.
basic phones are more responsives than kaiser on many bundled applications.
I do think that kaiser has a lake of something... Maybe some drivers are missing, because if you look at the internal chipset used inside the kaiser, it should very very more powerfull
Call ending speed can be instant. Use Kaiser Tweak / Advanced Config tool to change this.
Please enlighten me, because I hate this. I have to push the button multiples times to disconnect. I have SK Tools as well. It has many good features, unfortunately some of the things it recommends tweaking I have idea what those things are for. I need the cheat sheet for invalid registry entries and values.
I do experience what you describe and I've tried many different ROMs, right now I'm using Garmin.Dk 8 without Manila2d and all the "speed fixes" available.
It's just like that, it has Windows...
But on the other hand, I like that, because it makes it very customizable.
Depends on what you value most.
dizzy33 said:
Hello,
seconds. Then, if I dial a number quickly, it "forget" some buttons I pushed. I need to dial my number slowly for the phone to take each button I push ... This is very frustrating !Thanks !
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I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.
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I had the same issue with dialing numbers. It pissed me off so much I bought an iPhone. I don't have issues with dialing numbers now. I really miss running custom ROMs though.
The iPhone has a lot of other issues, I put up with them because the web browsing experience is better and I can dial without loosing numbers. I wish HTC would get it together, they are very close... I tried a Sprint HTC Touch Pro for a couple of days and couldn't get used to the missing dpad.
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And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?
dear Spaul,
Windows is not the problem... Other htc phones have Windows and are fast. i.e. TYTN I is faster !
Problem is software, maybe drivers or hardware layer
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And you just hang around the Kaiser forum with your iPhone 'cause you miss us?
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He has to keep up because he realizes the other 99% of the WM functionality is missing on his new phone and he'll want to come back.
Same thing here
Yeah I experience exactly the same things with mine. I'm not going out the custom ROM path, since it's a company phone. After having tried all sorts of things, I've kind of just accepted its slowness.
But one thing is for sure. After using first the s710, and the the tytn-ii, I'm 95% sure that my next phone is not going to be a HTC, unless I see some very convincing real life demo of the device.
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Hi all,
First post here for me Got my TyTN II a few days ago and I'm loving it. It's such a nice phone and has a great build quality.
The only big thing that I find disappointing is the speed of the device. My previous phone was an HTC Wizard and my TyTN II is supposed to be literally double the speed of it, but there's no way it feels like that. In fact the Wizard, when overclocked with BatteryStatus to about 260Mhz) seems faster than this new beast (at times).
The things I particularly notice the slow speed with are...
- opening the keyboard (switching from portrait to landscape mode seems to take 2-3 times as long as with the Wizard)
- navigating (scrolling) through the list of Programs just seems sluggish compared to my [overclocked] Wizard
Another peculiar thing I've noticed is the speed of the "view finder" in the camera. It seems sluggish to the EXTREME, almost like a "night mode" is permanently on! I've noticed that sometimes putting the device in to standby and waking it back up gets the view finder running at "full speed" (what I would say looks like 25-30 fps).
Anyone got a clue what I'm talking about?
Dave
Did you add any applications (which may not be 100% compatible) after getting the machine? I had a Wizard too and am waiting for the TyTN II to come, but with the Wizard certain applications slowed the phone down much!
Regards,
Nika.
Well yeah, I've loaded it with a ton of rubbish now but in all honesty I noticed the slow down when I first took the machine out of the box.
The camera preview/view finder is particularly puzzling!
I've just put BatteryStatus on (a) to see if the CPU is constantly working and (b) with the hope to overclock it a little. I've just noticed that it doesn't support the TyTYN II processor tho so that's out of the window!
Once a new cooked and "polished" ROM comes out for your Kaiser, it will work faster. Almost every first official ROM is buggy and sluggish. it's not the hardware, it's the software.
One reason why I don't buy a device on it's first release.
About the camera preview/view finder slowness, it is due to not enough light in the room.
I was puzzled also. I tought I got faulty device.
Try to use it outdoor, it is very good when it has enough light.
Here is the discussion:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=328628
UncleJimbo said:
Well yeah, I've loaded it with a ton of rubbish now but in all honesty I noticed the slow down when I first took the machine out of the box.
The camera preview/view finder is particularly puzzling!
I've just put BatteryStatus on (a) to see if the CPU is constantly working and (b) with the hope to overclock it a little. I've just noticed that it doesn't support the TyTYN II processor tho so that's out of the window!
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Hi all,
First post here for me Got my TyTN II a few days ago and I'm loving it. It's such a nice phone and has a great build quality.
The only big thing that I find disappointing is the speed of the device. My previous phone was an HTC Wizard and my TyTN II is supposed to be literally double the speed of it, but there's no way it feels like that. In fact the Wizard, when overclocked with BatteryStatus to about 260Mhz) seems faster than this new beast (at times).
The things I particularly notice the slow speed with are...
- opening the keyboard (switching from portrait to landscape mode seems to take 2-3 times as long as with the Wizard)
- navigating (scrolling) through the list of Programs just seems sluggish compared to my [overclocked] Wizard
Another peculiar thing I've noticed is the speed of the "view finder" in the camera. It seems sluggish to the EXTREME, almost like a "night mode" is permanently on! I've noticed that sometimes putting the device in to standby and waking it back up gets the view finder running at "full speed" (what I would say looks like 25-30 fps).
Anyone got a clue what I'm talking about?
Dave
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Well, this surprises me. Mine is very fast and in particular for those things you mention!! Screen orientation for example is virtually instantaneous (maybe 1 to 2 seconds compared with TyTn that could take 5 to 20 seconds) and scrolling (with the exception of PIE) is smooth and fast. From standby by to on is less than a second. Compared with the TyTn the camera on 2mg is much faster as well.
Not sure where that leaves us then, if you say it was like that out of the box. That does not sound like it's something you have loaded, but might be worth re-checking that with a hard reset.
I notice a suggestion above that a new ROM might be faster. I really question that because as I say my ROM (presumably the same as yours) is very fast and the single most impressive thing about the device!
In your situation - I would seriously consider a hard reset to be sure it was a good installation. If problems persist, I would be tempted to look at a replacement as that slowness is not normal.
Mike
DaVince said:
Once a new cooked and "polished" ROM comes out for your Kaiser, it will work faster. Almost every first official ROM is buggy and sluggish. it's not the hardware, it's the software.
One reason why I don't buy a device on it's first release.
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That was certainly true with the TyTn, but my Kaiser (unbranded) is superbly fast. Virtually instant switch on screen rotation scrolling (except PIE), so I'm not at all convinced this is the problem in this case.
Mike
Hi
Main reason for making a device slow is running apps from the memory card. Especially if they are there in the background. Make sure that everything on your today screen and everything that runs more often is on the main memory. Storage card is good for instlations of everything you use and then close (e.g. SatNav, Camera apps etc.)
Kaiser is running extremly faster than anything else.
RonenB said:
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Main reason for making a device slow is running apps from the memory card. Especially if they are there in the background. Make sure that everything on your today screen and everything that runs more often is on the main memory. Storage card is good for instlations of everything you use and then close (e.g. SatNav, Camera apps etc.)
Kaiser is running extremly faster than anything else.
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GOOD point! Not sure if the OP does this automatically as we all should, it's easy to overlook the obvious sometimes!
Mike
same experience
Hi - I too am having the same problems described above regarding the slowness. I'm using the default HTC installed rom (1.56.405.5).
Were you able to solve the slowness issue? If so, how?
Thanks.
I'm having an odd slowdown issue. Everything runs incredibly fast pretty much 90% of the time except when I'm syncing. Everything on the device slows to a crawl and it takes forever for activesync to finish its business. This occurs both when I'm syncing via the USB cable and when I'm doing it via bluetooth. Any ideas?
Bellfazar, the exact same thing happens to me too... I'm using Vista btw.
Plus i have a serious slowdown after softreset (so maybe it's software related, don't have time for hardreset), but after a minute or so, its fast again
darkilici said:
Bellfazar, the exact same thing happens to me too... I'm using Vista btw.
Plus i have a serious slowdown after softreset (so maybe it's software related, don't have time for hardreset), but after a minute or so, its fast again
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After a soft reset, the phone has to load everything in memory for the first time.. So accessing the Programs window or the start menu the first time takes a while. Accessing it for the second time, everthing is already loaded into memory and fast again...
Is there not a powertool for WM6 which can help us disabling stuff?
You can use Startup Manager by Baniaczek to disable items that start at warm reboot. Or remove them manually from the WINDOWS\Startup folder
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=262476
And use HTC Task Manager to kill running applications and/or close them when closing an app instead of minimising it...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=330498
sometimes since the new kaiser tweak version i can see (batterystatus) that my processor keeps running at 100%. everything slows down. even a soft reset does not help. when i soft reset without my storage card everything is fine but as soon as i insert the card 100%. man this sucks.
reihen said:
sometimes since the new kaiser tweak version i can see (batterystatus) that my processor keeps running at 100%. everything slows down. even a soft reset does not help. when i soft reset without my storage card everything is fine but as soon as i insert the card 100%. man this sucks.
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Yeah, I can imagine! Especially when it seems you're the only one (or at least the first that complains). I don't mind trying to help you, but you'll have to answer some questions first:
1. What KaiserTweak.exe (time/date of file) and KaiserTweak.xml (time/date of file, or name of zip-file you downloaded) versions did you load?
2. What tweaks did you use after implementing the new version?
Regards,
Nika.
i never said it was the kaiser tweak nor do i think thats the problem. i restored to a backup from a week before and this still (sometimes happens). so you got me. When i figure this out i will let you know.
UncleJimbo said:
Hi all,
First post here for me Got my TyTN II a few days ago and I'm loving it. It's such a nice phone and has a great build quality.
The only big thing that I find disappointing is the speed of the device. My previous phone was an HTC Wizard and my TyTN II is supposed to be literally double the speed of it, but there's no way it feels like that. In fact the Wizard, when overclocked with BatteryStatus to about 260Mhz) seems faster than this new beast (at times).
The things I particularly notice the slow speed with are...
- opening the keyboard (switching from portrait to landscape mode seems to take 2-3 times as long as with the Wizard)
- navigating (scrolling) through the list of Programs just seems sluggish compared to my [overclocked] Wizard
Another peculiar thing I've noticed is the speed of the "view finder" in the camera. It seems sluggish to the EXTREME, almost like a "night mode" is permanently on! I've noticed that sometimes putting the device in to standby and waking it back up gets the view finder running at "full speed" (what I would say looks like 25-30 fps).
Anyone got a clue what I'm talking about?
Dave
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Try Q-Mobile 1.11 it is the fastest ROM I have ever used.
Hi.
I've had my Vario III for 2 months now, and I am not wholly satisfied with it. One of the main bug-bearers for me is that when I am texting, the phone normally takes a second or two to display the letters on screen. Because of this slowness, it sometimes struggles to pick up the odd letter, which means I have to scroll through the screen again and type again. This is frustrating, as it is now nearly impossible for me to send a quick text. I never had this problem on the original Vario.
At first I thought it might be because I have too many things loaded at once, but even when no programs are running it continues to lag.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
wellsy13 said:
Hi.
I've had my Vario III for 2 months now, and I am not wholly satisfied with it. One of the main bug-bearers for me is that when I am texting, the phone normally takes a second or two to display the letters on screen. Because of this slowness, it sometimes struggles to pick up the odd letter, which means I have to scroll through the screen again and type again. This is frustrating, as it is now nearly impossible for me to send a quick text. I never had this problem on the original Vario.
At first I thought it might be because I have too many things loaded at once, but even when no programs are running it continues to lag.
Is anyone else experiencing this problem?
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yes there is a slight lag. Probably more on the stock roms then for example Dutty's rom i am using its not much. The kaiser unfortunately suffers from some graphics issues which causes these things. We are all hoping that this will be fixed sometime in the near future.
I would recommend that you should try flashing one of the cooked roms and see how that works for you.
What do you mean by "flashing one of the cooked roms?"
(Sorry, I'm not very good with PDAs)
wellsy13 said:
What do you mean by "flashing one of the cooked roms?"
(Sorry, I'm not very good with PDAs)
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have a look at this http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Kaiser
you will learn what i am referring to.
What's weird is I have been reading these threads about slow text display for a while on several different occassions. The weird part is...I don't have this issue on my Kaiser and I do a lot of texting. At first, I wondered if it was because I was inputting slower than others...I don't think that is it as I have had a hardware keyboard on various devices for the past 3 years and my typing speed is rather quick. Granted, I am not overloaded with programs yet but have yet to notice any text display lag. Guess I should be happy about that but it's a bit curious
Anyway, in response to the original posters question, the fix on older devices with les memory, etc was to turn off all auto-help options (auto complete, etc). This helps because the device does not have to browse the DB and make sugestions while trying to keep up with you. Granted, it is not the end all be all fix but it should help until we get some updated drivers from HTC.
My sister recently got the O2 Ignito - her first ever Windows Mobile phone. Now I have been a Windows Mobile user for many years and love it because of all the apps out there and primarily the XDA community and its onging development.
Anyway, she is finding the phone so slow at times and it virtually stops to a crawl or freezes where she needs to reset. She is finding this increasingly frustrating and annoying that she says she is fed up with it and wants to return it. I told her to bear with it and it will take time to get used to a new OS and how it works. She knows about making sure to close apps so they dont run in the background. I know the long term benefits of Windows Mobile and this is why I want her to persist with the phone.
The thing is I don't know why the phone is slow. It has the latest O2 1.93 rom. I have applied and undid some of the touchflo speed tweaks to no avail or difference. The refresh rate of the icons appearing on the screen one by one is quite noticeable when you open the programs menu.
What can I do to speed up the phone and convince her to stick with it?
Thanks!
Cant say why your xda is slow, but it may still be a good idea to flash with the stock rom and get rid of O2's junk,
Surur
the o2 stock rom is actually pretty quick, so i don't see what the problem could be, has she installed lots of software etc? maybe a hard reset may be of help
Well she hasn't installed a lot of software. I have But what is the point of having a WM phone if you can't install stuff on it?
I have no idea why it slows down too.
Mine used to go super slow & almost stop after using the Youtube application. When I upgraded Adobe flash player to newest version for ppc, the lagging stopped. I have since removed the newest flash as the keypad kept popping up on websites that displayed a flash file & got annoying, but reverting to the old version didn't cause the lag to come back, so everything is fine now
After seeing an Iphone in action I think they seem to run a lot smoother & more user friendly, but then you can't install your own apps & extras so easy on them. Maybe an iphone would suit her better?
I like ppc because its easily customisable, if the iphone wasn't locked up to hell I probably would have gone for one of them instead.
this is my first windows phone (i have a 5yr old pda just for sat nav, which now i have a diamond seems fast when using start menu etc).
Although i do like my diamond, i am disappointed with its speed and generally how flakey a windows phone is. Its like going back to windows98.
I saw used a mates iphone before i got the diamond and though the nicer screen res and the smaller device would beat that hands down. but now i've used the iphone since it seems really nice and quick and flowing to use. but yeah u cant add as many apps
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this is my first windows phone (i have a 5yr old pda just for sat nav, which now i have a diamond seems fast when using start menu etc).
Although i do like my diamond, i am disappointed with its speed and generally how flakey a windows phone is. Its like going back to windows98.
I saw used a mates iphone before i got the diamond and though the nicer screen res and the smaller device would beat that hands down. but now i've used the iphone since it seems really nice and quick and flowing to use. but yeah u cant add as many apps
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that's all? can not add apps? lol! copy/paste, multitasking, 3G......see how many ppl are happy with their iphone:
http://www.ihatemyiphone.com/
Maybe if you installed an app that she likes... There are several games outhere, or maybe an app to watch TV over 3G or WiFi.
Did you try one of the themes out there? I made a purple-pink theme for my gf's Diamond and she loves it. Try something similar...
Actually I installed the pink girly theme and the red vodafone theme. She now prefers the black htc theme. Also I installed apps and games that she would like and find useful. She thinks by adding lots of apps it will slow the phone down but I tell he then what is the point of having 4 gigs of storage? Just for music? She tells me it gets extremely hot and lags a bit. It does. I played with it.
I hear some people disable touchflo for a speedier phone. Its a shame, its a lovely interface so why remove it?
Am confused. For example with SK Tools there are optimizations for performance, stability and memory. Initially I did it for performance. Now I changed it to stability. Surely all free are imposrtant so I don't know which to choose. Also in TF3d Config and Diamond tweak apps, do the optimizations really work? They say they speed up the phone but at the expense of memory. But if you then get low memory wont this lag the phone? So then what's the point of applying the tweaks if they use up memory.
Anyone advise the best tweaks to apply so the phone is not slow? I would hate for her to return it.
Thanks so much!
Been a tilt owner since Late dec/Early Jan '09, and only recently have I reflashed the 3rd party rom that came with my phone (bought it used). After some reading and research on this forum I'm proud to say that my tilt is running 95% exactly how I want it to - 5% accounting for an odd bug and some menu stuff I dont want lol.
My main reason for the tilt was its built in GPS and the qwerty kb. the rom that was on the phone was laggy in all sorts of areas, but now its super fast and clear type font works in landscape mode too
my setup:
Ruu_Signed_Duttys_WM6.1_5.2.19700_Hybrid_V2_1_65.14.06_CubeV2_
KAIS_RADIO_ONLY_1.71.09.01_CustomRuu
iGO8 GPS (Nav n Go)
SPB mobile Shell
now my GPS works, landscape switches over fast, keyboard works fast, I love this phone
Thanks everyone here on xda for all the great posts and info!
Good to hear when someone took the time to get to know their device and make it how they want it instead of complaining about the issues of the stock roms!
Just curious, what exactly are the issues that fall in your 5%?
part of the 5% is just lil bugs like running mobile shell + dutty rom, when viewing the missed calls menu, its missing the "calls in, out, connected" menu bar at the bottom at times, but reappears after a reset.
or stuff like when using a b/t headset, with my ringer on, sometimes it doesnt ring, when my old rom used to.. just lil things to figure out when i have time to play around with it more.
my most prized accomplishment is the gps, one of the sole reasons i wanted the phone
i've got the Tytn 2 as well, perfect pocket PC for me, Qwerty kb, Built-in GPS.
Everthing i want is in it, only the cam (3.1MP) is not enough.
But there is a lot of information on this website, i will thank everbody who has worked on it.
Now is wanna flash the ROM to install WM 6.5 beta, but its difficult cause there is so much info.
I think i can do it, with a little help.
Greetz
Hi guys, as you can see from my sig I owned a few HTC in these years and I moved on from WM to Android about 2 years ago.
I'm writing this post as a request of suggestion from you as I don't have any experience with how Android behave on Tytn II and it's not for me but for my dad..!
He's been using his Tytn II for quite some time so far and I wanted to know if you would suggest me to flash for him Android on his device.
Please before answering considere that it's not for me, it's for a man of a certain age (around 60) that doesn't want any complication and doesn't have any time to dedicate to solve any issue that my come from the process.
So if this would bring him an increase of its device performance and usability I would definetely go for it, but don't want to hear him complaining all the time bout me having ruined his phone because of FC or random reboots or whatever ...
Is there any ROM free of issues and stable enough?!
I enjoy changing kernels, roms and radios of my devices, but you got what I meant before right? Once again: it's not for me..!
Thanks everybody in advance for your suggestions
First of all, before recommending anything.
I understand that your dad is as you say "a man of a certain age (around 60)". Is he savy on learning how to use new things? Meaning navigate his way around using things. IE: with his WM.
As far as if problems will arise, these things will happens (IE: FC, etc...) Depending on how he use it too. But it can be control to the minimum.
From my experience all ROMs are pretty much the same as far a being stable. It will depends on features and a few other things.
BeenAndroidized said:
I understand that your dad is as you say "a man of a certain age (around 60)". Is he savy on learning how to use new things? Meaning navigate his way around using things. IE: with his WM.
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Well..he use his Tytn II as he would have used any "old style phone". No app or whatsoever installed a part from a navigator (which I installed..) ....and once that something was not working properly he didn't anything for about 6 months till I discovered it, PIM backupped everything and made a hard reset to get it back to its functionality...so I'd say: yeah if he need to he will learn, but he won't search by himself any workaround..
And the main problem is that we don't live anymore together, I'm currently at them just till Feb and then I'll b back to Athens where I live...so I won't be here to help him out..!
That said, he's quite tech friendly, he's on his PC all day long and part of his job is to build different sites for various committents...
But from your words I can understand it need far more attentions than I think my dad would like to give to this thing..
Best way is to ask him.
my 2 cents
Well, as far as I can see,
my TyTn II with android is faster, more reliable and overall most usable.
The touch screen feels more like a capacitive touchscreen rather than a resistive one (wich is actually what the TyTN has).
Regarding the "age" of your father, I think it's not a problem.
mine has the same age of yours and he's arguing with Samsung Bada Os every day...so I showed him how "easy" is Android regarding Bada and he was amazed.
the counterpart is that, if he want to move to Android, you have to set up the whole thing in every little piece:
Android version, htc overclock, hiding "dangerous" icons from the drawer (such as the root app ) so he can't cause any "damage" by hitting something wrong.
I'm currently running under Froyo on mine, and it's pretty faster as I said BUT...
sometimes it FC (well, I'm like an addicted to customisations, so it's pretty normal... xD), it freezes for a while, Launcher Pro will FC (I personally hate ADW), my battery drains fast (but again, is because I put all kind of custom on it...IE: live wallpapers, custom lockscreen etc etc)
IMO if you go to a pretty simple version (such as 1.6 or alike) it won't have any kind of problems...
I give you a tip:
google for simosoft project...
he developped an Android "emulator"... install it on his device and see his reactions... from there you can do everything: phone calls, text messaging, emailing (because it basically uses the WinMo programs ) and it's not a flashing rom, it's just a installable .cab file.
try and see
I think this is the best thing you can do to avoid any kind of "stress"...
otherwise, for instance, you can make a huge backup, flash a rom, make him try
and then, if in few days/weeks he can't go on with Android (wich IMO is impossible) you can revert it back to the useless WinMo
let me know :-D
Thanks for all the advices..I'll think about it & I'll let you know
Sent from my brain with Beats Audio using my psychic powers
I'd suggest leaving him with a good stable WM ROM. There are still newer ones but I my favorite was an old one by shifu. You might look for a WM rom that has not a lot of extras, good stability, and updated versions of any "aftermarket" apps.
Or, give him a haret install. If he likes it but complains that it is too slow, you can get more speed by installing nand. But don't do that until you know he likes it.