Downgrading Trinity to Original ROM (not IPL/SPL) using Hard-SPL - P3600 Software Upgrading

Hello community!
I am really new to all that upgrading and flashing stuff, but after reading and reading the forum, the wiki and trinityguides.info I finally installed Olipro's Hard-SPL 1.20 successfully. But before I proceed to update the whole Radio / ROM, I have one question:
Assume I later want to downgrade to the original WM 5.0 ROM, but I don't want to lose Hard-SPL - can I just take the original German ROM described in the "CAB Collections | ROMs | Useful links" thread, follow trinityguides and flash it like every other ROM? I'm asking that because I think I read somewhere that flashing a ROM which includes any SPL can be dangerous with Hard-SPL, and as my Trinity is quite new, I just would like to be certain about that
Thanks in advance,
electron174
PS: Please don't be too hard on me if similar questions have been asked before - I searched a lot, but didn't find anything matching exactly to my problem

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Which ROM and USPL/HSPL?

Need some advice please!
Just got a Touch HD which was locked to Orange, now unlocked as I want to be on O2.
Which standard (do not want a cooked rom yet) WWE ROM would you advise to flash, which would work best with o2? Is there a standard o2 rom ?
And, to get this rom on I will need either USPL or HSPL - which would you recommend? P.S. I'm on Vista, so is one easier to use than the other, or safer ?
Thanks All. Any advice much appreciated.
this has been asked a thousand times throughout dozens of phones... only one answer:
Try it out and see for yourself. Each one is different, so how is one better than the next? One rom might be less stable than another but could be due to hardware revisions in your phone etc...
HARDSPL / USPL - check out the USPL thread for an explanation of the differences. Again, it's entirely up to you. This is the information that I've searched and spent 5 minutes reading for you...
Hard SPL - more reliable, void warranty, flashing a permanent SPL
USPL - less reliable, no void, temporary
There is no English O2 stock ROM yet, so choose any of the HTC ones off the Wiki.
If you want to keep things stock, then use USPL, if you plan to flash lots of roms use Hard SPL.
Please take your time to read the stickies and wiki pages, all these questions have been answered before.
Thanks
Dave

Orange UK 1.19.61.1 WWE (hopefully working)

Hi all,
My first time being a productive member of this great forum (or at least, I hope so ).
I've been wanting to flash the ROM on my Touch HD with Orange UK (something I've never done before), but as an "insurance policy", wanted to have a backup of the stock ROM in case I have he need to restore it, or need to send back the phone to Orange for some reason. After searching the Internet at large and this forum in particular, I was unable to find a dump of the same ROM version as the one I have (1.19.61.1) with Orange UK, so after an hour or more of searching and reading, I was finally able to follow the steps to extract the ROM from memory in .raw format and then reassemble it as an .nbh file using the itsutils tools and the Blackstone "Kitchen" tools. The reference ROM I used for the reconstruction process was this one (found through the forums):
RUU_BlackStone_HKCSL_WWE_1.19.831.0_Radio_52.49a.2 5.26_1.09.25.14_Ship.exe
Here are the complete details regarding the ROM I'm posting, from the Device Information program of my phone:
Operator version: 34.119.1.611
ROM version: 1.19.61.1 WWE
ROM date: 11/25/08
Radio version: 1.09.25.14
Protocol version: 52.49a.25.26U
The process seems to have gone smoothly, and I have ended up with ruu_signed.nbh file, which I have uploaded for you all on Rapidshare and Mediafire.
However, I have not actually flashed my device with this ROM (since this is the current ROM on my device, and having no actual experience in flashing yet, the result might seem a bit ambigious to me) I would really appreciate it if someone would verify whether it actually works or not, so people don't heap curses on me if it doesn't... I'm just a newbie, remember.
So without further ado:
http://rapidshare.com/files/228874929/Touch_HD_Orange_UK_1.19.61.1_WWE.rar
Mediafire:
http://www.mediafire.com/?sharekey=eb6c7c685fb1912708f8df73f2072ed6e04e75f6e8ebb871
This is exactly what i need! Hope its working for the both of us!
original spl
hi i might need to use your dumped rom - i will probably also need to reinstall my original spl (have used a hspl to flash cooked rom) - i noted down my original rom and radio, but not the spl - can you tell me what was the original spl with this rom?
thanx
protoism said:
hi i might need to use your dumped rom - i will probably also need to reinstall my original spl (have used a hspl to flash cooked rom) - i noted down my original rom and radio, but not the spl - can you tell me what was the original spl with this rom?
thanx
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Orginal SPL 1.14.000
MrKaon said:
Orginal SPL 1.14.000
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thx
hate to be a complete dweeb, but how do i flash this dumped ROM - its just a nbl file how how do i couple it with a rom update utility??
Guys, check this out. I hope, it will be usefull for you.
Blackstone_Orange_UK_1.14.405.3
11.Nov.08
http://rapidshare.com/files/16237350...Ship.part1.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/16237926...Ship.part2.rar
http://rapidshare.com/files/16238323...Ship.part3.rar
P.S. it was found in this site.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=444170

Question about OEM ROMs

Hi I am new to play with ROMs
But I brought my TP2 with a Europe ROM in Melbourne= =
And I'd want to change it into CHT_TW or WWE_ASIA
I found them here http://xda.caspersworld.co.uk/
But after extract, and putting into a blank mirco-SD card,
When I run the OEM.cer, my TP2 came a error said:
'One or more certificates were installed successfully'
So.......how can I use these ROMs
Plz Help....Thanks a lot
Please search and read before trying to flash ROMs.
You need to use QMAT to flash Shipped ROM (like those on casspersworld) or wait for Hard SPL to be developed and then you can flash whatever you want (I'll be doing a guide when Hard SPL is out).
There are instructions in various places.
Ta
Dave

[Q] About ROM upgrade.

Hi all,
Excuse me if apparentely it's can seems I repeat old and answred question, but sincerely I have not yet sufficentely clear ideas on how I can flash my blackstone with an updated Rom.
I want remark that I have a decent knowledge on developing a program for W.M., but I confess that after read various threads and articles about, I remained in a great confusion yet!
The question:
I have a branded (Tim) Blackstone:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.13.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (Led) v6
Device Info:
ROM Version 1.13.401.0 (20428)ITA
ROM Date 10/25/08
Radio Version 1.09.25.14
Protocol Version: 52.49a.25.26W
This device ABSOLUTELY need to be upgraded to the Rom 1.56 (but first of all I WANT TO UNBRAND it).
After an initial problem (caused by the unricognized S/N), I dowloaded (using another S/N) from Htc the File:
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_ITA_1.56.408.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe
To upgrade my device, I want to preserve only the country and the language, because I read that it is necessary to preserve the A-Gps funtionalities (data changes country by coutry). Is it thrue?
I understood that I can't use it, cause the Tim brand of my device.
In my case only the brand is not matching, while the language and country are apparentely matching.
(But, why the "401" of my device is not matching with the "408" of file I downloaded? Can I use the file with this unmatching country code?)
1) - I have a great confusion on SPL, HSPL, SSPL, USPL.
2) - I have a great confusion because I not understood if Radio Rom upgrade and Rom upgrade are 2 different processes or not.
3) - Is the Rom version related (developed) for a specific Hardware version (as it is logical to think)?
4) - Is the Radio rom "country sensitive"? (As I think that each country have a different GSM Net).
5) - If want upgrade both radio and rom, what instrument exactely I need?
Please can you clear my ideas.... and doubts?
Thanks
Ignazio
Ok, you have managed to get an official HTC rom, you can also find some more here
If you use HSPL or USPL, this will allow you to flash the new rom. If you are intending on staying on the official rom, uspl will probably be the best option for you to use.
In response to your questions:
1) SPL - Second Program Loader is a boot loader after IPL (Initial Program Loader) often seen on smart phones and PDA's. SPL is similar to a BIOS in a computer and can be flashed and updated.
The difference between USPL and HSPL:
* HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
* USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
* SSPL is just another method of getting to change the spl and is only really needed if you experience problems using one of the other methods.
Hopefully this makes it a little clearer for you.
2) It depends. The radio is in most cases included in the rom. The rom you are looking to use included a radio. This is shown by the 1.13.25.24 in the name of your rom, so if you install that rom it will also update the radio in a single process. You can however also only upgrade the radio and then it is done as a separate process and will not affect the rom.
3) All the roms are initially developed for a particular hardware configuration I would imagine, but there are many fantastic chefs here on xda who take roms meant for other devices and are able to port some of the components to a cooked rom which can then be used on a number of different devices.
4) Yes, radios are country and area sensitive, so what works well for one person in a particular area would possibly not work as well for you.
5) You will need to use either hspl or uspl in order to upgrade your radio (if you are using one intended for an HTC). Some people have taken radios from other devices such as the Omnia, but in order to flash these radios you need to do a security unlock of your device and there are special tools that allow you to do this, but this is really only a last resort if you can't find an HTC radio that works for you.
The steps to follow in order to flash are described in the Dummies Guide to Flashing (see link in my signature) and if you have any further questions, please ask them in that thread.
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
hurricane3000 said:
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
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Pleasure, so what are the remaining 30%?
Rom Problems..
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
thekingro said:
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
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Read the Dummies Guide (link in my signature). If you have any more queries please post them in that thread as this one is likely to be closed down soon.
ROMS are a personal thing, so have a look at a few and read some of the more popular threads (ie the ones that keep popping to the top) and depending on the feedback received from users make a choice. Once you've flashed once it becomes addictive and you'll try a few before you find one that suits you.
another thing
after i follow all the steps from there all roms should work..after that finnishing them i start that rom update launcher that comes with every rom?
Continuing on Dummies Guide thread.......
As above, continue on dummies guide
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Another scream for help...

Hi,
I have my HD from march and being interested in WM6.5 and disappointed by HTC because they do not release an upgrade I decided to try some cooked roms.
I used USPL so that I can keep my original SPL.
I tried:
* Duttys WM6.5 Sense 2.1 Holy Grail
* Duttys WM6.5 Leo Holy Grail
* Topix HD
From the first boot I have noisy screen image with 4 colours or something .... but after entering in sleep mode and restore it recovers to normal "true color" until I reset the device. I can live with that but the real issue is that I cannot start my phone using the original radio neither with the latest versions I found for HTC HD. No error there, it simply stays off after I confirm that I want to enable the phone.
Also the device is hanging for very long time now and then and I have exactly the same problem/behaviour with all the above roms. I tried some fixes found in the forum but nothing works and I did not found anybody with the same weird behaviour.
I wand to recover my stock firmware but I found that even I brought mine from Romania it has a Czech S/N and HTC does not provide a stock ROM for this "v1.56.402 - Czech republic - not supported".
What can I do. do you guys know if I can get the original firmware from somewhere?
Thanks.
Obviously you havent bothered to read anything let alone the guidelines of starting new threads.
The answers are in the forum I suggest you take time to read and start by reading the forum guidelines and the sticky threads.
If you dont understand what you're doing then stick to a stock ROM until you do or you might brick your phone.
You say that you used uspl. Are you sure that it was successful as the symptoms you describe are typical when you have the incorrect spl for the rom you are using. After using uspl, what spl is showing in the bootloader screen?
Follow the steps in the Dummies Guide to Flashing and your problems should be sorted out.
If you still have further questions, post them in that thread as the mods will close this one as soon as they come across it (as explained by homer285)
you're ok as long as you can still go to bootloader mode, then go back to the uspl 2.5 guide here, FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS STEP BY STEP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462347
format your sd card using fat32 (full format) (if you are a frequent flasher I suggest you get a small capacity sd card – 1Gb - and devote this only for flashing)
rename the RUU_signed.nbh to BLACIMG.nbh and pair this with ROMUpdateUtility -(application file) OR BlackstoneRUUWrapper (whichever the ROM cook presents) copy these TWO files in your formatted sd card.
then using Digital Outcast's USPL GUI: look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508361
if you're using Vista see this to update your sync driver
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...u-on-vista-it-can-be-done-the-ultimate-guide/
flash the ROM.
I hope I make the above clear to you.
suggestion: Read the howtos!
If I was you I would do like this:
- flash hspl.
- flash latest radio from memorystick
- flash any 23xxx-rom from memstick (miri or phamQ can I recommend).
Cant understand why you are doing it the complicated way... there are ways to recover to original-spl if needed. This is the easyest way to flash 6.5 and it is almost fail-safe.
good luck!
brumbrum said:
suggestion: Read the howtos!
If I was you I would do like this:
- flash hspl.
- flash latest radio from memorystick
- flash any 23xxx-rom from memstick (miri or phamQ can I recommend).
Cant understand why you are doing it the complicated way... there are ways to recover to original-spl if needed. This is the easyest way to do it and it is almost fail-safe.
good luck!
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dont add to the confusion, he is already using USPL, the SAFEST METHOD as stated by Dutty Throy, he even advocates this in all of his cooked ROMs
all he needs to do is to redo the steps again as i posted above.
Sorry for my panic post
Yes, after 8 hours of trying stuff I did not read post guide-lines but I searched all the internet and xda forums, tried all the dumb fixes for my weird behaviours without any success.
I am sure that my original rom it is not available and I call for help from people that have Czech S/N English version to extract the flash and the radio if it is no so complicated or if they have it as backup.
Actually I read every "flashing for dummies" posts and only when I thought I got everything I started to flash it.
I used the latest 2.5 USPL, the GUI one and also the command line from the cmd prompt so I saw all the output lines and there was no error at all. It is clear that the device was successfully flashed and I respected all the version requirements stated in description of the packages. The problem comes from some sort of incompatibility. The versions at boot is the right one.
The only wrong thing I did was after seeing USPL 2.5 coloured boot loader I go on with the tutorial which said to read on screen RUU instructions which said to connect with activesync and I did as they said and restart the device, cradle and continue flashing in which case the original SPL started and I got a flashing error on the desktop client but after restarting the device everything run normally with the stock firmware and I think I have a good understanding on how it work and I can say that that error does not hurt a bit.
I finally succeed, in the morning, to flash 6.1 vanilla topaz and almost everything works except the GPS module and I am investigating this issue.
It is clear that you cannot help me an my device issue related to WM6.5 roms are unique and I will investigate this on my own.
Sorry to everybody, again, for my wrong located post and have a nice day.

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