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WM6 official to cooked WM6?

Hello guys...need some advises here....
Just bought Dopod 810 with WM6 official....but can I use cooked WM6 that available here?
any risks doing it?

Some risks
Hi Wid -
You can use the ROMs posted here. They will work on any Trinity. Some things to watch out for:
- you can "brick" your phone, which means it stops responding to any inputs, becoming as useful as a brick.
- however you can fix "bricking"
- You can also avoid bricking by removing the Service Provider Lock (SPL) software and replacing it with a non-restictive SPL (see posts in this forum)
- if you remove or change your SPL, you technically have violated the terms of your contract with your telecom provider. This probably won't be a problem for day-to-day use, but if you ever need warranty service, or other service with the device, they can refuse to provide it because of your use of a non-offical ROM.
see here for more discussion of ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331429
Good luck!
Mike

Hi mike....thanks for the information...
I did read about "brick" my device & I have been suggested that I must do Hard SPL first prior flashing with cooked ROM.
FYI, my phone is not under contract with my service provider...just warranty by the manufacturer...so should I still need to remove SPL? or do HARD SPL 1st then star flashing my phone?
thanks
wid

anyone can help me?

If you install any cooked ROM or change SPL you run the risk of your manufacturer warranty been in-validated.
The question you should ask yourself, is it worth the possible trouble?
Changing WM6 for a cooked WM6, i'm not sure, but only you can answer that question.

Yes...I just wondering....because I'm type of person that like to try something new.
But after sometimes, search & read...I decided to keep with my original ROM.
Thank you for all advises here

What exactly is hardSPL? USPL vs hardSPL

I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks

Essentially what you are doing is changing the Bootloader so you can install a different ROM regardless if it's signed.
USPL and HardSPL is a matter of having it done temporarely or permenantly.
USPL (temporary), is the safe route. This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL. So if you're not a big flasher, and thinking about selling your phone in the near future, then you might want to stick to this method.
HardSPL (permenant), is the only TRUE way of bricking your phone. You will flash the bootloader for good so that you can constantly flash new ROMs without having to worry about flashing your bootloader of making sure it's a signed ROM. For heavy flashers, like myself, this is the ideal route.
HardSPL is reversible, there are some threads on how to do that. If I remember correctly, you have to flash back to a Stock T-Mo ROM.
Some ROMs require HardSPL because sometimes the cooks use different methods to flash ROMs onto devices other than ActiveSync (which is needed for flashing via USPL).
For example, ttran001's Open Touch V4.0 Micro ROM flashes onto your device using your SDCard, the phone is never connected to you PC so no opertunity to USPL. If it was not HardSPL'd, the ROM would be rejected. If it was, the flash would continue flawlessly.
I hope this answers your questions, and please, if I got anything wrong, correct me.
Regards,

three4seven said:
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Oh and from what I understand, installing those cabs wont hurt your device if you dont HardSPL. I believe you can uninstall them from the "remove program" which can be found under Settings/System/Remove Programs.
Everyone's allowed a Noob question every now and then I only know all this info because I read, so im sure if you read u'll be just fine.

nKiwan, thanks for quick and throrough reply
I get a little lost with this:
nKiwan said:
This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL.
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what does that mean exactly?
perhaps I should start by asking the USPL acronym stands for - I've googled it and I couldn't find the right acronym.
From my understanding.. the only real difference (besides one uspl rom per uspl vs infinite - i'm still a little hazy on that) is that hardSPL allows for flashing outside of activesync?
thanks again... I swear I tried my best using the search function and reading

Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device. This will temporarely change your bootloader so it will allow you to flash a non signed ROM, a.k.a. an "outside" ROM. USPL capable ROMs, are ROMs that you can flash using USPL, therefore, ActiveSync.
Well there are two differences I guess... HardSPL, basically, allows for flashing outside of ActiveSync; and will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .

nKiwan said:
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device.
hardSPL.... will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
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Technically then.. I could also flash any rom as many times as I want using USPL as long as I run USPL.exe? I read the flashing guide several times. The only difference I found was that you run USPL.exe and it goes through a loader instead of just running the RUU flaser. Is that right?
i apologize once again if I am being incredibly dense.
thanks again for putting up with my n00bness

there ya go! you got it. As you become more experienced you'll start to understand the need of HardSPL.
I was once a noob myself, so i understand where u coming from . Just glad I can help.
Regards,

nkiwan - thank you so much for answering my barrage of n00b questions.
You have been a great help. I really appreciate it.

Wow I think this is the coolest thread I have read ...it is just awesome what the WWW has done for all of us and thanks for the info

Glad I can help

I can understnad the use of USPL but I would recommend the use of hard SPL if you are planning to flash multiple roms. Either way I think it is just a matter of whether or not you actually want to run the USPL everytime you want to flash a rom... Don't quote me on that.

Just to doublecheck myself....
If I use USPL method and hard reset my phone - will I have the stock rom or the flashed one?
if I understand correctly USPL will bring back the stock one after hard reset and HSPL the new one.

very sorry to ask this now..from what i get is there are 3 ways of turning ur phone from phone to super phone:
1. install .cabs
2.soft flashing
3.hard flashing???
am i rite??

nKiwan said:
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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I found this thread that you might find useful for the acronyms:xdasite.com/showthread.php?t=1104

Same was with me.....
three4seven said:
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Hi Brother,
Same problem with me i have also search every where but failed... no answer about Hard spl.Every body say do hard spl and search in fourm and so on. There was no proper guide what it is and how to do. i was really puzzel. Now i have come to know that axect what it is Hard Spl.
Hard Spl mean CID unlock. If you unlock CId of the phone its mean you have done Hard SPl. Without CID unlock you can not write ROM.
Thanks
Br Raja

I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?

Stargazer418 said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
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You can always check in the bootloader screen (the RGB screen).
Even if you have a 4.70.Yang you still need the IPL to be higher than 4 to flash custom ROMs. That is what is important.
If you ever see any of these number's change, Run the HardSPL folder again.

Terminology

Hello
Could someone please kindly explain what does SPL mean?
And why ROM is called ROM? Is it the firmware?
Doews HSPL void warranty and USPL not?
I searched at google for a while but didnt get a proper answer.
Sorry to ask this here. Anyway, I am sure there are a lots of people who would like this to know as well.
Thanks

no idea..

Check my post at the end of the "Dummys......" sticky post, Uspl Doesnt invalidadte as its a temporary change as far as I'm aware. Hspl however invalidates the Eula of windows I think.

http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone

Rom=Read Only Memory in this rom you find the firmware of your device.

thanks for all your replies..
now I understand why these are called ROMs..
but one thing that still haunts my mind..
what does SPL stand for? i am very curious in this..what is it for?
is it some securtiy protocol? or what?
thanks guys..

SPL - second program loader.
the SPL is the bootloader. on a pc, the equivalent is BIOS.
HSPL is what you use to edit the SPL in such a way that it would allow you to use custom ROMS. its a permanent change as you are flashing a new SPL. USPL works only whenever you use/run it, so the SPL remains unchanged. changes are only temporary and when the USPL application is closed (or the device rebooted), the device goes back to its previous SPL.

See the SPL Questions page on the wiki. It will tell you more than your ever want to know .
AFAIK, USPL void's the warranty just as much as Hard SPL, but does it in a way that no-one can detect.
It's like saying the warranty is void if used in the attic, taking your phone in the attic will void it, but it will take some proving that you took it into the attic
Dave

nice example with the attic
thanks guys for your replies...Now I finally now what SPL is thanks to ASK768.. thanks...
have a great one...

no problem.
but actually, while we're at it, why would one want to flash a new radio on their device? what kind of benefits does it give?

ASK768 said:
no problem.
but actually, while we're at it, why would one want to flash a new radio on their device? what kind of benefits does it give?
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I suggest you read up on radio's. Generally speaking newer versions have better reception, GPS fixed, less battery drain. Obviously area/country you are in may effect reception so best to read up on which radio's work better in which areas!

Help help help

I am sorry to open a new thread for that but i got sick from flashing my rom for nothing
I tried 2 different cooked roms Energy and Dutty using the latest uspl and it worked BUT the screen is in NEGATIVE colors like old photographs before printing unless i get back to stock _HTC Touch HD_RUU_BlackStone_HTC_ARA_1.14.415.2_Radio_52.57.25.30_1.10.25.25_Ship
and this is the only rom that makes my screen operates normal a lot of people replayed to this in other threads advising to change the uspl which i believe has nothing to do with my problem

Perhaps you should listen to the people who give you advice and try a new spl as they say before making a new thread. As you've been told already an outdated SPL is almost certain the cause of your problems.
Just making new threads posting the same problem without listening to the help provided will only lead to annoyance instead of helpfullness and most likely a mod will close this thread (please do mods)

wmh said:
Perhaps you should listen to the people who give you advice and try a new spl as they say before making a new thread. As you've been told already an outdated SPL is almost certain the cause of your problems.
Just making new threads posting the same problem without listening to the help provided will only lead to annoyance instead of helpfullness and most likely a mod will close this thread (please do mods)
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That's a little harsh since the USPL thread is very ambiguous... suggesting a USPL update is a nicer way of keeping your original SPL.
In fact a number of ROMs state 'Must have SPL xxx' but make no mention of USPL. I (so far have survived by USPL only without any measurable issues).
It is not entirely clear what functionality the SPL is providing above being the secondary loader and verifier of legitimate ROMs for reflash, clearly there's more functionality involved that some ROMs depend on.
It would be far better if the ROM cookers would say "needs permanent SPL to xxxx' or 'Flashable with USPL, with a min permanent SPL of xxxxx"

I tend to disagree, yes the thread might be ambiguous but in the info can be found within the spl and uspl threads. Also the point of my post was that he has asked but ignored the answers and made a new thread asking the same,. irregardless of how clear the info in this forum might be presented he could at least have tried the given advice or as many people seem to forget,.... use search and the wiki:
Here's a post about spl btw on the wiki which will explain what it does for the most part, found it in no more then 20 seconds:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
As for the issue itself which seems to be unclear to TheBrilliantMistake and the original poster:
Custom roms are based upon standard roms with a certain version of SPL, so flashing one of those roms will require having a certain version not lower then that upon which the rom is built. Looking at the ship version posted it's a very old one and thus has a low SPL, the cooked roms he's been trying to flash have been based upon a higher version ship rom and thus don't work with his low SPL version. Thus he needs to upgrade his SPL. As for USPL, thats just a temporary SPL so you just need a correct version if you want to use that, the pricinple stays the same as with SPL.
Hope this simplified explantion will do (correct me if im wrong, im no rom cooker yet)

ok, try and treat others as you would like to be treated.
Reason why your getting these colour issues is due to your SPL being incorrect for whatever rom your using.
There is a section in the wiki here which is worth reading, as well as this dummies guide to flashing tutuorial.
Any future queries on flashing issues should be posted in dummies guide thread
Ta
Rick
p.s. thread closed

[Q] About ROM upgrade.

Hi all,
Excuse me if apparentely it's can seems I repeat old and answred question, but sincerely I have not yet sufficentely clear ideas on how I can flash my blackstone with an updated Rom.
I want remark that I have a decent knowledge on developing a program for W.M., but I confess that after read various threads and articles about, I remained in a great confusion yet!
The question:
I have a branded (Tim) Blackstone:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.13.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (Led) v6
Device Info:
ROM Version 1.13.401.0 (20428)ITA
ROM Date 10/25/08
Radio Version 1.09.25.14
Protocol Version: 52.49a.25.26W
This device ABSOLUTELY need to be upgraded to the Rom 1.56 (but first of all I WANT TO UNBRAND it).
After an initial problem (caused by the unricognized S/N), I dowloaded (using another S/N) from Htc the File:
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_ITA_1.56.408.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe
To upgrade my device, I want to preserve only the country and the language, because I read that it is necessary to preserve the A-Gps funtionalities (data changes country by coutry). Is it thrue?
I understood that I can't use it, cause the Tim brand of my device.
In my case only the brand is not matching, while the language and country are apparentely matching.
(But, why the "401" of my device is not matching with the "408" of file I downloaded? Can I use the file with this unmatching country code?)
1) - I have a great confusion on SPL, HSPL, SSPL, USPL.
2) - I have a great confusion because I not understood if Radio Rom upgrade and Rom upgrade are 2 different processes or not.
3) - Is the Rom version related (developed) for a specific Hardware version (as it is logical to think)?
4) - Is the Radio rom "country sensitive"? (As I think that each country have a different GSM Net).
5) - If want upgrade both radio and rom, what instrument exactely I need?
Please can you clear my ideas.... and doubts?
Thanks
Ignazio

Ok, you have managed to get an official HTC rom, you can also find some more here
If you use HSPL or USPL, this will allow you to flash the new rom. If you are intending on staying on the official rom, uspl will probably be the best option for you to use.
In response to your questions:
1) SPL - Second Program Loader is a boot loader after IPL (Initial Program Loader) often seen on smart phones and PDA's. SPL is similar to a BIOS in a computer and can be flashed and updated.
The difference between USPL and HSPL:
* HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
* USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
* SSPL is just another method of getting to change the spl and is only really needed if you experience problems using one of the other methods.
Hopefully this makes it a little clearer for you.
2) It depends. The radio is in most cases included in the rom. The rom you are looking to use included a radio. This is shown by the 1.13.25.24 in the name of your rom, so if you install that rom it will also update the radio in a single process. You can however also only upgrade the radio and then it is done as a separate process and will not affect the rom.
3) All the roms are initially developed for a particular hardware configuration I would imagine, but there are many fantastic chefs here on xda who take roms meant for other devices and are able to port some of the components to a cooked rom which can then be used on a number of different devices.
4) Yes, radios are country and area sensitive, so what works well for one person in a particular area would possibly not work as well for you.
5) You will need to use either hspl or uspl in order to upgrade your radio (if you are using one intended for an HTC). Some people have taken radios from other devices such as the Omnia, but in order to flash these radios you need to do a security unlock of your device and there are special tools that allow you to do this, but this is really only a last resort if you can't find an HTC radio that works for you.
The steps to follow in order to flash are described in the Dummies Guide to Flashing (see link in my signature) and if you have any further questions, please ask them in that thread.

Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.

hurricane3000 said:
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
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Pleasure, so what are the remaining 30%?

Rom Problems..
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer

thekingro said:
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
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Read the Dummies Guide (link in my signature). If you have any more queries please post them in that thread as this one is likely to be closed down soon.
ROMS are a personal thing, so have a look at a few and read some of the more popular threads (ie the ones that keep popping to the top) and depending on the feedback received from users make a choice. Once you've flashed once it becomes addictive and you'll try a few before you find one that suits you.

another thing
after i follow all the steps from there all roms should work..after that finnishing them i start that rom update launcher that comes with every rom?

Continuing on Dummies Guide thread.......

As above, continue on dummies guide
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