Hello guys...need some advises here....
Just bought Dopod 810 with WM6 official....but can I use cooked WM6 that available here?
any risks doing it?
Some risks
Hi Wid -
You can use the ROMs posted here. They will work on any Trinity. Some things to watch out for:
- you can "brick" your phone, which means it stops responding to any inputs, becoming as useful as a brick.
- however you can fix "bricking"
- You can also avoid bricking by removing the Service Provider Lock (SPL) software and replacing it with a non-restictive SPL (see posts in this forum)
- if you remove or change your SPL, you technically have violated the terms of your contract with your telecom provider. This probably won't be a problem for day-to-day use, but if you ever need warranty service, or other service with the device, they can refuse to provide it because of your use of a non-offical ROM.
see here for more discussion of ROMs:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=331429
Good luck!
Mike
Hi mike....thanks for the information...
I did read about "brick" my device & I have been suggested that I must do Hard SPL first prior flashing with cooked ROM.
FYI, my phone is not under contract with my service provider...just warranty by the manufacturer...so should I still need to remove SPL? or do HARD SPL 1st then star flashing my phone?
thanks
wid
anyone can help me?
If you install any cooked ROM or change SPL you run the risk of your manufacturer warranty been in-validated.
The question you should ask yourself, is it worth the possible trouble?
Changing WM6 for a cooked WM6, i'm not sure, but only you can answer that question.
Yes...I just wondering....because I'm type of person that like to try something new.
But after sometimes, search & read...I decided to keep with my original ROM.
Thank you for all advises here
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Morning all
I have been offered a swap for my iPhone for a brand new boxed Orange TyTn II and Im just wondering if its worth doing?
I have had previous windows mobile phones and do like the phones so I am considering the trade, I am currently on o2.
The thing is i have read all the posts about unlocking and flashing roms etc and im a little on edge about doing it myself as im sure i will break it lol
I would basically need to sim unlock the phone and remove all the orange software as I think it looks naff!
How much work is envolved in doing what i need and how long would it take?
Sorry if im repeating a post, im not the best at forums and get lost with all this info you guys have!
Cheers
Sy
Absolutely YES!!!
There is no contest. The TyTN II wins hands down!!!
Leave well enough alone. Perhaps get a sim unlocker. Just do a search and you should find something. But don't play around with flashing roms etc. You may regret it.
Use the HTC original apps which you will find on a sticky at the beginning of this forum.
You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps
I'm wondering if i should get a TyTn 2 now or wait for a Xperia.
Checked out the TyTn at a store a couple of days ago and i loved it, the only thing i didnt like was that it doesnt have a radio. Then i read around in this forum and came across the driver problems and the touchscreen bug and due to them i'm more inclined to wait for Xperia, but then i checked out Xperia's design and i didnt like the way the keyboard slides to, makes you operate the joystick with the right hand instead of the left and that's kind of uncomfortable.
seriously, who uses radio? I stream my Sirius satalite radio..
Sirius Pwnz AM/FM
..........
Audio said:
You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps
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dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?
jonneymendoza said:
dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?
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Yes you MUST CID unlock as well (unless it has already been done, which is doubtful if it is on Orange).
My advice...Before even getting the TYTN II, read the sticky's and Wikis in the upgrading ROM section at least 3 times over to ensure you have an idea of what you are going to need to do before even doing anything. when you think you understand it, read them again.
Then go ahead and flash any ROM you fancy and enjoy the benfits of the TYTN II voer the Iphone.
HardSPL is the replacement bootloader that allows you to install an non original ROM.
Im on T mobile and i hav heard that the ROM is not heavily branded. im just worried about bricking it. i already have the MDA viara 3.
reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679 doing hardspl, does that automaticly unlock the CID or is there another tool to do that? if so do CID unlock it first and then hardspl?
You will NEED to CID unlock AND HardSPL...Do not consider doing anything untill you are 100% certain of the steps you are performing and why, otherwise you will have a rather expensive paperweight.
EVERYTHING you need to know and more about Rom flashing is contained here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Seriously, ensure you read every link and sub link related to ROM flashing. Even make sure you read the "inspirational reading" bit, that will give you the confidence to try it.
As long as you read you will be fine.
When I was new here I spent 4 days solid reading reading and reading before biting the bullet and flashing my first ROM. At
Thanks for the advice. one small question. if i was to follow this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1790046&postcount=3 word for word i should be succesful?
there is one question i am still confused about and thats this hardspl/cid unlock. according to the Thread i linked, all i got to do is follow the guide from HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device (4 free) and bam im ready to Flash the ROM?
also what are the major benefits of flashing to a custom ROM?
does the procedure from that last link above hardspl AND CID at the same time?
hi i managed to hardspl my device succesfuly. so im ready to install a new cooked ROM? what are the best ROMS out there that i can try. i have seen dutty's ROM that many have used and was wondering if thats the best one
Does the DUTTY rom improve the camera and video playback?
Hi people,
I bought a htc p4350. Unfortunatly it come's with the english rom, but i need to change it to portuguese, as this htc is to offer to my girlfriend.
I've already been looking for threads concerning this, but as i am a rookie, i don't understand preety much.
I've already dowloaded the official portuguese rom, and that's all i have in my pc. I was wondering if someone of the experts in here, could give me a hand and explain me what tools needed, and the steps required to make this operation.
I,ve seen a lot of people whose pda's turned to bricks, and i didn't wanted to be a part of them, and it's cause i am a rookie that i'm begging for some guidance before make a huge mistake
portuguese greetings,
what is the spl/ipl on your device?
because the device came with an english rom, you cannot flash a portugese rom without some fun modifications. These are called cid-unlocks, and you have two choices- HardSPL, which is permanent and practically unbrickable once you get it on there, or USPL, which is temporary and easy to use for factory returns. Both of these tools, which you say you have, require you to have an IPL and SPL of greater than 4.
thanks for the reply, i'm going to check (as the herald is at my girlfriends house) and when i have an answer, i tell you so you can give me more feedback and guidance.
ipl 4.17.0001 and spl 4.17.0000
what to do now?
Do you have a ptg rom?
use uspl or hard spl to install the rom
Need some advice please!
Just got a Touch HD which was locked to Orange, now unlocked as I want to be on O2.
Which standard (do not want a cooked rom yet) WWE ROM would you advise to flash, which would work best with o2? Is there a standard o2 rom ?
And, to get this rom on I will need either USPL or HSPL - which would you recommend? P.S. I'm on Vista, so is one easier to use than the other, or safer ?
Thanks All. Any advice much appreciated.
this has been asked a thousand times throughout dozens of phones... only one answer:
Try it out and see for yourself. Each one is different, so how is one better than the next? One rom might be less stable than another but could be due to hardware revisions in your phone etc...
HARDSPL / USPL - check out the USPL thread for an explanation of the differences. Again, it's entirely up to you. This is the information that I've searched and spent 5 minutes reading for you...
Hard SPL - more reliable, void warranty, flashing a permanent SPL
USPL - less reliable, no void, temporary
There is no English O2 stock ROM yet, so choose any of the HTC ones off the Wiki.
If you want to keep things stock, then use USPL, if you plan to flash lots of roms use Hard SPL.
Please take your time to read the stickies and wiki pages, all these questions have been answered before.
Thanks
Dave
Hello
Could someone please kindly explain what does SPL mean?
And why ROM is called ROM? Is it the firmware?
Doews HSPL void warranty and USPL not?
I searched at google for a while but didnt get a proper answer.
Sorry to ask this here. Anyway, I am sure there are a lots of people who would like this to know as well.
Thanks
no idea..
Check my post at the end of the "Dummys......" sticky post, Uspl Doesnt invalidadte as its a temporary change as far as I'm aware. Hspl however invalidates the Eula of windows I think.
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=HTC_Blackstone
Rom=Read Only Memory in this rom you find the firmware of your device.
thanks for all your replies..
now I understand why these are called ROMs..
but one thing that still haunts my mind..
what does SPL stand for? i am very curious in this..what is it for?
is it some securtiy protocol? or what?
thanks guys..
SPL - second program loader.
the SPL is the bootloader. on a pc, the equivalent is BIOS.
HSPL is what you use to edit the SPL in such a way that it would allow you to use custom ROMS. its a permanent change as you are flashing a new SPL. USPL works only whenever you use/run it, so the SPL remains unchanged. changes are only temporary and when the USPL application is closed (or the device rebooted), the device goes back to its previous SPL.
See the SPL Questions page on the wiki. It will tell you more than your ever want to know .
AFAIK, USPL void's the warranty just as much as Hard SPL, but does it in a way that no-one can detect.
It's like saying the warranty is void if used in the attic, taking your phone in the attic will void it, but it will take some proving that you took it into the attic
Dave
nice example with the attic
thanks guys for your replies...Now I finally now what SPL is thanks to ASK768.. thanks...
have a great one...
no problem.
but actually, while we're at it, why would one want to flash a new radio on their device? what kind of benefits does it give?
ASK768 said:
no problem.
but actually, while we're at it, why would one want to flash a new radio on their device? what kind of benefits does it give?
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I suggest you read up on radio's. Generally speaking newer versions have better reception, GPS fixed, less battery drain. Obviously area/country you are in may effect reception so best to read up on which radio's work better in which areas!
Hi all,
Excuse me if apparentely it's can seems I repeat old and answred question, but sincerely I have not yet sufficentely clear ideas on how I can flash my blackstone with an updated Rom.
I want remark that I have a decent knowledge on developing a program for W.M., but I confess that after read various threads and articles about, I remained in a great confusion yet!
The question:
I have a branded (Tim) Blackstone:
BLAC100 32M
SPL-1.13.0000
MicroP-BlackStone (Led) v6
Device Info:
ROM Version 1.13.401.0 (20428)ITA
ROM Date 10/25/08
Radio Version 1.09.25.14
Protocol Version: 52.49a.25.26W
This device ABSOLUTELY need to be upgraded to the Rom 1.56 (but first of all I WANT TO UNBRAND it).
After an initial problem (caused by the unricognized S/N), I dowloaded (using another S/N) from Htc the File:
RUU_BlackStone_HTC_ITA_1.56.408.0_Radio_52.62.25.34_1.13.25.24_Ship.exe
To upgrade my device, I want to preserve only the country and the language, because I read that it is necessary to preserve the A-Gps funtionalities (data changes country by coutry). Is it thrue?
I understood that I can't use it, cause the Tim brand of my device.
In my case only the brand is not matching, while the language and country are apparentely matching.
(But, why the "401" of my device is not matching with the "408" of file I downloaded? Can I use the file with this unmatching country code?)
1) - I have a great confusion on SPL, HSPL, SSPL, USPL.
2) - I have a great confusion because I not understood if Radio Rom upgrade and Rom upgrade are 2 different processes or not.
3) - Is the Rom version related (developed) for a specific Hardware version (as it is logical to think)?
4) - Is the Radio rom "country sensitive"? (As I think that each country have a different GSM Net).
5) - If want upgrade both radio and rom, what instrument exactely I need?
Please can you clear my ideas.... and doubts?
Thanks
Ignazio
Ok, you have managed to get an official HTC rom, you can also find some more here
If you use HSPL or USPL, this will allow you to flash the new rom. If you are intending on staying on the official rom, uspl will probably be the best option for you to use.
In response to your questions:
1) SPL - Second Program Loader is a boot loader after IPL (Initial Program Loader) often seen on smart phones and PDA's. SPL is similar to a BIOS in a computer and can be flashed and updated.
The difference between USPL and HSPL:
* HSPL is an user-modified SPL that you have to flash to your phone. It overwrites the existing SPL on your device with a "hacked" one so to say. It allows you to bypass the HTC certificate check and flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone. You only have to flash it once and then you can flash roms anytime.
* USPL is a temporary solution. It takes advantage of an exploit in the existing SPL and then loads a modified one to memory, effectively allowing the same thing as HSPL. However, since this is only memory-resident you have to do it each time you want to flash unsigned or CID-mismatching roms to your phone, because this exploited state is lost upon reboot. With USPL you must still have the right version of the HTC SPL that is compatible with the rom you want to use.
* SSPL is just another method of getting to change the spl and is only really needed if you experience problems using one of the other methods.
Hopefully this makes it a little clearer for you.
2) It depends. The radio is in most cases included in the rom. The rom you are looking to use included a radio. This is shown by the 1.13.25.24 in the name of your rom, so if you install that rom it will also update the radio in a single process. You can however also only upgrade the radio and then it is done as a separate process and will not affect the rom.
3) All the roms are initially developed for a particular hardware configuration I would imagine, but there are many fantastic chefs here on xda who take roms meant for other devices and are able to port some of the components to a cooked rom which can then be used on a number of different devices.
4) Yes, radios are country and area sensitive, so what works well for one person in a particular area would possibly not work as well for you.
5) You will need to use either hspl or uspl in order to upgrade your radio (if you are using one intended for an HTC). Some people have taken radios from other devices such as the Omnia, but in order to flash these radios you need to do a security unlock of your device and there are special tools that allow you to do this, but this is really only a last resort if you can't find an HTC radio that works for you.
The steps to follow in order to flash are described in the Dummies Guide to Flashing (see link in my signature) and if you have any further questions, please ask them in that thread.
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
hurricane3000 said:
Thanks for reply,
You cleared at least 70% of my doubts.
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Pleasure, so what are the remaining 30%?
Rom Problems..
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
thekingro said:
hi..
i got my blackstone from service today because they changed my mother board.now i want to change my room to be more faster and have that winmo 6.5..i have read a lot but there are to many informations to understand..can someone tell me pls how i can change my rom,from first thing to the last and for that what rom to download?
step by step links or something would be great..i tryed myself but there is to many information for me to now what to choose..
thanks and i am looking forward for an answer
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Read the Dummies Guide (link in my signature). If you have any more queries please post them in that thread as this one is likely to be closed down soon.
ROMS are a personal thing, so have a look at a few and read some of the more popular threads (ie the ones that keep popping to the top) and depending on the feedback received from users make a choice. Once you've flashed once it becomes addictive and you'll try a few before you find one that suits you.
another thing
after i follow all the steps from there all roms should work..after that finnishing them i start that rom update launcher that comes with every rom?
Continuing on Dummies Guide thread.......
As above, continue on dummies guide
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