Should I get a TyTn? - Tilt, TyTN II, MDA Vario III General

Morning all
I have been offered a swap for my iPhone for a brand new boxed Orange TyTn II and Im just wondering if its worth doing?
I have had previous windows mobile phones and do like the phones so I am considering the trade, I am currently on o2.
The thing is i have read all the posts about unlocking and flashing roms etc and im a little on edge about doing it myself as im sure i will break it lol
I would basically need to sim unlock the phone and remove all the orange software as I think it looks naff!
How much work is envolved in doing what i need and how long would it take?
Sorry if im repeating a post, im not the best at forums and get lost with all this info you guys have!
Cheers
Sy

Absolutely YES!!!
There is no contest. The TyTN II wins hands down!!!
Leave well enough alone. Perhaps get a sim unlocker. Just do a search and you should find something. But don't play around with flashing roms etc. You may regret it.
Use the HTC original apps which you will find on a sticky at the beginning of this forum.

You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps

I'm wondering if i should get a TyTn 2 now or wait for a Xperia.
Checked out the TyTn at a store a couple of days ago and i loved it, the only thing i didnt like was that it doesnt have a radio. Then i read around in this forum and came across the driver problems and the touchscreen bug and due to them i'm more inclined to wait for Xperia, but then i checked out Xperia's design and i didnt like the way the keyboard slides to, makes you operate the joystick with the right hand instead of the left and that's kind of uncomfortable.

seriously, who uses radio? I stream my Sirius satalite radio..
Sirius Pwnz AM/FM

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Audio said:
You'd be suprised how easy it is to Flash the Tytn II, the only things you have to remember is:
Flash Pof's HardSPL first,
Then Flash your ROM,
And make sur eyou have a Radio that is compatable with the ROM you've chosen (although if you have an incompatable radio, your device will still turn on and function, you just won't be able to use certain elements, calls/gps/etc)
Plus, you'll notice a MASSIVE speed increase when you've flashed to a new ROM
Hope this helps
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dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?

jonneymendoza said:
dont you need to CID unlock it first? what is this hardspl and what does it do?
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Yes you MUST CID unlock as well (unless it has already been done, which is doubtful if it is on Orange).
My advice...Before even getting the TYTN II, read the sticky's and Wikis in the upgrading ROM section at least 3 times over to ensure you have an idea of what you are going to need to do before even doing anything. when you think you understand it, read them again.
Then go ahead and flash any ROM you fancy and enjoy the benfits of the TYTN II voer the Iphone.
HardSPL is the replacement bootloader that allows you to install an non original ROM.

Im on T mobile and i hav heard that the ROM is not heavily branded. im just worried about bricking it. i already have the MDA viara 3.
reading this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=334679 doing hardspl, does that automaticly unlock the CID or is there another tool to do that? if so do CID unlock it first and then hardspl?

You will NEED to CID unlock AND HardSPL...Do not consider doing anything untill you are 100% certain of the steps you are performing and why, otherwise you will have a rather expensive paperweight.
EVERYTHING you need to know and more about Rom flashing is contained here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=369282
Seriously, ensure you read every link and sub link related to ROM flashing. Even make sure you read the "inspirational reading" bit, that will give you the confidence to try it.
As long as you read you will be fine.
When I was new here I spent 4 days solid reading reading and reading before biting the bullet and flashing my first ROM. At

Thanks for the advice. one small question. if i was to follow this guide : http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1790046&postcount=3 word for word i should be succesful?
there is one question i am still confused about and thats this hardspl/cid unlock. according to the Thread i linked, all i got to do is follow the guide from HTC Kaiser Hard-SPL v1 - CID Unlock & Flash any ROM to your device (4 free) and bam im ready to Flash the ROM?
also what are the major benefits of flashing to a custom ROM?
does the procedure from that last link above hardspl AND CID at the same time?

hi i managed to hardspl my device succesfuly. so im ready to install a new cooked ROM? what are the best ROMS out there that i can try. i have seen dutty's ROM that many have used and was wondering if thats the best one
Does the DUTTY rom improve the camera and video playback?

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Help flashing firmware

Sorry, but i am a newbie i just got my MDA, it sometimes freeze up on me, so i talk to a friend he said try upgrading the firmware, so i wanted to upgrade the firmware just dont know which one cause there's so many...i wanted Tmobile USA, with all of the Tmobile programs such as MMS, Tzone, Email basic program from Tmoile...thanks alot- looking for something more stable, maybe faster WIFI, bluetooth those good stuff any recommandation would be great..and another question when i TRY to flash the fireware will i lose all of the data or program like the spb, theme and whether program thanks again sorry for all the question but i know you guys can help
I am using Rom- 1.8.10.2.WWE
ROM DATE-12/10/05
Radio Version-01.09.10
Protocal version-4.0.13.20
Extrom version 1.8.10.104
Not trying to be rude, but you really need to spend a week or two reading the threads in the "Wizard Upgrading" forum before you even thinking of flashing your Rom.
FYI firmware is for cellphones, Roms are for Windows Mobile Devices.
As to which Rom to use, that depends what you're looking for.
You can go for the latest, the most stable, or one that supports a specific feature. Again this is somethign you really need to read-up on. If you are looking for a specific feature use http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php .
Honestly, you will gain speed and stability with any 2.x Rom.
To use one of the custom Roms you will need to CID unlock your device (search for it) first.
For your first flash you might just want to stick to an official Rom.
First, don't even think of attempting a CID unlock until you figure out if you have a G4 chip or not, unless you want to turn your MDA into a brick. There are other articles on the unlocking forums, as well as the Wizard forums that go into this in detail.
Until this is ironed out, I'd consider paying $40 to the guys at www.imei-check.co.uk. I've not heard any bad press about these guys, so if you want a SIM/CID unlock, go here.
If its freezing up on you, I'd consider backing your stuff on it, doing a hard reset, and restoring it. Make sure you have the data backed up (if ActiveSync doesn't have it, there are other backup utilities which can work well for your MDA you can purchase.) If you are getting freezes with just the factory installed stuff on it, you may have a hardware issue.
Lastly, quite a number of things can be enhanced/fixed without a ROM reflash, so unless T-Mobile USA comes out with new downloadable ROMs, I'd not worry about a reflash just yet.
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Sorry, but i am a newbie i just got my MDA, it sometimes freeze up on me, so i talk to a friend he said try upgrading the firmware, so i wanted to upgrade the firmware just dont know which one cause there's so many...i wanted Tmobile USA, with all of the Tmobile programs such as MMS, Tzone, Email basic program from Tmoile...thanks alot- looking for something more stable, maybe faster WIFI, bluetooth those good stuff any recommandation would be great..and another question when i TRY to flash the fireware will i lose all of the data or program like the spb, theme and whether program thanks again sorry for all the question but i know you guys can help
I am using Rom- 1.8.10.2.WWE
ROM DATE-12/10/05
Radio Version-01.09.10
Protocal version-4.0.13.20
Extrom version 1.8.10.104
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Sorry for butting in
Well i have this wiza200 tmobile MDA and would also like to Flash it because of speed and performance enhancement my question is when i flash a new rom will it make my phone again sim lock? because right now its already sim unlocked
my wizard came in with the stock rom any enlightenment will be greatly appreciated
Thanks

Can somone please, going to cry in several seconds

my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
jawnsixteen said:
my wizard is stuck at the ipl spl screen, i just tried to throm farias new rom on it even though it is cid locked (i used shelltool)
now this happened
ipl 2.26
spl 2.26
gsm 02.25.11
os 2.18.0.0
i dont even know how to enter bootloader mode, i searched the forums but its so hard to find things, im serious, it's a problem ive had before, any help and i would love you
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reset and hold the camera button,you will see a 3 color screen...connect to the PC it should say usb in the bottom of the device screen....now install the latest update from your carrier.
PS
for future reference if you device is ended CID unlocked you do not need to use shelltools...just use the update utility provided by the rom.
also this info has been posted 1 trilion times
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Its not that hard to look at the stickies (thats were the really important stuff is located).
Here's a great post for you to use:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and when i powered on it wasn't your rom it was the one i had on it before with some things different, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the shelltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
jawnsixteen said:
thank you faria, bwesty and mfrazzz. I got to the bootloader screen and reflashed it with the latest tmobile rom. I'm sorry ive been asking so many questions, but i've been getting some mixed answers.
like someone told me (ill give the link to prove it) that flashing the latest tmobile rom will cid unlock your device. Im pretty sure thats not the case. And faria i did your latest rom and it got stuck at 99%, and i figure thats because it's not cid unlocked
i did search the forums mfrazzz and it came to no avail. You're right, if i looked really hard i could have found it somewhere, deep in a thread, but what do you expect from someone who just thought he bricked his $400 phone?
there should be a section for itself titled "I just broke my phone, how do i fix it" And inside that thread there should be every way to fix every situation. And i dont mean buried, i mean in the first post. Just a thought, it would have really helped and stopped me from bothering you guys
But as for now im going to go to the sheeltool thread and see if they can help me, i still can't get that to work.
thanks again
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A really useful thread (besides the WIKI is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=298613 it, by the way, is the very first item on the WM6 forum, this forum has Dr. P's EXCELLENT thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=285435 plus other useful stickies) It seems that your phone is 'working' after flashing the TMo 2.26, the first thing you need to do is find out if you have a G3 or a G4, then CID unlock appropriately. Skip the shelltool stuff for now, if you don't understand what phone you have, you will be on the road to "brick city".
--M
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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CID unlocking (as far as I know) won't void your warrantee--at least it hasn't voided mine (TMo US), but YMMV. That said, it isn't a bad thing to ask for help, (cross posting is generally frowned on) we like to help people who aren't lazy or stupid.
When you do post for help, generally the more info provided the better, but I sense you know that. If your phone is a G3, I am not really sure why you are seeking help in the G4 forum....anyway.
IMHO, Faria's WM6 works really well, and I haven't had serious issues with it. There are others that love different ROMs or will cook their own, great! Nottoosmart has a good looking ROM (a Mun derivative ROM) everyone will have an opinion, I know what works well for me. So "what is the best"? Hmm Faria's WM6 (for me).
--Mark
jawnsixteen said:
demontefixo thanks for the quick reply
but, i do know things about my phone, i just have little questions that no one really explains throughly. I know i have a g3, i know about cid unlocking and how to do it. I've into the registry on both my (ex) tmobile dash and now the mda. I'm currenty looking for the best new rom that i want to flash, but i can't void my warranty and that's why im using shell tools. I've been reading this forum for quite a while, and i don't consider myself a newbie (i cant control what other people think) but i do need help on certain areas, and im sorry for even needing that
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While keeping your phone CID Locked does keep you from voiding your warranty in that respect, flashing a custom rom on your phone will technically void your warranty also (although unless do something nasty to it, you should be able to get it back to the official rom and with it still CID locked then you should be fine). Example: You flash the latest and greatest WM6 on your phone and then your USB connector breaks and your SD slot doesn't work. You now can't get back to WM5 so they will know if they look. Far fetched, but I'm just throwing it out that if you are really concerned about your warranty, flashing custom roms may not be a good thing. Don't get me wrong, I'm not trying to tell you not to do it, I'm just saying that doing pretty much anything in the upgrading and WM6 forums here is basically voiding your warranty. But I think in most cases, the carriers don't look that close.
And please ask for assistance when you have issues. There are so many posts though, its hard to tell who has really read and who hasn't sometimes. Just remember that the stickies at the top of the forums are your friends and there is really good info there to help you get unstuck (most of the time).
i love you guys

Scared to post but I am stuck must take your wrath

Aloha everyone,
I have tried to not post for about 3 weeks but I just can't move forward. I have read and tried to follow everything on the site but I am just confused. I know this is a developers site and I am very intimiated to be castigated by you guys but...it's the internet so what the hell.
I have found numberous instruction threads pertaining to updating ROMS on the Wizard. It seems that up until recently there was only one way to do things but now there are many. As I try to answer questions I come into conflict over which way I shoudl be heading.
I currently have a working WIZ100 that boots with IPL 2.21.0001 SPL 2.21.0lip with GSM 2.25.11 and OS 2.25.11.1. I somehow got to this point, I think by following the instructions to get hardSPL on my device and booting on startup. I did not know if I next needed to find a ROM and if so then how to get that ROM activated on my device or what programs to do this with. I know that the threads spell it out but the threads pertain only to direct assumptions; the assumption that my head is not in my ass.
I wanted to attempt to put a new rom on here, for fun and to play around with something new. Perhaps increase reliability or to get WM6 going. I am stuck now though. Part of me wants to turn back and load the original ROM from the HTC site and the other part of me wants to try a new ROM as I already have this thing booting to the 0lip SPL.
Is anyone out there willing to help me either via this thread, personal message or IM?
Since you have already installed Hard SPL you should be safe to go ahead and pick virtually any ROM you choose on there. I don't have a lot of experience with Hard SPL yet, except for installing it on my kaiser, but the one thing I would guess that you should make sure that the ROM you want to flash doesn't have would be an IPL/SPL update included. As far as I know, I don't think any of the public ones that you find on here have them but make sure you read the chef of the ROM's entire post to make sure. And, if you magically happen to find my ROM somewhere, which you shouldn't since I only gave it to 2 people to try, don't flash it because mine does include an IPL/SPL update.
From my best understanding you have already loaded HardSPL and now are CID unlocked. If this is the case then I would recommend going forward and flashing a new rom to your device. Just go to the Wizard Mobile 6 thread and find one you like, and flash it.
Simple as that.
I appreciate your replies.
1) I am clarified like butter! What program do I download and use to flash the ROM to the Wiz, this has been a source of confusion for me.
2) If I download and install the HTC Cingular ROM from HTC, will that overwrite the HardSPL and return my phone to Factory Default, including the radio areas? In other words do I rid myself of 2.21.0lip?
Thanks for not beating my head in...very polite you devs are...
I like beating people's heads in, and you are far too polite, that I am actually having a very slight guilty twinge! Damn you. I have a G3 myself so I cannot help much, however, I found this sticky which may help.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=332320
I do know that once you choose your rom, you open the folder and run the item marked as ruu.
Now if you only had a G3, then I could fry you like the noob you are.
I suppose at some point, I should make a point of reading/learning about G4's. I know they are a far different animal from my G3.
That's the reason I said not to flash a ROM that contained an IPL/SPL upgrade since there is the possibility that it may overwrite Hard SPL, although I'm not positive of that, but better safe than sorry especially if it it's not an official ROM that carries the correct IPL/SPL format for a G4. If it doesn't contain the correct format for a G4 it could ruin your phone. If you flash an official ROM though and it overwrites it you can always just reinstall Hard SPL again and keep flashing. I hope this makes sense.
As for the files you need to flash a new ROM, they're usually included with the ROM. If they're not then just let me know and I'll upload them for you.
Good that you asked before damaging your (expensive) device...
Every Flash version comes with a RUU (Rom Update Utility) you just run that proggy and it does the rest.
To make it easier, look for a rom that states it's G4 safe (no IPL/SPL included), so you don't have to mess around with the inner files. If you want to, begin your tests with the TNT series, the latest build, stated in my sig is G4 safe, after that you'll be able to know the initial procedure.
Good Luck.
Thanks for the info.
Do I execute the ruu from Windows XP or from the SD card ont he device?
Why am I have a hard time searching for and finding TNT 5.2.1921 TouchFlo ROM?
The rom update utlity gives me an error when I try to update. Should I try to do all this from the sd card?
Well, I am plugging along. I rebooted after an error 300 came up on the rom utility. Any suggestions for me?
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
If you have ROM on your desktop, Connect your phone to your computer via USB, open up Activesync, uncheck the check box in settings that allows USB connections. Make sure you have at least 50% battery, then put your phone into bootloader mode. (soft reset while holding down the camera button- keep holding the button for 5 sec.) a tri-color RGB screen should come up. This is boot loader mode. Then run the rom update utility program, and everything is automatic from there on. once it is done flashing the phone will restart itself.
Thresher said:
I found this thread, back in business, thanks for your help guys.
I guess my only unanswered question is...if I use the HTC ATT exe from htc.com will it kill the hardSPL and restore the computer back to normal?
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Try it and find out. I'd kind of like to know the answer to that one too, although my phones a G3 and already CID unlocked anyway. You can always reinstall Hard SPL over again if it does.
So this worked out well for me overall. Installing HardSPL to my G4, and then using a correct bootloader with the right ROM (to review).
I am having one issue.
I have the OEM ROM, however the RUU gives me an error. Is there a documented way to restore the phone to an original status? Is it even necessary?
I ask due to problems since my upgrade to the TNT rom. I am noticing a lot of missed calls and people have complained. Is this an issue with the 8125 and the particular ROM?
I don't know what to ask, or how to search for this. Thanks for any input you can offer.
Otherwise the TNT rom is awesome. I do miss the voice dialing though. Thats another search.
Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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Actually, that's usually an issue with your radio version. Try using either version 2.19 or farias 2.69 and see if that fixes your problem. You should be able to find both of them in the wiki and you may want to try both of them and see which one gives you the better reception because sometime one will work much better than the other for you depending on your location.
By the way, you don't have to be CID unlocked or have hardspl installed to update your radio so you shouldn't have an issue with the RUU giving you an error. If you do, let me know and I'll upload a different RUU for you to try.
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So the Rom is broken up into major parts. Those parts must ineract with one another, so that would be why my radio version may be at cause?
Yep. The ROM can contain the IPL, SPL, OS, Splash Screens, GSM (the radio), and extended ROM, any of which can be changed or upgraded individually without affecting the other parts of the ROM (for all intents and purposes anyway). That means you can change your radio version without it deleting all of your settings or your installed apps in your OS, etc etc.
Since you still upgrade each individual part using a RUU that is able to update any of the parts you still get a warning when you run it that it will delete all of your files, but as long as the update that you're running doesn't include a new OS you can ignore those warnings.
I decided to back out of the entire upgrade and move back to WM5 Official Cingular HTC ROM. I am stoked that I now know the full process of taking a G4 through hardSPL, ROM updates and restoral.
I was too scared to try any radio updates or fixes. Maybe when I upgrade phones I will come back to playing with the 8125 but for now, I just need a good functioning phone for work.
Do these Cingular radio fix cabs apply to a standard phone or only to upgraded ones?

What exactly is hardSPL? USPL vs hardSPL

I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
Essentially what you are doing is changing the Bootloader so you can install a different ROM regardless if it's signed.
USPL and HardSPL is a matter of having it done temporarely or permenantly.
USPL (temporary), is the safe route. This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL. So if you're not a big flasher, and thinking about selling your phone in the near future, then you might want to stick to this method.
HardSPL (permenant), is the only TRUE way of bricking your phone. You will flash the bootloader for good so that you can constantly flash new ROMs without having to worry about flashing your bootloader of making sure it's a signed ROM. For heavy flashers, like myself, this is the ideal route.
HardSPL is reversible, there are some threads on how to do that. If I remember correctly, you have to flash back to a Stock T-Mo ROM.
Some ROMs require HardSPL because sometimes the cooks use different methods to flash ROMs onto devices other than ActiveSync (which is needed for flashing via USPL).
For example, ttran001's Open Touch V4.0 Micro ROM flashes onto your device using your SDCard, the phone is never connected to you PC so no opertunity to USPL. If it was not HardSPL'd, the ROM would be rejected. If it was, the flash would continue flawlessly.
I hope this answers your questions, and please, if I got anything wrong, correct me.
Regards,
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5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Oh and from what I understand, installing those cabs wont hurt your device if you dont HardSPL. I believe you can uninstall them from the "remove program" which can be found under Settings/System/Remove Programs.
Everyone's allowed a Noob question every now and then I only know all this info because I read, so im sure if you read u'll be just fine.
nKiwan, thanks for quick and throrough reply
I get a little lost with this:
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This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL.
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what does that mean exactly?
perhaps I should start by asking the USPL acronym stands for - I've googled it and I couldn't find the right acronym.
From my understanding.. the only real difference (besides one uspl rom per uspl vs infinite - i'm still a little hazy on that) is that hardSPL allows for flashing outside of activesync?
thanks again... I swear I tried my best using the search function and reading
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device. This will temporarely change your bootloader so it will allow you to flash a non signed ROM, a.k.a. an "outside" ROM. USPL capable ROMs, are ROMs that you can flash using USPL, therefore, ActiveSync.
Well there are two differences I guess... HardSPL, basically, allows for flashing outside of ActiveSync; and will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
nKiwan said:
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device.
hardSPL.... will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
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Technically then.. I could also flash any rom as many times as I want using USPL as long as I run USPL.exe? I read the flashing guide several times. The only difference I found was that you run USPL.exe and it goes through a loader instead of just running the RUU flaser. Is that right?
i apologize once again if I am being incredibly dense.
thanks again for putting up with my n00bness
there ya go! you got it. As you become more experienced you'll start to understand the need of HardSPL.
I was once a noob myself, so i understand where u coming from . Just glad I can help.
Regards,
nkiwan - thank you so much for answering my barrage of n00b questions.
You have been a great help. I really appreciate it.
Wow I think this is the coolest thread I have read ...it is just awesome what the WWW has done for all of us and thanks for the info
Glad I can help
I can understnad the use of USPL but I would recommend the use of hard SPL if you are planning to flash multiple roms. Either way I think it is just a matter of whether or not you actually want to run the USPL everytime you want to flash a rom... Don't quote me on that.
Just to doublecheck myself....
If I use USPL method and hard reset my phone - will I have the stock rom or the flashed one?
if I understand correctly USPL will bring back the stock one after hard reset and HSPL the new one.
very sorry to ask this now..from what i get is there are 3 ways of turning ur phone from phone to super phone:
1. install .cabs
2.soft flashing
3.hard flashing???
am i rite??
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As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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I found this thread that you might find useful for the acronyms:xdasite.com/showthread.php?t=1104
Same was with me.....
three4seven said:
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Hi Brother,
Same problem with me i have also search every where but failed... no answer about Hard spl.Every body say do hard spl and search in fourm and so on. There was no proper guide what it is and how to do. i was really puzzel. Now i have come to know that axect what it is Hard Spl.
Hard Spl mean CID unlock. If you unlock CId of the phone its mean you have done Hard SPl. Without CID unlock you can not write ROM.
Thanks
Br Raja
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
Stargazer418 said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
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You can always check in the bootloader screen (the RGB screen).
Even if you have a 4.70.Yang you still need the IPL to be higher than 4 to flash custom ROMs. That is what is important.
If you ever see any of these number's change, Run the HardSPL folder again.

New TyTN II Branded, can it be unlocked and SW removed?

Hi all,
Just got a "new" TyTN II, and really chuffed with it, from having upgraded from the Hermes.
Only a few small probs...
Its locked to Orange, and its also running the Orange software.
Don't get me wrong, I'm happy with the phone, but would love to get some awesome custom roms on it, and actually reduce the memory usage by having no branded software running.
Can this be easily done? Or better to send off for unlocking etc?
Thank you,
PS, are there any cool apps / games for the TyTN II?
Hi all,
Just is there can be any movement on here..
Thank you,
All that is very well possible. Check out the stickeyd threads in this forum and subfora; all has been elaborately laid out there. Don't flash the rom until you have read a lot about it and know what you're doing!
Flashing isn't a problem, but its the unlocking part i'm concerned about...
I just don't know if I can flash a custom rom on without it being unlocked and debranded etc...
Or can I just flash away regardless?
Hi
Did exactly what you want to do yesterday you should be fine - just flash the rom you want onto it and all should work fine - I am in australia and I bought a UK Orange tynn 11
John
make sure you follow the flashing for newbs on the wiki. before flashing custom rom you need hard spl or you will brick the device. It also walks you through the steps required for unlocking.
setter said:
Hi
Did exactly what you want to do yesterday you should be fine - just flash the rom you want onto it and all should work fine - I am in australia and I bought a UK Orange tynn 11
John
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Thanks setter,
Did you unlock yours too?
Mines being used on Orange anyway, so no problem, just more for when / if i sell on...
I was more curious on the flashing custom roms on, Doing HardSPL isn't hard etc, nor is flashing, as i said before, I've done that before, wasn't sure on the unlocking!
play with it have fun and flash it when you think is time to..
search for supercid for kaiser, it is just as easy as hardspl and/or flashing new rom

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