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Which ROM and USPL/HSPL?

Need some advice please!
Just got a Touch HD which was locked to Orange, now unlocked as I want to be on O2.
Which standard (do not want a cooked rom yet) WWE ROM would you advise to flash, which would work best with o2? Is there a standard o2 rom ?
And, to get this rom on I will need either USPL or HSPL - which would you recommend? P.S. I'm on Vista, so is one easier to use than the other, or safer ?
Thanks All. Any advice much appreciated.

this has been asked a thousand times throughout dozens of phones... only one answer:
Try it out and see for yourself. Each one is different, so how is one better than the next? One rom might be less stable than another but could be due to hardware revisions in your phone etc...
HARDSPL / USPL - check out the USPL thread for an explanation of the differences. Again, it's entirely up to you. This is the information that I've searched and spent 5 minutes reading for you...
Hard SPL - more reliable, void warranty, flashing a permanent SPL
USPL - less reliable, no void, temporary

There is no English O2 stock ROM yet, so choose any of the HTC ones off the Wiki.
If you want to keep things stock, then use USPL, if you plan to flash lots of roms use Hard SPL.
Please take your time to read the stickies and wiki pages, all these questions have been answered before.
Thanks
Dave

FAQ: X1 RADIOs

Good afternoon, people!
Yesterday I wanted to renew my Radio firmware in my X1 and found a thread about new 1.14 radio. But I've got a lot of questions about how to do it and do I need to patch something, why do I need some dll's, what NK.exe patching is, etc. I've asked fards and he kindly explained everything(thank you again, dear fards!)
So now I just want to share the experience. Just to make some people's life a bit easier
Here it comes, the FAQ. It's 50% consists of fards answers and 50% of my knowledge. But my knowledge definitely owes this forum and fards
Q: What do I need to upgrade my Radio to the latest one? (it's for those who doesn't want to know technical details and wants just newer X1 radio, nothing more)
A:1. HardSPL your X1.
2. Go here and get whatever radio you want, but ONLY from "XPERIA X1 RADIOS" section.
3. Remember three things:
- FLASHING A RADIO SHOULD NOT DELETE/RESET YOUR PHONE INFO
- FLASHING A RADIO LASTS APROX. 1 OR 2 MINUTES ONLY
- YOU ARE FLASHING THIS RADIO AT YOUR OWN RISK​4. Go through one of methods below:
1) MICRO SD FLASH METHOD
FIRST:
- Charge Xperia X1 > 50% (100% if possible)
- Prepare a micro SD card: format to FAT32 with default block size
- USB cable must be disconnected from PC or power outlet (mains)
STEPS:
- Rename the radio file to KOVSimg.nbh
- Copy to micro SD card's root directory
- Insert micro SD card in the phone
- Remove and reinsert phone battery
- Go to bootloader mode (hold vol key + power key)
- Follow on-screen instructions
- When flash finishes remove/insert batter and power on
Not flashing?
a) Format another micro SD card (FTA32, default block size) and try again
b) Use the RUU method from PC
2) RADIO UPDATE UTILITY (RUU) FLASH METHOD
FIRST:
- Charge Xperia X1 > 50% (100% if possible)
- Be sure your phone is connected to PC
(XP: activesync, Vista: Windows Mobile Device Center)
- Win Vista: install latests .NET frameworks and WMDC 6.1
STEPS:
- Download the RUU FOR XPERIA X1
- Extract the RUU files to a folder
- Copy only one radio file to that folder
(renaming the *.nbh file is not required)
- Run Xperia X1 RUU app
- Follow on-screen instructions
- When flash finishes disconnect USB, reinsert batter and power on​
Q: Where can I view current radio version?
A: In Start->Settings->System->Device Information->Radio version.
Q: Where can I check and get latest radios for my Xperia?
A: In our forum's Xperia library at "III - TRANSMITTER RADIOS" section.
Q: What's the difference between "Xperia X1 Radios" and "RADIOS FROM OTHER HTC DEVICES", can I use it?
A: Just to make things clear: "Xperia X1 Radios" are taken from different X1 ROMs(so it's X1-compatible by default), "RADIOS FROM OTHER HTC DEVICES" are correspondingly from other HTC devices(so generally it needs things to be done with it to be X1-compatible). BUT there are already done those "things" with radios from different HTC devices(Hex-edited, adapted and tested on a security-unlocked Xperia X1) in our Xperia library, so those radios are already X1-compatible too.
Q: What radios can I practically(with or without damage) flash into my Xperia?
A: You always can flash your original(ROMs) radio. But to flash another radio(not from your current ROM) you need to change HardSPL on your X1 once. Then you can flash any radio you want, but with risk of doing much damage.
Q: Where 1.14 radio came from? Is this radio custom or "handmade"? Or it came from R3A? Where is it from and why SE isn't updating it?
A: Its from lantin american R2AA015 rom... Id expect a newer one with r3 when its released.
Q: What radio is the best one so far?
A: I think the 1.14 is the best radio so far, it is a bit battery greedy, but it does work very well.
Q: After I flash this radio(or the previous one - 1.11.25.76), do I need rilphone.dll to copy to my phone with R2A010?
A: Its not essential but as newer radios are released then different commands seem to added to the RadioInterfaceLevel hence RILphone so ireckon its a good idea.
Q: As I've understood, this rilphone.dll is not the same as patching radio and doing some magic with mysterious NK.exe, right? So even if I want to flash radio version 1.11.25.76, having version 1.06.25.29, I should change this dll? Where should I find it for any listed there Xperia Radios?
A: The rilphone is an translator from the standard windows RIL.dll to the new radio part.
as new radios come out they can (but not always) contain new commands, so it makes sense to use the new rilphone from the same rom as it has those new commands in it, so that the OS can make use of them.
This is why it seems it's best to use the same rilphone as the radio version. I'd imagine the rilphone would come with the rom that the radio was originally taken from.
For example the R2 roms have a new radio attached, so if you flash that rom you'll automatically get the correct rilphone.
Q: Do I need to make a hardreset after I flash the radio?
A: No, hard reset is only for full ROM not radio.
Q: I saw some info about mysterious NK.exe and some radio patching. Why do I need it? Only for making radios from another phones working with mine? For example, if I have Raphael radio and I want it to work on my X1 - I should patch it, am I right? But what if I have XPERIA X1 RADIO from this link? Should I patch it?
A: Patching the NK.exe is really for running unsigned Dll files and exes (from startup or during boot at least) as NK checks the intergrity of core system files I think.. It is just ones loaded during startup I think as When you're in windows the registry settings or certifcates (such as the ones skcert.cab installs) take over.
So you don't need it for just the radio part, but really for the rilphone.dll this stops it from being overwritten by the signed exisiting one in the rom. HOWEVER. using driverwiz (from chainfire) gets around this, as that prog signs the files with a "dummy" certificate, so windows recognises it's signed and uses it..
Most of the custom roms (even the ones that are done by people who don't know what they're doing and just press a button) should contain a patched NK as it's part of the kitchens. It's pretty much essential on a custom rom otherwise you couldn't add anything to it!

If you still have some questions and want more info, take a look at this Radio thread, it's "full of useful info" (c) fards.
And I think anyone can ask radio questions in this thread. And if anybody helps you - I'll edit the first thread and add there his answer.
P.S.: This is post is owned for emergency info

Nice one, thanks!

Q: Where 1.14 radio came from? Is this radio custom or "handmade"? Or it came from R3A? Where is it from and why SE isn't updating it?
A: Its from lantin american r2 rom... Id expect a newer one with r3 when its released.
You shouldt edit this the radio came from LatinAmerica LAM R2AA015
(1.03.947.15), extracted from it and uploaded by fulgore69..
Give some credit....
Also give some credit to Xperia Library to Gtrab
And of course to all forum
Just and advice...
Dont take it personal or the wrong way..
Just posted it here to keep this thread alive
Hope someone make it sticky
And i want to say great thread too...
Lots of knowledge in it....Keep doing it so well...

hope this post will help to minimize the ammount of ubiquitous questions
will link from the Library
Thanks J-pro

have any of you heard of whats a better Radio ROM for use in South east asia or maybe probably china. the new 1.14 ROM is fine on its gps lock. but i still experience signal drops which is extremely annoying. i would send a text only to find out the sending failed bec the signal dropped again. i think this is due to the fact that the x1 never really officially got into China. any suggestions?

hi..i have a question..could you please define first rilphone.dll,and what does it do?where can i download it?i have installed the latest radio (as of now) 1.14,where could i download the appropriate rilphone.dll for it..thanx,this thread i hope could answer most of newbies having their x1..

tranquil20 said:
hi..i have a question..could you please define first rilphone.dll,and what does it do?
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The answer is in first post, pay more attention please:
J-Pro said:
Q: After I flash this radio(or the previous one - 1.11.25.76), do I need rilphone.dll to copy to my phone with R2A010?
A: Its not essential but as newer radios are released then different commands seem to added to the RadioInterfaceLevel hence RILphone so ireckon its a good idea.
Q: As I've understood, this rilphone.dll is not the same as patching radio and doing some magic with mysterious NK.exe, right? So even if I want to flash radio version 1.11.25.76, having version 1.06.25.29, I should change this dll? Where should I find it for any listed there Xperia Radios?
A: The rilphone is an translator from the standard windows RIL.dll to the new radio part.
as new radios come out they can (but not always) contain new commands, so it makes sense to use the new rilphone from the same rom as it has those new commands in it, so that the OS can make use of them.
This is why it seems it's best to use the same rilphone as the radio version. I'd imagine the rilphone would come with the rom that the radio was originally taken from.
For example the R2 roms have a new radio attached, so if you flash that rom you'll automatically get the correct rilphone.
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i have installed the latest radio (as of now) 1.14,where could i download the appropriate rilphone.dll for it
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In 1.14 thread.

my bad, i missed that part,hehe. thanx bro 4 the answers

Correct me if i am wrong
But i think that you must have hard-spl your phone to flash any radio this include original xperia radios...
Actually you can only flash without hard-spl only if you flash the full original rom image that include the radio, os, splash1, splash2 and of course the corresponding original spl inside....
Q: What radios can I practically(with or without damage) flash into my Xperia?
A: You always can flash your original(ROMs) radio. But to flash another radio(not from your current ROM) you need to change HardSPL on your X1 once. Then you can flash any radio you want, but with risk of doing much damage.

Fulgore69 said:
Q: What radios can I practically(with or without damage) flash into my Xperia?
A: You always can flash your original(ROMs) radio. But to flash another radio(not from your current ROM) you need to change HardSPL on your X1 once. Then you can flash any radio you want, but with risk of doing much damage.
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but with risk of doing much damage??
what you mean damage? many cooked roms with our radio and if seperately i install radio what much damage for device? can you pls explain me
regards

newstar said:
but with risk of doing much damage??
what you mean damage? many cooked roms with our radio and if seperately i install radio what much damage for device? can you pls explain me
regards
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he meant "without much damage" it's a typo
However
if you install a bad radio then there's lots of things that can go wrong..

newstar said:
but with risk of doing much damage??
what you mean damage? ... can you pls explain me
regards
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I think it wasn't a typo. I wrote 'any' radio, so the risk does exist if it will be 'bad' radio, like fards said.
There is written which radios are good to flash, but somebody may get radio from iphone for instance(i know it may be impossible, but just for you to understand) and flash it in X1 without any chance for it to work. That's the damage. Flash only checked radios to prevent any damage. And as usual, you do it on your own risk.

WTF... when following your guide how to flash via RUU Update, my phone made a hard reset. But the newer radio is installed. Weird...

This seems to be a few stupid question that i cannot find answers to.
Why flash one radio over another? What does updating my radio do for me?
Also I live in the US and if i flash a radio will it change the 3g bands available to me?
Thanks.

well, this might be the singel most dumb Q but ayway; what does a new radio do? im new to this.

Well, so far as I know it affects the whole recieve/transmitter section of the phone. As in, phone, 3g/hsdpa, bluetooth, Wi-Fi, GPS, etc.
I am still running 1.10.25.18. I don't have any issues atm, but are people experience any improvements in later radios?

ty for that info. sonds like it would ock my world.
currently i have like the worse reseption/no reseption at my appartment and i live in the middle of a big city.

please upload radio update utility

sooooo where do i find the radio that i just flashed?

Another scream for help...

Hi,
I have my HD from march and being interested in WM6.5 and disappointed by HTC because they do not release an upgrade I decided to try some cooked roms.
I used USPL so that I can keep my original SPL.
I tried:
* Duttys WM6.5 Sense 2.1 Holy Grail
* Duttys WM6.5 Leo Holy Grail
* Topix HD
From the first boot I have noisy screen image with 4 colours or something .... but after entering in sleep mode and restore it recovers to normal "true color" until I reset the device. I can live with that but the real issue is that I cannot start my phone using the original radio neither with the latest versions I found for HTC HD. No error there, it simply stays off after I confirm that I want to enable the phone.
Also the device is hanging for very long time now and then and I have exactly the same problem/behaviour with all the above roms. I tried some fixes found in the forum but nothing works and I did not found anybody with the same weird behaviour.
I wand to recover my stock firmware but I found that even I brought mine from Romania it has a Czech S/N and HTC does not provide a stock ROM for this "v1.56.402 - Czech republic - not supported".
What can I do. do you guys know if I can get the original firmware from somewhere?
Thanks.

Obviously you havent bothered to read anything let alone the guidelines of starting new threads.
The answers are in the forum I suggest you take time to read and start by reading the forum guidelines and the sticky threads.
If you dont understand what you're doing then stick to a stock ROM until you do or you might brick your phone.

You say that you used uspl. Are you sure that it was successful as the symptoms you describe are typical when you have the incorrect spl for the rom you are using. After using uspl, what spl is showing in the bootloader screen?
Follow the steps in the Dummies Guide to Flashing and your problems should be sorted out.
If you still have further questions, post them in that thread as the mods will close this one as soon as they come across it (as explained by homer285)

you're ok as long as you can still go to bootloader mode, then go back to the uspl 2.5 guide here, FOLLOW INSTRUCTIONS STEP BY STEP
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=505377
and here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=462347
format your sd card using fat32 (full format) (if you are a frequent flasher I suggest you get a small capacity sd card – 1Gb - and devote this only for flashing)
rename the RUU_signed.nbh to BLACIMG.nbh and pair this with ROMUpdateUtility -(application file) OR BlackstoneRUUWrapper (whichever the ROM cook presents) copy these TWO files in your formatted sd card.
then using Digital Outcast's USPL GUI: look here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=508361
if you're using Vista see this to update your sync driver
http://www.modaco.com/content/windo...u-on-vista-it-can-be-done-the-ultimate-guide/
flash the ROM.
I hope I make the above clear to you.

suggestion: Read the howtos!
If I was you I would do like this:
- flash hspl.
- flash latest radio from memorystick
- flash any 23xxx-rom from memstick (miri or phamQ can I recommend).
Cant understand why you are doing it the complicated way... there are ways to recover to original-spl if needed. This is the easyest way to flash 6.5 and it is almost fail-safe.
good luck!

brumbrum said:
suggestion: Read the howtos!
If I was you I would do like this:
- flash hspl.
- flash latest radio from memorystick
- flash any 23xxx-rom from memstick (miri or phamQ can I recommend).
Cant understand why you are doing it the complicated way... there are ways to recover to original-spl if needed. This is the easyest way to do it and it is almost fail-safe.
good luck!
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dont add to the confusion, he is already using USPL, the SAFEST METHOD as stated by Dutty Throy, he even advocates this in all of his cooked ROMs
all he needs to do is to redo the steps again as i posted above.

Sorry for my panic post
Yes, after 8 hours of trying stuff I did not read post guide-lines but I searched all the internet and xda forums, tried all the dumb fixes for my weird behaviours without any success.
I am sure that my original rom it is not available and I call for help from people that have Czech S/N English version to extract the flash and the radio if it is no so complicated or if they have it as backup.
Actually I read every "flashing for dummies" posts and only when I thought I got everything I started to flash it.
I used the latest 2.5 USPL, the GUI one and also the command line from the cmd prompt so I saw all the output lines and there was no error at all. It is clear that the device was successfully flashed and I respected all the version requirements stated in description of the packages. The problem comes from some sort of incompatibility. The versions at boot is the right one.
The only wrong thing I did was after seeing USPL 2.5 coloured boot loader I go on with the tutorial which said to read on screen RUU instructions which said to connect with activesync and I did as they said and restart the device, cradle and continue flashing in which case the original SPL started and I got a flashing error on the desktop client but after restarting the device everything run normally with the stock firmware and I think I have a good understanding on how it work and I can say that that error does not hurt a bit.
I finally succeed, in the morning, to flash 6.1 vanilla topaz and almost everything works except the GPS module and I am investigating this issue.
It is clear that you cannot help me an my device issue related to WM6.5 roms are unique and I will investigate this on my own.
Sorry to everybody, again, for my wrong located post and have a nice day.

[Q] Please explain to me...

Hello everyone and sorry for starting a new thread with so many threads already about installing custom ROMs. So sorry again....
First of all I want to say that I have installed Saturday my first custom ROM.
1. I installed HardSPL
2. I installed ROM (I got an error first time because my usb got diconnected - tricolour boot screen and an error code - could not see it; second time everything worked fine and I have now a new great looking ROM
3. I did not installed Radio.
1st question: Do I have to install Radio everytime I install a new ROM or is it ok if I keep my old Radio? - the phone works just fine.
Second question: Do I have to HardSPL everytime I install a new ROM?
Please be kind and reply to my questions even if it must have been already posted in some thread.

rarely can i answer a question but yours are easy LOL
You don't need to do your radio because the radio you have is untouched by roms.
Likewise if you do a radio it wont change your rom.
Radio's probably will not make much diffrence.
Once you have Hard spl it is done.
You can then flash as many roms as you want , but Hard Spl is just once

No and No.

Thank you guys.

The radio is stored on a different part of the memory then the ROM, so it doesn't get replaced when you flash a ROM (unless the ROM specifically includes it, like the new "official leaked" ATT ROM). And custom ROMs will never include the radio, that I know of.
A newer radio version MAY get you better battery life or GPS reception. But it can be very specific to your geographic location. It your choice whether to update your radio or not, its certainly not required. If you want, you are free to experiment, as you can always go back to the old radio if the new one doesn't work out. The process for flashing a new radio is essentially the same as flashing a ROM, except the actual process if done very fast.
As already mentioned, you only need to HardSPL once. The only way phone will become SPL locked back to factory condition is if you specifically do so using the provided relocker program on the SPL thread (for instance, to return the phone for warranty repair).

[Solved] Installing a custom ROM / Shipped ROM

Hey my question is the following.
Seeing as the Interop Unlock doesn't work for any HTC devices older than version 7720 I'm gonna try the following:
Restore a 7720 backup onto the phone, hard reset it and entirely start over.
Thing is, I dont own a 7720 backup anymore and I really dont wanna try flashing myself.
Question: Can anyone upload his/her 7720 backup from a European HTC HD7 (I'm Belgian btw) so that I can try this proces and hopefully get the interop unlock done this way without flashing?
I wanna start all over for the reason that my phone is draining my battery faster than a $20 hooker when the Navy ships come into port.
[edit]: If I hard reset now it will show up as a Mango phone with 8107 standard on it, which is NOT entitled to be Interop Unlocked, till Heathcliff comes up with something awesome!
[edit2]: In case you still have your 7720 backup available from Zune backup at this moment, you can find it under
"C:\Users\[your username]\AppData\Local\Microsoft\Windows Phone Update", its the file that looks like "f3874e8d - c6f37f88 - c1504a27 - f0452346" that I need
[edit3]: I did read that backups are phone specific but it wouldnt hurt to give it a shot as I really dont want to flash
Any help / link to the backup is highly appreciated!

as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.

sh4d0w86 said:
as you, yourself, said... back-ups are device specific. so, not worth it.
if the reason you want to revert back to a previous version is because of battery...
01. why not try a different Radio?
02. why not reset?
03. maybe try a Custom ROM? ...though that means flashing.
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Well was worth a shot, what I had in mind that if i used that backup, I would have the stuff aka device of said person. Then hard reset and my system would be wiped clean, starting up with 7720.
01) I might try a different radio but I after searching a bit I found a few posts saying that the radio wont do much for the battery, well maybe a bit but not noteworthy.
02) I did try a reset, it starts up with 8107 then, and the battery IS fixed then... problem is, you cant interop unlock anything above 7720, which I kinda really need
03) I've read some tutorials about flashing a custom rom, and they all say to revert back to NoDo before even attempting it... thing is, I cant find any NoDo European rom (the links are dead). And even if I manage to find one (found just the one) its a branded one, while my phone is an unbranded phone.
Also that guide said in the comments that an unbranded phone is only flashable to NoDo with the goldcard method, which I'm not fond of using frankly.
So I guess I just have to wait till Heathcliff comes up with a way to interop unlock v2 mango devices
Thanks for your reply though!

01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.

sh4d0w86 said:
01. everybody gets different results with battery... perhaps your device would greatly benefit from a different Radio. the great thing is, flashing a new Radio won't touch the OS.
03. did you see the tutorial i wrote? link in my signature.
also, i fixed all the download links on the XDA Wiki Shipped ROMs page. link in my signature, as well.
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01) Ah ok, I might try the radio thing then, only difficulty is that there are so many and no real threads saying which one could be more beneficial than which. (I know much of this is based on the personal device instead of the OS)
Especially I just read that it wont touch the OS, which I initially thought it did in some way.
03) however I did see the tutorial and im inclined to try that as well. The only issue is that I would like to use the 7.5 shipped ROM if any but that leaves me with 3 questions.
--> I see the HTC HD7 non shipped ROMS section, seeing as I'm from Europe there is only one (the european one) non shipped ROM under Mango, are you certain that that is the one I need? aka does that work on my HTC HD7 for sure?
--> Which is the version of that Mango, is that the 7720 I asked in my original thread or is that an updated version, like 7740 or so? (seeing as it says "Test ROM")
--> Or would you recommend using the "Windows Phone 7 Unbranded ROMs (NoDo)" and if so, there are 2 European ones, seeing as I'm a total noob on that, which one belongs to my phone and why? (cause 1 says ROM 3.03 and the other 1.70 which is a huge difference but no clue in what.. :$)
Thanks in advance, the answers gotten have been very helpful so far!
[edit] The ROM I just asked these 2 questions about.. I'm sorry to say this but I can't download it for the simple reason that apparantly the download button wants to go to MegaUpload but that site has been thrown offline by the FBI as you propably know.

01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?

sh4d0w86 said:
01. visit the Radio Wiki page, instructions are there.
03. only use Shipped ROMs, not Test or Unbranded ROMs.
what is your device's Firmware revision number and Bootloader version?
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For the wiki link, I've found that and I will try this unless the ROM works, seems like a more permanent solution. Its propably some app using battery without me knowing so just wanted to perform a hard reset, which is impossible without my 7720 backup (for interop reasons)
What I didnt really get out of that topic and related ones refered to in that topic is if I pick a radio above the one I now have (the mango with tethering) for say a 5.51...radio from preNoDo, will I lose anything special, like the tethering itself or is that just a "title name"?
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But I have an unbranded phone, wont it be bad to put a branded ROM on there or will that mather be erased when I hard reset after putting the ROM on?
Or am I missing the whole point of Branded ROM here, I thought that had to do with things as if you were a AT&T user or Tmobile user or summit cause I am neither of the above. As I said, first time.
It's just that on some threads for custom HD7 roms I've read that if you have an unbranded phone and want to downgrade: "forget it". Which is exactly what I have imo.
Firmware revision number: 2250.21.51004.401
Bootloader version: 5.10.2250.0 (132968)
[edit] I am that far (I know it's yet to begin ofc) that i've finally started the download of "RUU​_Schubert​_S_HTC​_Europe​_4.05​.401​.02_Radio​_5.69​.09.29a​..." file (the only European file under Mango, 7720, the one above Ethernet Sharing)

01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.

sh4d0w86 said:
01. that is just a label really; informing where the Radio originated from.
02. 'Unbranding' is really 'Branding' to the Europe Shipped version. the Europe Shipped version, however, isn't set-up to a particular brand [read: carrier], therefore 'unbranded.' make sense?
03. you should be Europe branded... therefore, on that XSPL Tutorial, you should be able to downgrade your 5.xx Bootloader using Step 06's method.
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Ok, that does make sense. Way more than the information I read on several other topics, wherefor thank you kindly!
I shall take note of the 06's method to downgrade my bootloader.
That leaves me with 2 small questions, there's a little section called "if RSPL'd and HSPL is desired". I have no clue what that is, should I just follow the steps and do as it says anyways or is that optional (refering to "if desired")?
And secondly, "38. download ROM of choice. Shipped ROMs are available, here."
I am downloading "RUU_Schubert_S_HTC_Europe_4.05.401.02_Radio_5.69.09.29a_22.50.50.21_Signed_SCHUBERT_RELEASE.exe" which should be the correct 7720 ROM for my phone (hopefully?). By "ROM of choice", does that mean I can put Deepshining or NextGen+ on there as well or isnt that an option for my Unbranded HD7? (like they both warn for in their install tutorials)
Now that I think of it my phone is like you said Branded to Europe, which means they warn for "unbranded ROMs" like the one in your siggy's third link amirite?
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But that aside, I thank you very much for the help, it's highly appreciated, now lets hope my HD7 wont brick on me and I'll be a happy man *moves mouse to the "Thank" button*

01. RSPL is a temporary SPL, which reverts back to OSPL after reset. HSPL is a permanent SPL, which replaces OSPL. so, if you don't want to go through the hassle of RSPL'ing every time you want to flash a Custom ROM... i suggest HSPL'ing.
02. with XSPL, one can flash any Schubert ROM, including Custom ROMs, yes.
03. unsure what you are asking, sorry.

Basically what I was asking if flashing the Mango 7720 shipped ROM works, if I could use this method (seeing as the tutorial says "Rom of choice") to Flash NextGen+ instead?
Cause in that tutorial (could be the one from Deepshining too) there's a line that says if you have an unbranded ROM dont even try to downgrade the bootloader cause that'll brick the phone.
But from the info you just gave me I can make up that my phone's ROM is not unbranded but Branded to Europe or am I that far off?
(meaning that I can in fact downgrade the Bootloader and Flash a custommade ROM instead)
[edit] being this kind of a noob and all I kinda got what HSPL and RSPL does, but what is XSPL? You've mentioned it in a previous post in HD7 General but cant seem to find any down-to-earth info. Its not in the tutorial either, unless XSPL just means Bootloader 3.xx or 2.xx, then I got it
So if i want Deepshining (aka custom ROM) I need to do XSPL instead of RSPL or HSPL? (XSPL, for custom Roms, I assume... means I need step 19 instead of 06 or run through everything from bootloader 5 -> 4 -> 3 to get to step 19 aka XSPL)
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Summing up, if I want the 7720 mango I do step 06 and continue at 30.
If I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do step 06 -> 09 and from then on every step till the bottom? If that's correct I got the picture
(Thanks for the effort here btw)

XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?

sh4d0w86 said:
XSPL is basically ?SPL, meaning it refers to both RSPL & HSPL.
during the downgrading Bootloader process and the XSPL process, only Shipped ROMs can be used. only once XSPL is installed can Custom ROMs be flashed to your device.
does that answer your questions?
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Well now you see how much of a student I still am, but yes I think I got it
Refering to your tutorial, I see 2 scenarios
* I want the 7720 mango I do to step 06 and continue at 30.
* I want a custom rom for say Deepshining I do to step 06, then continue with 09 and from then on every step till the bottom?
If that's correct I got the picture and my questions are answered entirely

hmm, well, i haven't ever actually tried ansar's SLSPL before... so, i can't tell you what exactly to do after using it. maybe report back here after installing SLSPL, then i can guide you where to go from there?

Ok I will, I'll start right now and see where that brings me, starting off with step 01, downloading Task 29 and 00. Then the SLSPL.
Lets hope for a nonbrick

Ok, I now have
Os version: 7.10.7720.68
Bootloader version 4.5.2250.0
I assume I continue with step 09. in your tutorial if I want Deepshining ROM or stop if I'm happy to interop unlock my phone now and update to 8107 through Zune?

yep, continue to Step 09 on the XSPL Tutorial.

Okiedo, next step
Downloaded "Schubert_Europe_1.54.401.01_Radio_5.51.09.29_22.32.50.10U"
Did steps till 18.
Bootloader: 1.54.2250.0
[edit] nevermind what I wrote here, continueing with step 30 seeing as you suggested HSPL instead of RSPL seeing as I read that RSPL voids waranty or summit.
What is the difference "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG1_INSTALL" & "DFT_HSPL_WP7FG2_INSTALL". I know its Gen 1 & 2, but which one do I have and how do I check or is it just NoDo = G1 and Mango = G2, in that case I have to launch G2?

two rar files..? if referring to XSPL, only need FG2 aka the latest version.

There we go, HSPL3.1.2250.0
CotullaHSPL 0x07
So now I have the downloaded and extracted Deepshining ROM, I have "RUU_signed.nbh"
I run Task 29 or the ROMupdateUtlity.exe (inside the ROM) and that should be the end?
[edit] every time Deepshining comes up with a new rom or I want any ROM installed I have to go through all these steps again right? Or can I just flash another ROM on there as I desire, aka an updated version of Deepshining for example?