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hello all,
i love HTC software/ROM's (touch it from Itje), but have came across what looks to be the best software going, it is the HTC magic software, i am thinking to get rid of my xperia and getting the HTC, unless there is some amazing person who will be able to copy it to a ROM for our xperia.
have a look at following page to see for yourself:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html
thank you in advance
scorpio2008 said:
hello all,
i love HTC software/ROM's (touch it from Itje), but have came across what looks to be the best software going, it is the HTC magic software, i am thinking to get rid of my xperia and getting the HTC, unless there is some amazing person who will be able to copy it to a ROM for our xperia.
have a look at following page to see for yourself:
http://www.htc.com/www/product/magic/overview.html
thank you in advance
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This is a phone with Andriod (Google's Mobile Phone OS) as OS system, so impossible to run on a Windows Mobile phone ..
FalkenX said:
This is a phone with Andriod (Google's Mobile Phone OS) as OS system, so impossible to run on a Windows Mobile phone ..
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Rubbish.
While we might not be there yet there is no technical reason why this is not achievable. We don't have drivers and specs and the like that are needed to do the job properly YET. There is nothing which fundamentally makes running Android/Linux impossible other than current lack of information.
reborg said:
Rubbish.
While we might not be there yet there is no technical reason why this is not achievable. We don't have drivers and specs and the like that are needed to do the job properly YET. There is nothing which fundamentally makes running Android/Linux impossible other than current lack of information.
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Drivers and specs? Dude, please learn something about Andriod, its totally different as WM, so with a driver or some tweaks it is impossible to run on a WM phone, you would have to rebuild the whole os which isnt an opperation similar to cooking a rom..
have a read in the android dev forums. I think the SPL is different, but may be wrong. So i don't think it's as simple as just using an nbh (which is a pity).. The g1 is also a HTC device.. some of the guys on the G1 forums would explain exactly whether it was possible or not..
However there is continual development on building android for current devices, including a thread in this very forum.. See Xmoo for details..
Yeah, emulating another up-to-date OS...just think of all the the 15years old gameboy and NES-games that are still slow when they are emulated under Windows Mobile.
The only possibility would be to not emulate Android but boot it instead of Windows Mobile...but I don't think the hardware is built for this so you won't get everything to work as it's meant to be.
By the way...Android is ugly in my opinion.
i think it must be possible.....
cause the Magic has the same chipset like touch HD and so the hardware should be very similar.....
i know a guy who was flashing a symbian OS on an Sony ericsson W810i and it runs..... extremely slow but it runs.
i think the only thing would be the different display resolution...... and some driver things but i have no skills in programmng so dont ask me xD
Err...........
It is possible and even i the case of Vogue CDMA, most functions are working
Diamond and Raphael has managed to boot Android 1.0 and even get the radio working (though no bluetooth, wifi, 3G nor sound yet) so sending SMSs is possible and so is making calls, though you can't hear anything because there is no sound yet.
Blackstone also recently managed to fix the screen issue...
I'm sure there are more projects going on, but it's definitly possible to run Android on WM devices
Well I've got 1.0 booting on the x1.. Unfortunately I havent got the touchscreen working just yet... the onscreen keyboard does, not the screen.
I will work on it when I get a chance, but my linux box is at work, so experimenting is best when I get a chance there.
Screen colours are perfect, the screens still upside down though..
I'm still learning about how this works, but I'm learning quickly..
as to the talk of emulators, this isn't emulation..
I admit that I am a complete rookie when it comes to any serious modifications oh phones, but I have recently been diving in as deep as I can with the help of this great forum. I am curious if anyone thinks it will even be possible/easy to get the latest version of Android running on the Imagio (US Verizon) at some point.
Thanks
Why not just buy the HTC Droid Eris?
rjygraham said:
Why not just buy the HTC Droid Eris?
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Because I just bought the Imagio.
I'm sure once this beast is unlocked it will be ported over.
kaseapfe said:
I admit that I am a complete rookie when it comes to any serious modifications oh phones, but I have recently been diving in as deep as I can with the help of this great forum. I am curious if anyone thinks it will even be possible/easy to get the latest version of Android running on the Imagio (US Verizon) at some point.
Thanks
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Yeah, just hang in there. Duno why it's taking so long to get the unlock, but whatever........ It'll be soon and then it's bye-bye Verizon!!
I am definitely interested in this, but I also feel that the resistive touch screen will limit the touch functionality,
while its resistive touch, its extremely responsive. its very intuitive, it reacts when you want it to and never reacts to an accidental touch. i wouldnt let that hinder you.
i know they got android running on the omnia so i see no reason why it wont be running on the imagio. i started a thread here to try to collect some spl unlock information for newbies like myself, maybe we can figure it out sooner rather than later.
I would love this. I had one for my tytnII on AT&T. It would be even better now especially if we could get 2.1 running.
someone should cruz over to the blackstone forum and try the android build. It isnt a flash, you boot it from within windows.The imagio and the blackstone are virtually the same device.
Not really.
mallman said:
someone should cruz over to the blackstone forum and try the android build. It isnt a flash, you boot it from within windows.The imagio and the blackstone are virtually the same device.
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Actually you guys should Try the Topaz build. The Imagio is a different looking Touch Diamond2/ AT&T Pure. I doubt it will since you guys have a different size screen and mebe other Hardware changes because it's CDMA but you could try.
The Topaz Android does work on the Touch Pro 2. The Imagio could be considered the bastard child of the Diamond2 and Pro2.
nobody listen to this bs. only flash your phone with imagio roms. if you are going to run an enviroment, make sure it is for the imagio. the imagio might kinda look like this phone and act like that phone, but its not this or that phone. dont screw your device up. just hang in there.
You are a complete retard. Don't post before you research. Android on a Windows Mobile device does not require a flash. It is an image that boots up inside of WM and "kills" WM and boots Android. It causes absolutely no harm to your phone.
RESEARCH before you post your dumb idiotic ideas that have absolutely no base.
listen dumbass,
i told them not to use roms and various other crap made for other phones, because and i know this may come to a shock to someone who is an expert like you, but..............phones vary. why dont you do some research. start by googling "whats a phone" and then go on to searching "why am i such a dumbass"
yet again IMAGE not a ROM. If you start the IMAGE in windows mobile it will boot android. If you RESET the phone its windows mobile again..... No harm, no damage......
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=396782
http://www.androidonhtc.com/kaiser:install
"Installing Android
Currently, Android is booted from within Windows Mobile. It does not run INSIDE Windows Mobile nor is it emulated! An application named HaRET is used as a bootloader to REBOOT the device into Android."
Now I am sorry if I offended you and I agree people should not just go and put and ROM on your phone...
I am also not responsible if someone does mess up there stuff, precautions should be taken.
I understand how the whole android ordeal works, i was voicing concern over the fact that it says Kaiser. It doesent say WinMo, it specifically says Kaiser. I can only assume this is because it has not been tested for full functionality on other devices. While yes, I see no real reason why this shouldnt work, it truthfully may not. You and me both have been there man, you put something on your phone, it should work, it works, then suddenly your hard resetting. I simply dont want any newbies to start throwing stuff for different model phones on their device thinking its going to be fine. I was simply saying if it isnt designed for your model phone specifically, do some research, ask around see if someone has it working on their device.
Kaiser = HTC Kaiser which is a Windows Mobile phone.
*sigh* honestly, just forget it.
Americanmetal said:
Kaiser = HTC Kaiser which is a Windows Mobile phone.
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Just because it is a Windows Mobile phone doesn't mean it will work...
HTC Kaiser DOES NOT equal HTC Imagio.
The entire basis of why we are still waiting for ROMs on the Imagio is because it is a DIFFERENT phone model..obviously just because there is an Android build able to run on Windows Mobile doesn't mean we can just use it right off the bat.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=104666
case in point. this guy had to tweak it heavily and it still doesent work right.
why?
because its not a direct line. yes, kaiser= htc kaiser blah blah blah
but phone models are DIFFERENT.
whether its a rom, or a .cab, or ANYTHING if it isnt made for your phone, theres a good chance it WONT work. theres your proof. if this build worked on ALL windows mobile phones, various builds dedicated to specific models would not be around folks. thank you.
Hi all.
i am considering upgrading my TouchPro to a Legend on Bell network (Canada). Just wondering, if I just wanted to be able to use an app similar to WifiRouter (i hope this is free too), do I have to root my device?
I have not done rooting before and I generally have unlucky streaks when it comes to playing with gadgets (I always push until it breaks
So if someone can be so kind to explain the minimum steps needed to enable WifiRouter (or similar), it will be greatly appreciated. Else, i am considering just getting the Omnia 2 (running WinMo6.5), still might be better than my dying TP on WinMo6.1.
As a side note, don't know if it's just me... but my TP is only 18 months old, and it barely works now. Can't even run TouchFlo now, so i disabled it. I have dropped it no less than 5 times, so it might just be me.
Many thanks to all you people making this device exciting, making me wish i am not such an inept noob
Cheers.
Wow! I personally don't have a Vogue - i got a Diamond where i'm only running 2.1 (eclair?) - anyways can someone tell me why the Vogue can have 2.2 running with everything working (inc. camera) when the diamond can only run 2.1 without camera and only partially gps working?
I thought the Vogue was older than the Diamond and that it has less power and memory, but perhaps i'm wrong?
I'm curious, what makes the Vogue so good at running andriod when my poor diamond seems somewhat lousy at it? Why is Vogue the only winmo phone running 2.2 fully?
I'm so jealous on your phone *sniff* (but in a good way - not like i don't envy you froyo *pout*)
Fantastic dedicated developers.
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Hojou said:
I'm curious, what makes the Vogue so good at running andriod when my poor diamond seems somewhat lousy at it? Why is Vogue the only winmo phone running 2.2 fully?
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Don't forget the Kaiser and the Polaris who runs the same builds as the Vogue.
But if you can run Eclair on the Diamond then I suppose it wouldn't be that hard to make it run Froyo. Look at the changes dzo made to the kernel and libs in order make us go from Eclair to Froyo. There is propably a lot that can be learned from that. You'll find the repos here: http://androidhtc.git.sourceforge.net/git/gitweb-index.cgi?p=gitroot/androidhtc/bootenv/
As for stuff not working, like camera and gps. I suppose the development on your platform is a cooperative work just like on ours. The Kaiser GPS code sucked pretty bad when I started running Android (random kernel freezes etc) but I dug into it and managed to fix most of the bugs and now it runs pretty good. I didn't know anything about kernel development when I started but I know some more know and I had fun learning.
Performance differences can also be attributed to the fact that the Vogue only has to push half as many pixels (320x240 vs. 640x480).
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Thanks guys. I was suspecting something like this and i guess i'll have to live with that Cool work on getting Froyo to work on Vogue, all of you who contributed
Hojou said:
Wow! I personally don't have a Vogue - i got a Diamond where i'm only running 2.1 (eclair?) - anyways can someone tell me why the Vogue can have 2.2 running with everything working (inc. camera) when the diamond can only run 2.1 without camera and only partially gps working?
I thought the Vogue was older than the Diamond and that it has less power and memory, but perhaps i'm wrong?
I'm curious, what makes the Vogue so good at running andriod when my poor diamond seems somewhat lousy at it? Why is Vogue the only winmo phone running 2.2 fully?
I'm so jealous on your phone *sniff* (but in a good way - not like i don't envy you froyo *pout*)
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xdandroid has a 2.2 beta that should work on diamond (works on my touch pro), but the device support is another matter as stated above.
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Yay another crazy thread from Shadow_Android!
So how the title says what brought you to xda?
I'll start!
So one day while i was using my xperia mini pro it got really slow and hot i got mad and the phone suddenly rebooted
From that day and on it would happen like 3 times a day, it got really frustrated
At that time i didn't know about root and custom roms
After a few weeks i went to a party a my grandma's house, my cousin that know a lot about hacking asked me if i had my phone rooted and i was like "what the hell is that?" so we went upstairs to his room where he had his laptop and everything else
After a few minutes he got my phone rooted and he told me all the cool things i could do with it
the same day at my house i started looking for apps that needed root i came across some really cool apps with cool features like being able to change the font of the phone and the bootanimation and to be able to eliminate all the bloatware
I was really happy with my rooted xperia mini pro but the reboot problem was still there
my cousin had also told me about roms and all that crap but at that time i didnt pay much attention so in my search for making my phone faster i came across this site
I was really amazed of all the new features the custom roms had so i decided to try them out!
From there and on it was all about flashing roms and staying updated in the rom i used which was cyanocomb (really good rom)
After flashing my first rom i made an account so i could post my opinions and suggestions about the roms
After 7 months of using my xperia mini pro i sold it and bought a brand new g2 unlocked
That was my story know its your turn!
I started off on ppcgeeks forums back in the winmo days, cooking roms etc. I then made my way to xdandroid, then finally purchased a sony x10, joined xda in hopes of rooting it, sold the x10 and bought a stock DZ after reading I could sim unlock it myself! Haven't looked back since. Love xda, and love the development that goes on.
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Bought my G2 because at the time it was the best phone and had a keyboard. Knew about root and all that with my computer tech background but needed a reliable forum to get answers to harder questions. read for a few weeks actually before I joined and posted and tried helping ever since
For me it started with my first smartphone, the Sony Ericsson X2 (looks very nice, but the software... oh god) anyways, yeah just searched random stuff on Google on how to improve it, because this phone was terribly slow and had so many problems and one of the links just brought me XDA,
For me it was being on a G1 and wondering how to tweak it. A google search led me to a youtube video about Super D rom and within that video was a link to XDA. Ah the memories.
Sent from my T-Mobile G2 using XDA App.
I came here for the first time trying to put Android on my old T-Mobile Wing. Now that I have an Android phone, I come here all the time.
I originally bought a G1 and was fine with it for a while. At the time I wasn't very tech savvy, although I had built a computer, and had no idea you can mod it. I started reading Android blogs and started seeing these posts about rooting the G1 and doing all sorrts of mods on it. I soon found out my soon-to-be-brother-in-law, who was way more savvy, had a G1and had rooted his phone. So I asked him to root mine and he installed CM3.x, which was Cupcake based and was done by cyanogen himself as this was before the CM explosion, and showed me the XDA thread. From then I was hooked.
Edit: @G1ForFun, I remember using SuperD! That was a badass ROM with the memory hack!
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For me it was simply to see what i could do with my G1, tweaks and all that good stuff, I simply love to hack my phones, I dont post much i mostly read because my questions are always answered before i even ask .. this place is awesome man.. now I have G2 and im learning "ADB" and its a breeze.. these Devs are amazing and the community is so helpful.. My home away from home
Like some of the others I got a G1 and then found out that XDA was the place where everyone was tweaking it. Started with android 1.0 and enjoyed the build up to cupcake etc. First onscreen keyboard. Getting the video camera to work. Getting first multi-touch. Then getting Sense on the G1. I was addicted. Now with the Vision the scene is so fragmented with so many different android models. But I still try to keep up with what is happening. Can't wait for the attempt to get ICS on our handsets.
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I had a Tmobile Dash (HTC Excalibur) and WinMo5.0 was killing me. Google brought me here.
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I came here when I first had my now retired HTC Hero (GSM version) and was looking to get some extra performance out of it. As I am still doing now with my DZ, that meant installing some Sense-free ROM.
I first came to xda after trying to find some programs for my HTC diamond, and from when i came to the site i found all the customroms i could get. I had my HTC diamond for 2 years (still running android). But last year i found out that i needed a Android phone, with a physical keyboard. So i got the Desire Z, and its the best phone i've ever had.
First time login to xda bcoz i want to root my DZ. Got all the information & successfully root my DZ.
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I first came to xda when Cupcake was leaked (maybe ported from mytouch?) for the G1.
I actually rooted my phone solely for the virtual keyboard and the multitouch hack way back when you had to telnet into your phone to root. "wtf is telnet?!" I ended up figuring it out, and the Android community is now one of the best communities that I've ever been a part of.
The G1 days were awesome btw, when we had everyone working on a single device.. JesusFreke, Cyanogen, TheDude, haykuro, etc.
Wanting to know more about android and what I could do with it
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To learn more about android
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After having my G1 for a couple of months, I discovered xda by the search terms: hacking Android. I read up on rooting, appplying themes and installing custom ROMs for my G1. I learned a lot here at xda. Rooting an android phone makes everything so much better. I have always been a fan of getting more bang out of technology.
T-Mobile G2 | meXdroidMod GC AIO
First Android phone was the HTC Hero and I came here to get some optimized ROMs for it so it would run smoother. I've been here ever since, currently have a DZ, looking to upgrade soon again.
well, i remember that i googled a thing that day, i forget what the thing is, and MR. Google brought me here, then i found there are so many modules here and people seems to know a lot, LOL So come to Xda every day has become a part of my life
I was trying to root my DZ with some finnish instructions.
They weren't complete, so i needed to search for help