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Does anyone else thinks that BT headset sound is a bit tiny? There is no low frequencies present that makes sound a bit harsh. I am comparing it with HTC Excalibur and Trinity. Is there a way to adjust this parameter via registry?
Yeah i thought this....Ive been using my bluetooth stereo headset and ive also tried the wired headset.
Im sure this was the same on the tinity though wasnt it when it was first released.
Stereo headset works fine for me with plenty of Bass. It's a regular BT headset that I am talking about. Both Jabra JX 10 and Nokia BH 900.
i have jx10 and everything was great with regular phone conversations, even the voice button works.
i have not try the stereo bt headsets so no comment on the music side.
ID64 said:
Stereo headset works fine for me with plenty of Bass. It's a regular BT headset that I am talking about. Both Jabra JX 10 and Nokia BH 900.
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when you say stereo headset...do you mean the bundled mini USB headset included with the Kaiser?
Thanks
no i mean stereo Bluetooth headsets. my jabra jx10 is only mono (one side), some BT has 2 sides (L&R) stereo for musics.
Sorry yeah i misread the first post .
I actually thought though with the standard bundled USB headset the sound was a little tinny.
with my stereo DS970 (se) headset the sound is fine.....I was talking about the standard USB headset.
sorry guys misread the first post.
anyone have registry keys that can be tweaked to make BT mono sounds better?
Guys, this is the first HTC device with this kind of problem! It really drives me crazy. Am I only one who annoyed by this?
I'm having the same problem with tiny BT sound over A2DP. I'm using an i.Tech S.38 which works perfectly apart from the VERY low volume (volume sliders in actual programs and volume control on S.38 are set to full.). When I pair the S.38 with my laptop the volume is much higher.
Welcome to the club
We've already been discussing the poop out of this at
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=329270
Really unpleasant feature.
Anyone else the same experience? Contrary to almost every other WM device I have used in the past, the voice sound quality both on BT headsets and on parrot carkits is way below par. It sounds thin and metallic.
When using the speaker on the device itself (held up to your ear) the quality is excellent, so to me there is a major flaw in the the BT implementation on the Kaiser. The x7500 sounds way better, so it's not the OS itself.
Finally, someone else with good hearing
I have exactly the same issue. Even it's tolerable but is some situations it's very hard to hear the other party. Doesn't matter what headset I am using - Nokia BH 900, Jabra JX10 2 or Jawbone - they all sound thin. I really hope that there is something in registry that can be changed to resolve this. Or maybe a different DLL. In fact, this is the only complain that I have about Kaiser. I've tried this suggestions but none of them worked unfortunately.
Increase Audiogateway capability:
HKLM/SOFTWARE/Microsoft/Bluetooth/AudioGateway/Capability
(Dword:69)(Default is 37)
[I'm assuming this is a bitrate setting, but not sure how this differs from those above]
4-Change the Bluetooth channel from the default:
HKLM\Softare\Microsoft\Bluetooth\Device
From there open the subfolders and find those labeled channel. The DWORD key value is the channel number. Change the number to something other than the default.
[i've only tested up to channel 7 because I'm not sure how many channels there are. This seems to have improved issues with interference and intermittent drops, but these issues seem to have more to do with where the device is in relation to the headphones than anything else. You'll have to experiment to see what works best with your gear and environment.]
5-Increase the Bluetooth microphone sensitivity:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\Mic Volume
(DWORD:10)(Default:5)
6-Increase Bluetooth earpiece volume:
HKLM\Software\Microsoft\Bluetooth\AudioGateway\Spk Volume
(DWORD:10)(Default:5)
[again experiment to see what works best with your headset and environment]
Taken from http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/showthread.php?t=7715
Ouch. Just came out of an escalation meeting for which I was forced to use the TyTN II for almost an hour over my Sony Ericsson HBH pv705 headset, and I have to rephrase my first post.
The audio quality is leaves not just a bit to be desired, it is just blatantly bad!
That, I feel, is the only *real* letdown of the TyTN II
Have exactly the same issue here. Was using it today in the car using the Mercedes bluetooth kit, and the sound was very thin and tinny. On my Hermes the sound was full and fine.
It's like listening to one of those shortwave type radios
OK. Now we have to determine is that :
Hardware issue
or
Software issue.
I've briefly used one of the preproduction units back in June and as far as I remember BT was OK. But I can't be sure 100%.
Anyone still using pre-pro units? Please, check how BT headset sounds like.
I really, really hope that this is software issue. Otherwise I am afraid that I am not going be able to keep the unit .
Sorry to put this into the mix but I have actually superior sound quality using a Parrott Car Kit and a Motorola Stereo Headset as compared to previously using these devices with my Hermes device with the newer WM6 ROM's.
I have made no changes but just wanted to share my experience.
jcrompton said:
Sorry to put this into the mix but I have actually superior sound quality using a Parrott Car Kit and a Motorola Stereo Headset as compared to previously using these devices with my Hermes device with the newer WM6 ROM's.
I have made no changes but just wanted to share my experience.
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It's probably due the fact that car kit has already plenty of bass and stereo headset is using a2dp. My stereo BT headset sounds good as well.
Handset itself sounds good, wired handset sounds good. Again, I really hope that there is a way to change something in software that will fix this problem. i guess, we have to wait until device is in more hands and some hackers will find the way
In that case, my second addition to the mix to counter yours. Aside from my SE PV705 I also have a Parrot carkit (3200 LS-Color) and I have the same poor audio quality over bluetooth ...
bt
same here ,i paired it with my car and it's worthless..i can hear the person but they can't hear me.this the worst bluetooth phone ever.
dhopeton said:
same here ,i paired it with my car and it's worthless..i can hear the person but they can't hear me.this the worst bluetooth phone ever.
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Just damn! Flagship HTC device... It's better be software fixable.
Using Sony BT Stereo headset - quality pretty good - better than TyTN.
R
rakh1 said:
Using Sony BT Stereo headset - quality pretty good - better than TyTN.
R
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We are not talking about stereo A2DP quality. Again, stereo BT sounds very good to me as well.
nono - this is simlpy the voice call quality through these headphones - not using the A2DPprotocol - just headset protocol.
R
I use the Sony MEX-5000BT headunit in my car in handsfree mode. I've used it with both the Kaiser & Wizard, and I can't tell any difference in sound quality between the two phones in handsfree mode.
A2DP is a different story -- the Kaiser is much better.
I'm having the same BT issues with my phone. Voice quality on my original TyTN was great through BT. But with the TyTN II, it is sub par.
OK, this is rally confusing. As far as i know all units have the same ROM/Radio builds. Or are they?
Let's start to put numbers:
Mine
ROM 1.56.405.5
Radio 1.27.12.11
protocol 22.45.88.07H
BT is too quiet and tin.
ID64 said:
OK, this is rally confusing. As far as i know all units have the same ROM/Radio builds. Or are they?
Let's start to put numbers:
Mine
ROM 1.56.405.5
Radio 1.27.12.11
protocol 22.45.88.07H
BT is too quiet and tin.
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I have the same as above.
Same as above. BT sounds great with my Scala 700 earphone.
RonenB said:
Same as above. BT sounds great with my Scala 700 earphone.
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What type of device you have been using previously?
When you switch from handset to BT headset on the fly do you hear difference in voice quality? Doesn't seems like BT headset doesn't have the same frequency range as a handset?
Hi All,
I bought HTC Tytn II recently... It's rock.....
But i am very disappointed with the earphone quality of HTC... No Bass at all.... I am not saying mp3 playing quality is bad... I tried my motorola BT stereo headset and it gave me fantastic output with heavy bass..... So the quality of my HTC earphone is bad...
I found several earphones on HTC website.... can you please help me to find out an excellent HTC earphone which can give full Bassy effects.... or any other brand which haves mini usb port...... Dont want converters please.......
Thanks.
pda_crazy said:
Dont want converters please.......
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Why not? You are unlikely to find a decent pair of USB earphones IMHO.
I'd get a small adapter and buy some sure earphones for the best possible sound.
don't mean to hijack the thread but can anybody recommend a good bluetooth stereo headset? i want one that will be good with music and also allow me to make calls.
I am particularly looking for an in ear type earphone or a unit that allows me to use my own ear buds.
I've got the i-Tech Clip Radio (http://www.expansys.com/p.aspx?i=145553). Works well with the kaiser, got play/pause, next/prev, volume, and call buttons, bulit in FM radio, and allows you to plug your own earphones in as it has a 3.5 jack.
How is this unit for bass?
Also it looks just like the htc S100, did HTC rebrand it?
I listen to alot of dance music, and with Sony's EX-71s it does me fine!
Yeh, the S100 is HTC's rebranded version of the non FM radio version!
I also have the iTech clip (excellent unit with medium audio quality) as it can handle calls and lets you use any 3.5mm jack units you have but you have loads of cables about (use my B&O earbuds on that).
For genaral use and if I want to anser a call I use the Promate PM-2006 BT stereo headset as it is a halfway sized headphone with good audio quality and in call holding.
But for sheer audio enjoyment, I use my Creative CB2530, absolute bliss and can put most Hi-Fi's to shame.
SOZ, probably not what the thread starter asked for but WHO is gonna produce a GOOD set of headphones terminated in a mini usb? You will need the converter or BT (no converter at all!)
Every BT unit I have works seamlessly, no clicks, no splutters, no bad audio with my 'out of the box' non-carrier HTC TyTnII.
Damn, its either the beer or I should have been a salesman! Smiles.
There aren't any "best" headphones without using an adapter. If you want the best you'll need to spend you're looking at the Shure SE530 or go custom which is around $1000. It all depends on your budget.
ive got the Shure e4c's connected through an adapter and i can say you can't get better sound.. its so crystal clear, it sounds better than live people in front of you talking
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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Well yes to the pairing to two sperate devices, and no to the 'very good sound quality but aren't humongous'. The Promate PM-2006 headset is a 'medium' sized' 'medium to good quality' folding headset with mike. Pair it to both units then disable the function you don't want it to do on whichever phone (under BT settings). It will halt audio and answer the call from the other unit. These headphones were primarily developed to use with a BT mp3 players with capability to connect to your mobile phone but WM phones do both!
Using 2 devices at once with Bluetooth stereo headphones
LeShin said:
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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Look at the Jabra BT8010. They're a little large, but have the advantage of using it in mono or stereo mode, as well as connecting to 2 devices simultaneously.
Incidentally, Seidio makes earphones that end in the proprietary htc mini-usb format. Haven't tested them out, but they're the only other ones i know of that don't need a converter.
Another vote for iTech Clip Radio. Works awesome with my Ultimate Ears Super fi 5 Extended Bass buds.
I bought Kyocera from here: http://www.buy.com/retail/product.asp?sku=204239053&loc=111&pageFormat=20&rs=1&#cReviews
The best headphones I ever bought and have the most functionality. The only problem that some people might have is the look and size of the headphones. I have not charged the headphones for a month now and still running on standby.
- TKN
has anyone tried any Sony bluetooth stereo headset?
LeShin said:
ok, I've something else to add.....well asK
Is there any bluetooth stereo heaphones (with very good sound quality but aren't humongous so as to make me look like a Martian ) that can pair with two devices at once?
For example, I have two phones which support A2DP and I use one as my music phone (Nokia N93i) but also use the TYTN 2 as my business phone. What I want is to be listening to my Nokia N93i through the earphones, and If my TYTN 2 rings, the music pauses so I can speak to the caller on the TYTN 2 then revert back to listening to music back on the N93i.....
.....is this even possible?
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I think it might be possible using the Sony Erickson BT Earphone Stereo set. Check FleaBay... They got them cheaper than anywhere else. ( BT phone would have to be close to you, just disable the bluetooth on N93i, however The Sony Er unit has a 3.5 jack that can be plugged into the N93i, just marry the TytnII to the bluetooth)
If you marry to phones BT to the headset, and if you get a call from one while listening to music from the other, you will hear both the caller voice and the music at the same time. Jabra is one headset that I know of that can accept two devices, however when tried, I heard the device playing music however the music volume was very low while I talked on the phone. Not a great setup but might do the trick.
I've read plenty of threads on here about the bluethooth issue with the tilt/kaiser. I have tried a few bluetooth headsets, but they are not very good at all.. Please give feedback on the models you've used and if is good or not
Aliph Jawbone
lakrfan348 said:
I've read plenty of threads on here about the bluethooth issue with the tilt/kaiser. I have tried a few bluetooth headsets, but they are not very good at all.. Please give feedback on the models you've used and if is good or not
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This thread should be moved to Accessories.
I think the Aliph Jawbone is the best by far. Noise cancellation technology that originated in Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects. I have conversations while I'm driving and the other party has no idea that I'm on a cell phone.
Jawbone has received topnotch ratings in every review I've seen.
I absolutely love the motorola s9!
Jabra bt8010 is very good, but volume is low like others
I also recommend the BT8010 -- but wait until the weekend, as Fry's has had half-price weekend deals on the headset a couple times over the last month or so.
If you have Money and you like Cristal Clear Sound ... buy Sony DR-BT50. Its the only Bluetooth Headset with a Semi Profisional DA Converter. It works with 24bit and you hear the different!!!! 17 hours runtime is the next point.
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This thread should be moved to Accessories.
I think the Aliph Jawbone is the best by far. Noise cancellation technology that originated in Department of Defense Advanced Research Projects. I have conversations while I'm driving and the other party has no idea that I'm on a cell phone.
Jawbone has received topnotch ratings in every review I've seen.
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Concur...This is what I use and it works great!
I have the jabra BT620S stereo bluetooth headset...just got it and paired it up this morning...seems to work great, volume can get decent but not as loud as my wired sennheiser, hopefully i can find a bluetooth hack to boost it somehow
I use the S9 and they work great for me. I have a friend that can't stand them, I think it is pretty hit or miss on how they fit your head. Some people love em but I htink if you have average size head you are fine, too big or too small and they don't fit very comfortable.
The battery life on them is fine, I use em a few hours a day and I plug it in once a week with no problems.
The sounds quality is good and volume is ok but not as loud as wired.
the jawbone, is it stero? the one I glanced at only was bluetooth headpeice not a headset. did I find the wrong one?
Thanks for the input so far guys... But I'm looking for more of call volume and being able to hear nice and loud.. I need this more for work and really am not using it for music... I too heard the Jawbone was suppose to be good but the Tilt is bluetooth2.0 and the jawbone only supports 1.2 or something like that.
for some weeks i use this
http://www.accessoryjack.com/servlet/the-570/i.Tech-Clip-Radio-Bluetooth/Detail
and i am very very happy
excellent quality in music listening
good fm receiver
more than 9 hours battery and bl handsfree in one pack
S9 Is great, just bought a Jawbone...charging now
Love my Jawbone.
I have had very bad luck with the Jawbone. They seem quite delicate. I had one fail and a friend also had his fail. In addition, they are terrible in the wind. The other party cannot hear you at all if there is any wind, so use outside is limited at best. If you will only be using it inside, then the Jawbone is OK.
I recently got a BlueAnt Z9. It also has good noise cancellation technology, seems more robust, gets plenty loud even with tht Tilt and does not have big wind problems. Also, BlueAnt is continuing to refine the firmware and provides free update.
Ira
I use Plantronics Discovery 665 and it is great. AudioQuality is absolutely amazing. the best I've had so far. For stereo I use Plantronics 590E witch is also very good, but gives a little to much bass i think. That can be fixed by using PocketPlayer 3.51 witch by the way is the best musicplayer I've ever used on a pocketPC.
Just my two cents anyway
Moby
Yes I'm just using this inside with no wind.. I need one with the volume loud enough.. I just got the Jabra bt 8040 and the volume is so low... I will be returning this.. So the jawbone works...? I heard that the jawbone is only bluetooth 1.2 or somehting like that and the Tilt supports bluetooth 2.0.. I just hate having to try out a bunch of different headsets and returning them for another... I use it quite a bit for work, so need one with LOUD volume
BlueAnt Z9
I have a few headset's that I've tried with the Kaiser (running XDA V1.2 w/volume patches). I know I have more in boxes, but these are the ones I could find.
I purchased a BlueAnt Z9 because it runs BT V2.0 and it fits my ear better than the Nokia BH-900. IMHO the Z9 is clearly the better headset for volume on the Kaiser It's a bit tinny to listen to, but I can get the volume very loud with this headset.
I have tried the following 5 headsets:
Nokia BH-900, Wireless - Bluetooth 2.0 EDR, good volume and no cutouts
JawBone, Wireless - Bluetooth 1.2, low volume and background hiss
Motorola HS850, wireless - Bluetooth 1.2, low volume w/hiss
BlueAnt Z9, Wireless - Bluetooth 2.0, good volume, no cutouts
Sony HBH-300, Wireless - Bluetooth 1.1, low volume
My limited experience with headsets seems to show that BT 2.0 headsets function better with the Kaiser the BT 1.x headsets.
Anyone else find this to be true?
I've been using the Plantronics 665 for months and it's great. A friend has used his for over a year. It has good noise cancellation, good volume, and it is very light weight.
I use a Jawbone on my Wizard and now my Tilt. It actually has better sound on my Tilt now, and people I talk to have asked me if I got a new headset when I switched to the Tilt.
The Jawbone is better than the Plantronics 510 I had and the old Jabra 320 (I think, older version of what is now the Jabra 500) for me with sound quality.
I do a LOT of conference calls, and am on the phone for sometimes hours dealing with system issues. The Jawbone has been great. I have even walked out of my office and gone downstairs to the kitchen before I started hearing cutting out and realized I had left my phone upstairs (so the range is great with the Tilt).
YMMV, but I recommend the Jawbone with the Tilt based on my experience.
Jawbone automatic gain?
When I first hooked up my jawbone to my 8525 the first thing I did was turn on the vaccuum and was amazed that it actually did ratchet up the volume. Shortly after that, it simply stopped adjusting. Now on the 8925, no change.
Happy with the jawbone, but it certainly doesn't do well with direct wind though.
My last headset I loved was my Bluetrek G2, comfortable beyond belief! Did fairly well in the wind as well...
Is it possible to connect TWO bluetooth headsets (of the same make and model) And have the tilt recognize both as 1 A2DP headset? I like the Jabra 8010 headset but its a bit pricey
Easy answer: Nope.
And even if you could you'd have crap "voice" quality and not high quality audio.
K, i assumed it wouldnt be possible, but wanted to check. Thanks