Hello,
I´m from Germany, so sorry for my bad english.
As long as I´m sitting at home an my Diamond lies on my Desktop the Battery works good. In Standby there is enougth power for about 2-3 Days. But for example when I´m going shopping with my Diamond (not using it) the Battery goes empty very fast. After 3 hours it is nearly empty and this can´t be normal I think?
The phone is in standby in both cases? Any ideas?
Hm, maybe it's the temperature? Not sure how hot it is there, but it may be it being in your pocket and just getting very hot.
I'm not too good with ideas.
hehe thank you, but i don´t think so... it´s deep winter in germany i think it has to do with the sensor, if i´m moving my telephone in my bag? any iusses?
Do you get full signal when at home?
Maybe there is very little signal at some of the places you go to. That can also cause the battery to drain.
well moving around would mean it change gsm connection a lot more
which would use more power but 3 hours sounds kinda wild
unless it's running gps when ever you move around
do you have the device in your pocket? if so it might be getting buttons pressed and keeps switching the screen on and off. Try carrying it in a bag and see if that helps.
Thats it... i think my GPS is turned off, how can i see, it´s really turned off?
Yes i carry it in my pocket, but its in standby mode, display off and locked...
the signal @ home is okay... same thing everywhere else... for example @ work... while my diamond lies on my desktop, everything is okay... but if a carry it around, the battery goes empty very fast.
my diamond is about 3 weeks old and i have tested 3 or 4 different roms... always the same.
(sorry for my bad englisch again, i´m german)
Don't you have any apps using the G-sensor all the time? That would explain it, because it could do something when the position changes, which happen a lot while you are walking.
I think the only Programm which uses GPS is the TomTom Navigator... But it´s always closed...
First post for me so sorry if it makes no sense,
I read on a dutch forum that cold weather drains the battery far more then warmer weather.
Don't know if it's true or not?
Cold weather does indeed drain the battery faster.
Cold makes electrical components operate more effiicently. This isnt a good thing as it means battery power drains faster. If your phone is cold, especially outside you can expect your battery to drain twice as fast. Your 10 hours standby are suddenly only 5.
dannyoneill said:
Cold weather does indeed drain the battery faster.
Cold makes electrical components operate more effiicently. This isnt a good thing as it means battery power drains faster. If your phone is cold, especially outside you can expect your battery to drain twice as fast. Your 10 hours standby are suddenly only 5.
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but why the sudden increase? I mean I'm not having problems yet.
But I can imagine when you're working outside you're going to get issues.
And my older phones didn't make any noticable difference outside, I know the diamond has more electronics inside then my k800i from sony but when the phones in standbye all wireless apps off it shouldn't make that much difference should it?
Sry if my english isn't flawless I'm dutch and school was a long time ago
Hm, this may seem like a really really silly idea, but you could try something as like wrapping a cloth around your phone to keep it warm in your pocket/bag/etc and see how the battery life is.
Just an idea.
put it in the fridge and wait....
.... put your Diamond in the fridge and see if it drains your battery
then take your fridge outside and walk around and see if it gets worse
Without kidding: i went ice skating the last few days, took several foto's and video's and did not notice faster drain.
Hi,
just a proposal:
Have you tried f.e. with a programm like TaskManager (fdcsoft) to check whether there is some miscellanous cpu-usage?
Or maybe you can try to use the application 'nodata!' (see this forum) to first disable all not used connections and check your battery consumption afterwards with only the phone activated
Or - if its a gps problem - try to get the 'htc gps tool' (see this forum too) and check whether you gps is activated always
Hope s.th. helps (sorry for my bad english, but I'm from Germany too) - let us know
bye
Ralf
I have exactly the same problem!
I charge my diamond over night and its empty before the day is over!
I only make a few calls else its laying in my pocket locked with the ipod-like S2U2 slide thingy.
Frikin annoying
I use Nodata mms and 3g is disconected and i just bought a new bigger battery, same issue
Same problem here
I also have exactly the same problem as described by SaTanSJupp. Did somebody find a solution already?
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I've been researching this phone and I really like it so far, but I have a question about the battery.
I've read about the battery lasting something like 9 hours or so.. now my question is that 9 hours while constantly in use?
For example if I leave my house at 3:00 PM with a full charge hang out with my friends, end up at a bar at night, and I maybe talk for 20 minutes, send 5 txt messages and barely mess with the phone, will the phone dying around Midnight?
With that type of light usage it can last a day or even two deopending on how you config. & the radio you use.
The +or- 6-8 hours is with wifi, BT, 3g data usage, gps, etc...
I make it about half the day(5-6 hours), but I've got AgileMobile running all day using 3G connection so I'm assuming I'm running normally. This is greatly improved by switching off 3G(adds another 2-3 hours). I put maybe 15-30 minutes of calls on my phone a day, it's mostly a mobile web browser and instant messenger.
To get through a full day for me I charge the phone in my jeep while driving to / from work, and most days I eat lunch out so I charge it then as well.
Thanks for the replies. I will probably have all data connections turned off, and won't run GPS on days like that.
I really dig this phone, I just got a little worried about the chance that I won't go home after some heavy drinking and won't have a phone to use in the morning...
Also, I just read on a website review from Laptopmag.com that said "We left a fully charged Tilt on over a long weekend, and when we returned, the unit still had three out of four bars of battery life"... What do you think?
Well I think if you upgrade to wm6.1, you should gt alot better battery life.
I was sick (in bed most of the day) yesterday so I took my phone off charge at about 7am in the morning.
I sent some messages, surfed the internet with hsdpa for about 3 hours (and this is in a bad signal area, which means more battery consumption)
then did some wifi (20mins)
and a bluetooth recieve or two.
I just checked the battery level this morning (8am) and I still had 57% left. I was abit surprised because I thought it will have drained by now like it did with wm6. The point is wm6.1 has a lot better battery life. So for maxumum battery life you should upgrade.
Just my 2 cents
Battery life...
Hi I have had the kaiser for not long really... there's a neat program that tells you what is the drain, of the battery...
well if you are not touching it and not doing anything it drains about 6-10ma, so based on that yes, it can last for a looooooooong time, now when you call it goes to 200-400ma, so yes it drains more battery there. ( as you would think it would )
then again you can have the backlight to low, to use less battery, also, turn the screen off when not using it, and change the radio an a lot of hacks.
based on my experience using EDGE, the GPS, the screen, playing a game, sending some mms, and talking, it can really kill your battery in no time.
but you can also well get a car charger ( be carefull with those ) or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
I have seen people talking about a 3000mah battery so that could really drive the phone for a loooooooong time, better think about other issues, like how sucky the camera is... ( maybe with the video drivers we are wating for this will get fixed ), also well, sometimes the performance is not that good, ( also video drivers I think ), besides that, and if you don't mind like I do, to have to wait for a few seconds to get things going on, the phone is a real jewel, if you live life in the fast lane, well maybe that second to open the keyboard will kill you
TC !
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or a better battery, because to be realistic the one that comes default really sucks...
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which one do u recommend? also where can u find this battery?
thanks
^^
Seidio 1650 battery and the Mugen 1500 batteries seem to be good oem size batteries from I have read. THere is a thread on the Kaiser Accessories board about batteries.......
I had a similar experience with excessive current consumption in standby, likely caused by the GPS though it is off (see Post "TyTN II / Kaiser issue: GPS & battery drain").
Perhaps you should install "BatteryStatus". Make yourself familiar with the battery current display, and try to figure out how much power your device draws.
Another nice test is, switch all units off (phone, WLAN, Bluetooth, GPS, really everything). Make sure no program is running (TaskManager). Leave the fully charged phone alone for 5 hours or so. Recheck the battery capacity whether it dropped more than very few percent. If you do not need GPS frequently, you may simply try a soft reset. If you have interesting results, please be so kind and add them to the abovementioned thread, too.
BusterTyTN
Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
Is your battery draining fast?
Get a battery meter and test that because I had a TyTN that did that...
same here original rom wm6.1 NL
Noel M said:
Hi amigos:
I been searching around and I cant find a solution for this annoying thing .
If I connect to my 3G usign my kaiser for more than 10 minutes, the phone is getting extremly warm. I try to put the back light low but doesnt help. I'm usign Dutty 29 apr. Rom and radio version is 1.58.21.23 and I'm in Denmark.
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If I where you I would try a diffrent radio and check what aps you are running in background/prosseses. I often use my kaiser as an wifi router and I dont think you gets close to as warm as mine streaming and charging at the same time I abuse it so hard it resets itself, now thats hot hehe. Anyway, some radio are battery monsters for me, its just about to find the best one for youreself.
I have good experience with: 1.58.25.17 in Norway, havent tried it whit duttys.
If not you can try 1.65.14.06 and 1.65.17.10 wich dutty included whit the release.
To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
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To 2007HHR: Yes the baterry draining fast that is the worst part. what is the purpose for use a battery meter? Its going to solve my battery problem?
Raiisak I will try another radio, hope it will help me, I never experience a phone that will become warm after using it for a long time. Really annoying
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i only experienced this one time when i had my gps turned on for half an hour and my phone turned into a hot potato and battery went from 95 to 15 percent.
u have to realize though that the tilt is sorta like a mini laptop and it will start getting warm after some time unless u give it some rest.
Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
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Well I never experience something like it in a windows mobile before, I will be really interesting to know if this is a hardware failure. Have you guys experience something like this in other htc phones?
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Unfortunately this is almost unavoidable with lithium batteries. My HTC TyTN II battery gets hot while charging, and even hotter if phone is being used (voice or data). It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging (at least they have thermal control circuits, it could explode otherwise, lithium batteries do not like the heat).
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
Hi Vcespon:
THis is horrible, I can't belive with a advance phone like kaiser something like this happen. Is there any firmware that might fix this, otherwise I will thinking to change this phone, this is unacceptable.
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It gets hot to the point that the battery stops charging.
The same happened with my previous phone, from e-ten. A battery got very hot and damaged while talking for a long time. I have used my devices mostly as a PDA, for reading or playing music, but as soon as phone radio is on, it starts getting very hot.
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That's not normal. If it is the case your most likely have a hardware problem. Same to the OP.
Mine also got warm and was emptying the battery in a couple of hours once the radio broke down.
Other than this, the only cases where the phone will get really hot is when using WMWifirouter to route the 3G connection to WLAN and downloading a lot. Both the 3G and WiFi radios being on and working hard, plus the processor doing the routing uses a tremendous amount of power. But the device wasn't meant to be used that way anyway.
The GPS also uses quite a bit of power so if you have that on on you might want to try turning it off.
When just talking on the phone the device should get a little warm but no more.
The battery meter would show how much of your battery is being drained when idle... mainly shut down all applications and see what the reading is and that would give you an idea if the device is defective.
I can tell ya, mine gets HOT. I sent the first one back because I thought it was defective. Also with a couple different roms it makes no difference. If your using 3G, BT, GPS, or any combination of those, that SOB will get hot. If I'm charging at the same time, it gets so hot it shuts the charging proccess down. I have to hold it over a AC vent to cool it back down.
Over all though, the only complaint I have with the phone is the heat and battery drain issue.
dead phone or dead battery
Do not know if this where to post. But my TyTn stopped charging. The phone is completly dead. Right now I'm on vacation in a remote location with out any access to the local AT&T to get a battery quick. But the problem is that the battery is not taking a charge. The red charge light is not on or anything. I left the phone on the charger for two days and nights with no results. I ordered a battery but will not have it untill I get home in another week. I have Dutty's 6.1 5.2.19199 UC Compliant ROM on the phone and I've been using it for about 10 days now. Everything was working fine. The phone was getting warm during GPS useage and when charging. Right now I hope that its just the battery. But in case its not, I need to know what my options are. Is the phone dead? What other measures are there to bring it back to life? Thanks in advance.
I can say from my experience with a tytn and now a tytnII when you use them rigorously , they will get hot. I guess the real question is how hot is it really getting and what is running on the phone. Is it uncomfortable to hold?
On EDGE data with FlexMail and IM+ online, the phone stays ice cold. On HSDPA the same, it gets slightly warm. When talking on the phone with HSDPA, it gets a bit warmer.
When using GPS+iGO8 or TomTom, it gets rather warm. Add charging and it gets pretty hot. I've seen batterystatus show as high as 42C using internal GPS+iGO8+Charging.
Gets hot + doesn't charge from laptop
I've got a similar problem - Kaiser may get hot when being used as a modem and/or charging...., well I've actually had this going on from time to time and wasn't much concerned about it until now: the battery doesn't charge when connected to my laptop - ActiveSync or modem, the amber light doesn't come on, plus drains fast.
The Kaiser(so the battery) is only 3 mths old (although I use it heavily as a modem) and I guess it's unlikely that changing the battery will help here...
My kaiser gets warm too.. I guess it's because I'm hot.
Never mind
HR fixed it...
You also have to remember that these things have a 400mhz processor in them without any fan. Now when your using that processor to the fullest, it IS going to get warm. This is what your going to get from any high performance electronic item without a cooling fan. It's not unacceptable, it's the way it is. 3G, bluetooth, and WiFi can be very processor intensive depending on use, imagine all 3 on at the same time, not to mention the added heat from rapid battery discharge (which is unavoidable when using the radio).
The designers of the phone are no idiots, they designed systems that shut the phone off if it's going to get damaged. So if your worried about the heat cause it's uncomfortable, don't work the sucker so hard! ;-)
Hi to all and thanks for the replies;
My theory is that if you buy an expensive phone you need to exploit until the limit. I bought the kaiser because is a phone that can give me almost any kind of connection and I can be connect online almost everywhere. I can't stand that If I use the 3G connection for 10 minutes the phones gets so warm. I use battery status too and the temperature is like 42F after I use the phone for 10 minutes.
Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.
Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.
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to clean the diamond threads up...this is just getting silly
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Yesterday I left the diamond on my desk. This morning it was dead. After some charging I could switch it on and as expected the battery was as flat as it can get. But why?! I'm sure I closed all applications yesterday!
Seems I got an very unreliable phone now... You never know if you can use it some hours later... Not really what I expect of a phone.
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Remember to close Data Connections from CommManager. And if you don't use WCDMA, switch band type to GSM (CommManager -> Settings -> Band -> Select your network type). Bad WCDMA-band signal eats battery like lion.
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Again a new thread which is completely senseless... there are many topics about the battery. Better to find a solution there, than to clog the forum with complaint topics about the same subject over and over again.
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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?
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As is your post...
I don't complain about short battery life! Less than one night must be a failure. I already have switched off 3G network and GPRS. I read some of the other battery threads but they didn't help me.
So what else can I do? Something is eating battery - but what?
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My post is in one of those useless complaint threads.
Your opening post seems more a complaint than a question. That is not useful. It would have made more sense to post what you have posted now: More information on what you have done so far, as well as ending the post with a question.
When you left the phone in the evening, how many bars were left (I mean the green coloured bars when you are in the energy settings). I have noticed that when there are only 2 bars left, the battery is already almost entirely flat.
How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.
How much battery life did it have before you left it on your desk?
I normally have to charge every day, as the battery life falls to approx. 60% after my moderate usage.
but i expect it should last about 1.5 - 2 days if i dont charge it.
ensure you have all the power management settings are enabled in 'advanced config tool' by schaps.
and ensure that you are manually configured to connect onto 2g.
Ok, you're right. I should have posted a question. Sorry for that!
The battery was fully charged. I just took it off the USB cord before going to bed.
3G is completely disabled on my phone.
Perhaps I should leave the device as I did yesterday evening and then watch whats happening. Perhaps an application pops up and drains the battery.
schaps: should one really enable all power management features?! e.g. "sd memory...", "async1..." and so on? They're all disabled on mine. Didn't read something about these options here yet.
Your answers are affirming what I thougt - it's not normal (even for the diamond) that the battery doesn't last a single night.
Hi
i am installed Beepes ROM
3G enabled - Batterie 100% after Night 86%
very nice
Yes 14% for one night would be nice. I have to wait for german roms to appear though...
I have read about some devices popping on when it is exactly 00:00. Not every night, but they've noticed once or so. No clue why it does this... maybe your phone did the same, and didn't go back to standby anymore.
Fully charged it should last 2 days using it for a few calls, sms and email functionality.
Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?
Is this maybe due to the google maps-bug? I've read that it doesn't close the gps port properly after use, and therefore the batt-troubles. To tired to find a link.. :/
I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...
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I've never used Google Maps.
But I had TouchFlo activated. Since I disabled it i didn't have battery problems...
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I didn't use the Google Maps either since the last hard reset. As the device wasn't hot all day long, I doubt if it was the GPS being on without me knowing.
However, I do expect it has something to do with one of the communication chips inside (GPS, WiFi, GSM, BT). Yesterday was the first night I have slept with the telephone NOT being in the flight mode. Normally I always use the flight mode so I can sleep without being disturbed. So possibly some 'bug' turns on one of the most draining comm chips for no reason at all.
Ofcourse I could disable the TFL3D, but then I will not know wheter it was really the solution. It might just as well be a one time thing...
@Murks-Muell...
Could this be punishment for me for the first few posts in this thread? Quite a coincidence!
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Damn... now I know how you feel. At this moment i have over slept almost 2 hours... The phone was 90% full when I went to bed, and empty this morning. No alarm for that matter...
This seems like some sort of bug indeed! Did anyone else have the same problem, and did you find a solution?
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you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).
Hornet331 said:
you disabled gprs auto attach?
this feature sucks a lot of battery.
i have tuned my diamond (stock german rom 1.37.407.2) that it needs less 10% over the night (note im only on gsm).
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Yep, GPRS auto attach is disabled. Even so, even if it was on, it should not be able to drain the battery that much in one night, especially when nog program is running! I also use the GSM band (not 3G). Any other night my phone uses virtually no energy.
Battery going flat overnight happened to me on ONE occasion.
After recharging and switching on I noticed that the screen never went off, and it seemed that the device had somehow unticked the 'turn off if device is unused for xx seconds' setting.
I figured my device had woken up for some reason (maybe an all day appointment with a reminder that triggered at midnight), then just sat there draining with the screen on.
Ticked the setting, no other changes and I easily get 2 or 3 days normal usage again...
I have had this issue the first night and this morning nearly again. When I wake up and I started Opera to visit a news site and I have read some articles the phone stopped. There was no low battery signal.
Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time
checking email regularly?
rumpleforeskin said:
Hi all,
over the last 2 weeks i have noticed my diamond getting pretty damn hot on random occasions and really chewing through the battery, i have run task manager when this occurs but no process is shown using alot of CPU.
I have read alot of threads on here descibing similar symptoms, some are just people who have wifi on or using CPU intensive applications, this i expect. But a few other users have described symptoms similar to mine where they are not using the phone and nothing appears to be running.
I am getting the problem with both my original HTC battery and the 3rd party spare i brought.
From reading the board the only definite cure seems to be a hard reset.
What im really after is any suggestions you people may have that can help me determin the actual cause of the problem, for example is their any software that will log CPU usuage over time or other diagnostic ideas.
thanks for your time
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Maybe you might wanna check if you have the automatic mail checking feature on? Because I noticed that whenever I let my phone automatically look for email quite regularly (i.e. every 5 or 10 mins) it drains more battery then when you set it to check email every 2 hours for instance. Well that's what has helped in my case...hope this helps...
I have looked at my mail settings and my mail checks every 2 hours, i have had it set to 2 hours since i had the device (6 months) but this rapid battery drain has only started occuring in the last 2 weeks.
In that time i have not installed any new software, so am at a loose end as to the cause of the trouble
Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)
costp said:
Hello,
I did had the same symptom : worked really good for 6 months (battery lasted for 30h +-) and in one time, battery was sucked out in 8 ! I did buy a new one (900mah) and it did the same. The only solution I find was to buy the 1350mah (htc) one and from this moment it last more than 2 days without any problem.
Also, I use G-light in place of the standard windows function and from this moment I really had a difference (from BatLog I went from 142mah to 123mah).
Hope it help (yeah I know: buying a bigger battery is not fun but for a device at this price, it's not so much...)
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thanks for the feedback, i will order a new battery and give it a try, at the least it will prove if the problem is hardware or software related.
today my phone still has 63% battery since i removed it from charge at 11pm last night. The fact that the problem is intermittent is making it very dificult to diagnose.
Today I noticed my wi-fi drains battery as hell, it was lie 60%+ of battery down in less than 40 minutes. In the past it was like 40% max. The PowerGuard's current meter did not show anything alarming. So the problem seems to be hardware.
Already backed up and hard resetted. The phone is under warranty and so is battery; sending it to service to get it fixed.
Or, I missed something and I can fix it?
Hey,
Yeah I'm currently experiencing the same problem.. I tired just about everything from battery fix cab, radios, to roms. I even got the orginal extended battery. The battery worked really well for like 2 weeks and then it started to drain really fast as well.. My cousin have the same phone as me HTC Diamond, and his battery is verry good.. It can last a whole day with heavy usage no problem. Where as my 1340MAH battery would only lask for 14hrs max with heavy usage, and when we switch the battery same stuff happens... His battery on my phone drains quickly and mine last long on his phone...
So I came to the conclusion that it's definitely a hardware issue.
For those without battery problem, how much usage do you get out of a battery and what kind of things do you do with the phone? I'm just trying to gauge how bad my batter is. It will last about 8-9 hours, but that's with hald of that time spent on the internet on either 3g or edge. I've only had the phone for about a week so it's hard for me to compare it to anything else.
other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds
One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.
jfran said:
other little things like disabling autobacklight and disabling 3G will help as well.
rgds
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a good tip to save battery power which is something we all have to do, but i do not think its the cause of my new found rapid battery drain.
The last 6 moths i have been getting around a day to day and a half rom the the phone. now on random occasions ot will get real hot (like the gps/wifi is on or like the cpu is flat out) and the power goes in a few hours.
this is fine if its daytime and catch it but a few times its gone from 100% to 0% overnight and i have woken late for work.
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One of the things you might want to check is if your phone is constantly trying to switch from 2g to 3g or HSPDA. This constant searching for a "faster" signal can make the phone quite hot and drain the battery quite quickly.
I had it on my diamond when I used to live at my old place as it was right on the edge of a 2g/HSPDA and the phone was constantly trying to get a decent HSPDA signal. The battery would last maybe half a day if I was lucky. Since moving to a decent 3g area, the battery now lasts me a good 2 days on nomal usage. This is with the original battery.
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interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion
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interesting, i will leave the phone on 2G for the next few weeks and see if i experiance the rapid drain, maybe i am on the edge of a 2G 3G nexus, as i do get a fairly weak signal here (2 bars 3G and full bars 2G)
thanks for the suggestion
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From you last sentance it does sound like it the 2g/3g switching that is cauing your problems.
i have this issue too.
my phone will drain ~5-7% every hour in standby. and when wifi is on it drains 2% every minute even staying on the home screen and me not doing anything on the phone.
from reading this thread, i can see that this is definitely not normal. looks like i'm headed for a dreaded hard reset...
Good day to all. At first sorry form my eanglish/
I have a same problem with diamond. It is overheating while charging at standby (battery temp. is about 50 C), and if it charges by USB, the battery temp is about 46 - 47 C. The phone's fly mode is switch on. HTC service couldn't answer me smth. But it says that same problem have 2 diamond from 1000, and only way to resolve problem is a change of mother board. in Russia it's about 250 euro.
And one more notice, which battery temp is 46 or 47 C, charging automaticaly switched off... Phone heating, but battery is not charging !!!
i've resolve problem...but don't know how i did it. I try to recharging stock acc. while 4 or 5 cicles, and today i have workable Diamond.
not discharge
not overheating
it's so strange, but it works
Hey guys,
I would like to make your situation easier, so you don't have to read like 1000s of forum threads to get information I'm giving you here. These are the issues I faced with my incredible s, and the so called solutions.
The device:
Stock EU htc incredible s/ htc droid incredible 2 on Gingerbread. NO software mods at all.
According to my knowledge the same applies to the htc desire s and the htc desire hd as well. Most of these problems come forward after updating to gingerbread. If you are still on froyo, I wouldn' recommend updating.
1st issue. High standby drain.
According to Currentwidget and battery monitor my incredible s doesn't have lower battery consumption in standby than 38Mah.
Solution:
Drain readings are corrupted, there is a bug involved.
In reality You only have around 5-6Mah drain in standby.
Proof.
Left phone in standby for 2 days without messing with it, ended up with 40% left.
So if you have a minimum of 40Mah drain for two days. (48hours x40Ma=1920Ma) The battery's capacity is no more than 1500Ma, so it's obvious that standby drain readings are corrupted.
IGNORE drain readings!
2nd issue: You take it off the charger and it's 95%
Some say that phone charges till 100% than shuts charging down till battery reaches 90%, than charging starts again.
Some say our Lithium battery cannot get charged till 100% which is normal. This is the reason our device doesn't show % in notification area.
Solution: Ignore battery monitor, use inbuilt battery charge indicator, and be happy.
If you want to test battery life, start test at 90% and your test won't be corrupted.
3rd issue: Dialer using too much battery.
This might to be a bug as well. Still to be confirmed. The dialer doesn't use that much of power it only gets stuck in built in battery use indicator giving false drain data.
Some say it doesn't stop using proximity sensor after being in a call, hence the big drain. Incredible s's proximity sensor is visible during call, check it in the dark, it blinks. After call it stays inactive. So the dialer using it 24/7 seems to be a false statement.
4th issue: Declining calls in pocket.
When taking or declining a call, you swipe vertically on the screen. If you have your phone in your pocket with the screen facing your body, you can easily take or decline some calls when pulling out. This is more likely if you have a pocket made of thin material.
Solution: Put your phone in your pocket with the battery cover facing your leg. Don't worry about bumping into like a table corner and smashing your screen. Our gorilla glass is almost indestructible. Using a pouch or cover does the trick as well.
Not sure why htc is so obsessed with the vertical answer procedure. With horizontal swipe we wouldn't have this problem and users have been complaining about this since the desire came out.
5th Issue: Wifi disconnects when signal low, but still would be fine under froyo.
Connection gets disconnected when signal is 86db or lower.
This is a gingerbread related problem, htc cannot do anything about it.
No solution just yet.
For those who complain about battery life, I am on gingerbread with loads of apps installed and with very heavy use 3hours of display, wifi, skype,internet browsing I can use the phone for 12 hours. With moderate use min 2 days.
Battery saving tipps:
-Don't let google and htc sync. It uses lot of data and battery resources.(I don't like my sensitive data to be copied on their servers anyway.) Sync with your pc regularly.
- If u use data for e-mail and weather sync, use Gsm only mode, you don't need that much of speed for those, turn WCDMA on if u need it for skype, etc. Hspda and 3g are big battery killers.
-Everything on manual sync. There is a sync all widget in sense to use. U can hit it anytime you want to.
-No live wallpaper
-Hotspot uses excessive amount of battery. Use it on charger only.
-Screen light to be turned down. Use Screen filter app nighttime.
-Turn wifi and mobile data off when not in use, so phone can sleep properly. (wifi timeout app)
-Turn off wireless network positioning.
-Keep bluetooth off when not in use.
-Select short screen timeout like 15s.
-Screen on time is the main culprit in appalling battery life. Use your watch to check time rather than turning the screen on.
-If u struggle to find 3g or Hspda for data or network itself, change provider, because no matter what phone u have, u will have this problem. Try to find spots in your flat with better signal for data. Searching for network uses a lot of battery.
-Try to charge your phone from 0% overnight with the phone off for a couple of times (8-12hrs)
-When gps is on it doesn't mean that it uses battery. If you see the sattelite icon blinking or just on, that's when it uses battery, a significant amount of battery.
-Consider buying the official extended battery available in US (droid incredible 2 2100Mah), coming to EU soon. I wouldn't recommend buying the unofficial ones just now.
Obviously if you apply some of these battery life will be better. If you apply all of them, battery life will be exceptional.
Hope I helped.
Have fun guys!
Hi!
Thanks you for this! I buy my incredible s a couple of days ago, upgraded instantley. I met most of these problems and now I am happyer with my phone knowing these.
Could you give link to the battery you wrote about???
i appreciate what you're trying to do - but if you are going to follow all those steps you might as well have bought a nokia 3210
"Use your watch to check time rather than turning the screen on"
i mean.... really??
As I said, you don't have to follow all the steps.
You might face conditions when you need every drop of your juice, so it's good to know how to get the most out of your battery, isn't it?
Sent from my HTC Incredible S using XDA App
IncredibleSSS said:
Hi!
Thanks you for this! I buy my incredible s a couple of days ago, upgraded instantley. I met most of these problems and now I am happyer with my phone knowing these.
Could you give link to the battery you wrote about???
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http://www.bargaincell.com/-p-509714.html
It's for the droid incredible 2, but thats equivalent to Incredible s.
Sorry if this seems sarcastic, but if you're gonna buy a smartphone and turn everything that makes it a smartphone off, then save yourself a few hundred quid and buy a Nokia 1100
I use mine to sync everything and anything I want, and don't worry about it, as long as it lasts the day, which it does, I'm happy.
Clivectmob said:
Sorry if this seems sarcastic, but if you're gonna buy a smartphone and turn everything that makes it a smartphone off, then save yourself a few hundred quid and buy a Nokia 1100
I use mine to sync everything and anything I want, and don't worry about it, as long as it lasts the day, which it does, I'm happy.
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you misinterpreted what the op said. He is just stating what you could do if you found yourself in a situation where you had to maximize battery usage. Obviously most of us are around an outlet or usb plug most of the day so that we can charge the phone often.
Thanks for the info OP. I just wish that current widget would show us the right info. Or some other app :/
Thanks for the info OP. My buddy has had endless problems with his Incredible. I'll Chrome to Phone this thread and send it to him!
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Thanks for the info OP. I just wish that current widget would show us the right info. Or some other app :/
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Its not the apps fault, the phone just reports wrong. So any other app should also fail.
@superman, perhaps a faulty app is causing the problems
Wifi issue should be resolved with the ota update.
However there is a network at my workplace which I couldn't connect to. I guess it is some kind of wifi repeater, it doesn't look like an actual wifi router. There is no cable connecting to it. Apparently I can connect but I get 0 signal next to it. Others can connect with full signal. Any idea?
RicarduZonta said:
Hey guys,
Our gorilla glass is almost indestructible.
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the glass on my phone broke on the third day falling face down from a a height of about 1 feet. so is it a gorilla glass or normal?
Not trying to be rude or anything but thought some other members would find what I have to say useful (I hope!)
Not everything you say is true.
RicarduZonta said:
Put your phone in your pocket with the battery cover facing your leg. Don't worry about bumping into like a table corner and smashing your screen. Our gorilla glass is almost indestructible. Using a pouch or cover does the trick as well.
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It is FAR from "almost" indestructible. Some people also say it's impossible to scratch it, yet mines been scratched (this AND nexus one) It's nice glass but indestructible? I think not, not even "almost"
Oh the guy above me also had his cracked!
RicarduZonta said:
Battery saving tipps:
-Don't let google and htc sync. It uses lot of data and battery resources.(I don't like my sensitive data to be copied on their servers anyway.) Sync with your pc regularly.
- If u use data for e-mail and weather sync, use Gsm only mode, you don't need that much of speed for those, turn WCDMA on if u need it for skype, etc. Hspda and 3g are big battery killers.
-No live wallpaper
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Live wall papers do eat your battery, but it's almost close to nothing. I've read that whatever uses more than 2% of your battery will be displayed in the "battery usage" I've used live wallpapers and it's never even shown that. (I think it also depends on what kind of wallpapers you use though.. let's say you had one that interacted with you) perhaps that might drain more battery.. but who turns on their phone to play with their wallpaper lmao
I've tested and disabling google sync barely makes a diff. I also don't think it uses a lot of data. I don't completely disagree with you though, manual sync is probably a better idea. On the other hand, I don't really think Hspda/3g are big battery killers, I notice that if you use the browser, the battery drops quick. Let's say you used "gsm" / "2G" and the webpage takes longer to load whereas 3G would have it loaded within seconds.. Which would waste more battery? I'm not 100% sure but I'd say just keep 3G and turn on 2G if you're not doing anything else with your phone. To my surprise, 2G is horribly slow.
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-Screen light to be turned down. Use Screen filter app nighttime.
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Completely false. This is only a cover on top of your screen. It doesn't change the power being outputted to the screen. If you look at what RogerProdacter is making, you'll see that he's trying to modify the phones brightness output.
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-Select short screen timeout like 15s.
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Disagree again. It's really up to user though, that's insane. I'd be pissed if my phone kept shutting off in 15s! What you can actually do is turn off the phone yourself or get something like Lock screen widget which instantly turns off your screen. Two reasons it's better - You don't have to worry about the timeout - you shut it off sooner than 15s.
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-Screen on time is the main culprit in appalling battery life. Use your watch to check time rather than turning the screen on.
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that's crazy.. You're saying that for us to check battery life/uptime we should use our watches? That's insane! That's a lot of effort to keep track JUST for your battery. Is it worth it? (I wouldn't think so.. but it's up to whoever uses it lol..)
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-If u struggle to find 3g or Hspda for data or network itself, change provider, because no matter what phone u have, u will have this problem.
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I don't know what kind of world you live in, sounds way too good to be true. Just instantly change providers eh? Where I live.. that's not really easy to do. I'm sure most people getting cell phones would have enough common sense to pick something that works in their area anyway.