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OK, been trying to figure out this ROM update hotchpotch for a while now, and while I have some better knowledge, some of it still isn't clear.
Before you say use the search, I have, but as I say, it's all so random and all over the place it's unclear.
OK, so I have an M2000. I am running as follows:
Operator Version 5.12.1.139
ROM Versn 1.12.22 WWE
ROM date 09/27/04
Radio Versn 1.04.00
Protocol Versn 1337.35
ExtROM Versn 1.12.139.WWE
BT v1.0.0 Build 2200
Now looking at what versions are available, this seems pretty old, right.
Now as I understand it, the ExtROM can be updated by unlocking it, replacing the files from the 1.31 archive, re-locking and doing a hard reset - then once it's booted it'll go through the customisation procedure like it normally does, only with the updated ExtROM (which I can customise/cook to what updates I want).
OK, so I understand that much - however...then I have a mismatch between ExtROM and Normal ROM, right?
ROM would be 1.12.22 and the ExtRom would be 1.31.XX yes? Is this a problem?
How do I go about updating the main ROM to 1.31 also? The same goes for radio and bluetooth. I know full well that my bluetooth is well out of date - but there are so many versions, most of which are unhelpfully named. One I see said 1.00.3500, which is what I hear is what I want, but what are all the others about?
Can anyone help put it into plain english for me, without saying "Use the search" or posting a link to wiki?
Thanks.
If you have a look at this thread, it gives you a process you can follow. It is for an older set of updates. But if you have a look on the FTP site and pick full update files with the 1.31 CE rom and 1.06.02 Radio rom, you should be able to follow it through.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=16251&highlight=
OK, i had a look through, and it sorta makes more sense, but the problem is the updates are so different I don't get it :S
For example, the file names on the ftp are so cryptic it doesn't help.
I have downloaded 1.33.10WWE.rar which is apparently a CE ROM from the SX66....
...however, I am aware the SX66 doesn't have a camera - does this matter?
Furthermore, in the bat file, there was a reference to an ms_.nbf file - I cant find out what this is. Do I need it?
I'm assuming nk_.nbf is the ROM itself.
Also, with regards to the radio ROM I have downloaded Radio 1.06.02 Edited for German Tmobile MDAIII.rar
What does editing it for German T-Mobile do? Does this have an effect?
Basically I could probably figure it out if everything had standard names. So far I don't think I've seen any naming conventions for the files, so I'm at a loss as to what I need.
OK, just found a useful page here:
http://en.pdamobiz.com/en/forum/forum_posts.asp?TID=154
that managed to explain it a bit better.
So, it seems that the ms_.nbf is essentially the extrom, yes?
So how can I take the ExtROM Orange_UK_SPVM2000_Ext_ROM_131124.zip
and use it as an ms_.nbf?
or have I got it all wrong?
I have just got that new O2 one that was released recently, but I don't want O2 stuff plastered all over my phone...
OK, as a starting point I just tried to update the radio rom to 1.06.02.
After getting a little stuck I managed it ok, and it seems to be working fine....
Now all I need help with is figuring out how to get the other 2 bits sorted. i'm not too worried about the nk file (although it would appear it needs a password, which I'm unsure where to obtain)
but this ms file has thrown me way off course. Would I need to say, use the O2 one, and then re-do my ExtROM folder with the Orange stuff?
Assuming your device has the 1.31 rom on it, and Radio 1.06.02 (as you say you have installed. Then it's pretty easy to update the ExtRom to the latest Orange one.
Install the Extended Rom Unlocker initially through normal methods, copy the cab and run - ftp://xda:[email protected]_1_22/Tools//xda-developers_Unlocker.CAB. Then under Programs/Extended Rom Tools, click uhide and unlock and do a soft reset.
Download the M2000 ExtRom from ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Extended_Roms/Orange_UK_SPVM2000_Ext_ROM_131124.zip
Go to the root of your device and into the 'Extended Rom' folder, delete the contents and replace with the contents of the zip file. Then Lock and Hide your extended rom and perform a hard reset.
If you haven't got 1.31 CE Rom, then you may wish to follow this method:-
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=95153&highlight=#95153
Perfect, brilliant. Will give it a try as soon as I have time!
I have downloaded this, and I would like to upgrade my qtek to this release. Can I just run the BaUpgradeUT or is there additional work that I would need to do. I bought it in the UK and its SIM unlocked. I have already upgraded the Radio ROM to 1.08.
my devicedata.txt reads as follows
PH20B 0 B WWE E DANGA001 1.22.00 0 0 1.22.162 1.06.00 06.00
NOTE: This was just before the Radio 1.08 upgrade.
What I can't seem to understand is if I need to do some cooking especially considering that my device is a QTEK and is WWE
I would appreciate your responses.
Hi NinjaMan. Where did you get this update? Please let me know how I can get same update. Thank you for you help.
[email protected]
Please browse the forum, it's all here...
To the both of you, read my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=18128
It's all in there...easy heh?
Frontpage, I downloaded it from the FTP site here, however there has been some problem were someone has accidentally/deliberately deleted most of the files. However I just tried uploading the file back but got an "Upload failed" error. Basically, I couldn't create a directory to upload to nor could I upload to an already created director. I wil try and figure out another way to get you the file.
HappyGoat, believe me, I have read that thread, and I have also read the wiki getting started, this is how I upgraded to the versions displayed in my signature. The reason why I asked the question is because I cannot see the answer in the WIKI getting started or in your thread. This could be because I am DIM, which I don't have a problem accepting. Nonetheless, I would appreciate some help even if it a yes or no to the question I originally posted.
If someone with more knowledge tells me if it is possible for me to just run the upgrade based on the information I have provided in my original post, the plan would be to install and give my feedback as to performance. I just don't want to do it unless I am confident it would work.
HappyGoat, if you know the answer then please share, if the answer is in the thread you posted perhaps you can point me specifically to its whereabouts in the thread. I can't see it
the complete kpn files are in the root of the ftp site
However i didn't manage to install using baupgrade.
There was a folder in extended roms with the extended rom files from kpn. With the util to unlock and unhide the extended rom directory on your pda you be able to delete the old files and replace the kpn extended rom files. After that you can do a hard reboot and you have the kpn version. However it is better to edit the extended rom files a bit if you are not using KPN telecom as provider because it has some setupfiles that auto setup to kpn as provider. GPRS and MMS.
Ok, now i need some help
I disassembled baupgrade.exe and RUU.dll
Anyone can help change it a bit so it stops checking language and provider ¿ I think only baupgrade needs to be changed because ruu.dll is th file that contain's the routines to upgrade and reboot and get pda info and place's it into bootloader mode.
Looks to me that the only real difference, is the Extended ROM version...and as you probably know, the Ext. ROM contains mostly files that are put there by the Telco's.
What is does read in the thread I gave you, is that MDAIIIuser pulled this complete package apart and we all agreed that the contents of the Ext. ROM version were not shockingly different to the one you have right now...
Additionally, you could end up with a phone with dutch settings, KPN spash, and other custom KPN/dutch things. So, in my point of view, it is not worth the trouble.
But technically, you should have no problem upgrading, as the KPN ROM is WWE as well.
Hope that helps.
And eh, what is a "DIM"...?
Thanks Vastloper and Thanks HapyGoat.
O.K if the Real difference is in the Extended ROM version, then you gusys are probably right - its not worth the trouble. I don't really have any issues with my current setup apart from some bluetooth problems.
One last question - Is it worth upgrading my bluetooth to 3900. What are your experiences with 3900
bluetooth
If your bluetooth headset is making crackling noise when it is away more then 20 cm from your device then it is worth upgrading.
You need the bt3900 upgrade
ftp://xda:[email protected]/BlueAngel/Bleutooth CABS/BroadcomCorp_BT1.0.0.3900.cab
After installing it you also need BA_OEM_AudioGW.CAB
http://forum.xda-developers.com/download.php?id=3320
this is for better audio.
Also, this is covered in several threads on this forum...the jury is still out as people experience different things for some reason.
Thanks Guys, appreciate your help. I do in fact experiencing the crackling noise, but I thought it could be to do with my BT Headset which is a cheap no name model.
I will give 3900 a go.
Thanks again guys
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/files/BA_TMUK_14200_112_11300_Ship.exe
Seems to have appeared as the FINAL offical release from t-mobile for uk users.
I've not tried it yet but the number does seem to suggest it is a slightly lower version than the Dutch one
EDIT MDAIIIUser
Added to wiki
no surprises
build of 2003se identical to Dutch rom previously released:
version 4.21.1088 (build 15159.2.6.4)
Extended rom just hasth changed regional settings (english UK default)
Added to wiki
Still a lot of echo.
Can't pair my Motorola HS820, BA sees the HS820, but error on connecting.
Anyone a fix for the echo and for the BT problem?
Use 1.40 before, was less a problem compaired to 1.42
Please help.
Regards,
Max
Report Back - T-Mobile Rom.. One week or so on..
Hi All,
Wanted to feedback my impressions of the new 1.42 T-Mobile UK Spec Rom..
Well, it's been interesting.. I now have (or have had) most of the faults that everyone else is experiencing.. I never used to get them at all with the i-mate 1.40 Rom or the NL 1.42 T-Mobile Rom.. I have listed the bugs below..
1 - One Hard-reset when inserted into GPS Car holder
2 - Several occasions where I've "lost" the Storage Card (when serching for it on the device AND through Active Sync)
3 - Interesting situation where I've started TomTom5 and I've suddenly had to go through the set-up process again only to be told that there's no maps (Can only attribute this to an occasion where the Storage Card is not seen by the PPC - See above).. Solved by remove Programs, soft-reset then re-install off SD Card.. (quite annoying as I was lost at the time!)
4 - Occasional failure for BT Headset being recognised on an in-coming call (I use the Logi-Tech Pro).. Solved by Soft-reset..
5 - Sometimes, after soft-reset, get a low performance from the Device.. ie, after soft-reset and switching to phone where it takes a few seconds to "build" the phone screen..
Strange but as I mentioned above, I don't recall getting these bugs on the 1.42 NL Rom or the i-mate 1.40 Rom.. I might try a hard re-set on Monday then re-install my tomTom, etc to see if it carries on.. If it does, I MIGHT switch back to the either :shock:
That's it really.. I have had the early T-Mobile 1.06, the i-mate 1.40, T-Mobile NL 1.42 and T-Mobile GB 1.42 and finally the WM5 Roms and from what I've seen, I place them in this order of preference..
1 - i-Mate 1.40
2 - T-Mobile NL 1.42
3 - T-Mobile GB 1.42
4 - WM5
5 - T-Mobile GB 1.06
Hi,
Updated to the dutch ROM, is better then this UK ROM.
Version number is also newer.
Regards,
Max
dazed and confused
sorry if I'm being simple but ....
I though this was the last offical rom
http://www.iris-global.com/t_mobile_download/download_manager_mda_com.html
MA_TMUK_11300_128_11200_SHIP.exe
Rather than
http://t-mobile.iris-global.com/files/BA_TMUK_14200_112_11300_Ship.exe
How did you maanage to find the link?
What is the diference between the builds - How can I find a change log?
What is the BA / MA?
:?:
See here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=31360
No difference in UK and NL Rom..?
[email protected] said:
Hi,
Updated to the dutch ROM, is better then this UK ROM.
Version number is also newer.
Regards,
Max
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Hi Max,
The Rom is exactly the same and the only difference is the changes in the extROM that makes it either UK or NL Spec (ie, MMS settings, etc)
Hi Starfish - Perhaps you need to look at this for the answers to your other questions:
http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BlueAngel_For_Beginners
Oh, and BA is "Blue Angel" and MA is the "Magician" HTC Names for the devices..
Sorry I did'nt read close enough Magican vs Blue angel
starfish_001 said:
Sorry I did'nt read close enough Magican vs Blue angel
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That's ok.. We all have to start somewhere.. 8)
Now, I'm not too sure how far advanced you are in Upgrading, etc but before you do, please remember the following that I put on another post on here..
MrPhilly said:
General Tips to you (and others)..
If you do want to update or upgrade then make sure you read everything through first.. Make sure you're happy in doing it.. Perhaps use the search function to read through others comments.. I would also recommend reading others comments about trying to downgrade from WM5 to WM2003SE to see what others have encountered
You will not believe the amount of people who end up posting questions when they've not followed the instructions from Wiki that I've pasted for you here..
Finally, if you are stuck, use the search command and describe your problem in the Keywords section, select Blue Angel from the Category and read through the posts relating to it before posting questions..
Hope this helps..?
Cheers!
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How can I upgrade to a stable rom
I have tried the TMobile NL and UK version both give the Country ID eror with the extra numbers 17-17-38-38-38
How can I safely upgrade to the 1.42 version (I have read the Getting Started With The Blue Angel) .
Is that the way to go?
"I get the password error on the xda3nbftool for the nbf segment"
I would like to get rid of all the phonesound failure and systemhangs with TomTom5.10
My Qtek9090
PH20B 0 B
WWE E
DANGA001
1.40.00 0 0
1.40.556
1.13.00 13.00
Upgraded to this from the last O2 update (my BA is an O2 Xda IIs), and while for the most part it works fine, now if the device turns the screen off for power-save while out and about, the GPRS connection drops. I know the hardware is capable of keeping the GPRS connection alive in such a situation because, well, it didn't drop it under the previous two O2 ROMs I ran.
Anyone else had this problem, or know a fix? Hopefully it's something simple that I've overlooked...
I'm getting better Bluetooth support with this (whether through actual improvements in the stack or through sheer dumb luck), so I'd prefer not to downgrade if I can avoid it.
Upgrade for NON OEM/Carrier Blue Angel
I have an unlocked OEM i-mate PDA2K. Because of this I am unable to install the T-Mobile upgrade to 1.42.
Is there a way to get around this?
I tried using the MaUpgradeUt_noID.exe, but I was unsuccessful.
Any ideas on how to upgrade a non-T-mobile branded blue angel?
Thanks
problems upgrading a non-t-mobile branded PD2K
BELOW IS THE SCREENSHOT OF THE ERROR
Did you make sure you had the MAUpdate file in the same directory as the actual upgrade had been uncompressed into? Since it's missing the RUU.DLL file that is part of that package.
Basically, get the files out of the real upgrade, then copy the MAUpdate into that directory, then run it instead.
I can not unzip or unpackaged the shipped OS
When I double click on the file, it runs the file, when you right-click and select extract, it gives you an error.
How do you unpackage the ship package?
Me, I used WinZip, I think it was.
Can not unrar or unzip setup files from exe package
the instructions states:
Unrar or unzip all files in exe or rar into a new folder. I get an error when I do that.
I also noticed that the instructions states:
First Method (Quick/Easy) (TYPE II), but there is another method Second Method (Slower/Harder) (TYPE I)
I am going to give that a try
O2 XDA IIs
Hi from Greece,
A friend bring me to Greece from Singapore one O2 XDA IIs but it has a old versions:
rom 1.31.00 wwe
rom date: 12/13/04
radio v:1.02.00
protocol version: 1337.32
ExtROM version: 1.31.920 wwe
sorry but I'm newbie here, can you tell me what (and where can i find) I must download in order to update to the latest versions.
I allready download the latest version from O2.UK for O2-XDA IIS but I do not want to lock my device to any network and that's the reason who asked you and I do not install this I allready download.
I allready see http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Upgrades but I don t now what I must download.
thk u
Hi all
I am posting here in the slightest hope that someone can help me out. In a nutshell I have a T-Mobile MDA III PH20B that has ceased working
I have tried hard resets but still have no joy and wondered if someone could help?
First off, on the back of the MDA once the battery is removed it shows;
Model PH20B
IMEI 35303000.......
When it starts up, in the bottom right corner it shows;
NO GSM
D1.06.00 ENG
If I choose START > SETTINGS > DEVICE INFO I see the following on the different tabs;
VERSION
Rom Version: 1.06.00 ENG
Rom Date: 08/05/04
Radio version:
Protocol version:
ExtROM Version: 1.06.117 WWE
IDENTITY
Model No: PH20B
Platform PocketPC
IMEI: (and no number!!!)
Problem is, the phone will not work following me trying to upgrade the ExtRom from the T-Mobile website (http://www.tm-phonedownloads.com/download_manager_mda_3.html). It now keeps bombing out out with an error message saying;
ERROR 120: COUNTRY ID ERROR n-n-38-38-38
The ROM image that you are trying to use is not designed to work with your device. Please check the vender Website and download the correct ROM update.
This has never been tampered with, has never been unlocked and is now dead as a dodo. Can anyone please off any advice on how I can get it backup and running? I am lost (no pun intended) without my Bluetooth TomTom and phone.
When it connects to its cradle, my PC can still see it, so I am able to copy files to and from it. Thats about all I can do with it though
frostie
Well it seems like you MDAIII has a corupt system and thus you need to reflash it.
Best option for you is wiki.
Go to the link in my signature and see if you can find a original version that you can flash it with.
The No GMS means that the radio part is corupt.
The 1.06 means that you have a OLD version of the OS as we are now at 1.42.
The fact that you can still copy files just proves that the device can be seem but without a radio it is not much of a phone.
The country code error you can get arond by using the MaUpgradeUt_noID.ZIP application.
In all you will find out most of what you need of wiki.
Follow the link for the radio upgrade to solve the NO GSM
Follow the link for the 1.42 for the os
And BTW wellcome to xda-developers (its your first post)
Cheers for the welcome. Yup, first post so had to make sure that I included as much info as I possible could to show that I am atleast trying to help myself :lol:
Thanks for the pointers. I will work my way through them and let you know how I get on.
Very much appreciated.
Backup and running
You want to know what the problem was? I feel ashamed :lol:
When it says Bootloader Mode - I got that far, but then pressed the on/off switch to fire it up again. I didn't realise the upgrade happened when it was a dark screen with just Serial or USB on it.
Shame!
Anyway thanks for your help as its back up and running, and up to date with 1.42 and 1.15 I also thought 'sod it' and have managed to make it SIM free too
Again, many thanks.
Well 3 posts later and you now have 1.42 radio 1.15 and sim free, thats wiki for you.
Now cook your extened rom and get rid of all the operator crap.
i need the TMobile_PL_MDAIII_WWE_12200_183_10602_SHIP rom...help?
almost impossible to find it, it is very old rom
Nothing is impossible
TMobile_PL_MDAIII_WWE_12200_183_10602_SHIP - I think this is the one:
http://www.zshare.net/download/220675884b91fb/
and PLEASE - give more meaningful names for the threads.
jakubd said:
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give more meaningful names for the threads.
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hehe sry for that i was histerical at the moment
btw jes i know it's an old rom, but im 100% shure it's a tmob003...
but not shure if its a pl or nl,so in about 2 min i'm gona find out
sry for my bad english...and many tnx from croatia
edit:
it look's like (didnt run th device info) PH20B 0 B ENG G T-MOB003 1.06.00 0 0 1.06.118 1.00.00 00.00(i' have the 1.06.00 rom...and i'm preaty sure that the radio was a 1.00.00)
it simply lost its rom(wtf??) and it has a id lock on it( so no tmobile uk roms and simular stuf...
well i'm gona try youre rom now...hope i finaly found what i'm looking for
rom update error...it starts to flash but spits out a error?how can i fix that?
You have to be more precise. Rom you asked it made for Polish edition of MDA3 (for Era GSM network; ROM is in english). It won't flash without "a bit of fight" on any other device (because of CID check - for this ROM I think it should be T-MOB009). I don't know which country had T-MOB003, but it wasn't Poland/Era GSM.
Please tell us, what would like to get, we will try to help you.
If you just want to know how to get rid of CID-check problem, read wiki. There is information how to modify ROM file to your hardware CID and also you can find upgrade tool that skips CID check.
t-mob003 is nl..99% sure...
PH20B 0 B ENG G T-MOB003 1.06.00 0 0 1.06.118 1.00.00 00.00
this shuld be mine?!?i tried to remove the cid...nothin hapend
its t-mobile.nl btw but youre ms_ work'ed thou
only missing a radio
Can;t you just use official shipped upgrade for Tmobile NL? it's really new (as for WM2003).
From Wiki: T-Mobile NL; WWE; T-MOB003; 1.42.00; 1.42.119; 1.13.00;
You have even the best (for me) radio 1.13 (newest is 1.15, but I had some doubts about this one).
Link here: http://www.zshare.net/download/22756005f8e7c9/
Consider also upgrading to WM5.
radio error...help? im on the end of my lat
What where and how can you see "radio error"?
Can you see version number next to R letter while booting? if not, use wiki and install one of available radio's update.
1.06.00 eng....
What where and how can you see "radio error"?
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after 7% of flashing...stops, and some error 120: radio flash problem...
all radios i'we tied didnt work...i found some i think 13 or 9 mb radios(lol) and not 4mb...they did work but cant find them again?!
T-Mobile NL WWE T-MOB003 1.42.00 1.42.115 1.13.00
anyone??
error 114: radio rom update error?!
help pliz
why does BaUpgradeUt recognize my roms but the no id dosent??
ROM version: 1.06.00 ENG
ROM date: 08/05/04
Radio version: 1.00.00
Protocol version: 1337.30
ExtROM version 1.06.117 WWE (anyone know what the WWE means?)
Bluetooth: BT-PPC/PE Version 1.0.0 Build 1900
this is/was my original rom!
Step after step:
1. Error 120 (according to google) means country error - CID lock seems to work, and yout device just seems NOT to be T-Mobile NL; WWE; T-MOB003
2. For error 114 just use wiki and try to go through procedure desctibed there http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_Radio_1.15_Upgrade and report results.
3. To load ROM to your device that isn't made for it, just use MaUpgradeUt_noID.ZIP (http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_1.42.00_Upgrade)
4. "why does BaUpgradeUt recognize my roms but the no id dosent??" - this I really don't uderstand. Both version can read the same rom files if this is what you ask. They just ned to be in the same folder as the exectuable.
1. look i'm not a noob...
2. i cant run the device info on my pda...wont start?!
3. i get the radio error after 7% of flashing
4."why does BaUpgradeUt recognize my roms but the no id dosent??" i can read or? sinply the no id dosent recognize my roms...
5. i even tryed to modify the roms via dos...
help???
1. We'll see ;P
2. You mean GetDeviceData.exe? Have you read http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=BA_GettingStarted Or you mean that device is dead and that's why you cannot start anything? Please, be precise.
3. This we know, but it doesn't bring any new info. We need error codes, anything.
4. "does not recognize rom" - but you mean nk.nbf files, or the device itself?
5. You mean you tried to modify device data in nk.nbf in command line (this is not DOS, btw) using the data you don't have (as I understand from 2)
SO: Please be precise and explain again now, what is the problem, step after step.
1. hehe you got a point there
2. yes i have red everithing! i can start cab-s...can run the unlock progi...but the device info not(and some other progs)...i can upload any ms-s!!!thats interesting!
3. i only get the 114 error 4 the rom...after 7%...so it starts...(on the pda is only the bootloader text) and no % are counted...my ges is that it only tests the rom...?! for the nk...after a while at 0% ist spits an error: canot upload ce flash rom...and so on...an the standard "do it again" message...(big help)
4. when i uload wit the no id another ms...i can see my ce flash vers...an the ms i want to upload...after that i have the ce flash and the ms...so that works fine?!
5. yes but i didnt say its dos...i sayd in the dos and not cmp im studiing computer sience thatfor i'm not a nob...and the answer is yes i tryed to modify the device info, language and operator...but had no sucses...atlest i dont know if i hited the ride info...canot upload over the maupdate...and the no id doesent recognise the roms(hehe now thats funny isn it?) =)
edit: a big sry on my english...its realy not my 1. language...my 2nd 2 its my 3rd...and i was typing damn quick...so sry 4 the problems...and a big tnx 4 the interest in solving my problem(didnt thank you 4 that)
poland mda iii rom anyone?
Still trying to understand what you wrote in the #18th post [approaching to end of point 2 ]
In the meanwhile link to polish rom you have... in post #3.