Have had this phone a day now (Touch Diamond with O2 front-end) and I have to say I'm not impressed. It requires the stylus for most operations and the Touch Flo seems hit and miss most of the time. I have 14 days to send it back if I want. A few other niggles like the fact it has locked up 3 times in 24 hours and that the screen goes blank are pushing me towards a return. I chose this over the Samsung Pixxon which was a bit cheaper.
I'm interested to know if you guys think it's worth dumping a new ROM on it and persevering. I heard good things about the HTC Diamond so I'd be happy to keep it if I can use it without the stylus for phone calls and have a nice responsive menu system.
Any idea if I can save the O2 firmware for dropping back on the phone if it is unsuccessful or do I need to commit to the ROM change?
O2 xda ignito
Hi, got my Ignito in December and had similar doubts to yourself. From the searches I've done no-one has posted an O2 ROM so if you flash a new one there is probably no going back (and I imagine a void warranty!)
However, if you search for available tweaks and fixes I've found the O2 ROM to be OK. TouchFlo responds adequately but not blazing fast, it has only locked half a dozen times or so, and if you change the icon/menu/border sizes you can do without the stylus for most things.
Suggested Tweaks
- Advanced Config
- Diamond TF3D Config
- G- Light
- GSen (only works intermittently)
- Second Today
- Total Commander
Dutty's ROMs FTW!
Go for a cooked ROM, and splat an official ROM back on if you need to return it. Stock ROMs are slow and way too buggy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411707
Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on..
@iain2510: Cheers. I'd like to go all the way with a cooked rom first if poss, but will bear your suggestions in mind if not.
@ruffage (or anyone):
"...splat an official ROM back on if you need to return it"
Where can I get this from or can I back it up myself first? If so how?
check my thread out
use the back up at your own risk tho!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430636&highlight=XDA+ignito
use the search function!
i would like to add if you have just bought the ignito then i would wait for the touch HD to come out on O2!
i am happy with my ignito now but looking forward to getting a HD for bettery battery life and improved signal quality (hopefully)
I have the O2, in fact we bought two for the office. I kept mine as I dont like the iphone, and one was sent back due to battery life and the general slow feel of the phone.
I kept mine and have been flashing duttys roms for a while, now on 3.6b and it amazing....I love the phone.
Stick with it!
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Hi
i currently own a Vario 2 from Tmobile, had it about 18 months now and more than happy with it.
The question is, is it worth upgrading to a Vario 3. i have read some of this forum and seems to be a lot of negative views on the Vario 3.
So should i upgrade or just sit with my Vario 2?
the only reason would be if you needed integrated GPS...
In any other cases : NO
I dont really need a seperate GPS as i have a full tomtom.
so i guess the vario 3 does not add much more to the choice then.
more ram, more rom, larger storage capabilities.... its not just the gps chip
I would agree on the whole stability issue. My hermes was a nightmare for the whole 18 months i owned it. Soft resets several times a day, occaisonal spontaneous hard resets, crashes for no reason, sleep of death, non-functioning touch screen...the list goes on.
But the tytn 2 (which i do own) is a crippled platform (video drivers) and you may well find that waiting for something like the imate 9502 (if it ever comes) would be better.
I just bought one (but didnt have the II before to compare) and I have to say its far surpassed my hopes and expectations... so far that is... lol... I did and do own an Acer N50 premium pda and that I had to soft reset often and while the screen was a little larger the III is more clear and vibrant... all in all you wouldnt be going wrong getting one.
Yes forgetting the driver issue the Kaiser is better phone. Like Mike said much better feel and more stable. The extra RAM was really why I upgraded from Hermes and I am happy with it over all. I dont want to bring the driver thing to this thread also, but I wish HTC would do something about these issues. These days putting a unfinished product to the market is one thing, but saying we aint going to fix this is another.
I guess it comes down to how much you would have to pay. If you get a good deal and good price from your old phone why not.
I only use the office apps email etc. I dont use the camera, play games, watch video or use even the gps.
My heavyest use could be like: writing a new email, Word and Ecxel open for copying something for the email and i get a call, all in the same time. This is when i dont want my phone to crash and Kaiser is been working great for this type of use.
tsadek said:
But the tytn 2 (which i do own) is a crippled platform (video drivers)
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Is it actually any worse that previous model in this respect though? As in, can it be lived with considering the fact you no longer have to:
tsadek said:
Soft resets several times a day, occaisonal spontaneous hard resets, crashes for no reason, sleep of death, non-functioning touch screen...the list goes on.
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Personally I would put up with lag to some degree if it meant I no longer had to soft reset several times a day and risked loosing everything with a random hard reset...do you know how long it takes to re-install and re-configure these blooming things!
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Ido you know how long it takes to re-install and re-configure these blooming things!
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5 Minutes to be exact. sprite backup has made restoring a matter of minutes rather than hours. I do alot of testing with my TYTN II being an MS beta tester plus beta testing for a few other companies I have to do hard resets to change configuration. I have about 6 different backups on mine used for different tests but to hard reset its a breeze. sprite backup is well worth using (plug not intended)
I've been using Vario II for quite a long time. I had only issues with TomTom on the stock WM5 ROM. From the first cooked WM6 ROMs I've been quite happy. Nevertheless, I decided to change for Vario III. And I don't regret.
It's slimmer, I do feel that 128MB Ram make a difference.
There are 2 things I don't like. First one, I cannot use it as a torch when goin down the stairs to the loo in the middle of the night and that ****e quality rubber covering the microsd slot. After a few card swaps it looks as if it had been used for a year, not 2 weeks. If it was made from harder plastic, everything would be ok.
Steve-C said:
Is it actually any worse that previous model in this respect though? As in, can it be lived with considering the fact you no longer have to:
Personally I would put up with lag to some degree if it meant I no longer had to soft reset several times a day and risked loosing everything with a random hard reset...do you know how long it takes to re-install and re-configure these blooming things!
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Its a tough one especially as i have a friend who owns a hermes and never has any problems with it.
Knowing what I know now I would probably not upgrade and wait a bit and see what appears in the next 6 months as well continue to pester orange for a properly functioning handset.
That said the Kaiser is VERY liveable with and does what i ask of it but the slowdowns are noticeable and quite disappointing.
I too have a Vario II from T-Mobile. Worlds worse phone by far. Mine's been back for repair twice. Keeps crashing, buttons lock up. Last time it went back because every time it crashed (twice a day) you had to reboot it. Then the alarm clock would go off for 40 minutes on vibrate and speaker and couldn't be stopped with out taking the battery out.
Totally fed up with this horrible phone. I was so fed up I put the phone in the microwave to trash the system board so T-Mobile had to give me a new one.
Got the phone yesterday and it crashed... pressed reset on the bottom with the stylus. This morning phones locked up again while selecting a ring tone. Argh....... I want my Nokia 9300 communicator back.
I'd love the Nokia E90. HSDPA and it has a good reputation.
I've an iPAQ 2790 with a 624Mhz cpu and 256Mb ram so I really don't need this thing from T-Mobile. Maybe ebaying it is the solution to my problems.
forgot to mention the new vario II back from T-Mobile has windows mobile 6 on it. Just as rubbish on this phone as windows mobile 5.
I personally find the Vario II with WM6 on it very stable. There is no comparison with WM5 - now I reset it more out of habit than any need. There are some issues but nothing that causes me real problems.
Having had both a Kaiser (on loan) and a Hermes for the last 4 months having to pay for an upgrade or going through loads of fuss to get one is not really worth the extras the Kaiser has over the Hermes.
A fresh user I would tell to get the Kaiser ofcourse.
Id also add that the vast majority of users in the Hermes section and from the people I know who use them havent had such extreme issues as soft resets daily and random Hard resets, most of the issues people encounter are due to 3rd party apps conflicting with eachother.
The driver issue with the kaiser is a pretty poor point personally since I tend to use coreplayer quite alot and the playback on the Hermes is flawless.
Id say if you already have a hermes then the added extras on the kaiser aint really enough to justify an upgrade (since knowing HTC a TyTN III or something like is soon around the corner), but for a brand new user its worth getting one.
I had a VarioII for 18 months before upgrading to a VarioIII, and I know exactly this dilemma.
Does the VarioIII have enough to persuade you to ditch the II?
My answer is yes - but with qualifications.
I had the BT GPS/TomTom/powered car kit setup on my VarioII, so the in-built GPS is of value. My TT Navigator software installed with no fuss on the VarioIII, and that is more stable (I had occasional hang ups in TT6 which hitting OK then opening the TT6 dsoftware again alays got past). Its behaved flawlessly in this regard, even though the GPS unit isnt as good as my BT SirfStarIII unit its certainly up to the job.
Like others have said, the extra RAM seems to make a huge difference to performance - very few soft resets and NO hard resets in the month I've had the phone. Also, I had the classic VarioII "screen align drift" issue, and I've not had to recalibrate once with the VarioIII yet.
My biggest issue is with the screen slide going the "wrong" way. It just seems daft. This means putting the stylus away with the screen in landscape is now a left handed function and damn fiddly, and dont get me started on where the scroll wheel is now! It used to be so easy to roll with your thumb in landscape mode - now its a right index finger job, and is behind the open screen. Poor decision, HTC.
I flashed my VarioII to WM6 via the t-mobile website, and that has performed better since, so maybe a VarioIII isnt a necessary purchase. However, I'm enjoying mine, and that is the best acid test of all.
Good luck.
Bought it 5 days ago. When the battery went dead last night, I plugged it in to charge and switched it on .It did not go past the Windows Mobile splash screen. I took the battery out as well as the sim and memory cards, to no avail. I left it plugged in overnight and got the battery fully charged (battery indicator light is now green) and the network status green light would (at least sometimes) start flashing on boot, even though the phone would not completely boot up. I CAN get it into bootloader. What I want to know is, should I go to www.htc.com and download and install an official ROM from there, or should I leave all that alone and take it back to where I got it from before I screw it up? Additionally, the phone shows up as a Dopod D810 when registered on www.htc.com, and the radio and ROM versions appear to be lower/older than what came pre-installed in the phone. Advice anyone? I am fairly new and in the process of learning all this wonderful stuff you guys have to teach.
it seems like its already been fiddled with (correct me if i'm wrong people), i would visit the HTC club site and if you can upgrade using your serial number do that, as if you look in the trinity WIKI in "Trinity" forum (Not Trinity 6 forum, here) it states there is a different way to flash the p3600i as its setup different than the standard p3600.
This is exactly what happened to my phone when the battery died (after installing FInixNOver) Is there a problem with these ROMS, or something that happens when the phone dies!... My phone was also 'sticking/frozen/crashed' on the splash screen.
I just reflashed it with a new ROM after fully charging it again.
Thanks VISTAR. And WIZZKID - your phone works perfectly now after the flashing? And do you think it's because of the stuff you installed? BTW my ROM was an official HTC ROM. I actually got called out early this morning to do a flight to the island where I bought the phone (I am a commercial pilot flying Caribbean routes) and I packed it's backside back in the box and sent it to be exchanged. I don't have the new one yet, but I am beginning to wonder if I shouldn't try something else because of this problem of sticking at the splash screen - however I only have a choice of the Kaiser and the S730 at the moment. The P3600/P3600i is among my favourite WM phones of all times, but I don't wanna have to go thru this again. What do you guys think? By the way - I only just realized that I started this post in the wrong section, so please forgive me anyone whom is not pleased by that.
iF YOU HAVE THE CHANCE OF A KAISER I WOULD GO WITH THAT, ITS THE BEST OUT THERE AT THE MOMENT..
Yeah I know but I just don't like it the way I like the P3600i and some of the others. Besides I prefer no sliding hardware keyboard. Moving parts is an issue for me as I am very fussy about wear and tear/looseness. Thanks again for your help. I am gonna move over to WIZZKID's thread on this P3600/P3600i non-starting issue since I am in the wrong section of the forum. Thanks to all those who assisted...
Got a second P3600i and it did the same thing - a hard reset fixed the problem.
I have a chance to get a brand new AT&T Tilt for pretty cheap (w/o contract). I am a Tmo user and have been using the Wing/Herald. I just found this forum and have enjoyed modding my phone. Most of the issues that I hated about the wing dissapeared when I reflashed with the new rom. No more freezing up on me, and my camera actually has enough memory to operate (even with other apps open!). I used to have to soft reset it to get the camera to work LOL! Anyways... I really want the GPS functionality and increased performance of the Kaiser but I'm worried about all the complaints I see about video drivers and unresolved issues.
Also one of my friends who has the AT&T Tilt says he's on his 2nd phone and the middle button keeps failing (sticking) on him. Is this normal?
Should I make the jump? Or hang on to my Wing until the issues are resolved? Will the video performance of the Kaiser be worse then the Herald I have now?
Thanks guys... I look forward to spending a lot more time on here!!
Hi,
I am soon to be the happy owner of a MDA Compact V. I have been very impressed with my MDA Compact III that I decided to go for the new version. I will be looking into tuning my phone to achieve the following main goals:
- Increased battery life
- Simplify the phone for push email, phone , text, sat nav use only. I will be aiming on streamlining the phone so that I will have optimal battery life.
If anyone wants to recommend a ROM for this, I would be very grateful, otherwise I will start with the HTC original rom (I don't like the pink T-mobile colours).
I presume that I will have to hard-spl unlock my phone before I can load the original HTC Rom? Is there anything else I have to do?
Cheers,
D
Hard SPL is the first step, then you just need tro find a ROM that suites your needs. Most are fully optimized for performance. There are many chefs to choose from, Dutty, Energy, etc.....
Bruce,
Thanks for your help.
I have gone through the beginners guides by drag-on which have cleared things up for me.
I will have to do some forum searching and find a rom that is aimed at battery life (I am willing to sacrifice performance - as it will already be soo much faster than my Compact III...).
The other question I had was, once I SIM unlock my phone, will it be the same as the Hard SPL install that it is permanent, and is not affected by installing ROM's?
Cheers guys,
D
Thanks for taking the time to read.
Yes, SIM unlocking and HSPL need only be done once and are not affected by flashing ROMs.
You have to flash SSPL back to your device for warrranty exchanges.
Excellent.
Sounds like I'll be making a painless start.
Doing homework helps!
I am impressed with this site / forum, there is some serious passion here, which I am happy to see.
Now I just have to decide whether my gamble was right and that I reckon the MDA version really does look good in black... Pitty about the T-mobile logo on the case and the plug over the mini usb port. I am also waiting for the day HTC puts a normal headphone jack on the pone.
I am also considering giving my good old MDA Compact III a fresh battery and a new ROM. It has done so well with the standard ROM (I got used to it crashing But I want to optimise it for the G/F to have a small sat nav to leave in her purse so she can get home when out and about in the car and got herself lost again... My only niggle with it was that the sat nav localisation was pretty slow at times.
Happy Cooking !
D
The USB port cover is easily removable and I suggest doing it because it interferes with plugging in a wider USB plug found on some adaptors. Can't be good on the USB pins. I always try to pamper the port because if it goes, your screwed.
Many skins and covers available for these so color customizing is easy. But black is sleek.
Check out the new Bing for a quick little nav program. It now has voice turn by turn directions.
GPS locks are quite fast if you have AGPS enabled and have the latest Quick GPS data.
Happy flashing!
So, I upgraded to a droid when it was released, but I recently repaired the screen on my Tilt and am going to be giving it to my sister.
I just wanted to see what the latest and greatest tweaks for the tilt are?! I wiped it when I first replaced the screen anticipating selling it.
SO...i'd rather NOT flash a new rom or do anything crazy.
I WOULD like a new dialer, youtube and facebook apps, and any other "basic" thing that makes it easier to use with the touch screen. I cant remember everything I had done to it, so its hard for me to track down all the things I had.
(side note: im tech-savvy but my sis isnt. so nothing that might jack it up in the future either...)
THANKS!!
You have the forums ready so you can go, read and find the latest - greatest for yourself
The latest and greatest is WM 6.5, most already have youtube , facebook apps cooked in for optimal performance. Just read through rom development for a 6.5 that has everything you want. For the best and most stable 6.1 rom with great apps, check my/people's signitures ( hint ; hint )
If in fact you do not want to flash your phone.....well then, nothing's new.
I think he ment the iphone 4?
I've had a Tytn2 for many years now except it is having a few issues. Last night I picked up a brand new Tytn2 that has NEVER BEEN USED for calls and only switched on twice! Immaculate condition but ROM date of 2007 ISTR.
So I'll be looking for a decent WM 6.5 ROM that isn't too agressive for me.... So, yeah, WB to you too