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Back on WM2003SE - I'm appalled!

OK, I needed to vent a bit here! I'm expecting a new O2 Atom next week, and then my BA is going to be sold. So I downgraded to 2003SE yesterday (I'm not really sure that the new owner is up for experiments in OS...), and I will run it with that for the next week. The good: It's faster. A lot faster on web surfing. The bad: Just about everything else! :x Cumbersome OS, ugly, idiotic menus (why don't you get the ability to delete an SMS first when you pop up a menu on an excisting SMS - "New" is really not the logical choice - and that's one of a bunch of stupid things!). Not to mention that it's actually less stable, especially on BT! I've had to reset it twice since yesterday when turning on and off BT because of a driver memory message. Basically I would keep WM5, especially with the latest speed improvements over this shxt any day!
Cudos to the experts for working on a great OS for a pretty great unit! Without that I probably would have sold this unit a long time ago!

Advice Needed: Thinking of upgrading from a modded Wing (n00b warning)

I have a chance to get a brand new AT&T Tilt for pretty cheap (w/o contract). I am a Tmo user and have been using the Wing/Herald. I just found this forum and have enjoyed modding my phone. Most of the issues that I hated about the wing dissapeared when I reflashed with the new rom. No more freezing up on me, and my camera actually has enough memory to operate (even with other apps open!). I used to have to soft reset it to get the camera to work LOL! Anyways... I really want the GPS functionality and increased performance of the Kaiser but I'm worried about all the complaints I see about video drivers and unresolved issues.
Also one of my friends who has the AT&T Tilt says he's on his 2nd phone and the middle button keeps failing (sticking) on him. Is this normal?
Should I make the jump? Or hang on to my Wing until the issues are resolved? Will the video performance of the Kaiser be worse then the Herald I have now?
Thanks guys... I look forward to spending a lot more time on here!!

Probably worst device I've bought!!

Must admit I'm just about to part company with the TyTn. I've been impressed with it to a degree as a PDA but I do think the phone element of it is atrocious. What makes it worse now is that there seems to be problem after problem with it, especially after the 6.1 upgrade.
Latest problem is that today it just seems to slow down, lock or even freeze completely. Going to contacts and hitting a contact in the list doesn't open it up any more and problems just seem to start from there. Once this happens I can't close programmes, can't navigate in them, in fact can't do anything, at least until the damn thing seems to catch up with a key press I made 1/2 an hour ago. Restarts and battery removal seem to fix it for 1/2 an hour or so but then it's back to lag and lock. Sick and tired of it now.
It got turned off and on again while connected to PC by USB and not sure if that's caused it but overall I'm getting quite fed up with the device and the WM 6.1 combi.
Contemplating a hard reset or even re-flash (possibly back to WM6.0 but the problems with SPL reversion put me off that) to try to fix what has just become a bug ridden pain to use.

Did you install Hard SPL to upgrade to WM6.1, or are you using your Carriers ROM?
If so what version of Hard SPL are you currently using?
Ta
Dave

Dont forget that its not the phone´s fault but M$ and HTC. They build the crappy roms. I have cooked rom on my kaiser and I am more then satisfied with it.

Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.

MACkjam said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
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Same here, though i have this device since may this year. I have to say that a flash with a custom rom improves the quality of the kaiser. Carrier roms are slow and full with programs i do not use.
My only remark is that the phone reacts slow on phonecalls. It takes a second or two before the phone rings when you are called. Besides that, the phone responses slow when i end a call. So the reaction time can be improved. Still: that's my only remark and i do not even know if that is a phone or os related problem.

MACkjam said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
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Ditto, I've had mine a year and it's a champ. Either your spl is wrong for 6.1 or your phone is sick and needs to go to the phone hospital.

Never had any problem with my Tytn II ....love it,, with me since April this year...
The Copilot GPS software which i got free with phone works like a dream.
Cheers.

No problems with my device and I am taking it to the limits daily.
If you need a solid fast reliable smartphone - you can sure find better then this.
but if you look for a device that can be configured to fit exactly your taste and needs with the best support ever (yes, I'm speaking about the XDA-Dev forum) keep this one.
this is the ultimate device for those who are seeking for constant improvment and willing to invest some of their time in it (flashing flashing flashing)

Well I'm glad for those that are having a better experience than mine. Mine is still pretty dismal though.
Like an idiot I just followed the instructions from HTC for installing their 6.1 and haven't touched SPL. It was all working fine (of sorts) yesterday (despite the fact that I wished I had not upgraded to 6.1) andf then it just keeps locking up. Using SMS and hitting to accept a word offered by predictive text guarantees a lock as does opening contacts and selecting a contact. Will look at the SPL issue but didn't really want to be tinkering with that as I wanted to keep it all stock from the warranty side. At the moment though I suspect even the warranty will not cover it when I hurl it against the wall from having to do the 25th reset of the day.

I suggest you do a hard reset; then install Hard SpL and go to WM 6.1. Once SpL is installed there will be very few, if any, problems with the device.
Cheers

MACkjam said:
Absolutely nothing wrong with mine and I've had it since Jan this year.
Whatever problem has occurred has been as a result of my installing some app that conflicts with something, but I have aways been able to rectify matters.
Runs like a well-oiled machine.
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Same for me. I have had nothing but great luck with my 8925 with the stock ATT ROM.... And its a refurb!
Maybe you just have a bad phone. You don't judge the heard by one horse.

Empgamer said:
Well I'm glad for those that are having a better experience than mine. Mine is still pretty dismal though.
Like an idiot I just followed the instructions from HTC for installing their 6.1 and haven't touched SPL. It was all working fine (of sorts) yesterday (despite the fact that I wished I had not upgraded to 6.1) andf then it just keeps locking up. Using SMS and hitting to accept a word offered by predictive text guarantees a lock as does opening contacts and selecting a contact. Will look at the SPL issue but didn't really want to be tinkering with that as I wanted to keep it all stock from the warranty side. At the moment though I suspect even the warranty will not cover it when I hurl it against the wall from having to do the 25th reset of the day.
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Thats weird mate, before even knowing that xda existed I flashed mine to 6.1 on the HTC site and it worked like a charm.

I have to say that I bought this phone well knowing that it was more of a ppc than a phone. I have to say that this phone has BLOWN ME AWAY with the capabilities shown through this forum. I suppose I shouldnt be surprised, being that it is practically a computer, all the mods are basically batch files and adjusting the registry or are skins. I absolutely love this machine!

O2 XDA Ignito

Have had this phone a day now (Touch Diamond with O2 front-end) and I have to say I'm not impressed. It requires the stylus for most operations and the Touch Flo seems hit and miss most of the time. I have 14 days to send it back if I want. A few other niggles like the fact it has locked up 3 times in 24 hours and that the screen goes blank are pushing me towards a return. I chose this over the Samsung Pixxon which was a bit cheaper.
I'm interested to know if you guys think it's worth dumping a new ROM on it and persevering. I heard good things about the HTC Diamond so I'd be happy to keep it if I can use it without the stylus for phone calls and have a nice responsive menu system.
Any idea if I can save the O2 firmware for dropping back on the phone if it is unsuccessful or do I need to commit to the ROM change?

O2 xda ignito
Hi, got my Ignito in December and had similar doubts to yourself. From the searches I've done no-one has posted an O2 ROM so if you flash a new one there is probably no going back (and I imagine a void warranty!)
However, if you search for available tweaks and fixes I've found the O2 ROM to be OK. TouchFlo responds adequately but not blazing fast, it has only locked half a dozen times or so, and if you change the icon/menu/border sizes you can do without the stylus for most things.
Suggested Tweaks
- Advanced Config
- Diamond TF3D Config
- G- Light
- GSen (only works intermittently)
- Second Today
- Total Commander

Dutty's ROMs FTW!
Go for a cooked ROM, and splat an official ROM back on if you need to return it. Stock ROMs are slow and way too buggy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=411707
Go on, go on, go on, go on, go on, go on..

@iain2510: Cheers. I'd like to go all the way with a cooked rom first if poss, but will bear your suggestions in mind if not.
@ruffage (or anyone):
"...splat an official ROM back on if you need to return it"
Where can I get this from or can I back it up myself first? If so how?

check my thread out
use the back up at your own risk tho!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=430636&highlight=XDA+ignito
use the search function!
i would like to add if you have just bought the ignito then i would wait for the touch HD to come out on O2!
i am happy with my ignito now but looking forward to getting a HD for bettery battery life and improved signal quality (hopefully)

I have the O2, in fact we bought two for the office. I kept mine as I dont like the iphone, and one was sent back due to battery life and the general slow feel of the phone.
I kept mine and have been flashing duttys roms for a while, now on 3.6b and it amazing....I love the phone.
Stick with it!

What is the best ROM?

I know... it's only an experimental roms... but... I tested some and every time there is abug... Camera don't works or some times freeze, or some times no sound... or bluetooth not work properly...
Is there a WM6 rom for Hyma that works with no bugs?
Thx,
M.

u can try WM6.5 build 21189 by Sun Dream..

My best rom
I've try almost all the rom (not yet try sun_dream roms), but I think the best is ather's rom Dark Edition ROM more fast more reliable on GPRS.
That's what I thought...

I'm voting for sundream's ROM. Stable and fast. Only problem I've heard about it is syncing with server but since I don't need to do that this ROM is two thumbs up.

u can try tofclock 6.1...stable n fast..

Go for Efsane's WM6.5 Build 21500
Its really awesome. Clean,fast and stable i personally liked it alot greatly cooked

its not yet released in WWE

I am talking about Build 21500WWE Test version not 21501CHS

hMmm mode sms not working in that rom and yeah camera too not working

abdul.rafay7 said:
its not yet released in WWE
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'Sit down, abdul, go to your basket!' or, if you know the game monopoly'Go into jail, do not pass Start, do not earn money' !!!
Of cause it is WEE! http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=510805
It has no camera function and some little issues, like keylock is not displayed correct.
Well, I think, such a thread is disgusting.
We live in the second century, everyone has got his own opinion and can like, what he wants!
There are guys out there who love men! (Ui, IiH, Ohoh,)
Everyone should make up his mind himself, because it belongs, on what he expects!!
Flashing is as safe and fast as changing your underwear! OK, in most cases it should take a little more time.
With the help of a little app, you can im-/export your personal data, without the risk of loosing one single bit.
Even between three different Windows Mobile!!
Test the rom, find issues and workarounds, find programs to improve it or make it more comfortable.
Incidentally you will be 'learning' a lot 'by doing' this. One of the oldest principals of getting a higher level of skills.
And someday, just by chance, you will make up your mind, because one of the rom 'fits' you.
Even if it is not the newest build. There are people who switched back to WM2k3, because they need STK, the CF-slot of their backpack or the possibility of using their hima to hear music, while the device is placed in a free speaking unit, via the car hifi speaker.
( to ather90: This is a new issue of WM5 and WM6.X Rolf-Dieter found here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=510675.
As we found out, it is a problem of drivers, maybe with the with the possibility of a hardware solution.)
The last level you could reach is, when you cook your first running self-made rom, even, if you only changed one registry key for 0 to 1.
Then the hima-universe is yours, because you can change it, and you can make it a better place for everyone.
This is, when you ask yourself: What scared me, as I first flashed my device?
My tipp:
1. Download your original rom, so you can switch back every time you want to.
2. Think of what you want, expect or what sacrifices you can make.
3. Choose one of the new rom, you think, it could be the right one.
4. Collect all the information, You think, You need to flash, without damaging the device.
Ie. read the stickies about flashing and getting more memory.d
5. Start flashing and never, ever stop, till you see Congratulations.
This is almost the only way to change your device to a brick!!
Happy flashing, and god bless you!
PS.:This post is a little bit like a preaching, but this one way to spend confidence to others.
BTW, my dad's a priest. No joke!

muckelmaus is right, these types of posts shouldn't be opened as they nothing but trouble
If you wanna know whats the best ROM? try flashing it yourself or reading the user's replies
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