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I can tell by what im reading here you all know your stuff very well. I, on the other hand, do not know what the heck your talking about %90 of the time. I HAVE searched the threads to see if I can get some straight info on my dilemma and cant find a simple enough answer to follow. So, im going to ask the question knowing it may have been asked and answered before. This time, im hoping, someone can give me an answer in laymans terms I can actually follow and perform.
My question is this:
I have both an O2 XDA Mini S AND a Cingular 8125. Same unit, different look. The O2 is UNLOCKED, the Cingular is LOCKED. I prefer the Cingular unit but Id much rather have the O2 OS and software. I was told if I was to re-install the O2 operating system (is this known as the ROM?) onto the Cingular device I would not only get the best of both worlds but It would also effectively UNLOCK the Cingular device at the same time (which I need as im not a cingular customer).
Can anyone tell me HOW to do this without all the confusing info and big words. Im not an idiot, im just not inclined technically... at least not this way.
I have used threads on this site to unlock phones before and im very good at following directions. But when the directions start asking for Radio versions and other things like that I just loose it. Is there a simple way to just erase whats on the 8125 and load whats on the XDA Mini S? If I do this is everything going to be screwed up and require a bunch of fiddling around to make all the features work? I dont want to improve on anything, I just want the functionality of the O2 with the form of the Cingular.
Any help with this would be great. I dont require anyone to tell me to search the forums for an answer. If thats what you feel you need to do, just dont post. Ive searched and cant find what im looking for.
Thanks to all those who make this site possible. You make the devices I love work for me when others cant.
Pavmentsurfer
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Have you already read this thread ?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?t=43399
It's hard to be more clear than this...
Bye 8)
Wow, just read that post RANGEL. Im beginning to think im simply too much of a beginner to do something like this. As I said, im not an idiot, but im not inclined towards this type of stuff. I was hoping for a simple, link to link, step by step walkthrough of how to, quite simply, put an unlocked O2 OS onto my Cingular device. I have no idea what all the technical jargon on that thread you liked to means.
I think ill just take the safe route and stick with my unlocked O2 XDA Mini S and not mess with anything. The last thing I want is to mess up a $500 device. Ill just sell the Cingular device on e-bay.
Thanks for the link though. Unless something much more simple comes along I need to be smart enough to know when im outmatched.
Pavmentsurfer
pavmentsurfer,
I also noticed (it is hard not to) confusing style of these forum. We are maybe just too old...
There are just too many typed letters in these messages. Some threads are speeded on more than 15 pages. :shock:
Who can read all that from the beginning to the end? :roll:
This link, rangel sended, is one of the easiest, but...
I made copy/paste to word all relevant (I hope so) lines. Otherwise it is too hard to follow guide across thread, because it is too many noise around main speaker/writer.
Hi, i've been looking and reading now for a couple days looking at comments and stuff on those with the newer 8125 G4 chipsets. I can't find a dedicated thread on how to switch it to another rom. I would like to use summiters test2 rom. I had this installed on another 8125 which i returned a couple days ago as the screen had a blimish on it. Too bad as I did downgrade and do everything following the guidelines for it and it worked great. I've seen threads pointing to other threads on the G4's but it seems like people get off topic or don't post what worked and what didn't work. Anyway, if i'm just missing it would someone kindly point me to the right thread or maybe use this thread to post the way it's done currently. I've read you can't go below the 2.xx but what rom's can you use? The main reason I want to put another rom on is the constant locking up. When I had summiters on the other unit it ran perfectly. I have the 2.25.0001 IPL/SPL when it first boots up so i know that's the G4. Thanks for reading......
J
From what people have said, there's a query as to whether or not the CID/SIM unlock on a G4 chipset can be done. That's your major problem.
What I can say for certain, is that if anyone is developing a G4 solution, that would be machinagod. Search for his posts... and see if a tool LokiwizMSL0.3a will do the trick for you. To do this, search for all posts by machinagod, and you'll find a thread on lokiwizMSL which apparently states it works for 2.xx spl's.
BTW, don't forget to enablerapi.cap =) don't say i didn't warn you.
thanks....I looked up machinagod's stuff the other day when looking thru the forums....I guess until I see someone's reply that says thier 8125 with the 2.25.0001 has been changed to ?? rom i'll wait. I get that you can sim unlock the unit if you have another sim to use but after that there is some confusion as to what to do. It would be nice if someone knows exactly what steps to take and all. What options are avail for this G4 unit when you sim unlock it and even pay to cid unlock it if that is necessary. I would just like to use a different rom than Cingulars 2.25 as my unit keeps locking up....mostly after a call but also when browsing on the net. It has locked up using IE and Opera. I called Cingular this morning and the guy said they are upgrading the towers here in So. Florida and people have been complaining about dropped calls and thier phones locking up. Mine though locks even when not on a call...I asked him if they had any "older" new phones but he said he wasn't sure so guess i'll just keep plugging along and reading and hope to find a thread explaining the solution. Thanks again!
J
What we're all not sure of is the address differences between the G3 and G4 chipsets.
One thread, which I cannot recall right now, did detail a way to go from a G4 stock rom to a summiter rom, but I am not sure where it is here, nor what to search for amongst the thousands of threads. My suggestion might be to search for anything that has like '.0001' or 'g4 spl' in it. That might narrow your fields down. Also setting the search to things such as 'posts' instead of threads, that will help. Narrowing the field even further, you can specify the wizard to forum threads, or the wizard upgrading forum threads. I'd stick to the upgrading threads for g4 issues, as for unlocks and such, that machinagod usually posts that in the general wizard forum.
thanks man for the reply....I downloaded the rom from HTC just to reflash and see if maybe it might help with the locking problem somewhat...um, well, it got to 95% complete and an error popped up saying something about the nb file was bad....so, it was looped i guess in the boot screen....turned it off and on only to have that screen come up...tried to reconnect, which it did and started to reflash and again it stopped at 95% after using a new downloaded rom...the same 2.25 from HTC that is...oh well, took it back to the store and got a new one...still has the .0001 on it so will do some more searching and reading and will wait for a viable fix...not gonna be in a hurry if it runs without locking up....call sounds seem to be better i've noticed but that could just be wishful thinking...oh well...thanks again!
J
I'm new to the MDA. I just switched jobs and turned in my tricked-out 8125, I was given a squeaky clean MDA with the following specs:
ROM 1.8.10.1 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/05
Radio Version 01.09.10
Protocol Version 4.0.13.20
Ext. Rom 1.8.10.104
Please provide me with a recommendation for a rom and anything that I may need to do to unlock it. Sorry for the noob question, but it's my first day with the MDA and first time ever with T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance
it's first time for everything mate. now start searching for the first time.
If you absolutely have to update it and you have no idea what you're doing, go to t-mobile's web site and download the official 2.26 update. At least then you'll have some defense if it goes sour. In the meantime, there's a ton of information already here, it's not all that hard to find and, not to be smart but no one is going to hold your hand, press the buttons for you and take the blame when you flash the wrong thing and fry your expensive new toy. Personally, I use T-mobile's official 2.26 release because it works quite well and I don't have to worry about voiding the warrantee.
SO if you had your 8125 tricked-out then how do you not know what or how to do this to your MDA Vario?
I mean they're basically the same device except for some minor cosmetics.
If you had the 8125 how you liked it just do the same to the MDA.
Bu11D0z3r said:
I'm new to the MDA. I just switched jobs and turned in my tricked-out 8125, I was given a squeaky clean MDA with the following specs:
ROM 1.8.10.1 WWE
ROM Date 12/10/05
Radio Version 01.09.10
Protocol Version 4.0.13.20
Ext. Rom 1.8.10.104
Please provide me with a recommendation for a rom and anything that I may need to do to unlock it. Sorry for the noob question, but it's my first day with the MDA and first time ever with T-Mobile.
Thanks in advance
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Congrats man I love my mda and T-mobile has been good to me thus far but as for as roms you should do the your homework and use the search. Try a few different ones till you find one that suits you best. Good Luck
I didn't ask for directions on how to plugin the USB cable, so your sarcasm is uncalled for. I was sending out a message to the group looking for advice on lessons learned from upgrading to various ROM's. I was more comfortable upgrading my 8125 because it seemed as though there were ROM's specifically designed for Cingular. If you were offended by my question, don't reply.
There is really nothing more annoying than people who respond to a question with NO CONTENT! If you're only response is to flame the one who asked the question, save everyone's time. Those who flame are usually too ignorant to provide a worthwile response.
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I didn't ask for directions on how to plugin the USB cable, so your sarcasm is uncalled for. I was sending out a message to the group looking for advice on lessons learned from upgrading to various ROM's. I was more comfortable upgrading my 8125 because it seemed as though there were ROM's specifically designed for Cingular. If you were offended by my question, don't reply.
There is really nothing more annoying than people who respond to a question with NO CONTENT! If you're only response is to flame the one who asked the question, save everyone's time. Those who flame are usually too ignorant to provide a worthwile response.
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It's not flaming, just imagine how many people come to this forum the first day asking the same question. There's no answer to your question as what was already said.
The 8125 is the same as the MDA, the T-mob ROM mentioned is the basis for most of all modified ROM's in this post and for you the safest.
If you use this, it is the latest, try this one first, instal your stuff, backup with spb or sprite, then read thru the posts and see if there is something you could use or do.
I even went back to the 2.26, the Molski one with 30mb RAM free.
Again do what's suggested go to the T-mob site and download/install th update. The flaming is only to stop you from being the next one on forum with: "Help I bricked my MDA.........."
http://www.t-mobileapps.com/downloadcenter/Software_Detail.cfm?ID=80
Is the one.
Bu11D0z3r said:
There is really nothing more annoying than people who respond to a question with NO CONTENT! If you're only response is to flame the one who asked the question, save everyone's time. Those who flame are usually too ignorant to provide a worthwile response.
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Well, actually there is one thing more annoying: Someone who is too lazy to do their own research!
Now back to the serious...
Meaningless questions like "What should I put on my phone" can't be answered by anyone here. First you need to ask yourself some basic questions such as:
What are you looking to do with your phone?
What function is most important to you?
How much performance are you willing to give-up to achieve this?
Which is more important to you Battery life or speed?
And the list goes on...
Dude, you just need to think about this and ask yourself not others.
Now if you asked something like" I want to be able to see everything that I have coming up on my calender in the next month on my today screen, which program handles this the best?" you will several helpful answers but first you need to define that feature you are looking for.
Just asking "What is the best Rom" or "Which programs should I install" makes you look lazy, stupid or both.
While we're at it, your Thread Title "T-Mobile MDA Question" is useless. It doesn't give the reader any hint of what the question is. The Thread title really should have the basic question in it like "I'm looking for advice on Calendar Today Plug-ins". This will at least allow those who couldn't care less about Today Plug-ins for the calendar to skip your thread while attracting the attention of those who have extensive experience and knowledge of such plug-ins because they share at least one of your goals with their phone use.
I have a T-mobile MDA, bought new, unlocked. I am using it on another carrier, Suncom.
If I upgrade the rom with this T-mobile rom, will it cause my phone to be locked back to T-mobile, or will it remain unlocked?
I have been looking for an answer to that question, but have not found the answer posted anywhere.
RikR said:
I have a T-mobile MDA, bought new, unlocked. I am using it on another carrier, Suncom.
If I upgrade the rom with this T-mobile rom, will it cause my phone to be locked back to T-mobile, or will it remain unlocked?
I have been looking for an answer to that question, but have not found the answer posted anywhere.
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Upgrading doesn't relock (either SIM or CID) your device.
In that case, I'll do my first ROM upgrade!
Thanks
i've T-mobile also But one problem..i can't open it.....want security code .......anyone tell me how i got security code??????????????????
The T-mobile rom install was smooth, no problems. Only took about 10 minutes.
Dont think it will but even if it does all you have to do is unlock it again. Not a big deal
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
The original rom in my tilt was very slow. I flashed my kaiser with one of Dutty's roms and its now much faster and already has most of the software I need already installed.
I like Duttys but Slueth has been the best for me so far.
Gowardo said:
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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If you really want to let the true geek in you out to play. Try them all. And I will see you at the NExt Flashers Anon Meeting.
hehe,
I appreciate all the advice.
I already have had a bit of a look around the forums now all I need to do is figure out which roms are where and then I'll start trying stuff out... thanks guys
Edit: Also, I have never actually flashed a smartphone before, I bow to those of you who have been in the "business" for a while, but me thinks I might need a bit more time to learn... the thing is, what sort of chance do you think there is that the whole process will drive me crazy? Seems a lil complicated, but doable so far. Just need to understand what all the various different things are for. (I.e. why radios aren't included in roms, and what they are actually for ..yaeh, im THAT noobish).
Anyhoo, thanks again fellas.
If you can follow simple intructions then I think you're going to be ok.
I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...
Gowardo said:
I'm sure I will be fine, but I have a feeling I might take advantage of the more generous of you at some point in the future again...
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That will cost you some true blue Italian Manicotti.
Edit:
All joking aside, you'll be fine. You have already done more than most by reading the Wiki. Might I also suggest the FAQ Wiki. Have fun and welcome to Rom Flashers Anon.
Gowardo said:
Hello everyone,
having read the Kaiser wiki fairly extensively, I still haven't been able to find the answer to the most important question I had about it.
I recently purchased a v1615 (Vodafone branded Tilt) and the geek inside of me is burning to install a new rom onto it as the one that came with it sucks bad.
Would anybody be able to suggest which are the most popular (i.e best for most common usage) roms out there at the moment?
Thanks in advance for any help you might be able to give me.
Gab
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Welcome to the flashing club lol.
There is no "best" rom , just find the one that you think is "best" for you.
Yea, the Wiki and Faq here is very noob friendly. I started up as a new ppc user , but It has been so smooth. Most of the flashing trouble can be recover , as long as you dont mess with advance stuff like MTTY .
Try Dutty rom , they are very popular and updated frequently.
make sure you have hard SPL before flashing.
Peeps here are very friendly , as long as you read and research before any question.
I've been having major issues with my phone since I installed a TNT Series Rom.
My rom version is 11.0.0.1 WWE
Radio Version 2.25.11 (i just put this on to try to fix the issues)
I wouldnt mind going back to WM5 because WM6 seems to be soooooo slow, i'm aiming for stability because my phone's pretty near useless since it never rings when I get calls and It doesn't even notify me of voicemails.
I can't seem to find any current links for any firmwares to downgrade to either =/
Thanks in advance
You need Radio version 02.19.11. Anything else and you will get lost calls.
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You need Radio version 02.19.11. Anything else and you will get lost calls.
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hm, damn, didn't know that, is there somewhere on the site that i can download that?
Have you noticed an option called "search" ?? On the top of this screen ??
yes... i have, thanks for that, i was wondering if anyone had a download link already in a thread they knew of, but thanks.....
Search on this forum is worthless. Try searching for "AT&T" with or without quotes in whole forum, get zero results.
I found this topic by Googling and I keep hitting deadends with jerks like you telling people to SEARCH instead of actually providing useful information. This topic is on the first page for what I'm looking for. I want the same thing - a stable, usable ROM for an HTC Wizard on Cingular (now AT&T). I've had nothing but headaches trying to upgrade this Wizard for a friend. It's been a nightmare with a flood of poorly designed and unsupported abandonware ROMS with bugs enough to make it darn near unusable, and biased tutorials that end me up with a T-Mobile Pocket PC instead of a Cingular PPC, with no information about how to make it appear to be a Cingular PPC again.
I've given up on WM6 on this Wizard and now I'm just looking for a working Windows Mobile 5 ROM again. Chances are, I'll have that figured out by tonight, but I'll still have this topic on watch so I can be notified when someone with half a functioning brain decides to reply. Damn this is frustrating.
(oh, and hi, first poast, olol)
FalconFour said:
Search on this forum is worthless. Try searching for "AT&T" with or without quotes in whole forum, get zero results.
I found this topic by Googling and I keep hitting deadends with jerks like you telling people to SEARCH instead of actually providing useful information. This topic is on the first page for what I'm looking for. I want the same thing - a stable, usable ROM for an HTC Wizard on Cingular (now AT&T). I've had nothing but headaches trying to upgrade this Wizard for a friend. It's been a nightmare with a flood of poorly designed and unsupported abandonware ROMS with bugs enough to make it darn near unusable, and biased tutorials that end me up with a T-Mobile Pocket PC instead of a Cingular PPC, with no information about how to make it appear to be a Cingular PPC again.
I've given up on WM6 on this Wizard and now I'm just looking for a working Windows Mobile 5 ROM again. Chances are, I'll have that figured out by tonight, but I'll still have this topic on watch so I can be notified when someone with half a functioning brain decides to reply. Damn this is frustrating.
(oh, and hi, first poast, olol)
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unfortunately i have found THIS EXACT same results, except they were responses to other people's questions and i haven't flashed.. yet. i was preparing to, in about one cigarette's amount of time, until i found your post just now. very disappointing. i'm affraid of going to wm6 or 6.1 now.. for fear of the dropped calls some other guy in this post was complaining of, and the slowness you speak of. very unfortunate. i've spent 7 hours struggling with poor search capabilities to attempt to determine the best rom and any issues i might have. i was about to pull the trigger and you RUINED IT FOR ME. hahaha. so let me know how your event goes tryin to get back to wm5, in case i need to do the same
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
Here's a link to the original Cingular WM5 ROM. I asked a similar question a few days ago, and was graciously provided the link.
WRT fixing your problem, did you try downgrading to the Button ROM, and then reupgrading to WM5? Might make things easier for you.
Chuck
chuckknight said:
http://download.america.htc.com/RUU_Wizard_225111_22511102_022511_CWS_WWE_Ship_1.exe
Here's a link to the original Cingular WM5 ROM. I asked a similar question a few days ago, and was graciously provided the link.
WRT fixing your problem, did you try downgrading to the Button ROM, and then reupgrading to WM5? Might make things easier for you.
Chuck
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Link broken, here is a link I found googling
http://w16.easy-share.com/1700053307.html
I'm actually about to try it right now, I'm also stuck
in bootloader mode
FalconFour said:
Search on this forum is worthless. Try searching for "AT&T" with or without quotes in whole forum, get zero results.
I found this topic by Googling and I keep hitting deadends with jerks like you telling people to SEARCH instead of actually providing useful information. This topic is on the first page for what I'm looking for. I want the same thing - a stable, usable ROM for an HTC Wizard on Cingular (now AT&T). I've had nothing but headaches trying to upgrade this Wizard for a friend. It's been a nightmare with a flood of poorly designed and unsupported abandonware ROMS with bugs enough to make it darn near unusable, and biased tutorials that end me up with a T-Mobile Pocket PC instead of a Cingular PPC, with no information about how to make it appear to be a Cingular PPC again.
I've given up on WM6 on this Wizard and now I'm just looking for a working Windows Mobile 5 ROM again. Chances are, I'll have that figured out by tonight, but I'll still have this topic on watch so I can be notified when someone with half a functioning brain decides to reply. Damn this is frustrating.
(oh, and hi, first poast, olol)
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I know this is quite an old post....but I thought I'd respond to his frustration, because I myself was in your same position around the time you posted this. I have a Cingular 8125 and when I bought it, it had the official T-Mobile ROM Windows Mobile 5. My first PDA. I came to xda by chance and read all the cool stuff. I became aware of what is called "Flashing." I must have read the tuturial a dozen times, and "flashed" it nearly 2 dozen times lol (or what I thought was flashing hahahaha) The only thing I noticed was a splash screen change. lmao. But after trial and error I finally flashed it! yea! hahaha. I then learned about the other stuff like ISPL or whatever hahaha and radio stuff. So to make my point... I never asked for any help! I just searched, and read, searched, and read, trial & error, trial & error. So instead of demanding answers, go ahead and read through the forums, I know you don't always get what you search for, but read some more! I can guarantee your question has been answered, and you might learn a few new things!
Good Luck!