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Kaiser is getting hot

Hi,
Sometimes my Kaiser is getting very hot on the backside of the phone. Specially when WIFI and BT is on or even more when GPS is running.
Anybody else having this problem?

mine got pretty warm while i was installing apps and charging it (PC-USB) for the first time; look on the bright side, a battery explosion or a dead Kaiser can only mean a replacement or a lawsuit.

Yes you are using lots of juice when running Wifi and other processor intence apps this is normal if it gets so hot that you can not touch it then I would be worried but until then just use it for a pocket warmer in the winter

Mine gets quite warm when it's charging in the car, but not so much that it becomes a problem. I haven't the issue with BT or GPS though.

It's just like the Honda service manager says:
"They all do that."
When I first opened all the possible connections on my 8525 (WiFi, BT, 3G and phone) it got darn hot.
I think you'll find my posting of the same question over in the Hermes section.
They all do it. No worries.

As Austinsync says, it's pretty normal. Mine is a bit variable - sometimes wifi does not heat it up much and other days it is very warm. (probably to do with how close you are to the router - if the signal is weaker it struggles and heats up more)
Mike

my hermes does the same thing. not too fun when talking on the phone and charging at the same time...

They will blow up at 115 degrees F...
JB

Buzz313th said:
They will blow up at 115 degrees F...
JB
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Now I know how to stop those folk that just talk and talk and talk....
Tell them my phone has reached 114 degrees and is about to blow my head off.
Of course that may be an incentive for them to keep talking
Mike

Woah, I thought I was the only one with this problem and was just about to post about it.
*plans casemod for phone, with either 120mm fan or liquid cooling* hahahahaha

Now you know why the battery has a dirty great heatsink on it...

My Diamond is TOO HOT!

I mean you can fry an egg on that thing after almost 5 minutes of use. Never happened to my TyTn II.
Anyone experience this ?

It's a feature Helps to keep your hands warm.

How many degrees does it reaches?
(Try to look at this using something like BatteryStatus...)

flaviopac said:
How many degrees does it reaches?
(Try to look at this using something like BatteryStatus...)
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Im still within my 15 days swap policy. I can exchange it if the device if faulty. But if his is a common problem to Diamond then I will just wait for a better ROM that might fix it.

slicker said:
It's a feature Helps to keep your hands warm.
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They never said on the specs that it can fry an egg. Thats a nice appliance to the wife.

daraj said:
it can fry an egg.
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A new feature of Diamond!

Where does it become hot (hottest)? The middle part of the back, where the battery is?
Or lower or upper part? Or the whole unit?
I am just wondering if this is a battery problem or if this is due to hot chipsets...
Either of them would not be good news... honestly

I've an idea to fix this.....
Try to use it inside the fridge.....

You can't say HTC didn't warn us thought... they said they would be launching a HOT new phone... who new they've meant it literally

slicker said:
a HOT new phone... who new they've meant it literally
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UP..!!....

Jorlin said:
Where does it become hot (hottest)? The middle part of the back, where the battery is?
Or lower or upper part? Or the whole unit?
I am just wondering if this is a battery problem or if this is due to hot chipsets...
Either of them would not be good news... honestly
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Its actually the lower part of the phone just under the battery. Its very uncomfortable to hold. I just don't want this thing to explode one day.
Obviously, Im the only one who had this additional feature on his phone.
RMA...

daraj said:
Its actually the lower part of the phone just under the battery. Its very uncomfortable to hold. I just don't want this thing to explode one day.
Obviously, Im the only one who had this additional feature on his phone.
RMA...
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Dont feel left out I, also have that nice feature however it's not that bad. I, removed the battery cover and it's warm at the bottom while battery is rather cool.

I remmeber back in the day when I first got the Tytn II its had the same problem but after the chefs started cooking custom roms the problem went away completely to non existent. I'm assuming its a ROM issue.

wbaez0320 said:
Dont feel left out I, also have that nice feature however it's not that bad. I, removed the battery cover and it's warm at the bottom while battery is rather cool.
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Seems to be where the QualComm chip is (see attached image - snipping tool 4tw )
If the image equals the real architecture of the Touch Diamond, the main processor is the reason for that. Probably not the smartest idea to just put it right beneath the surface...
Judging upon this, the Touch Pro should actually do better (even if the chip gets so warm) because the keyboard is between the main unit and the palm of your hand.

daraj said:
I remmeber back in the day when I first got the Tytn II its had the same problem but after the chefs started cooking custom roms the problem went away completely to non existent. I'm assuming its a ROM issue.
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That makes me wonder if there is some stepping problem of the CPU running on full throttle by what reasons soever... If this gets fixed this might also have a significant impact on battery life.

Can't wait for custom roms to see what this device is really capable of.

Jorlin said:
That makes me wonder if there is some stepping problem of the CPU running on full throttle by what reasons soever... If this gets fixed this might also have a significant impact on battery life.
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i disabled the htcflow and i watched the microprocessor's activity with the batterystatus plugin. nothing unusual. it might be that WITH htcflow the the situation changes....

Looks like touchflo puts so much stress on the processor. Although its 524,if not mistaken, it feels a lot slower than the tytn which is 400Mhz.
Disabling touchflo changes the whole situation. The device is very fast and responsive(Still Hot). But whats good it is without the touchflo!!!

same here that thing is bloody hot not to mention horrible battery life on wifi since you must use maximum power for it to work properly...
anyone got a link for battery status?
I will try to deactivate touch flo 3d and put the cube much more convenient I think, anyone tried that ?

webvan said:
same here that thing is bloody hot not to mention horrible battery life on wifi since you must use maximum power for it to work properly...
anyone got a link for battery status?
I will try to deactivate touch flo 3d and put the cube much more convenient I think, anyone tried that ?
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YES . I wanted to mention also that the Wifi sensitivity is really bad you have to crank it up to the maximum to work decently. This is a radio problem and im sure by Sept. when they release the US version rumors have it that it will have an updated ROM version from HTC tackling these issues.
I still prefers a cooked ROM

Milestone heating up when using GPS-Navigation

Hi,
when im using GPS-Navigation my Milestone always becomes very hot after a while of usage.
It does not seem to be App-dependent since it became hot when using Navigon as well as when using Sygic.
Mobile data is disabled, screen at auto-brightness and CPU at 800Mhz max.
Does this occure to someone else?
Is this normal or can it brick my phone?
I dont want anything to melt inside my phone (j/k its not that hot actually..)

yup ...
i put it in front of the car vent system so ac can coll it down
but this is common, i have a friend with a htc desire that has the same problem and same solution.

Alright thank you. So im not alone..
But could it become so hot that it damages some HW-Parts?

Mine also becomes fairly hot when using GPS and data connection - even on stock rom without any overclocking - so this seems to be "hot by design"
But I guess the heat could cause a 'bubbly' keyboard to fall apart.

m0jo said:
Alright thank you. So im not alone..
But could it become so hot that it damages some HW-Parts?
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i think so .. that's way i use that method to cool it down.

I've used the milestone gps to log my sailing activities in the sun and ambient temperatures of +30degC. Never had any problems to say the least except for the hot rear. IMO its normal for the milestone to run a bit hot coz i've also noticed similar issues when using only wifi. So don't think there is much you can do. Just thank motorola for building a tough piece of kit.

HTC One overheating

Hi I bought this phone few hours ago. After using it for a while (not heavy gaming, just browsing the options and stuffs), it gets extremely hot in the back. With a monitor app I can see that the temperature is about 45℃ . I'm on WiFi , mobile data and NFC deactivated. What it could be?

mostly its because its made out of aluminum which transfers the heat away from the internals. so it will feel hot but after a week or so it will settle down

I'm gonna wait few days and if the problem remain I will return it back. Now I'm charging it turned off and there's no overheating. Weird, what could it be?

Mine peaks at about 48degC when using navigation, or using hangouts for video call. Other than that, normal use is around 33-40degC and maybe 27-30degC from idle. Overnight its about 23-26degC according to Gsam.
It does get quite warm when you use it, but it also cools down very quickly due to the material.

Nokiacrazi said:
Mine peaks at about 48degC when using navigation, or using hangouts for video call. Other than that, normal use is around 33-40degC and maybe 27-30degC from idle. Overnight its about 23-26degC according to Gsam.
It does get quite warm when you use it, but it also cools down very quickly due to the material.
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Wow 48°C is very high! I think there's something wrong...

There's nothing wrong with that. It's all dependent on the user and his tasks. Devices with aluminum body are known to get hot rather quickly, and as mentioned earlier, it's because aluminum soaks up the heat away from the internals of the device (like the motherboard, processor and such) and therefore prolongs their lives. Plus, if you lay the phone down for like five to ten minutes it'll cool off quickly. I use the HTC Double Dip Flip Cover and I don't have to worry about that - of course it's not a viable solution since not all of us like cases, but it helps, plus I love the kick-up stand feature.

TarekElsakka said:
There's nothing wrong with that. It's all dependent on the user and his tasks. Devices with aluminum body are known to get hot rather quickly, and as mentioned earlier, it's because aluminum soaks up the heat away from the internals of the device (like the motherboard, processor and such) and therefore prolongs their lives. Plus, if you lay the phone down for like five to ten minutes it'll cool off quickly. I use the HTC Double Dip Flip Cover and I don't have to worry about that - of course it's not a viable solution since not all of us like cases, but it helps, plus I love the kick-up stand feature.
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So you think it's normal that it gets very warm after few minutes of normal use?

Unfortunately, yes, that's how it is designed to be. I used a Galaxy S3 for quite a while and believe me, hot plastic isn't fun either, especially because it stays hot for a long time and doesn't cool off quickly, and also the internals of the S3 got hot as well (not just the body) which shortens their lives and also drains the battery fast. It's the same with the S4.

solefero69 said:
So you think it's normal that it gets very warm after few minutes of normal use?
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mine got very warm for the first week or so but i was flashing a new rom everyday and i still flash very often but it doesnt get as hot as it did when i first got it

Thanks for all your answers Now my phones is pretty warm even on the screen, gonna turn it off for a while xD Maybe a software update could fix this?

Perhaps, but there aren't any software updates as far as I am aware; the only official OS is 4.1.2 at the moment. If you want to root and go for a custom ROM, I'd recommend either Android Revolution HD 10.3 (for a fully stock experience that's quicker and more stable than the stock ROM) or Trickdroid (which is basically also stock-like but has many nice tweaks and additions) - I have not experienced any overheating issues ever since I went for ARHD and then Trickdroid, but then again I only started taking note of this about a week after I bought the phone; you need to let it completely settle first and not judge so early.
Good luck

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Perhaps, but there aren't any software updates as far as I am aware; the only official OS is 4.1.2 at the moment. If you want to root and go for a custom ROM, I'd recommend either Android Revolution HD 10.3 (for a fully stock experience that's quicker and more stable than the stock ROM) or Trickdroid (which is basically also stock-like but has many nice tweaks and additions) - I have not experienced any overheating issues ever since I went for ARHD and then Trickdroid, but then again I only started taking note of this about a week after I bought the phone; you need to let it completely settle first and not judge so early.
Good luck
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Yes I'm gonna wait until Friday. Now I've turned off my phone to let him cool down. After I've turned it up, in few seconds it gets go 40°C (104°F). I've just turned it up!

solefero69 said:
Yes I'm gonna wait until Friday. Now I've turned off my phone to let him cool down. After I've turned it up, in few seconds it gets go 40°C (104°F). I've just turned it up!
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I've had my One for a couple of months now and everything you've described has been normal for me. 48 is definitely at the high end of temps I've seen on the phone, but the battery and CPU are both capable of surviving that for short periods of time very easily. If you're really concerned you can install something like CPU-Z or CPU Monitor to track the CPU frequency in real time: if the phone gets too hot (by it's own standards) you'll notice the clock throttled to lower than 1.7gHz. If its not throttling, just enjoy the warm feel
Also, when you boot the phone up as you mention, it will of course warm up quickly because its doing a lot of working turning things on and setting up again. 40 is normal use temp for me.
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solefero69 said:
Yes I'm gonna wait until Friday. Now I've turned off my phone to let him cool down. After I've turned it up, in few seconds it gets go 40°C (104°F). I've just turned it up!
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Well that seems high rather quickly. I'd wait a couple of days and monitor the temperature levels and with which activity. If things don't get better, send it in for a replacement. I'd call HTC and notify them about this and see what they recommend doing in the time being. My average temperature is 25 degrees and with browsing and such it usually increases to mid 30s.
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BTW, the quicker you drain the battery the quicker it heats up of course (for many reasons). I prefer my screen brightness at 90% and all services running all the time, which I suspect it's why mine runs at 40 while others may run normally in the 20s or 30s. What things/settings do you have going on right now?
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90% brightness and a lot of background services will most certainly increase the temperature and drain the battery quicker. I have almost every service that I do not need hibernated by Greenify and the brightness set to Auto, even Auto seems too bright for me. That most certainly helps with battery draining as well as heating issues.

Just turn Power Saver on. You won't be missing the slower CPU speed cos the GPU speed is not reduced. Most games will still play perfectly well and you won't even notice any increased lag in any app. Go into the Power settings, click on the Power Saver word, turn off what you don't want then turn Power Saver on

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Just turn Power Saver on. You won't be missing the slower CPU speed cos the GPU speed is not reduced. Most games will still play perfectly well and you won't even notice any increased lag in any app. Go into the Power settings, click on the Power Saver word, turn off what you don't want then turn Power Saver on
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Actually Power Saver mode slows my device down and the UI becomes a bit slower and a little less responsive but it's nothing annoying. In fact, whenever I miss my Galaxy I turn on Power Saver mode so I can experience the slower UI, but even then it is still faster and more responsive than TouchWiz. Haha!

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Actually Power Saver mode slows my device down and the UI becomes a bit slower and a little less responsive but it's nothing annoying. In fact, whenever I miss my Galaxy I turn on Power Saver mode so I can experience the slower UI, but even then it is still faster and more responsive than TouchWiz. Haha!
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My UI does not slow down even a little bit With Power Saver on I can still play Asphalt 7 at 60fps.

That's nice I suppose. I just turned it on for the sake of trying and you're right, the Ui is still pretty responsive and snappy. Perhaps I was talking about the One X and not this one. I am losing my memory. Lol
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HTC One - Overheating Issue

Hi guys,
Im new here and fairly new to Android coming from the iPhone (I know....what was I thinking with apple?)..
I have the first HTC One for Verizon, I love this phone and generally don't have any problems with it. I have been testing out ROMs and have been pretty successful with them but the only problem I have is after steady use, maybe 15-20 minutes the phone gets hot. (not burning my hand hot..) But just out of concern for the phone, is this normal or is it damaging to the phone? I'd like to try to make this last the 2 year contract I just bought.
- Thanks in advance

lista94 said:
Hi guys,
Im new here and fairly new to Android coming from the iPhone (I know....what was I thinking with apple?)..
I have the first HTC One for Verizon, I love this phone and generally don't have any problems with it. I have been testing out ROMs and have been pretty successful with them but the only problem I have is after steady use, maybe 15-20 minutes the phone gets hot. (not burning my hand hot..) But just out of concern for the phone, is this normal or is it damaging to the phone? I'd like to try to make this last the 2 year contract I just bought.
- Thanks in advance
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should be OK, the cover acts as heat sink, that's why you can feel the heat more than other phones. afaik, the max HTC specification temperature is 55C.
when the phone goes beyond specification temperature (eg using navigation in the car in sunlight while charging) the LED will start blinking red, and charging will be disabled to prevent damage.
EDIT: you could install an app to monitor temperature; GSAM can monitor batter & temperature
and if you use a lot of apps that use high cpu, you can think about installing a custom kernel with more "aggressive" thermal options

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should be OK, the cover acts as heat sink, that's why you can feel the heat more than other phones. afaik, the max HTC specification temperature is 55C.
when the phone goes beyond specification temperature (eg using navigation in the car in sunlight while charging) the LED will start blinking red, and charging will be disabled to prevent damage.
EDIT: you could install an app to monitor temperature; GSAM can monitor batter & temperature
and if you use a lot of apps that use high cpu, you can think about installing a custom kernel with more "aggressive" thermal options
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Oh thats good to know. Thank you for the reply. Brand new phone, I probably get a little paranoid but better safe then sorry. I will look into a custom kernel if I start to see that flashing red from overheating. Thanks again..
- Lista94

lista94 said:
Oh thats good to know. Thank you for the reply. Brand new phone, I probably get a little paranoid but better safe then sorry. I will look into a custom kernel if I start to see that flashing red from overheating. Thanks again..
- Lista94
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I've never had any problems. When running CPU intensive apps, my battery goes up to 45C but not more.
The hottest I've noticed it was using navigation in the car (but didn't check temperature as I was driving), but I almost never use that anyway.
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lista94 said:
Hi guys,
Im new here and fairly new to Android coming from the iPhone (I know....what was I thinking with apple?)..
I have the first HTC One for Verizon, I love this phone and generally don't have any problems with it. I have been testing out ROMs and have been pretty successful with them but the only problem I have is after steady use, maybe 15-20 minutes the phone gets hot. (not burning my hand hot..) But just out of concern for the phone, is this normal or is it damaging to the phone? I'd like to try to make this last the 2 year contract I just bought.
- Thanks in advance
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Htc Does fell hotter than any other android phone , yes! cause its metal it conducts heat !! , i personally think its good that it conducts heat as it cools down at a better pace than any other phone..

Htc one feels nice on the hands in the winter.

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Htc one feels nice on the hands in the winter.
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ahahahaha yeah that's why i overclocked it now.. it's getting cold outside And whenever I leave home, I change CPU Speed to 2 Ghz

LibertyMarine said:
ahahahaha yeah that's why i overclocked it now.. it's getting cold outside And whenever I leave home, I change CPU Speed to 2 Ghz
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Hahaha, up here in NYC that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. If I wasn't scared of blowing up my phone I'd attempt overclocking for extra heat.

nkk71 said:
I've never had any problems. When running CPU intensive apps, my battery goes up to 45C but not more.
The hottest I've noticed it was using navigation in the car (but didn't check temperature as I was driving), but I almost never use that anyway.
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I've found in the ROM I am running an app called Trickster MOD which displays all the temps and clock speeds. Staying steady around 40-45c depending on what I am doing. More toward 45c when playing games. I guess as someone said before, because of the metal casing you can feel the heat coming from the device. Thank you for your feedback everyone.

lista94 said:
I've found in the ROM I am running an app called Trickster MOD which displays all the temps and clock speeds. Staying steady around 40-45c depending on what I am doing. More toward 45c when playing games. I guess as someone said before, because of the metal casing you can feel the heat coming from the device. Thank you for your feedback everyone.
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LOL on the heating part :silly:
but sounds about right on the temperature, my phone also stays between 40 to 45C when using games or graphic/cpu intensive programs; i've had it since about march or april, and no adverse effects (so far?)
i almost never use navigation, but if you want to test temperature, try it, it REALLY heats up.

nkk71 said:
LOL on the heating part :silly:
but sounds about right on the temperature, my phone also stays between 40 to 45C when using games or graphic/cpu intensive programs; i've had it since about march or april, and no adverse effects (so far?)
i almost never use navigation, but if you want to test temperature, try it, it REALLY heats up.
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I use the Google Maps Navigation often cause I do alot of walking around NYC and I often get lost in my own city lol. Ive actually never noticed any feeling of heat higher then any other app. Then again I use it for short term walking, usually 20-30 minutes at most.

lista94 said:
Hahaha, up here in NYC that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. If I wasn't scared of blowing up my phone I'd attempt overclocking for extra heat.
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aahah in switzerland it's around -1°C ... so I don't need it actually.. but when I go to the mountains... with some extra batteries it's a D you know what I mean