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My diamond is getting hot - yours too?

Hi,
I'm using the diamond for a month now, and when i'm on a call for lets say an hour or less, it becomes really hot - i feel like i ll be able to cook eggs...
anybody experienced that?

LOL Yes
Wifi on helps u to oveheat your fingers in winter, really usefull xD
Srsly, gets so hot, its normal

Driskol said:
LOL Yes
Wifi on helps u to oveheat your fingers in winter, really usefull xD
Srsly, gets so hot, its normal
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actually cool wher i live ...its - 30 in wnter
but still...

Yep, gets hot but not that bad.

your rom and radio effect the temperature somehow. i remember early radios it got realy hot then 1.00.25.05 came out and it was solved.

Blazeitup123 said:
your rom and radio effect the temperature somehow. i remember early radios it got realy hot then 1.00.25.05 came out and it was solved.
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then i might consider installing a new radio version..cause it gets really hot....
when i ll be able to synch my diamond =!!!

in mine diamond temperature depends of using wi-fi
if i'm using wireless lan and the "power save mode" is turned to best batterry mode there is no such a hot....but on "best performance mode" temperature of the phone is much higher...
so i think that everything depends of wi-fi

dagi said:
in mine diamond temperature depends of using wi-fi
if i'm using wireless lan and the "power save mode" is turned to best batterry mode there is no such a hot....but on "best performance mode" temperature of the phone is much higher...
so i think that everything depends of wi-fi
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wifi is off tho...

I'm using 1.00.25.05 and I can say that if you talk over like an hour... it'll definitely be hot... heck even 15 mins get pretty warm...

yep, mine too...
I got the diamond less than a month ago, I also felt that it gets hot, especially when you're working him hard but I upgraded the ROM a week ago, and I think that it's better now...

Dr.Raja said:
I got the diamond less than a month ago, I also felt that it gets hot, especially when you're working him hard but I upgraded the ROM a week ago, and I think that it's better now...
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which radio version u using ?

Dr.Raja said:
I got the diamond less than a month ago, I also felt that it gets hot, especially when you're working him hard but I upgraded the ROM a week ago, and I think that it's better now...
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Yes, once you have found the right radio/rom combo, heat like that shouldn't happen in general use. Mine used to over heat with SwiftBl 7.5 ....don't remember the radio I had back then.....after the switch to 2.03 roms and for me, the use of 1.08.25.20, it has been running much cooler.

Come on it's 600 mhz there running *notso optimal* inside that tight case
Ever navigated 2 hours? Almost starts to shine then.
Chips can be around 85 degrees before malfunction, so let it be. You manage 50 degrees with diamond, that's safe but feels very, very hot.

cy-rock said:
Hi,
I'm using the diamond for a month now, and when i'm on a call for lets say an hour or less, it becomes really hot - i feel like i ll be able to cook eggs...
anybody experienced that?
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mine gets hot when i recharge it

My phone gets hot when in use or charging.
Doesnt bother me as its a small phone and as already stated the heat is a side effect of the componets working hard!

on a sunny day ,in the car, plugged into the car charger and running tomtom gps, homescreen plus shows 53°c after 10mins.

Well I guess it may not be any danger for the device itself but I'm pretty sure it's not very good for the battery since heat can overexcite the chemicals in the battery & shorten its overall lifespan.

off: give your phone a girl to chill him up )
on: yeah mine too when i use gps, internet and charge the battery

Mine gets hot when I turn Wifi on.

So what are your thoughts so far?

Day 3 and Im very pleased with this phone. The smoothness, speed, and non lag or freezes fills like Iphone quality. I know that the 1st complaints about WP7 was the ugly square tiles but now that Im using the OS and all that comes with it, I love it! Its all microsoft had claimed it would be. Its Very easy to manage and hassle free! Its just a breath of fresh air not having to deal with so many home screens and/or feeling like having to pass thru an obstacle course to do anything. I believe they went the wright direction with this OS, its simple looking but modern @ the same time. Transitions and effects are very smooth. My only complaint is the external sound quality of the speakers but HTC does have an audio enhancer app (free available) so lets see if that does the trick. But overall Its definitely a beautiful solid device. P.S. for those a little upset on not having a removable SD card, you do get 25g of storage on Skydrive so that kinda works out pretty good all tho I heard that it does come with a SD card, its just hidden. But it will void your warranty if you remove the sticker above it.

i have had mine for about 24 hours and yes it is a great device,cant keep my hands off it.i just cant wait for more apps and games.i would love to play tiger woods on this big screen.

the phone itself is pretty solid; the plastic back is a non-factor to me. screen is vivid enough that i dont care that it isnt amoled. although i do wish that the headphone hole is on top instead of bottom

theclueless said:
the phone itself is pretty solid; the plastic back is a non-factor to me. screen is vivid enough that i dont care that it isnt amoled. although i do wish that the headphone hole is on top instead of bottom
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I've seen many complaints about the headphone jack location-- I'm genuinely curious why you prefer that? My experience with top headphone jacks is that the cable always gets in the way of the screen.
-R

I really miss having LED notifications and for me the battery life is TERRIBLE. Just using my phone for texts and emails all day at work im down to nothing and have to charge it. This is NO browsing or media at all. I feel thats bad.

Headphone hole on top or bottom for me i dont mind but coming off the Samsung Vibrant its a relief to have the usb on the bottom cause charging the phone in the car and talking on the Vibrant at the same time was a pain.

just came back from the T-Mobile store and I have to say this phone is even better than I expected. Microsoft has really done an amazing job for this mobile OS. I never thought I would ever see Microsoft eclipsing iOS when it comes to fluid and seamless user experience but WP7 has done exactly that. Those that said Microsoft is not going after Android but iOS, they were absolutely right.
I just couldn't believe that I was actually enjoying such speed on a last gen cpu based phone whereas the MT4G just sitting next to it seemed like last gen, weird! Pinch to zoom is even better than the Apple 4G and just the overall experience feels very next gen as I'm just tired of the endless widget based UI, but that's just me. To those that are still sitting on the fence, I just want to say that before you make a decision based on forums and youtube videos, go to your nearest T-Mobile store and test the HD7 out for yourself. I'm glad I did.

1 full day
I'm liking it pretty well. Here is a couple of things:
The voice dialing is dead on, but it looks like I have to go back thru my 1200 contacts and change all the "car" #'s to "other" because they are not showing up...it may confuse it to have a "mobile" # and a "car" # for the same contact.
It appears to have really good reception (I have used a Fuze, Sprint Epic, G2, and MyTouch 4G from the basement of a custom home our company is building and the HD7 has done the best on pulling in a signal).
From what I have looked at on the Market, it appears that many apps are just not prime time yet, but let's hope they get better.
One thing I REALLY want to see is Speech to Text on this phone. If they could get Dragon Dictate like whats on the MyTouch 4G, this phone would be exactly what I would want in a phone.
I'll add some more later.

this phone provides the best 'out of the box' experience that I've ever had - by a long way.... Simply unpack and start using, very little modification necessary once you get used to the live tiles.
I do wonder if I'm going to get a bit bored with it though.... part of my 6.5.x enjoyment was 1) *****ing about poor performance and then 2) doing my best to resolve said performance issues. Don't think this is going to be necessary with the HD7 - as it just works.
not a bad problem to have I guess......

sketchy9 said:
I've seen many complaints about the headphone jack location-- I'm genuinely curious why you prefer that? My experience with top headphone jacks is that the cable always gets in the way of the screen.
-R
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Yeah, Holes are supposed to be on the bottom. Even mother nature knows that!!

harsaphes said:
I really miss having LED notifications and for me the battery life is TERRIBLE. Just using my phone for texts and emails all day at work im down to nothing and have to charge it. This is NO browsing or media at all. I feel thats bad.
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I'm hearing that a lot, that's not good.

I agree with that, the battery could be better. I still dont understand why they keep building these awesome devices with poor battery life.

DJ Lu said:
I agree with that, the battery could be better. I still dont understand why they keep building these awesome devices with poor battery life.
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trying to keep the phones as thin as possible.

DJ Lu said:
I agree with that, the battery could be better. I still dont understand why they keep building these awesome devices with poor battery life.
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WP7 is awesome. But I hate this battery!

harsaphes said:
I really miss having LED notifications and for me the battery life is TERRIBLE. Just using my phone for texts and emails all day at work im down to nothing and have to charge it. This is NO browsing or media at all. I feel thats bad.
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I don't have this problem. I streamed tmobile tv for half a day and only 1/4 of the battery was gone, that include browsing, play twin blade, use voice search, voice dial, looking up maps, making phone calls and textings.
Did you guys bleed your battery first or just charged it to full and started using it?

DJ Lu said:
I agree with that, the battery could be better. I still dont understand why they keep building these awesome devices with poor battery life.
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i found a 1500mha battery made by htc and fits like oem.. the htc wildfire uses it.. gonna go ahead and order that one.
tonight it was the first time taking pics in the dark and i have to say the flash is to damn intense.. need to be far from object otherwise u blind the **** out of people, lol ..there is no brightness setting ...i also found the camera botton not that soft to press ..u have to kinda press it some how a bit hard .. im gonna have to go back to store and check the other hd7

Gotta say, after the first few day's use, the battery on my wife's phone is doing really well. Don't get me wrong, she's not hammering it during the day, although I do in the evening, but last night it still had about 1/3 of the battery left (according to the little icon anyway which is infuriatingly difficult to interpret!).
The bigger battery sounds promising though!

ajftl said:
i found a 1500mha battery made by htc and fits like oem.. the htc wildfire uses it.. gonna go ahead and order that one.
tonight it was the first time taking pics in the dark and i have to say the flash is to damn intense.. need to be far from object otherwise u blind the **** out of people, lol ..there is no brightness setting ...i also found the camera botton not that soft to press ..u have to kinda press it some how a bit hard .. im gonna have to go back to store and check the other hd7
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are you sure it fits? let us know if it works, if it does work ill buy one too.

Searching Google lists many 1500mha batteries for the HD7..now im curious.
Just ordered one. We will see.

The biggest battery saving step I took was going into settings->email and accounts, and for each account, making sure 'download content' wasn't set to 'as they arrive'.
Unless push email is vital to you, this changed my phone from lasting about 6 hours to lasting 48.

[Q] should i buy this ...thing ?

Hi guys,
i am thinking to buy optimus 2x or desire s. (they both cost almost the same, minor diff), i dont even dare call optimus 2x a phone anymore
desire s:
cool looking, metal body, great size,
BUT sucky camera, non rootable without xtc clip, no devs working on it, and some battery cover problems (squeaky)
optimus 2x:
LOTS of devs (which im hoping will fix the reboot issue), CM (yeaa!), great camera, hardware etc...
BUT its rebooting, getting very hot (for many), screen backlight bleeding and generaly unstable phone... my only gripes with it.
im so lost. any advice is VERY appreciated

The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.

tickler136 said:
The hardware for the Desire S is a real let-down IMHO. I've found my O2X to be stable generally, the early nightlies of CM7 weren't great but after about 10 they really improved. LG's software sucks but the phone is still usable, if laggy.
I've had no heat issue (if anything it runs cooler than my old Desire, if not my DEXT). Likewise the screen bleeding issue. I wouldn't choose any other phone right now.
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and if i may ask, for how long have you had your o2x ?

Looolll.
Is like comparing a Toyota with a Ferrari....
Ofcourse LG O2X.
I have mine since day one of release.
Some times (once a week or in 2 weeks) BSOD.
Phone never gets warm or what so ever.
Kept it stock for a long time. Rooted my phone like 2 weeks ago.
Just for Adfree, nothing else.

Had mine for a week. Stabile as rock! Not one reboot. No heat issues.
I have frozen antivirus and drivemehome (perhaps those who make the device reboot??)
My battery is good for 2 days with moderate use on 2G network. Have disabled 3G...
The backlight bleeding is a problem with all LCD screen more or less. I dont know why you want to stare at the screen while its pitch black in a room without light... I have some bleeding, but never bothers me. It is usually something to see in the screen

and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option

xilw3r said:
and what about the other loads of ppl who have bsod 5 times per day :| ?
i just really dont want want to go wrong with this because return is not an option
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Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.

xmoo said:
Just play with your phone hardcore for 3 days.
If any BSOD, REBOOT, hot tempure will occure you can go to the store en switch the phone.
And if your phone has these issues, I think you will notice it on the hardcore 3 day use.
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I would do the opposite actually. Using the phone will give you no issues, it's only when left alone that the problems occur.
I seriously wouldn't risk this phone to be honest. You're guaranteed to have issues in one way or another, and you shouldn't have to root and void your warranty to get a reliable phone.

IMHO, if you can wait, I would suggest waiting 6 weeks to 2 months to see how the dual-core phone scene pans out. I think gingerbread would likely be on LG2X by then, as would improved stability on other dual-core phones as well. Also, like all electronic products, the longer you wait to buy - the cheaper they become.

keep in mind that some people had the O2X for 3 weeks before they started getting reboots/ freezes and BSOD. Just saying

Just you wait a little more while. CM7 will be as stable as a rock soon enough.
IMO. The Desire S should be around 2/3 the price of O2X to make it any worthy compared to O2X. It's just an upgraded version of the original Desire with a high pricetag.

The desire and incredible s work out of the box though. Without random reboots and freezes. If you just want a phone that works, I would go with the desire.
The 2x is great hardware for the money, but hardware isn't everything. I'm saying if you were concerned about problems, this really isn't the handset for you. Because you are 99% guaranteed to have issues.
If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
It still hasn't been fully determined if anyone running stock, no root, no changes haven't had issues. Checking the various threads, I can't see anyone using stock that doesn't have issues. Most have either rooted and frozen apps, or put a complete new rom on.
If there are people running stock and don't have issues, they are a minority at best.
The op is saying a return isn't really an option to them. If so, then look elsewhere.

I hacked the **** out of it. And I love it. I could get an sgs2 but I didnt and thats saying a lot.
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Go for the o2x really great phone, had mine since day 1 and its never let me down, really glad i choose this over both desire s and sgs2
Hope this helps u decide, and let us know what u get.
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thanks guys. idk, i think im more leaning towards optimus 2x now, cuz of CM mostly, but then again, the size is kinda huge especially for a 4 inch screen.
and 1 more question, hows the audio quality through headphones ? i read in gsmarena that stereo crosstalk is pretty awful, what do you people think ? its kind of important cuz i always use my phone as a music player

Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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If you are buying this with the intention to hack the hell out of it, you might be ok. You can't beat it's hardware to price ratio.
Don't even think about running this phone on stock if that is your intention.
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goatee said:
Why isn't the stock ROM an option? My first handset had to be replaced on day one. My replacement has BSOD once in a month. BSOD aside, the stock ROM really aint that bad - the LG home app isn't so great, but replace it with Go Launcher (or Launcher Pro or. . . ) and it's fine.
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lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)

xilw3r said:
lol this bsod stuff looks so god darn random, i wish it was more concentrated so ppl could determine the ultimate cause.
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You're not the only one!
xilw3r said:
btw another Q, hows the call quality ? and still: hows the sound through headphones ( is the stereo cross talk bearable ? cuz gsmarena said its pretty sucky, wondering how is it in real life situations)
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I've found the call quality to be fine - in quiet situations, it's excellent, in noise situations it's fine. I've not used the handsfree, so don't know how calls are through headphones, but music is aok .

goatee said:
but music is aok .
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thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?

Np - I use my own - Goldring NS1000.
xilw3r said:
thanks do you use the supplied headphones or your own ?
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HTC One - Overheating Issue

Hi guys,
Im new here and fairly new to Android coming from the iPhone (I know....what was I thinking with apple?)..
I have the first HTC One for Verizon, I love this phone and generally don't have any problems with it. I have been testing out ROMs and have been pretty successful with them but the only problem I have is after steady use, maybe 15-20 minutes the phone gets hot. (not burning my hand hot..) But just out of concern for the phone, is this normal or is it damaging to the phone? I'd like to try to make this last the 2 year contract I just bought.
- Thanks in advance

lista94 said:
Hi guys,
Im new here and fairly new to Android coming from the iPhone (I know....what was I thinking with apple?)..
I have the first HTC One for Verizon, I love this phone and generally don't have any problems with it. I have been testing out ROMs and have been pretty successful with them but the only problem I have is after steady use, maybe 15-20 minutes the phone gets hot. (not burning my hand hot..) But just out of concern for the phone, is this normal or is it damaging to the phone? I'd like to try to make this last the 2 year contract I just bought.
- Thanks in advance
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should be OK, the cover acts as heat sink, that's why you can feel the heat more than other phones. afaik, the max HTC specification temperature is 55C.
when the phone goes beyond specification temperature (eg using navigation in the car in sunlight while charging) the LED will start blinking red, and charging will be disabled to prevent damage.
EDIT: you could install an app to monitor temperature; GSAM can monitor batter & temperature
and if you use a lot of apps that use high cpu, you can think about installing a custom kernel with more "aggressive" thermal options

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should be OK, the cover acts as heat sink, that's why you can feel the heat more than other phones. afaik, the max HTC specification temperature is 55C.
when the phone goes beyond specification temperature (eg using navigation in the car in sunlight while charging) the LED will start blinking red, and charging will be disabled to prevent damage.
EDIT: you could install an app to monitor temperature; GSAM can monitor batter & temperature
and if you use a lot of apps that use high cpu, you can think about installing a custom kernel with more "aggressive" thermal options
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Oh thats good to know. Thank you for the reply. Brand new phone, I probably get a little paranoid but better safe then sorry. I will look into a custom kernel if I start to see that flashing red from overheating. Thanks again..
- Lista94

lista94 said:
Oh thats good to know. Thank you for the reply. Brand new phone, I probably get a little paranoid but better safe then sorry. I will look into a custom kernel if I start to see that flashing red from overheating. Thanks again..
- Lista94
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I've never had any problems. When running CPU intensive apps, my battery goes up to 45C but not more.
The hottest I've noticed it was using navigation in the car (but didn't check temperature as I was driving), but I almost never use that anyway.
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lista94 said:
Hi guys,
Im new here and fairly new to Android coming from the iPhone (I know....what was I thinking with apple?)..
I have the first HTC One for Verizon, I love this phone and generally don't have any problems with it. I have been testing out ROMs and have been pretty successful with them but the only problem I have is after steady use, maybe 15-20 minutes the phone gets hot. (not burning my hand hot..) But just out of concern for the phone, is this normal or is it damaging to the phone? I'd like to try to make this last the 2 year contract I just bought.
- Thanks in advance
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Htc Does fell hotter than any other android phone , yes! cause its metal it conducts heat !! , i personally think its good that it conducts heat as it cools down at a better pace than any other phone..

Htc one feels nice on the hands in the winter.

RossKrowedom said:
Htc one feels nice on the hands in the winter.
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ahahahaha yeah that's why i overclocked it now.. it's getting cold outside And whenever I leave home, I change CPU Speed to 2 Ghz

LibertyMarine said:
ahahahaha yeah that's why i overclocked it now.. it's getting cold outside And whenever I leave home, I change CPU Speed to 2 Ghz
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Hahaha, up here in NYC that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. If I wasn't scared of blowing up my phone I'd attempt overclocking for extra heat.

nkk71 said:
I've never had any problems. When running CPU intensive apps, my battery goes up to 45C but not more.
The hottest I've noticed it was using navigation in the car (but didn't check temperature as I was driving), but I almost never use that anyway.
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I've found in the ROM I am running an app called Trickster MOD which displays all the temps and clock speeds. Staying steady around 40-45c depending on what I am doing. More toward 45c when playing games. I guess as someone said before, because of the metal casing you can feel the heat coming from the device. Thank you for your feedback everyone.

lista94 said:
I've found in the ROM I am running an app called Trickster MOD which displays all the temps and clock speeds. Staying steady around 40-45c depending on what I am doing. More toward 45c when playing games. I guess as someone said before, because of the metal casing you can feel the heat coming from the device. Thank you for your feedback everyone.
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LOL on the heating part :silly:
but sounds about right on the temperature, my phone also stays between 40 to 45C when using games or graphic/cpu intensive programs; i've had it since about march or april, and no adverse effects (so far?)
i almost never use navigation, but if you want to test temperature, try it, it REALLY heats up.

nkk71 said:
LOL on the heating part :silly:
but sounds about right on the temperature, my phone also stays between 40 to 45C when using games or graphic/cpu intensive programs; i've had it since about march or april, and no adverse effects (so far?)
i almost never use navigation, but if you want to test temperature, try it, it REALLY heats up.
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I use the Google Maps Navigation often cause I do alot of walking around NYC and I often get lost in my own city lol. Ive actually never noticed any feeling of heat higher then any other app. Then again I use it for short term walking, usually 20-30 minutes at most.

lista94 said:
Hahaha, up here in NYC that doesn't sound like such a bad idea. If I wasn't scared of blowing up my phone I'd attempt overclocking for extra heat.
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aahah in switzerland it's around -1°C ... so I don't need it actually.. but when I go to the mountains... with some extra batteries it's a D you know what I mean

Bad performance and other good/bad things (P10 Plus)

I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
These are really just my opinions, and you are free to disagree. Even I might change my mind if there are really good reasons to!
I might as well add that paid about $860 (in Norway) for my P10 Plus while Galaxy S8+ costs "slightly more" (about $1,000). I just feel like I got so little in return for the price I paid.
I have to decide by tomorrow anyway whether to keep this device or return it, and I am currently leaning towards returning it.
Thanks for any tips, advices, opinions, etc.
Good things:
Responsive fingerprint reader on the front side, unlocks screen pretty much instantly.
Has a nice shape (like an iPhone 7). No annoying sharp edges except at the bottom holes for connectors, where I support the device with my pinky finger.
Lots of camera settings.
My device luckily has UFS 2.1.
Pretty good WiFi speed (measured more than 200 Mbps during internet speed test).
The DAC's quality is okay (not very good). A little bit of noise when using my sensitive in-ear headphones, but it's very bearable. This is only a "good" point because it's an upgrade from my old phone.
Bad things:
I already found some sluggish menus on day one.
Somewhat bad performance when taking photos and shooting videos, even playing back videos I captured is somewhat choppy.
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
The swiping on the fingerprint reader is a bit of a hit and miss because it might register a tap which means "back" (or exit).
Photos taken and saved as JPEG look bad. RAW images look quite a bit better but it takes seconds to save each image.
My GFXBench result is pretty bad compared to other devices.
Nitpicking:
The edge of the screen protector is so annoying I want to take it off. Note: If you do it, you might want to apply oleophobic coating.
I wish the fingerprint sensor indentation was a bit less deep, because it makes the swiping motion feel less comfortable. The screen protector is probably most of the reason though.
I was never able to transfer app data (only apps themselves) from my old device using any method suggested by Huawei. The thing that did work was a backup/restore using adb.
USB 2 is pretty slow after getting used to USB 3.
The device sometimes thinks that I am using a knuckle gesture when I am using the tip of my finger.

sometimes very laggy also. And some apps not compatible with the camera.

Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..

nougn said:
Turns out that I am stuck with this device due to the shop's no-return policy on phones. I might as well begin training my mind to like the device. Won't feel guilty about rooting and trying custom ROMs now either.
@patriotzhou I think after a couple days, I am noticing the stuttering less for some reason..
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Camera send not so good to me, maybe I don't know how to use it

nougn said:
I have been using P10 Plus (6/128 GB) for a day, and I am trying really hard to like it. I haven't found all the good/bad points yet but the list of bad things is already kind of outweighing the list of good things. Were my expectations really just too high?
Bad things:
The device gets pretty hot during "normal" (in my opinion light) use, and really hot while charging and during "heavy" (in my opinion normal) use.
Seems like the battery drains more quickly than I expected as well (larger battery does not make it much or any better than P10) so that I still need to bring an extra battery with me if I intend to use mobile data and GPS.
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Pretty much this phone is unusable due these 2 things, battery life is poor as AF, and from my perspective, Huawei messed up EMUI 5.1 really hard.
Probably an update would fix it, but we don't have ETA yet.
I will return back the P10 Plus because I think is not worth it, and I will buy a Mate 9 Pro that is virtually the same device, but battery life is so much better.

@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device

Craphead said:
@nougn Which firmware are you on? In terms of battery life the phone may not be the best, but from my experience its also not bad either. 6 hours DOT should be possible unless you are a heavy gamer. However what you said about the device getting hot that does sound like it may have faulty hardware, I'd be careful with that. You should grab an app monitoring CPU and battery temperatures. If you come to the conclusion that the device is getting warmer than it should I'd contact Huawei on the matter. What I find most bizarre is that you say the performance is laggy at times, I never experienced even just the slightest lag no matter what I do, it is smooth as silk in every situation. Maybe another indication for faulty hardware.......? On a side note: the price you paid seems really high, a lot of commercial seller on ebay offer it for a lot less than that... but anyhow if you really wanted to get rid of the device you could always sell it on ebay or something, no? So you're never actually "stuck" with a device
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This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.

Galaxo60 said:
when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it

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One has to keep in mind though that temperatures like that are impossible to reach in summer (unless its a very cold summer), the device can never be cooler than the air surrounding it
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Well, I'm talking about my room, which has air conditioning, and I just bought the P10 Plus and today I returned it back.
Problem solved, I got my money back, and I'm trying to see which phone to get, but pretty much I don' t like what I see in the market now.

Galaxo60 said:
This device always works in high temperatures, and is really easy for it to get hot. Use the camera more than 3 minutes and it will start to feel uncomfortable on hand.
I had the same experience, poor battery life and device most of the time hot. I checked the temperatures and is around 30°C on stand by, and after some minutes of WhatsApp and news, it was reaching 40°C, which is not normal at all, when my previous phone was around 18°C on stand by and 25°C in normal usage.
I'm used to stick with cold devices and is one of the first things I noticed when I used this device, and is a pretty common problem among many users. Most of the people would say that is only "warm", but I had the Mate 9 as well, with the same specs, and trust me, it was an ice cube the whole time.
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The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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Bromsoket said:
The standby drain is crazy and as you said the phone gets really hot when using the camera more than a few minutes.
Also one more problem is when the phone reach certain temperature the wide aperture effect in the gallery will stop working..
It's a pity since I like this phone in many ways and the camera is great.
But if Huawei don't fix it (very) soon i may be "forced" to sell it and get another one..
Almost regret that I sold my old Mate 8..
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Today I returned my P10 Plus, for me there's no excuse to pay so much for a phone that has basic problems.
I will see if I get a Mate 9 Pro or any other phone, but I'm kind of picky when getting a new device.

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Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.

nougn said:
Thank you for your advices! The current version is VKY-L29C432B150 (latest).
Sorry for the late response. I have been traveling for the past few days.
I decided to bring this phone with me on vacation to Japan where it is currently very humid and it feels like 33+ degrees C (91+ degrees F) in the sun. Trying to use mobile data, GPS and Google Maps is not exactly pleasant for my hand. The worst part is trying to take some photos because the device's temperature gets uncomfortably high for my hand. Will try to measure the temperatures next time I go out!
I am also really glad that I brought an extra battery, although the output of the extra battery (per port) is just enough (2.4A) to keep the device's battery percentage stable while using mobile data and GPS (goes up when idle).
I also guessed hardware defect, but it now seems like I am not the only one with problems. I really hope that Huawei can fix some things in the software, including the heat issue.
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You should post your experiences in the battery thread, so it could have more visibility and people can start to acknowledge this, would be really nice from you to do it.
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Different screens
The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...

ludensen said:
The P10 plus has a IPS LCD screen
The Mate 9 pro has a AMO-LED screen
maybe that adds to the difference in SOT for the two Huawei devices...
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I'm sorry, but there is no way that the screen technology is the decisive factor between 3 and 6 hours SOT.

ludensen said:
adds to the difference
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Galaxo60 said:
decisive factor
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That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!

ludensen said:
That's how you choose to read my post - but not what I wrote, IMHO
My point is to raise awareness about the different screen technologies, because I've seen more than one comparison where the two devices are said to use the same screen (probably because of same size and res.), but that is plain WRONG!
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I understand your point, but still having AMOLED display means nothing in 2017. You can see the HTC U11 with LCD and has pretty goddamn battery life. You can have the normal Mate 9 with IPS and also has a really nice battery life. Right now screen technologies are really mature and it doesn't influence much (or at all) what kind is on a phone.

@Galaxo60
Point taken

Came from S8, I used it for a couple of months and now Im using P10 Plus.
Im more than happy now with P10+.

I have had my P10 Plus for about 2 months now and I can tell you I get around 5 hours of SOT with 1-2 of gaming. The battery stays at 100% for about 15 minutes regardless what I do and then begins to drop. Somehow form 70% downwards it starts to really slow its discharge rate. You might worry about this but the honest truth is that I can make it at the end of each day (around midnight) with around 15-20% battery left. For me this is more than enough as I recharge my phone every night.
I would suggest you stop worrying about your phone dying on you and just start using it. Also use Phone Manager once a day and you'll be good to go.
Hope it helps.