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Setting default input and keeping it.

Ok I have searched and not run across anything without reading every thread in here.
How do I change my default input method from keyboard to letter recognizer and MAKE it stick.
I change it i the input menu and reg edits but every time I soft reset it is back.

...we're on the same boat :?

Join the club!
I'm after the phone pad so I can still use the 8125/Wiz screen as a normal phone keypad at times and not have to whip out the stylus.

whatever you do, dont use registry wizard to set it... I white screened a week ago doing that, hard reset

hope to find a solution

Perhaps this:
HKCU\ControlPanel\SIP
DefaultIM {42429667-.... or one of the others {42429690- {42429691-
Look in the neighborhoud HKCR\CLSID\{424296...... for the others.
Cheers
edit: In case it wasn't clear you need to fill in the whole CLSID in the DefaultIM string value. So {42429667- including the } at the end.
It should work after a soft reset (gone with a hard reset)

Any Solutions to this yet?
Thanks
Jules

I'm joining the club too
I'm on a Charmer, I used to able to change the Letter Reg SIP as default before I upgraded my ROM. I thought I'm the only one.

i'm triing to change the reg value with total commander and with wizard reg but after a restart the phone hang on white screen... someone can help me?
i want to use nullkb as default probably is not possible?

jmel said:
whatever you do, dont use registry wizard to set it... I white screened a week ago doing that, hard reset
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hrm.....
dromico said:
i'm triing to change the reg value with total commander and with wizard reg but after a restart the phone hang on white screen... someone can help me?
i want to use nullkb as default probably is not possible?
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cant say i didnt warn you?

jmel said:
cant say i didnt warn you?
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yes but i make a hard reset after the first try (manually change registry with tcmd) and i try in another way...white screen in every try

lost in translation...
I was saying that if you TRY to use registry wizard to set it, you will get a white screen, and be left having to HARD RESET....

Not the best solution, but perhaps you could use my program SwitchSip to change the SIP on every soft reset. I don't know if it'll stick though, I've never tried...
V
http://forum.xda-developers.com/vie...&postdays=0&postorder=asc&highlight=sipswitch

thanks i try with your program, i never search the forum enough if i don't found your post.
i don't know why there is no possiblity to change default IM in the WM configuration.

Everything is listed here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other "Set default SIP"

tweakradje said:
Everything is listed here: http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=WM5_Tweaks_Other "Set default SIP"
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I think we've all tried the method. Read the posts above carefully.

Just as a problem recap: the default SIP reghack no longer works on AKU2 ROMS. The kbd default occurs after a soft reset no matter what you have changed the registry value to.
I'm working on this one too. I coded up a program that quickly set the SIP to block recognizer and exited figuring I could just add it to the startup programs folder to switch over after a soft reset.
However, while this program works just great normally, it doesn't change the SIP when run at startup. I am working on why this is, currently. So far I've determined that my program is able to find the block recognizer SIP so the SIP dll is loaded. Tomorrow I may get a few more minutes to work on it. I'll code my program to check to see if it correctly set the SIP to block recognizer and re-attempt to change until it's successful. I'm guessing that this will have no effect on the issue since my current working theory is that the kbd default is set sometime after the startup programs run.

Guys, I don't know whether my app worked or not, but this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/viewtopic.php?p=317635#317635
seems to suggest it did. I don't have a wizard to test it on though
V

@vijay555:
I've got my little app set up on my today screen so I can just tap it quickly after everything's loaded to change my sip but it won't work if I drop it into my startup folder.
Perhaps this is what the poster you refer to is doing? Does your program check the default SIP using SipGetCurrentIM after you switch to see if the operation worked? Or do you just check for an error code after calling SipSetCurrentIM. Me, I'm just checking for an error currently and am not getting one.

Sleuth255: I really can't remember how I did it, I wrote it in c++ before I could program in c++, somehow. I'm on a promise to rewrite it sometime, and turn it into VJSipSwitch, for now it's merely a bastard child.
However, despite this, it's also designed to be configured as a shortcut to be launched from a hardware key or shortcut... if it becomes an issue, I'll look over the code again.
V

Turn off T9 by default

Hello,
I used the search and Google to look for an option to turn T9 off, but I couldn't find anything. I'm currently using the Full QWERTY keyboard on my MDA Compact IV and by default it has T9 on, which I really don't like. Every time I start writing a text or something else I have to switch to the ABC mode.
So basicly my question is: Is it possible to change the default setting of these modes? T9 is on by default, but I want to be off by default and ABC mode on by default. I hope someone can help me.
Also on another note, is it possible to show 'Tasks' in the start menu instead of just 'Calendar'. Now I have to click on 'Start', 'Calendar' and after that on 'Tasks'. I just want it to be right there. I'm by the way guessing those are the menu names, since I'm using a Dutch version. It's called 'Taken' and 'Agenda' on my phone.
Thanks in advance.

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Doesn't anyone know how to do this? Is it even possible?

Same here...is there somebody who knows a solution????

Really NOBODY?????

I've been trying to look for an option to change in the registry. So far I haven't been able to find anything. So, is there someone else out there who knows how to help us ?

There is a cab file here for disabling t9, the problem is that it doesn't disable only t9 in full qwerty, but in all the keyboards, and on the standard keypad version you only get numbers. not very convenient...

mean-machine said:
There is a cab file here for disabling t9, the problem is that it doesn't disable only t9 in full qwerty, but in all the keyboards, and on the standard keypad version you only get numbers. not very convenient...
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And by the standard keypad you mean the keypad of the actual phone? That's not convenient at all. I wouldn't removing T9 from all the keyboards though. I have never used it and probably never will, since I just don't like it.

To disable XT9 Windows Mobile:
Go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value from "1" to "0".
Works on my diamond, hope this is what you're looking for

capdew said:
To disable XT9 Windows Mobile:
Go to HKLM\SOFTWARE\Tegic\eT9\ and change the key "XT9SupportMSSip" from value from "1" to "0".
Works on my diamond, hope this is what you're looking for
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Hm, that didn't work for me. It was also on "0" for me by default, so I tried setting it to "1". That didn't work for me either.

Hi guys,
to turn off T9 by default change the value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\CarrierDefaultTextMode
from "1" to "0"

kasikm said:
Hi guys,
to turn off T9 by default change the value:
HKLM\Software\Tegic\eT9\IME\CarrierDefaultTextMode
from "1" to "0"
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Wow, thanks a lot kasikm! That's exactly what I wanted!

What I would like is the opposite...I would like T9 active by default. I use Compact QWERTY and sometimes T9 is on and sometimes it isn't.

How to setup keyboard?

I really don't understand because of all the screen shots I have seen but today I got my diamond and I only have the double keyed keybord ,but I want the full,usally in the screens shots there is a boten that you press and it changes the keybord.But i don't have it,so I went to settings keyboard and tried changing it to full qwerty,but no luck,can anyone help?

There should be a triangular looking icon next to the keyboard icon when you are in texting/email/document/etc mode. You click that icon, then a list pops up for you to select the input method.
I'd like to think that you've looked through the included instruction manual...

Thanks man,a minute after a posted this thread a have read the manual ,so Im embarrassed to say sorry for posting this

same problem...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409549
i'm not able to click on that small icon. I used to be able to !!!
i click the icon, it just brings up the "keyboard", no list to select from (like it used to).
can anyone help?
BR
Darrell

darrelluk said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=409549
i'm not able to click on that small icon. I used to be able to !!!
i click the icon, it just brings up the "keyboard", no list to select from (like it used to).
can anyone help?
BR
Darrell
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Might not work.. but just a suggestion, try it out if you have the time.
Recalibrate the screen.
Start - Settings - System
Screen
It's a long shot.. but hey.. you never know what might work.

tried that...
Hi LordRaj...
I tried that, but still no luck...
If I go to Start > Settings > Input, then I can see the list of keyboards. No matter which one I select it *always* puts it back to "keyboard".
not sure why, i'm using standard ROM that came with the phone.
help!
BR
Darrell

darrelluk said:
Hi LordRaj...
I tried that, but still no luck...
If I go to Start > Settings > Input, then I can see the list of keyboards. No matter which one I select it *always* puts it back to "keyboard".
not sure why, i'm using standard ROM that came with the phone.
help!
BR
Darrell
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I have the same problem and there's another thread on this subject. There seems to be a few people now with this but no solution yet. If you look on the other thread, there is a utility called SIPChange which will allow you to make sure you get the "right" keyboard you want as default but in terms of selecting from the little arrow, forget it (until someone can work out which registry entries are causing this).
Gary.

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Hi Gary,
Thanks for the reply...
I have been trying to figure it out all day...

Hi Gents, did anyone get this to work, I have also tried sipchange with the same results, it won't stick to any other keyboard other than diamond or builtin

iggy said:
Hi Gents, did anyone get this to work, I have also tried sipchange with the same results, it won't stick to any other keyboard other than diamond or builtin
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when you say it won't stick, do you mean it changes back after a soft reset? I had that trouble with my current ROM but sipchange fixed it. try increasing the loading delay in sipchange.
I use TouchPal now which sets itself as default just fine - and I can't imagine needing any other keyboard again!

Davey101 said:
when you say it won't stick, do you mean it changes back after a soft reset? I had that trouble with my current ROM but sipchange fixed it. try increasing the loading delay in sipchange.
I use TouchPal now which sets itself as default just fine - and I can't imagine needing any other keyboard again!
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Thanks Davey101, tried the default 10secs, then 20secs and it did not work, after your advice I switched to 30sec and softReset, then 40sec the same affect.
Then I remembered in my Apache their was always a sipchange shortcut in Startup and when I checked the Diamond their was none, so I created one with the Set parm as my Apache, softreset and I am good to go.

4 Concerns about SMS

Hey All,
I have 4 concerns about SMS that I need anyone to share his/her knowledge with them.
Is there anyway to start sms in an ABC Mode? (Not T9)
Second is there any registry setting that I can change so sms starts in the writing field not the phone number field?
Third, is there a way so I can I always enable CAPS to be always on??
Forth Is there any registry editing that can make the first letter I write in an sms to be a capital letter one? or any letter wrote after a (.) for example to be capital?
Please anyone shares his experience about these concerns.
Thanks.

Shouma said:
Is there anyway to start sms in an ABC Mode? (Not T9)
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If you change to T9, or ABC, it should remember next time you write a message
Shouma said:
is there a way so I can I always enable CAPS to be always on?? (Not T9)
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Depends on which keyboard, try pressing CAP button twice
Shouma said:
Forth Is there any registry editing that can make the first letter I write in an sms to be a capital letter one? or any letter wrote after a (.) for example to be capital?)
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Should happen as default

You need to leave a space so that it puts a capital letter after a punctuation mark.

Shaady said:
You need to leave a space so that it puts a capital letter after a punctuation mark.
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good point it does capitals the same as a normal PC using Microsoft Word.

Thanks mugglesquop and Shaady for responding...
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If you change to T9, or ABC, it should remember next time you write a message
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Actually I always use ABC...and everytime I start to write a message I get the default T9 enabled :x
mugglesquop said:
Depends on which keyboard, try pressing CAP button twice
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Nah...When I press CAPS twice it turns into the Small letters mode and then back to CAPS..which keyboard can do this?!
mugglesquop said:
Should happen as default
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Not the case here also It does so when I write an appointment or something in the calendar...but It dont work when I write an SMS...
Shaady: I will try leaving a space after the (.) to capitalize the letter..however, it dont capitalize the first letter I write in the sms dialog.
Thanks dudes,
But how can I check the registry settings of the keyboard are right or not?
Much appreciated.

not sure on reg settings. what ROM are u using?
i use the 'Full QWERTY' keyboard, and tapping on the CAPS/shift key twice changes to caps lock.

mugglesquop said:
not sure on reg settings. what ROM are u using?
i use the 'Full QWERTY' keyboard, and tapping on the CAPS/shift key twice changes to caps lock.
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I use the original 1.93.737.1 ROM m8.
Maybe bec. u use the Full Qwerty keyboard it saves the T9/ABC mode for the next time you starts it bec. I tried it and It worked.
However, I use Compact Qwerty and it never saves status of the ABC/T9 Mode I use...It always starts with T9.

Shouma said:
I use the original 1.93.737.1 ROM m8.
Maybe bec. u use the Full Qwerty keyboard it saves the T9/ABC mode for the next time you starts it bec. I tried it and It worked.
However, I use Compact Qwerty and it never saves status of the ABC/T9 Mode I use...It always starts with T9.
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ah right, yeh i only use Full QWERTY
sorry cant help!

Any fix for improper display of words while typing

i have been trying all the roms from topix , energy , xannytech, miri, maryone ...but almost 99 % of the roms have the problem as shown in the image.
when i type something in the keypad , some other word gets highlighted and some other word is displayed ....
but once i press spacebar in the keypad the "wgat" from the display changes to "what"
i have tried searching for the fix in google and xda site too.but havent found anything to fix this.
as of now only two roms dont have this problem
RUU_Duttys_HD_WM6.5_Sense_2.1_Holy_Grail_R0 and
Energy.BLACKSTONE.23529.Sense2.1.16.Feb.2010
( i may be wrong here , but i have tried nearly ten roms in the last month.)
i have attached two images . you can see the difference ..( 1st is improper , 2nd is proper )
so is there any fix for this problem...any help would be greatly appreciated...
thanks

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i have been trying all the roms from topix , energy , xannytech, miri, maryone ...but almost 99 % of the roms have the problem as shown in the image.
when i type something in the keypad , some other word gets highlighted and some other word is displayed ....
i have tried searching for the fix in google and xda site too.but havent found anything to fix this.
as of now only two roms dont have this problem
RUU_Duttys_HD_WM6.5_Sense_2.1_Holy_Grail_R0 and
Energy.BLACKSTONE.23529.Sense2.1.16.Feb.2010
( i may be wrong here , but i have tried nearly ten roms in the last month.)
so is there any fix for this problem...any help would be greatly appreciated...
thanks
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Almost all cooked roms comes with T9 enabled, just disable it.
Anyway "what" looks more correct than "wgat" ?
T9 is not much use if you not have the correct language set.
To disable T9, just go to settings tab, Locale & Text,Text Input.

but the problem is that i send lot of messages . so typing with t9 ON feels better..
you had specified about "language set".. i have already selected "english" as the language..
(i havent clearly understood by what you meant by "correct language set")

I have been wondering this too. Previously in was on Dutty's R15 for over a year and with XT9 and spell correction enabled you would always see the suggested word on screen.
Have recently tried all the ROMs on the scene and settled on Topix 3.5.6 and all of them look like the first image, you see exactly what you have typed (wgat) but when you press space it is corrected to the first suggestion (what).
This is not a major deal because in effect the XT9 and spell correction are working. I just find it annoying because i would like to see it corrected on screen as previously on Dutty.
So far as i am aware it has nothing to do with enabling or disabling T9, i wonder if it is simply due to a new IME package for the touch input, i've looked at the registry with no luck yet....perhaps Dutty would know?!
Any suggestions welcome!

still no luck ???

I've noticed that Topix 1.5.6 for the HD2 has this working properly. Tried copying the registry settings and the et9 files but no luck. Still trying!

I dont see what you mean.
This is supposed to happen (the word is auto corrected). if you want what the SIP thinks is wrong to be entered, you click on the word. Maybe the ROMs you are saying work correctly are the ones that show old behaviour or something.

Have you tried changing the value of "AllowChange" to 0 in \HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip?
I.e set "\HKCU\ControlPanel\Sip\AllowChange" = 0
This should prevent the word changing to soemthing else you've not typed.
Let me know if it works for you.
All the best

thank you "oluwaponmile".. i will try it today and let you know..
and "ask768" i am not sure how to explain it to you exactly...when you type small words its ok..but when you start typing bigger words for example " immediate , probably , afternoon, or any word bigger than 4 to 5 alphabets , then it becomes an inconvenience.
anyway will try what "oluwaponmile" has suggested...

oluwaponmile , i tries what you suggested..but a new problem has come now. i am not able to open up keypad.i can see the icon for the keyboard at the bottom but no matter how many times i click it , nothing happens....
this is preventing me from changes the value back to "1" in the registry ...
i have tried everywhere but the keyboard doesnt show up.... soft reset dowsnt help. looks like i have to do hard reset...

I also tried the above registry change witht he same results, keyboard doesnt appear! So no luck there, will keep searching...
@sumedh_vsk - don't hard reset! either use a PC-based resitry editor (such as CE RegEditor) to change the value back or just copy the number '1' from any other file name and paste it in, that shouldnt need the keyboard either!

(double post!)

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I also tried the above registry change witht he same results, keyboard doesnt appear! So no luck there, will keep searching...
@sumedh_vsk - don't hard reset! either use a PC-based resitry editor (such as CE RegEditor) to change the value back or just copy the number '1' from any other file name and paste it in, that shouldnt need the keyboard either!
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oh ya thats a good idea....wonder why i dint think of that( copy-paste technique)....thanks anyway....

looks like there is no fix for this yet...til a fix comes up for this issue i will settle down with swype keyboard.....