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heey fellow forum readers,
i hace got a oil stain under my screen
can somone tell me what it can be?
thnxs fore the info
Hello my friend.
Well actually that is very bad news. If you are inside the guarantee go to your dealer because this is a hardware and manufacture problem. Its a common problem on the latest hi res touch screens for htc.
I have the HTC touch diamond and i have the "Oily square of death" which is a like a rectangle just in the middle of the screen which looks like oil. My be your screen has become less responsive, some are reporting that with the time the screen goes completly useless and does not work at all.
There is no way you can fix it by yourself. I know its hard to know, still is a common problem So sad my friend.
Regards-
Bad situation. Sorry to hear that.
I dropped my TD2 to the ground today and i was very scared. I hope its okay.
this is caused by too much pressure on the screen by for example carrying the phone in your pocket and sitting down. i had the same problem and abviously the screen lowered itself into the phonecase. have a look on the phone sidewards and i think you will notice the same. i had luck and had an guarantee exchange. but normaly htc does not cover screen problems! take care with that phone.. even the manual says.. dont carry it in the pocket and sit down.. which is quite ridicolous for a mobile phone isnt it?
I had a dust particle under the touch screen (between the touch screen and display).
I've took the phone to my designated service (which was not an original HTC service) and they've cleaned it up. Now it's ok.
Maybe you should do the same.
thnxs
thnxs fore the reactions
i have contacted my phoneshop
the said it is a commen problem and it wil be cofferd
thnxs fore al the tips and help
Hmmm... I have the smae on my T-Mo Compact V.. wonder if they will cover it?
POSSIBLE SOLUTION!!!!
I fixed the very problem you guys are having with duct tape. Yes duct tape. The problem is not that the layers are separated, but that they are stuck together. So basically, your phone is acting as if it's continually being pressed, I put duct tape on the screen and gently removed it. I had to do this about twenty times, but eventually it separated the layers and the phone works like new. I know it sounds crazy, but it worked. I am aware of one other person who has had success with this method. I saw him post it on another forum. I believe this method will work for many of you so please try it and please be patient. As I said, it took several adhesions and removals before it worked.
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POSSIBLE SOLUTION!!!!
I fixed the very problem you guys are having with duct tape. Yes duct tape. The problem is not that the layers are separated, but that they are stuck together. So basically, your phone is acting as if it's continually being pressed, I put duct tape on the screen and gently removed it. I had to do this about twenty times, but eventually it separated the layers and the phone works like new. I know it sounds crazy, but it worked. I am aware of one other person who has had success with this method. I saw him post it on another forum. I believe this method will work for many of you so please try it and please be patient. As I said, it took several adhesions and removals before it worked.
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hehe nice...
if you cannot fix it with ducktape it is because You are not using much of it!
ducktape - a mans best friend!
reminds me of a time when we hooked up a projector with ductape during a conference
tape everywhere!
Tape works!!!
LOL
Last week I bought an Diamond 2 because the digitizer of my Cruise stoped responding. I tried the tape thing and... my cruise is working as a charme again.
Were there is duct tape there is hope
Wtf???Who came up with this????F***** awsome!!!The screen finally responded but seeing using a direct light there's still a square...Replacing a digitizer should sholve the problem,huh?
It hapend for me to this morning but the screen was still responsive.
Then I did the quick tape reperation and now whola rings are gone
hi
i think this tape sollution should be a sticky
had a go at the duct tape as a bit of a last ditch attempt.
still no luck, the oil stain disappeared however the screen remained mostly unresponsive.
a bit of screen mashing will press certain things in certain places, but not where the initial pressure was applied.
might keep trying it later.
word of warning though, careful if the sticky tape is strong, my digitiser started separating a little. i've resigned myself to a new one anyway so it wasnt much of a loss for me if ive made it worse.
just an fyi
Hi ,
anyone found a detailed guide on how to change the digitizer?
Tilt 2 Screen doing this.
OMG My Tilt 2 has the huge oil stain square thing now. Never had this before. First time I had it in my pants pocket ever without its case... 1 time. ATT says that I damaged the screen. By having it in my POCKET? WTF. This sucks. Ill try the Duct Tape thing. I hope that works.
IMO you can't expect a digitizer to withstand constant, direct pressure such as that inside of a tight jeans pocket. After all, it's just a few sheets of plastic with tiny gaps in between.
The digitizers employed on the TD2 and some other, newer models seem to be particularly sensitive, but nonetheless this is a common hazard with ANY resistive touchscreen. The plastic in a resistive touchscreen has to be soft and bendable, and because of that it is also susceptible to warping.
Capacitive touchscreens can be fitted with tough screen surfaces thanks to the relevant touchscreen components sitting behind the display panel and not in front of it.
I've used a hardcase with screen cover for the past six months since I bought my TD2. It makes the screen somewhat inaccessible on-the-go, so it's not the most practical solution. Still, it's the only way to truly protect the screen from pressure.
http://www.pdair.com/catalog/product_info.php?cPath=10100000_900000_11000630&products_id=17582
sorry to dig out this post...
I have the same problem, I am planning to send it back to HTC. Do you think there is a risk they don't take it within the guarantee (sorry for my bad english) as I installed hard SPL and a cooked rom ? Maybe should I reinstall official HTC rom...
thank you for your advise
So after looking at my phone last night under dim light I noticed something... dust in the screen, no big deal... that was until i noticed it was UNDERNEATH the freaking screen!
Of course nothing I tried can get it loose, I already sent an email to HTC regarding the issue so now I play the waiting game. I've had htc's for years now (mogul, touch pro, touch pro 2) and this is the only time I remember having this problem (I am ocd about my phones, they must look like they are new, always )
Has anyone else out there had this problem? The phone is not even a month old! And I can't stand seeing that crap there, always ruining whatever i'm looking at
Please offer any solutions! I have a friend who works for tmobile so i'll be asking him later when I see him but I also need xda forum input
I had that with one replacement HD7. When I got my HD7 I actually went through 4 of them to get one without faults. The first one had reception problems. The second one had patches of dead pixels al over the screen. The third had particulates under the screen. I finally went to a different store and received a perfect one.
I might mention, in case it has an impact on it, wipe the display from side to side gently. Don't wipe from top to bottom or bottom to top. I have an idea duct and particulates are able to channel under the screen from the little mesh grill areas at the top and bottom.
I thought it would be from these too as they all seem to have came in form the mesh grille on top, I'm going to the t-mobile store in a bit and see what they can do with it.
No impacts here at all, I have an otterbox case on it too... so much to have a nasty little lint thing get stuck on the inside!!
Now all I see is that thing on there, it makes me so mad
The only problem i had with dust was on the freaking speakers and i can't get them out no matter how hard i try
I had dust on my htc desire, thought it was a htc specific problem until I saw my mates iPhone!
UIpdate:
HTC emailed me saying "we apologize for this, please contact our service center M-F regarding this issue"
We'll see what happens when I call them tomorrow... I expect a WARRANTY repair!
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The only problem i had with dust was on the freaking speakers and i can't get them out no matter how hard i try
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Simple fix for that.
I use a lens cloth and eye glasses cleaner. Wet the cloth a bit and fold it into and edge and clean the speakers. Takes all the dust out of mine. Looks brand new!
Finally spoke with HTC repair center today, good news is they will look at my phone... bad news is I have to pay to ship it to them and apart from that I gotta be HD7 less for 6 to 10business days!!
Well just the thought of that crap no longer being underneath my screen is good enough to think about those 10 days going by quickly
I've had my optimus black for a few hours now and i'm really liking the screen!
I bought it after being slightly disappointed with the screen and speaker on my desire S (which I still have).
I'm a bit disappointed with the plastic feeling though, and i'm getting a "grip of death" problem with 3G when holding it with my left hand (it loses 2-3 bars compared to holding it in my right hand).
Also i've just noticed a build quality issue on mine, the grill that covers the earpiece has fallen down. I can lift it back up with a pin, but it quickly falls back down again. It looks like the glue didn't work. There is also a small imperfection in the glass right underneath the earpiece. Pic is attached.
Has anybody else had any issues with the cheap build quality?
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I've had my optimus black for a few hours now and i'm really liking the screen!
I bought it after being slightly disappointed with the screen and speaker on my desire S (which I still have).
I'm a bit disappointed with the plastic feeling though, and i'm getting a "grip of death" problem with 3G when holding it with my left hand (it loses 2-3 bars compared to holding it in my right hand).
Also i've just noticed a build quality issue on mine, the grill that covers the earpiece has fallen down. I can lift it back up with a pin, but it quickly falls back down again. It looks like the glue didn't work. There is also a small imperfection in the glass right underneath the earpiece. Pic is attached.
Has anybody else had any issues with the cheap build quality?
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I've had no real issues with the build quality.
I do hear a very light squeaking sound when I squeeze the right side of my phone, the plastic side of the back cover.
I'm also happy to know that the LG Optimus Black also has Gorilla Glass (discussed here and listed here).
You may want to return your phone for a replacement if the grill keeps coming off.
Ouch, now I'm chicken out to buy this phone.
Iphone4like antenna problem? Bad building quality? (with the known aspect ratio issue) Eeerrrrr, I think I'll choose another one.
chancooluk said:
I've had my optimus black for a few hours now and i'm really liking the screen!
I bought it after being slightly disappointed with the screen and speaker on my desire S (which I still have).
I'm a bit disappointed with the plastic feeling though, and i'm getting a "grip of death" problem with 3G when holding it with my left hand (it loses 2-3 bars compared to holding it in my right hand).
Also i've just noticed a build quality issue on mine, the grill that covers the earpiece has fallen down. I can lift it back up with a pin, but it quickly falls back down again. It looks like the glue didn't work. There is also a small imperfection in the glass right underneath the earpiece. Pic is attached.
Has anybody else had any issues with the cheap build quality?
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I have no issues so far. I hold the phone with right hand i can't replicate the issue. I'm actually quite impressed with the durability considering the plastic nature of it.
so you think it's not a general issue, with the death grip?
This is my first Android phone so i have nothing else to compare to, but it seems i don't lose any signal holding it. But i do have smallish hands so it might be just that.
So don't take my word for it
So I like just about everything about the Sony Z compact line of phones but durability wise I have been unlucky. My first Z3 compact died from water damage and my 2nd one has a screen that is ready to fall off the device.
I choose to buy a HTC U11 to replace my Z3 compact as I have never owned a HTC phone before and thought I would try something different.
What I would like to ask here though is it worth trying to fix the Z3 compact to sell or not?
The only way to protect this phone:
The phone bends 0.1mm causes the phone screen to start opening. So it's not suitable for jeans pockets.
I remedied this by using an anodized aluminium bumper and tempered glass both sides.
Sony does a very bad repair of it's phones, and the issues will return, and their parts are expensive.
It is better to do it yourself and use B7000 glue, use plenty, easily removable for future repairs, no heat, clothes pegs, wait 48 hours before removing pegs or turning on the phone. And look for the best grade of screen with frame, Sony uses two manufacturers for its screens.
My Z3C has a screen that is lifting. This thread and others seem to indicate that fixing the screen is not hard but hardware is not my thing at all...
Would a phone repair place (in a shopping centre) be able to do this kind of repair? Is the phone much different to other phones that people would take in for screen replacements?
I don't care about the loss of waterproofing. The screen isn't even falling out, just lifted in the corner. I don't want to send the phone anywhere and be without it, or have it come back changed in unexpected ways...
a1291762 said:
My Z3C has a screen that is lifting. This thread and others seem to indicate that fixing the screen is not hard but hardware is not my thing at all...
Would a phone repair place (in a shopping centre) be able to do this kind of repair? Is the phone much different to other phones that people would take in for screen replacements?
I don't care about the loss of waterproofing. The screen isn't even falling out, just lifted in the corner. I don't want to send the phone anywhere and be without it, or have it come back changed in unexpected ways...
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Phone shops including Sony themselves have difficulty in repairing this particular phone, I think any phone shop can do this repair, but, they must use the B7000 glue or similar, or silicone, and not the red tape they usually use, it's useless, as this phone can heat up, or the blue z3c ready cut tape is not so good either. And if you get the wrong screen (clone), the colours will not be as good.
Many phone repairers have the clone screens that are thicker than the original.
The screen sometimes is actually bent, along with the body, check on a flat surface.
Always buy a good screen together attached with the body, and never by itself.
So armed with this knowledge and or hardware, you could go talk with a phone repairer... The first 3 times, shop, but maybe the fourth repair, try doing it yourself, it's as easy as opening a PC, just smaller, just follow z3c repair guides and youtube, when you're ready. When attempting to repair the phone, for the very first time, do it over hours, maybe over the weekend, and not one sitting.
If you start loosing patience, leave it for a while etc.
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I got so comfortable with opening my phone, I put extra 0.3mm copper plates on the processor and gpu with Cooler Master Extreme Fusion paste etc. Lol.
But it's good to have an already damaged motherboard to work on.
Z3C LOS Omni Oreo
My screen is still working fine. Just lifting.
I do have some old phones I could practice on, assuming they have the same glass sandwich construction.
I will go look for some videos...
a1291762 said:
My screen is still working fine. Just lifting.
I do have some old phones I could practice on, assuming they have the same glass sandwich construction.
I will go look for some videos...
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Z3C LOS Omni Oreo
I put up with my screen for a long time but eventually the glue gave out and I had no choice. It was good, then bad, but ultimately ok.
I didn't have any trouble taking the glass off the first time because the glue was barely hanging on. I had a look and noticed that the headphone jack's glue was also failing. Probably why it was becoming unreliable. I glued that and reseated the screen cable and it worked fine while sitting there so I glued everything on again.
It was a poor first attempt. I had both too much glue (blobs that leaked out) and not enough to actually seal around much of the screen. No problem. I took the glass off again and glued it again. This time I followed the instructions closer and glued the front screen before connecting the ribbon.
The second gluing was good but something with the ribbon was wrong because it only worked when I pressed on the lower part of the screen. Sigh.
Taking the glass off after a good glue was much harder. I finally got the spudger under the glass but I moved it sideways before removing the suction thing. It was too much pressure for the glass. The good news is that it was the rear glass and only the bottom half shattered. I got the rest off and started on the front.
Now that I knew to be more careful, I got the front off OK. Reseat. Test and working. I glued the front on first again, without disconnecting the cable. Tested and working. I glued the half back I had on (covers the camera).
Its working!
I use a case so the back isn't even a problem, but I ordered a new back from China (cheap). The headphone Jack seems better. I put a new screen protector on. In some ways the phone is rejuvenated.
I was apparently not careful enough when taking off the screen though. I appear to have some marks on my screen now. It's minor, probably won't notice during normal use, but there if you look.
I'm so glad to have my phone back. I've been using an iPhone for the last 3 weeks.
Thanks for the tips.
Edit: The hands free speaker works again too. Bonus
Hello,
Love my M7 phone, had three of them in the last five years or whatever. Unfortunately they have all developed the same fault, the speakers go crappy and end up sounding all "farty"!!!
It seems to be because of the work I do. I'm a machinist by trade and will all the metal and crap, the speakers being magnetic attract tiny slithers of metal through the speak grill and it eventually ruins them.
Is there any kind of protector/cover for the speaker to stop crap getting in there? Covering them will impair the sound will it not?
I have a case, but it more of a back and sides case. The front is open other than a screen protector.
I don't want to see another M7 go the same way, if it does I won't bother getting another.
Thanks.
Put the phone backwards in case while working.
maritimesbob said:
Hello,
Love my M7 phone, had three of them in the last five years or whatever. Unfortunately they have all developed the same fault, the speakers go crappy and end up sounding all "farty"!!!
It seems to be because of the work I do. I'm a machinist by trade and will all the metal and crap, the speakers being magnetic attract tiny slithers of metal through the speak grill and it eventually ruins them.
Is there any kind of protector/cover for the speaker to stop crap getting in there? Covering them will impair the sound will it not?
I have a case, but it more of a back and sides case. The front is open other than a screen protector.
I don't want to see another M7 go the same way, if it does I won't bother getting another.
Thanks.
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Use Sellotape.......