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While trying to update my MDA Vario with the new AKU 2 ROM of T-Mobile the RUU puts the MDA in bootloader. Then Windows notifies me of a new unknown USB device and the update utility gives me an communication error with error code [260] - upgrade failed. :shock:
1) How to solve this problem as this would make me or
2) Is it possible for someone to make a complete backup on a mini SD card of his HTC Wizard? From what I have read on Internet this can be written to a file. When posted on the XDA ftp I can write this file back to a mini SD card and restore a original ROM (for this I need a short tutorial).
option 2 assumes that the problem is related to the ROM. I super CID and SIM unlocked using the well known tools. Maybe this has gone wrong at some point :?: ?.
I'm having the same problem moving up to a custom 2.26. Did you ever find a solution.
Thanks,
Jeff
dont qoute me on this.. but i believe its an issue with the update utility... hopefully someone else can confirm or deny this..
but you can try this one:
i dont know how much either of you know so i will try some directions with this...
take my rar file, extract them to a folder, lets use c:\rom for an example
if you rom you have is in an *.exe format then use winrar to extract the rom to a folder then take the nk.nbf file and copy it to c:\rom and then run the update utility
if your rom is already in a rar or zip file then just extract the nk.nbf file to the c:\rom folder and then run the update utility
hope that helps
shogunmark said:
dont qoute me on this.. but i believe its an issue with the update utility... hopefully someone else can confirm or deny this..
but you can try this one:
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I really appreciate your help, but before I risk bricking my phone, could you tell you tell me how this differs from the ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe and RUU*.* that are part of the custom ROM update package I already have?
Thanks,
Jeff
datawrhsdoc said:
shogunmark said:
dont qoute me on this.. but i believe its an issue with the update utility... hopefully someone else can confirm or deny this..
but you can try this one:
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I really appreciate your help, but before I risk bricking my phone, could you tell you tell me how this differs from the ROMUpdateUtility_Wizard_NoID.exe and RUU*.* that are part of the custom ROM update package I already have?
Thanks,
Jeff
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the custom rom that you have, does it have the NoID update utility already?
ANSWER
I spent a few hours fiddling with this, and it turns out that my problem was that I have a miniSD installed. Make sure you pop your miniSD out of the slot before you begin the update, and it should work.
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I spent a few hours fiddling with this, and it turns out that my problem was that I have a miniSD installed. Make sure you pop your miniSD out of the slot before you begin the update, and it should work.
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WTF that is WEIRD
i have flashed many roms and never had an issue with the sd card being in... but will definitely file that in the back of my brain in case i ever run into the same issue
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the custom rom that you have, does it have the NoID update utility already?
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Yes, it does. Oh, I also tried this without the MiniSD in the device (a known but really strange problem). Still getting the error.
Error 260 Finally Gone!!!
Well, just for the heck of it, I tried xelencin's 2.26 ROM update from another PC...and it succeeded.
Clearly, it is a new issue related to my laptop but it is probably going to quite a bit of trouble to track down.
Thanks everyone,
Jeff
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I spent a few hours fiddling with this, and it turns out that my problem was that I have a miniSD installed. Make sure you pop your miniSD out of the slot before you begin the update, and it should work.
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WTF!!! I had the exact same problem. Popped out the Mini-SD Card and voila! The Bootloader started!
Thanks man!!
Ty man ... MS card out and it is working .... yea
i cant get this to work PDA PHONE ROM UPDATER, send a black screen to s200 and then gives error 260
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
Essentially what you are doing is changing the Bootloader so you can install a different ROM regardless if it's signed.
USPL and HardSPL is a matter of having it done temporarely or permenantly.
USPL (temporary), is the safe route. This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL. So if you're not a big flasher, and thinking about selling your phone in the near future, then you might want to stick to this method.
HardSPL (permenant), is the only TRUE way of bricking your phone. You will flash the bootloader for good so that you can constantly flash new ROMs without having to worry about flashing your bootloader of making sure it's a signed ROM. For heavy flashers, like myself, this is the ideal route.
HardSPL is reversible, there are some threads on how to do that. If I remember correctly, you have to flash back to a Stock T-Mo ROM.
Some ROMs require HardSPL because sometimes the cooks use different methods to flash ROMs onto devices other than ActiveSync (which is needed for flashing via USPL).
For example, ttran001's Open Touch V4.0 Micro ROM flashes onto your device using your SDCard, the phone is never connected to you PC so no opertunity to USPL. If it was not HardSPL'd, the ROM would be rejected. If it was, the flash would continue flawlessly.
I hope this answers your questions, and please, if I got anything wrong, correct me.
Regards,
three4seven said:
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Oh and from what I understand, installing those cabs wont hurt your device if you dont HardSPL. I believe you can uninstall them from the "remove program" which can be found under Settings/System/Remove Programs.
Everyone's allowed a Noob question every now and then I only know all this info because I read, so im sure if you read u'll be just fine.
nKiwan, thanks for quick and throrough reply
I get a little lost with this:
nKiwan said:
This will allow you to Install one USPL capable ROMs per USPL.
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what does that mean exactly?
perhaps I should start by asking the USPL acronym stands for - I've googled it and I couldn't find the right acronym.
From my understanding.. the only real difference (besides one uspl rom per uspl vs infinite - i'm still a little hazy on that) is that hardSPL allows for flashing outside of activesync?
thanks again... I swear I tried my best using the search function and reading
Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device. This will temporarely change your bootloader so it will allow you to flash a non signed ROM, a.k.a. an "outside" ROM. USPL capable ROMs, are ROMs that you can flash using USPL, therefore, ActiveSync.
Well there are two differences I guess... HardSPL, basically, allows for flashing outside of ActiveSync; and will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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Well, correct me if i'm wrong, if you do not HardSPL, then you must USPL your device everytime you wish to flash your device.
hardSPL.... will allow you to flash any ROM as many times as you would like, once HardSPL'd.
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Technically then.. I could also flash any rom as many times as I want using USPL as long as I run USPL.exe? I read the flashing guide several times. The only difference I found was that you run USPL.exe and it goes through a loader instead of just running the RUU flaser. Is that right?
i apologize once again if I am being incredibly dense.
thanks again for putting up with my n00bness
there ya go! you got it. As you become more experienced you'll start to understand the need of HardSPL.
I was once a noob myself, so i understand where u coming from . Just glad I can help.
Regards,
nkiwan - thank you so much for answering my barrage of n00b questions.
You have been a great help. I really appreciate it.
Wow I think this is the coolest thread I have read ...it is just awesome what the WWW has done for all of us and thanks for the info
Glad I can help
I can understnad the use of USPL but I would recommend the use of hard SPL if you are planning to flash multiple roms. Either way I think it is just a matter of whether or not you actually want to run the USPL everytime you want to flash a rom... Don't quote me on that.
Just to doublecheck myself....
If I use USPL method and hard reset my phone - will I have the stock rom or the flashed one?
if I understand correctly USPL will bring back the stock one after hard reset and HSPL the new one.
very sorry to ask this now..from what i get is there are 3 ways of turning ur phone from phone to super phone:
1. install .cabs
2.soft flashing
3.hard flashing???
am i rite??
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As far as the acronym goes, I have NO clue lol. Never bothered to find out, I guess it would be helpful to know .
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I found this thread that you might find useful for the acronyms:xdasite.com/showthread.php?t=1104
Same was with me.....
three4seven said:
I apologize in advance if my questions are trivial and I am just dense.
I am pretty sure I've read through all the threads for "n00bs" but I still can't get a grasp of what exactly hardSPL does or is. I ran the search function and found that I don't NEED it per say and has claimed that it actually is "safer" to use USPL.
I own a Tmobile Wing (IPL > 4.xxx)
1. What exactly is the difference between USPL and hardSPL?
2. What are the limitations of either one.. will flashing a cooked rom without hardSPL cause problems?
3. I currently have flashed the newest Open Touch 4.0 and haven't had any problems at all (USPL), but I noticed in the thread for Touch-IT, it says that hardSPL is required. What does that mean exactly? If I flashed it w/o hardSPL.. will my wing crash/brick?
4. At some point, I'd like to sell the phone, so I don't want to do anything that is irreversible. My understanding was USPL is reversible, hardSPL is not?
5. I was on the verge of flashing the hardSPL but chickened out.
I installed the three cab files (canonyang.cab aserpolicy.cab disablesecurity.cab) but decided I wasn't ready to flash.
Will that cause any problems (installing the .cabs but not flashing)?
any help/input would be greatly appreciated. Sorry for all the n00b questions. Thanks
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Hi Brother,
Same problem with me i have also search every where but failed... no answer about Hard spl.Every body say do hard spl and search in fourm and so on. There was no proper guide what it is and how to do. i was really puzzel. Now i have come to know that axect what it is Hard Spl.
Hard Spl mean CID unlock. If you unlock CId of the phone its mean you have done Hard SPl. Without CID unlock you can not write ROM.
Thanks
Br Raja
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
Stargazer418 said:
I have a T-Mobile Wing. I hardSPL'd it, installed a custom ROM, then I used the RUU to flash the original ROM back to it. It doesn't show the CanonYang startup screen, but the SPL version is still 4.70.Yang. Is it still HardSPL'd?
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You can always check in the bootloader screen (the RGB screen).
Even if you have a 4.70.Yang you still need the IPL to be higher than 4 to flash custom ROMs. That is what is important.
If you ever see any of these number's change, Run the HardSPL folder again.
I posted this deep in another thread (a sticky), but I think it fits better as a new topic because it is not specific to that other thread. I'll make a note in the other thread to avoid duplicates.
Okay....
I'm absolutely new to the world of ROMs and SPL, HSPL, SSPL and USPL - but I've been doing my homework today and I've read all of the wiki links more than once.
Before diving into it and making some dumb newbie mistake, I wanted to run a couple of things by you guys.
I have the German o2 ROM 1.14.207.2 (24011) GER.
I don't want the o2 branding, but I still want it in German.
So, I want to flash RUU_BlackStone_HTC_GER_1.14.407.3_Radio_52.49a.25. 26_1.09.25.14_Ship.exe
My understanding is that since these are both stock ROMs (at least I believe they both are, right?), my stock SPL should accept the new ROM without any problems. In other words, I don't need anything like USPL. Am I correct? Or do I actually need USPL because the new ROM is not from my current vendor which is o2?
Based on what I learned reading all the info, this is what I plan to do:
Turn off my phone, remove SIM and MicroSD
Enter boot mode (tricolor screen)
connect phone via usb to WMDC (Vista 32-bit). The settings are set to ALLOW usb connections
Disable my antivirus program
Disable all power saving modes, screensavers etc.
Run the RUU Ship.exe mentioned above as administrator
Follow instructions until device reboots
So now my warranty should still be fine. If I have to send the device in for repair, to I need to put the o2 ROM back on it?
Thanks for your help (and patience) with a newbie that scared to turn his HD into a brick. I think I'll wear diapers while I'm flashing - just in case.
I'll wait for some responses before I tackle the 7 steps above.
Chris Cross said:
My understanding is that since these are both stock ROMs (at least I believe they both are, right?), my stock SPL should accept the new ROM without any problems.
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No, thats not true at all. For instance you can't flash a WWE Rom over a German Rom, although they are both stock roms. There is a country specific code (CID). The stock SPL is checking this, so its impossible to flash roms coming from another country.
I'm not sure if the stock SPL also checks the vendor/operator, but I guess it does.
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In other words, I don't need anything like USPL.
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You should just try it. The SPL will tell you whether it accepts the rom or not.
Chris Cross said:
Based on what I learned reading all the info, this is what I plan to do:
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First of all you should consider which SPL you want to use. If you really just want to flash this new rom, USPL is good for you, if you are going to change your rom more frequently then HSPL is the way to go.
Instructions on how to use this SPLs are given in the appreciate threads (with many comments of other users), so you should look them up (again).
Chris Cross said:
So now my warranty should still be fine.
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You warrany is fine, if the operator/vendor gets the device with the rom he shipped it to you (or any official upgrade provided by this operator/vendor). If you flash the official htc german rom, you might loose your warranty.
Chris Cross said:
If I have to send the device in for repair, to I need to put the o2 ROM back on it?
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Yes, normally you do.
Chris Cross said:
Thanks for your help (and patience) with a newbie that scared to turn his HD into a brick.
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If you are doing all as mentioned in the appreciate instructions nothing extraordinary should happen. I have flashed my HD for over 15 times in the last few days.
Chris Cross said:
I think I'll wear diapers while I'm flashing - just in case.
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Normally that shouldn't change anything .
Chris Cross said:
[*]connect phone via usb to WMDC (Vista 32-bit). The settings are set to ALLOW usb connections
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Read the USPL thread carefully - you have to disable allow usb connections. In vista you will probably find that you will have to downgrade the USB drivers - that is dealt with in Post 69 of the USPL thread - see also post 1 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723
apd said:
Read the USPL thread carefully - you have to disable allow usb connections. In vista you will probably find that you will have to downgrade the USB drivers - that is dealt with in Post 69 of the USPL thread - see also post 1 of http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=291723
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yes, I had read that about disabling usb connections. I just thought that if I did not need USPL then I could leave usb connections enabled and try the other german ship.exe rom. Anyway, I think might need to alter the SPL anyway.
THANK YOU ALL for your responses. They were very helpful and it is time for me to get working on it when I get home.
I will post back my results.
Well, everything worked out fine.
I ended having to use USPL because my SPL did not accept the new stock ROM (same language, but different vendor: o2 vs. non-branded).
I did have to downgrade my vista drivers for it to work. I followed all the wiki instructions and had no problems.
Thanks again for the help.
Sercurity Unlocker
Will the blackstone have to be security unlocked to flash cooked ROMs or will it be done in the HSPL?
primbcadman said:
Will the blackstone have to be security unlocked to flash cooked ROMs or will it be done in the HSPL?
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Security unlock matters for radio flashing only.
Security unlocker.
stepw said:
Security unlock matters for radio flashing only.
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thanks for reply. pity tho after bought unlocked thc touch hd will have to pay for that again just to get security unlocker, like I did for touch pro.
Hi,
I was really hoping to do this without having to ask for guidance!!
I have backed up my ROM via Kovskykitchen: all OK and nice clear tutorial! thx..
I have X1_HardSPL_V1 ready to run..
I have the Touch-IT Experience ROM..
I think I follow the process but have a question about HARDSPL : Once I have completed the process - will I be able to use the phone at that point - or will I have to flash a new ROM to use it? i.e. is HARDSPL just an unlock so to speak or does it wipe the phone?- been reading this very helpful thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=446070 by Phenx - ta..
Flashing the new rom:
all the detailed tutorials seem to be the MicroSD method.. I can't find a decent X1 walkthrough using activesync...
Can anyone point me in the right direction? I'm obviously searching wrong..
Thanks!!
(One other question: will flashing affect my sim contacts? Thanks)
I'll try and answer ur questions to the best of my ability but i can't say i know much about what hardspl is besides the ultimate tool
After you hardspl u will be able to use ur phone as normal. I believe it still has the same stock rom on it but again i'm not sure but i do know u will be able to use it.
There is a way to use activesync and its fairly simple. Establish a connection through activesync and then run the rom update utility and follow the instructions. This is the only method i've ever used and i've been flashing my phone since the wizard.
Hope this helps
Thanks, thats given me a little more confidence
What flash util would you recommend? or do you mean the one with the HARDSPL download?
I would suggest backing up your contacts to your sim card, pull your memory card and then flash AFTER you hrdspl the phone. The hrdspl enabled you to be able to flash the phone to another rom, it will not interfere with the operation of the phone afterwards.
WC
x1tom said:
Thanks, thats given me a little more confidence
What flash util would you recommend? or do you mean the one with the HARDSPL download?
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Most ROM's are packed together with the flash prog. I do recommend the microSD method, as it's less prone to murphy's law.
always use the sd way, it far by the safest.
your sim contact will be left on the sim the other contacts yo want to backup.
hardspl is a unlock only utility, wont affect your phone, rom.
ive done it throught the sd way ...and its really simple and no problems, i had a few problems with hardspl ...but got that sorted quick enough.
yeah so i'd recommend the sd way.
Well don't have a microSD so did it via activesync...
HARDSPL - was painless - click - click, go make coffee - done!
I mistook the ROM update in the Touch zip for another HARDSPL.. It was infact (obviously) the update util needed.. Flashed to Touch-it .21 - As easy as HARDSPL....
I have noticed 1 bug but its a tiny thing: the ok or x in the top right doesnt show when in any menu... Hard reset didnt fix it.. no problem though as the OK or x is there just not lit up..
Can anyone confirm that to change to another ROM, I would just replace the RUU file in the update util folder?
Thanks for everyones help!
x1tom said:
I have noticed 1 bug but its a tiny thing: the ok or x in the top right doesnt show when in any menu... Hard reset didnt fix it.. no problem though as the OK or x is there just not lit up..
Can anyone confirm that to change to another ROM, I would just replace the RUU file in the update util folder?
Thanks for everyones help!
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yes to the second, just replace the RUU.
and I'd recommend trying wktask http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
instead of the taskmanager. (disable the task manager through settings) then you can make the X pretty and useful!
well thats the icing on the cake!! cheers - worked a treat.. thanks all
fards said:
yes to the second, just replace the RUU.
and I'd recommend trying wktask http://soft.photoracer.net/docs/wktask_en.html
instead of the taskmanager. (disable the task manager through settings) then you can make the X pretty and useful!
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I thought it'd make a nice app for me, but it doesn't work well. Messes up my entire top bar.
Angelusz said:
I thought it'd make a nice app for me, but it doesn't work well. Messes up my entire top bar.
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have you changed the preferences?
i use 52-280 icons only, disable force 3d theme
smaberg said:
always use the sd way, it far by the safest.
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flashed my phone like 10 times now and NEVER used the SD version.
so from my point of view ... usw the USB version. saves loads of time.
plugin USB
sync if not allready done
start update and click a few times
done
download file on x1, save to sdcard,,,,, rename flash, much easier doesnt require windows pc can be done anywhere and less chance of failure
must have flashed different devices well over 100 times
probably a stupid question, but right now i have the Touch-IT 2.1 rom on my phone, if i want to Flash to another ROM, i don't need to flash to HardSPL again do i then flash to another rom?
EDIT: don't worry found the answer.
narutoramen said:
probably a stupid question, but right now i have the Touch-IT 2.1 rom on my phone, if i want to Flash to another ROM, i don't need to flash to HardSPL again do i then flash to another rom?
EDIT: don't worry found the answer.
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Wouldn't hurt to say the answer, i am looking for the answer to that question lol.
so?
Ooops! Misspost.
fards said:
have you changed the preferences?
i use 52-280 icons only, disable force 3d theme
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Decided to give it another chance. Your 52-280 helps, but it still looks kind of crappy with a gray bar on top, no other settings changed.
Angelusz said:
Decided to give it another chance. Your 52-280 helps, but it still looks kind of crappy with a gray bar on top, no other settings changed.
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mm what theme are you running?
Mine is pure black.. or do you mean the battery strip right along the top?
rotsu said:
Wouldn't hurt to say the answer, i am looking for the answer to that question lol.
so?
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you dont need to falsh HardSPL again.
I have flashed my Tilt and my Wizard numerous times but I'm wondering if it matters which you should flash first.
if you have the HTC base rom fro your device should you go right to the custom rom and then the spl and then radio or does it even matter what the order is.
normally I put the SPL and then Radio and then the custom rom.
Is there any preference on this?
Cheers
Chris
As long as you have HardSPL'd your kaiser, and the custom rom doesn't have a radio included in it, then it doesnt matter which order you flash the rom and radio.
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As long as you have HardSPL'd your kaiser, and the custom rom doesn't have a radio included in it, then it doesnt matter which order you flash the rom and radio.
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ok cool and if you HardSPL'd your kaiser once to go to a custom rom and then decide to change to a different one so you go back to the stock rom does that change your SPL back or once its changed its changed for good?
To be honest I dont even see where the SPL shows.
Cheers,
Chris
cholubaz said:
ok cool and if you HardSPL'd your kaiser once to go to a custom rom and then decide to change to a different one so you go back to the stock rom does that change your SPL back or once its changed its changed for good?
To be honest I dont even see where the SPL shows.
Cheers,
Chris
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I think I found my answer regarding Hard SPL's "A Hard SPL is one that is permanently flashed in your device memory and will boot up every time your device boots." http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
So I guess you only have to do this once. If I'm mistaken please let me know.
Cheers,
Chris
cholubaz said:
I think I found my answer regarding Hard SPL's "A Hard SPL is one that is permanently flashed in your device memory and will boot up every time your device boots." http://wiki.xda-developers.com/index.php?pagename=SPL Questions?
So I guess you only have to do this once. If I'm mistaken please let me know.
Cheers,
Chris
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Correct you only do it once unless you wanna change your hard-spl to a different version.