T9 Word Suggestion Oddity - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hi all, I've been unable to find a solution to this strange and irritating problem...all I have managed to find is this post describing the same thing.
Basically the phone will suggest words incorrectly and not show the real word you actually want. If you delete it and type the same again though it'll appear as normal. This occurs using both the Phone Keypad and Compact Qwerty.
Secondly the first word in the suggested list is a nonsense word every time though it is at least not selected.
e.g. typing hello on the Phone Keypad displays "gdjjm" before hello or "gello" using the Compact Qwerty.
I first encountered this after installing Dutty's latest ROM even though the change log for that says it's fixed. Today though I installed CT's latest ROM instead which initially had fixed the problem, however suddenly it is back just the same as before. If anyone has any idea what's causing this, or more importantly how to fix it, it'd be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mik

Anyone got any ideas?

Ive got the exact same problem. Quite annoying.
Im also on dutty's V4.
For example for me, i press 8 then 4 then 3 (to get the word "the") and it will produce something like "vif", which obviously isnt a word, i will delete the three characters and repress 8,4,3 and i will get the word "the" with other alternative suggestions. Happens only sometimes, and i think ive pressed a wrong button, but when i work out the letters, i know ive pressed it correctly.
Any help would be great (maybe this should be posted into dutty's thread)

kaos_king said:
Ive got the exact same problem. Quite annoying.
Im also on dutty's V4.
For example for me, i press 8 then 4 then 3 (to get the word "the") and it will produce something like "vif", which obviously isnt a word, i will delete the three characters and repress 8,4,3 and i will get the word "the" with other alternative suggestions. Happens only sometimes, and i think ive pressed a wrong button, but when i work out the letters, i know ive pressed it correctly.
Any help would be great (maybe this should be posted into dutty's thread)
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Im also using dutty v4, and i get stuff like that happening all of the time.
for eg, i type "res" for "rest" and the suggestions are: "residents,bisho" , "Research" , "result" , "rest"
another, if i type "arg" for "argue" the first suggestion is "argumentation" then "argumentative" then "arguement" and there is no argue!!
i mean WTF is residents,bisho? i have never added that to my dictionary in my life!
Someone at Micro**** neads to learn how to spell, or optimize the way the dictionary is utilised.
It is funny, when i had a hermes, it came with windows mobile 5 and there was no problems there!
anyone know how to fix this?

I have the exact same "problem".
I'm not on dutty's, but am using CT's Version 6.4 HD now (used a few other versions of him too) and the problem occurs in all these versions.. Even the original ROM had this problem in my case.
It can be a little annoying so I hope there is a solution for this..
MysticGenius said:
another, if i type "arg" for "argue" the first suggestion is "argumentation" then "argumentative" then "arguement" and there is no argue!!
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If you add "argue" to your wordlist, it will appear as the first word in the future, it's the best solution at this time imo, but i totally agree with you that a word like "argue" should be in the dictionairy by default.
Cheers!

whis said:
I have the exact same "problem".!
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Just before typing this i have just send my friend the following
"you seduction to come to my place...."
when i was wanting to say "you sed to come to my place...."
i know im abbreviating said to sed, but shurely there is something else in the english language between sed.......&.......seduction!

I've had this on both Duty's and CT's latest ROMs so I wonder if the problem lies with the standard ROM on which they're based?
It's becomming very annoying to write messages as I'm having to type half my words out twice so it finds the right one! Can anyone help in any way?

maybe there is a solution to this problem
MikLSP said:
Hi all, I've been unable to find a solution to this strange and irritating problem...all I have managed to find is this post describing the same thing.
Basically the phone will suggest words incorrectly and not show the real word you actually want. If you delete it and type the same again though it'll appear as normal. This occurs using both the Phone Keypad and Compact Qwerty.
Secondly the first word in the suggested list is a nonsense word every time though it is at least not selected.
e.g. typing hello on the Phone Keypad displays "gdjjm" before hello or "gello" using the Compact Qwerty.
I first encountered this after installing Dutty's latest ROM even though the change log for that says it's fixed. Today though I installed CT's latest ROM instead which initially had fixed the problem, however suddenly it is back just the same as before. If anyone has any idea what's causing this, or more importantly how to fix it, it'd be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mik
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I am from Romania (Europe) and I needed a romanianT9 so I installed the EzInput keyboard from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281. But I also noticed that I don't have the described problem with the english T9 even if I also use Dutt's v4. I'm not sure if I had this problem before installing EzInput (because I didn't use english T9) but I guess that you guys should give it a try. Here is what you need:
later edit: I've just noticed that the Dutty's v4. already had the EzInput! Anyhow, it might work if you install the latest version of EzInput (wich I attached here).
And another thing crosses my mind: is it possible that the former version of EzInput (wich is included in the Dutty's v4 release) is actually the reason for all these strange behaviour?

cant install, but the uk t9cab did?

later edit: I've just noticed that the Dutty's v4. already had the EzInput! Anyhow, it might work if you install the latest version of EzInput (wich I attached here).
And another thing crosses my mind: is it possible that the former version of EzInput (wich is included in the Dutty's v4 release) is actually the reason for all these strange behaviour?[/quote]
I would agree with the fact that it is ezinput causing the issue, can you post a link to the thread instead of the CAB.
many thanks
MG

A solution
I installed the nordic Touch HD keyboard on my diamond from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460872
and it sorts the gibberish first word problem out. I am running Dutty v4

Related

Molski's 3.0.0.0 AKU 3.2 Rom software issues

Folks lets try to get a listing of software that you may belive that causes problems with Molski's Rom. I think this will be benifical for newer users to be able to go to one place and see all of the software that we have experienced problems with so they do not have to.
If at all possible for every program that we list as a problem I would like to have an alternative.
From my experience.....
O2 sms plus (for mass sms messages) causes a problem with the native SMS software. It has been known to prevent you from reciving or send sms messages. I am currently hunting for another program but I have not had any luck.
Thanks to all the Chefs that keep us in some great ROMs, keep em comming!
I think we all know SPB time does not work...and man if you install it just go ahead and do a hard reset.
SPB time is one of my FAVORITES but if you want to keep the rom do not install it.
After installing my 8125 got so hung up I couldn't even do a hard reset...I had to reflash from bootloader.
pocketbreeze does the same thing
Sun'n'moon
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=1090597&postcount=266
This is very strange I have been using this rom since it came out with out the autofill or the calender giving me any type of problem. What other software are you running?
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Not running any other software, only what came default with Molski's ROM.
I hate when I need to Add recipient manually every time I start writing SMS's.
Second big issue for me is, that I cant get QWERTZ-keyboard to work with this ROM. I'm finnish, so I need to use scandinavian letters alot almost in every SMS.
My plans for year 2007 are open, so calendar aint so big deal - but i'm still using latest Active Sync and still cant get it to syncronize past meetings.
I encountered problems with clock and date resetting after every time while takeing out battery. Also device stops responding randomly after some time of working in standby mode and nothing except taking battery out is making it to soft reset. But the second problem might be caused by programs I'm using... Do you have similar problems?
KFi said:
Not running any other software, only what came default with Molski's ROM.
I hate when I need to Add recipient manually every time I start writing SMS's.
Second big issue for me is, that I cant get QWERTZ-keyboard to work with this ROM. I'm finnish, so I need to use scandinavian letters alot almost in every SMS.
My plans for year 2007 are open, so calendar aint so big deal - but i'm still using latest Active Sync and still cant get it to syncronize past meetings.
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Try going through the whole cid unlocking again and use the tmobile 2.26 rom then install Molski's rom again. Let me know what happens.
shamus said:
I encountered problems with clock and date resetting after every time while takeing out battery. Also device stops responding randomly after some time of working in standby mode and nothing except taking battery out is making it to soft reset. But the second problem might be caused by programs I'm using... Do you have similar problems?
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I have had this happen with the time and date going back to June 7th once I took the battery. I don't take the battery normaly so I just reset the time. Why is this a problem?
The system lockup is most likely software related, but what other software are you running. If possible I would try to reflash the Rom and install spb backup and backup after you install all the software that comes with the Rom that you use. Then install each additional software and due what you would normaly due when it locks up. If it works then backup again and so on and so on till you narrow the problem down.
This is what I do and it works for me but if there is an easier way that someone knows of please let us know.
This is the whole reason that I started this thread so we can learn from each others problems.
Hey guys I am new to the forum and I just did my first flash to my wizzard and I used this new 3.2 rom. I must say its amazing but I am having problems it keeps turning on by its self when I put it in suspend and the battery dies very fast and the phone book wont let me look up any names that start with V. Can you guys help me out with some advice?
For "Sun'n'moon" application, you can replace by "WeatherPanel" (www.marsware.net) very powerfull.
On my Wizard, 2 problems:
- Prssreader is not compatible with AKU3.2, when installed the phone boot crash.
Today, I don't have found better or equal rss reader software: --> please help me if you know better!!!!
- I don't like clock or date on my task bar, I want to remove it with "RegistryWizard" but when I choose "None" and restart, the sound and network icons are hidden by something: --> Can you help me too????
Molski's Rom is very fast when booting and is not too tunned! (good!!!). Thanks Molski for your work!!!
great rom so far only one minor prob.
1) no pRssReader. the today plugin causes a reboot. no big deal. must be badly written sw.
newbie2369 said:
Hey guys I am new to the forum and I just did my first flash to my wizzard and I used this new 3.2 rom. I must say its amazing but I am having problems it keeps turning on by its self when I put it in suspend and the battery dies very fast and the phone book wont let me look up any names that start with V. Can you guys help me out with some advice?
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Gents 1st off lets stay on the topic.
Dude you must learn to use the search this issue has been addressed by others. Go the Main Molski 3.0.0.0 thread and look in there. If you still cant find it email me and I will help you the best I can.
ed_bracam said:
For "Sun'n'moon" application, you can replace by "WeatherPanel" (www.marsware.net) very powerfull.
On my Wizard, 2 problems:
- Prssreader is not compatible with AKU3.2, when installed the phone boot crash.
Today, I don't have found better or equal rss reader software: --> please help me if you know better!!!!
- I don't like clock or date on my task bar, I want to remove it with "RegistryWizard" but when I choose "None" and restart, the sound and network icons are hidden by something: --> Can you help me too????
Molski's Rom is very fast when booting and is not too tunned! (good!!!). Thanks Molski for your work!!!
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I haven't used the prssreader as of yet but this also came up with Jose's AKU3.2 rom. We have to see what the gods sugest on that one.
Can you take a screen shot so I can see what your talking about?
Its the weekend so I will be working in my nite life bussiness so give me a few days. to respond. Or see if someone else can help as well.
KFi said:
Second big issue for me is, that I cant get QWERTZ-keyboard to work with this ROM. I'm finnish, so I need to use scandinavian letters alot almost in every SMS.
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Try these cabs... Works fine for me (swedish)
ed_bracam said:
- Prssreader is not compatible with AKU3.2, when installed the phone boot crash.
Today, I don't have found better or equal rss reader software: --> please help me if you know better!!!!
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I've attached a copy of Qmail. It handles RSS feeds nicely. It will also handle email. Basically, its a Japanese version of Outlook Express. Good thing is that the program is written in English. But, there is NO documentation in English. You'll have to figure out how to make it work on your own.
There is not setup. Just unzip it and copy it to your storage card. Then just run the "q3u.exe" program.
Can not use slide-out keyboard for cyrillic characters
Guys,
The rom is great! Molski, Faria - thank you very much.
The biggest problem for me is that I can not type Cyrillic characters using the slide-out keyboard. The standard way to set it up (by setting \\HKCU\ControlPanel\Keybd\Locale) - does not work with this ROM.
Any suggestions would be very appreciated.
Hey man, It will not so bad.
Do you get back you backup by SPB Backup? The backuping programs sometimes damage devices GSM. Tray Hard reset and than it will be IMHO OK
I dont belive, that that ROM is such unusefull like you write.
vippie said:
You point the wrong way, I think it's more a cingular issue. I'm very glad with Molski's roms until now. They work perfectly fine overhere.
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Howdy. I just want to make sure I read this correctly. So, you have T-Mobile (from your profile) and Molski's ROM 3.0.0.0 and you have not lost -any- calls/VM Notifications at all? I mean, it took me a few days to realize I was missing calls (when people started complaining at me thinking I was screening).
I am in Cingular, and if you are not missing calls (please, try to make sure as accurately as you can...) do report back, as this would be a huge pointer and there are quite a few of us stuck with this awesome ROM.
[btw: I LOVE this ROM and have no plans to go back... we all just need to figure this one out]
RE: the topic of this thread, this ROM seems 100% stable for me, battery usage and all. The actual thread for the radio/missed calls is: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=287087
Voice Command 1.5
Cant say if it was directly related to the ROM, but Voice Command 1.5 would work for all but contacts and phone. If Contacts or Phone were enabled, VC 1.5 would fail to start.
Upgrade to VC 1.6 solved problem, and 1.6 is waaay better anyway.
Thanks, Molski for this ROM, I'm lovin it.
tharryman said:
Cant say if it was directly related to the ROM, but Voice Command 1.5 would work for all but contacts and phone. If Contacts or Phone were enabled, VC 1.5 would fail to start.
Upgrade to VC 1.6 solved problem, and 1.6 is waaay better anyway.
Thanks, Molski for this ROM, I'm lovin it.
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This is a compatability issue due to the fact that the Contacts Database was changed in AKU 3.x

SMS Delay When Typing.

Does anyone know if there is a cure for what i've found to be my one MAJOR gripe with this fantastic phone.
Why when I type an SMS text message is the phone SO unresponsive? As soon as I start typing the phone is already behind my keypad pushes.
There are seconds between each push and the text appearing on the screen, it's quite regular that I type a few words of a sentence and by the end I have to wait ten seconds for everything to catch up.
I just dont understand why this phone should struggle with such a basic operation. Any ideas?
Yeah mine does the same thing. Thats the ONLY problem I have. THe one workaround i have seen is to close my messaging app once in a while. I always leave it minimized, but have found if I force it closed once in a while, it seems a little more responsive.
yes, i have the same issue from time to time. I regularly close the messaging app and also regularly reboot the device, but it doesn't make any difference that i have noticed...
Have you tried turning off the word completion option? Should be in Settings > Input, that may help but I'm not having that issue so I can't say for sure.
Do all you guys have stock ROM? If you guys have a custom ROM it could be a prog in there called xt9 that lags your typing response, you have to install a cab to fix this and it takes away the lag.
Yes auto complete would also lag your typing response. I would uncheck that.
jb
Hi all!
First off, I would like to thank you all guys for the great info on this site. Secondly what is the cab you refer to called jbmorales?
jbmorales said:
Do all you guys have stock ROM? If you guys have a custom ROM it could be a prog in there called xt9 that lags your typing response, you have to install a cab to fix this and it takes away the lag.
Yes auto complete would also lag your typing response. I would uncheck that.
jb
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Well, i'm using a stock ROM and ... despite seeing a drastic improvement by turning off the auto-complete word option, this seems absurd that the only fix for this problem is to turn off a feature of the phone's texting system.
Surely there is something wrong with the phone or the ROM's that they come custom installed with for this to be the case.
I just cannot see why the only fix for this is to turn off a feature, i'm most disappointed with HTC and/or TMobile depending on who is to blame.
I'm using Duttys Dualtouch 2 ROM and had the lag issue because of the xt9 application. There's a cab called "xt9disable" that fixed the lag. The stock ROM may not have the xt9 applications, but maybe there are some registry tweaks in the cab that may help...
NoKeR said:
Hi all!
First off, I would like to thank you all guys for the great info on this site. Secondly what is the cab you refer to called jbmorales?
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xt9 disable
There ya go.
Well I am going to try the xt9disable, and see if it works for me too. I notice the lag when typing a text message, and also when typing in Goodlink mobile messaging. So it doesn't seem to be software specific, its definately a device or OS thing.
You're probably not interested but i don't experience this issue. I've got a UK version Kaiser with stock ROM, not many apps installed (other than HTC Album, HTC Camera, a few games, Opera Mini 4 (can't wait till opera Mobile 9 ) and a few others). And whether Auto-complete is on or off i don't experience any lag.

Problem with swedish keyboard.

Hey.
I got a swedish X1 it works great except just 1 thing..
For instance when i open an sms converation and start typing imidiatly, For example something with the hardware keys åäö... they arent placed in the same order as the other keys..
For example.. If i type "jag åker" it could very well become "åjag ker"
As in, The normal letters lagg but the åäö does not.
This is a common problem untill the for example sms app is fully loaded...
Anyone experienced this b4?
Old well known problem and as far as I know there are no real fixes for this.
So its a hardware bug?
anyone can explane better?
hargibi said:
So its a hardware bug?
anyone can explane better?
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No its not. its because the software has to translate the letter å,ä,ö into computer term, when you are using other language than swedish in your rom. So if you got a swedish buil with swedish sys, then no problem at all, if you got the time and effort try other roms in eng then swe and youll see big difference.
so to get the best experience with swedish letters, AKA swedish hardware keyboard run a swe. ROM.
It's as simple as that!
I have a Swedish keyboard and I don't have this problem.
mtechfan said:
I have a Swedish keyboard and I don't have this problem.
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Then what's your build and what rom are you using, and what language is your ROM?
smaberg said:
Then what's your build and what rom are you using, and what language is your ROM?
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Currently using Itje's Touch it version 4 (also tried 4.5) WWE
Whatever build version that was ?
Chose swedish KB via CE regeditor.
No problems with that. Even used Generic UK ROM as well and did not have the issue described here.
I have to use English Roms as I am a native English speaker, just happened to be in SWE right now and this is where I got my X1. Maybe that makes a difference?
hargibi said:
Hey.
I got a swedish X1 it works great except just 1 thing..
For instance when i open an sms converation and start typing imidiatly, For example something with the hardware keys åäö... they arent placed in the same order as the other keys..
For example.. If i type "jag åker" it could very well become "åjag ker"
As in, The normal letters lagg but the åäö does not.
This is a common problem untill the for example sms app is fully loaded...
Anyone experienced this b4?
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You mean you have a QWERTZ hardware keybord? if so i had the same problem, just change a value in the registry. HKLM>HARDWARE>DEVICEMAP>KEYBD>chage value in CurLang(hexadecimal) from 409 to 407 and soft reset. it worked for me
skero666 said:
You mean you have a QWERTZ hardware keybord? if so i had the same problem, just change a value in the registry. HKLM>HARDWARE>DEVICEMAP>KEYBD>chage value in CurLang(hexadecimal) from 409 to 407 and soft reset. it worked for me
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I have the same problem as hargibi. Have had the problem with all original swedish sony-ericsson ROMs. The defult value for CurLang on my X1 is 1053(decimal) and 41D(hex). Changing the value for decimal to 407 will only serve to transform the hardware into a standard english qwerty which is not what i'm trying to do.
To me it would have made sense if the å ä ö buttons were slower to react than the rest but here we actually have the opposit problem: They are faster, meaning the word godkänner, for example, would become godäknner or even ägodknner depending on how fast you write.
So the question is: has anyone solved this problem or does anyone have any ideas?
Edit: Okay, so i dissabled word suggestions and this solved the problem. Not a very satisfying compromise since im a bad speller and i liked that funktion but it'll work while we're waiting for a better solution...
Edit 2: Forgot the creds! thanks hamre, for the help!
Go to this page:
http://www.minhembio.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=187520&st=6210
Post #6233 and there is your answer.
onesterud said:
I have the same problem as hargibi. Have had the problem with all original swedish sony-ericsson ROMs. The defult value for CurLang on my X1 is 1053(decimal) and 41D(hex). Changing the value for decimal to 407 will only serve to transform the hardware into a standard english qwerty which is not what i'm trying to do.
To me it would have made sense if the å ä ö buttons were slower to react than the rest but here we actually have the opposit problem: They are faster, meaning the word godkänner, for example, would become godäknner or even ägodknner depending on how fast you write.
So the question is: has anyone solved this problem or does anyone have any ideas?
Edit: Okay, so i dissabled word suggestions and this solved the problem. Not a very satisfying compromise since im a bad speller and i liked that funktion but it'll work while we're waiting for a better solution...
Edit 2: Forgot the creds! thanks hamre, for the help!
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It helps a bit, but not all the way, imho.
Are there any new news about this issue??
Sorry for bringing up this thread from the dead, but its better than creating a new one eh?
Any new about this? Having som problem with almost all latest 6.5 roms that the message-system is really slow. It lags like hell in other words.
ROM overall is suuperfast, havent used any rom as stable as this (826x). But it lags when typing sms.. sometimes i could be like one word ahead when typing fast on the hardware keyboard compared to what is actually shown on the screen. And that messes up with ÅÄÖ. like "jag ska åka bil" end up like "jagå ska ka bil".
And its strange, because the rest of the rom is lightning fast. And to mention, this is when using WM messaging, when typing with HTC message client (go to a contact, switch to messages tab) its running smoothly. BUT, as all knows, HTC message client sucks, how funney is it when typing a sms with the length of 1000 chars then accidentally press "back" and its all gone.. No question "do you want to save?" **** that
Any news about this?
beababe said:
Sorry for bringing up this thread from the dead, but its better than creating a new one eh?
Any new about this? Having som problem with almost all latest 6.5 roms that the message-system is really slow. It lags like hell in other words.
ROM overall is suuperfast, havent used any rom as stable as this (826x). But it lags when typing sms.. sometimes i could be like one word ahead when typing fast on the hardware keyboard compared to what is actually shown on the screen. And that messes up with ÅÄÖ. like "jag ska åka bil" end up like "jagå ska ka bil".
And its strange, because the rest of the rom is lightning fast. And to mention, this is when using WM messaging, when typing with HTC message client (go to a contact, switch to messages tab) its running smoothly. BUT, as all knows, HTC message client sucks, how funney is it when typing a sms with the length of 1000 chars then accidentally press "back" and its all gone.. No question "do you want to save?" **** that
Any news about this?
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As I remember this is due to an issue with the windows mobile operating system, especially with the fact that you are probably using a WWE version (english version) Rom. There is a Swe 6.5 rom out (non-manila though) give it a try and see if the character lag exists. Otherwise i guess you as I have to just live with it I don't think there will ever be a WWE without this lag
There is a fix for the non-åäö lag though here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581901&highlight=lag
It removes the character count, which means you wont know how many sms how send, but there is no lag atlest
Lycka Till! / Good Luck!
maddude88 said:
As I remember this is due to an issue with the windows mobile operating system, especially with the fact that you are probably using a WWE version (english version) Rom. There is a Swe 6.5 rom out (non-manila though) give it a try and see if the character lag exists. Otherwise i guess you as I have to just live with it I don't think there will ever be a WWE without this lag
There is a fix for the non-åäö lag though here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=581901&highlight=lag
It removes the character count, which means you wont know how many sms how send, but there is no lag atlest
Lycka Till! / Good Luck!
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:/ that sucked. I mean, running heavy programs, like word there is no lag when typing. A simple thing like typing a text message on a mobile should work...
If i understood that .cab correctly, you wont be able to send more than 160chars per sms?
beababe said:
:/ that sucked. I mean, running heavy programs, like word there is no lag when typing. A simple thing like typing a text message on a mobile should work...
If i understood that .cab correctly, you wont be able to send more than 160chars per sms?
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Yes you will, but it wont show you how many chars there is, nor how many sms that will amount to so if your sms plan is not unlimited, its quite easy to get a nice bill at the end of the month
And just one more thing, this is my perception of the sms bug, might be someone more knowing than me
Ay its unlimited so that no problem. Ill try!
As i see it, it's not really an issue of non SWE-ROMs... as i still run the stock R3AA SWE ROM and the ÅÄÖ issue is really tiresome... forcing me to slow down my typing and sometimes go back to correct "my" mistakes...
Also, i've turned off the correction/suggestions totally, didn't notice a difference, really weird how they can keep this bug alive throughout all these WM OS builds, such a simple but yet VERY important thing as SMS texting crippled... what a shame.
Edit: oh and i tried that remove letter count fix, but that messed up the texting program, i couldn't enter the email/texting application anymore, so i restored it...
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As i see it, it's not really an issue of non SWE-ROMs... as i still run the stock R3AA SWE ROM and the ÅÄÖ issue is really tiresome... forcing me to slow down my typing and sometimes go back to correct "my" mistakes...
Also, i've turned off the correction/suggestions totally, didn't notice a difference, really weird how they can keep this bug alive throughout all these WM OS builds, such a simple but yet VERY important thing as SMS texting crippled... what a shame.
Edit: oh and i tried that remove letter count fix, but that messed up the texting program, i couldn't enter the email/texting application anymore, so i restored it...
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Hm. Acctually that fix did the trick for me. What ROM are you using? Im running 826x 6.5.5 ROM and just by removing the counting the input is instant and no laggy letters anymore
I used the .cab in attached, install and softreboot quickly.

Fixed Keyboard/Touch screen and more ATT Tilt

*Second post is a quick tutorial of all the steps I did*
For the past year+ I lots of problems with my tilt. Terrible keyboard response problems, like the keyboard only working 25% of the time. The touch screen being unresponsive or slow 50% of the time. I've hated my phone. Thought it was just a piece of junk. I soft reset so much I thought the reset button was going to fail.
I tried nearly every new ROM that came out, each time after being dissapointed because my problems remained, then I'd move on to the disable xt9 cab, tilt keyboard fix cab, keyboard speed up cab (which I'm still not sure if works, since I now have my initial keyboard delay set at 0 and I don't know if I see a difference), etc. Tried the touch sensitivity registry edit, installed the (I think) x1 touch sensitivity cab. But nothing seemed to change a thing.
I had realized that most of my issues were software related because sometimes things would work fine (for a couple minutes). I've tried the press the hell out of the keyboard buttons fix that was supposed to regain contact between the key, and the sensor for the keyboard, and pretty much everything out there.
Then I recently installed the HTC ROM for the Tilt, and voila, I have a new phone, works nearly flawlessly.
Since then, I have installed Manila 2d (start with update 20, install everything included, then install the latest version) youtube/opera/google maps/audio manager/pictures etc. all work perfectly, installed the Manila2D v20 N2A patch which fixed the weather tab to show my home town, M2DC and applied a new skin, Total Commander (to move the edited weathercities file), Wstask (awesome), ATT Navigator, Windows Live (great for syncing contacts), and it works perfectly. It's fast. I can use my phone now without the struggle, and am happier than I've been in a long time.
I haven't heard anyone suggesting this so I thought I'd let everyone know. This is the phone I always wanted from my Tilt. I have to assume that the minor hardware differences between versions creates a problem with non-native ROM's, and if you are having problems I recommend trying a factory ROM made for your device, you may be pleasantly surprised.
Dustin
*edit* As I'm sure most know, there are hardware issues with the keyboard for many, this will obviously not fix those issues. However, I was able to fix the massive software issues I've had which also effected the keyboard. I still have a testy Y key, but it's not a huge issue when compared to what it was like before. My phone works great.
Correct Forum?
Flashed to the HTC ROM for the AT&T Tilt, download here:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspxp_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Soft reset immediately after screen alignment, and setup to avoid bloatware.
Adjusted settings for MediaNet:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1632060#post1632060
Installed the following cab files (here's the files, install order, what to do, how to do it, etc. is up to you, try to search for yourselves, I'll try to answer questions posed, included iFonz, and a couple other cabs for the heck of it if you guys wanna play with em):
http://http://rapidshare.com/files/239391014/Cab_Files.rar
Read the following post for info on installing m2d:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=425851
To install telenav go to the following address from your phone:
ota.telenav.com/att/tnn
If you do it right, I think you'll be happy campers, enjoy!
Dustin
I've been having the same issues with my tilt as well. EXTREMELY annoying. I love the tilt, but hate that it constantly lags.
Do you have a link to the ROM from HTC?
The last ROM from HTC for the tilt gave me problems
Yes please post the link as i am also having this problem.
Thanks
Link inside!
Here y'all go. It's important to note that this is ROM build 1.62.502.0 and will change your radio to 1.27.14.09. Further info can be found HERE
HTC AT&T Tilt ROM
Different link to the Rom
Here is the link for the page HTC posted the Tilt ROM download if you would like to read first before downloading:
http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownload.aspx?p_id=67&cat=2&dl_id=94
Hope this helps you guys. For me it was night and day. Let me know if this helps you guys.
Also, I wonder if there are any ROM cooks out there who are interested in cooking ROM's based on the Tilt ROM. That would be sweeet!!!
Dustin
*edit* I'm not sure about the ROM tmnt.mikey posted, but the link I've posted does not change the radio to that version, I flashed and have radio version 1.65.21.18. I'm not sure what radio I was using pre-flash (oops).
does this work with kaiser as well?
because at&t does not have the front camera...
so if i flash to this rom, will it render my front camera unusable?
not that it's really that important, i'd rather have my keyboard functioning well again.
other than that, is there any complication if i run this on my kaiser?
because in the HTC page, it's said... only for at&t tilt...
Kaiser ROM
I have no way to know if this ROM will work for the Kaiser, someone would have to try it out and let us know. I can't imagine it would brick the phone, but the keyboard layout is different, and the front camera thing. However, you might look for the latest Kaiser ROM from HTC then apply all the cabs you want and see if that works for you. I installed the ATT ROM, then did a soft reset before the apps were loaded to save space and clutter, then installed just the cabs I prefer.
It's been almost a week now, and it is still working perfectly. I've installed almost 20 different cabs, it is running faster, and more stable than it ever has. I love my phone now. The difference is stunning. I haven't had any issues thus far, and I've never experienced that before. I hit a button and it works, I touch the screen it works. I'm going off about it so much because I want everyone to know this phone is not a lost cause. I'm still a little in shock how well it works. I had written it off, and thought between HTC, and Microsoft that this phone was just going to remain a glitchy pain in the rear. My phone was so difficult to use that I almost stopped texting all together. I was practically marking off each day on the calendar waiting for the remaining year of my contract to run out.
Dustin
Hi all..
my keyboard also hard to be pressed (X,B,N and fn key),other keys are perfect (easy to be pressed)..
im wondering why did that happen..
im using WM6.1 official for TyTN II,,so nothing is cooked..
anyone knows how to fix this issue?
cause it's so annoying to press thoses button hardly..sigh..
thank you..
berramm2001 said:
Hi all..
my keyboard also hard to be pressed (X,B,N and fn key),other keys are perfect (easy to be pressed)..
im wondering why did that happen..
im using WM6.1 official for TyTN II,,so nothing is cooked..
anyone knows how to fix this issue?
cause it's so annoying to press thoses button hardly..sigh..
thank you..
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i actually followed the link from dustintm...
but the download was not for my area (i'm in singapore)
and you can't download it anyways...
you need to key in your serial number...
and it has to match the region...
so if that really fixed the keyboard problem...
congrats to those guys in the same region as dustintm...
as for why it happened, i also don't know...
i read in some other thread that it's unlikely if it's dust or the rubber...
i also think it has to do with the ROM, since some days my 'a' keys works fine...
Asian TyTN II ROM
Hey Jonathan,
Here is the link to the HTC Asia download page for the TyTN II:
http://www.htc.com/au/supportdownloadlist.aspx?p_id=13&act=sd&cat=all
Just so everyone knows, this ROM change I am talking about does not fix hardware related issues. I still have a testy "y" key, it works most of the time, but I do have to press it harder at times.
Prior to my find, I was having massive keyboard problems, sluggishness, having to press each key multiple times, etc. I was also having similar problems with the touch screen too.
This will not fix a hardware issue (obviously?). But I've found the new factory ROM has made my phone operate almost without flaw... for the first time. Responsive, stable and consistent. I can deal with the "y", I couldn't deal the snetacnes loking lik tihs (sentances looking like this (all the time)), and all the other problems/lock ups, etc.
Dustin
Keyboard problems sound like a hardware issue. You should try to find a local cellphone store that does repairs.
There is one in L.A. that can fix this for under $50.
Keyboard Problems
I found that I was experiencing hardware (keyboard), AND software related issues (keyboard, touch screen, sluggishness, and lock-ups). After installing this ROM all software issues have disappeared. I am very certain of this. One example is that occasionally the keyboard would work almost flawlessly (with the exception of the y key) and other times it was a complete struggle, multiple keypresses to register once, delay, etc. That made it clear to me that I was having software related issues.
I imagine it could have been ROM issues, or software related conflicts, but either way, I have solved my problems. I flashed to the latest HTC ATT Tilt ROM, and the following programs/cabs:
HTC Enchasements
HTC Audio Manager 2.0
herg62123 FSP, DShow, WMP Yo...
HTC Album 2.0
Google Maps
XDA-SPC-Noonski HTC YouTube
herg62123 2DManila_1_20_19131...
Customization Customize_Tool
snctln M2DC
C. Ghisler & Co. Total Commander
Debarron Manila2D v20N2A Patch
Windows Live 10.6.0034.0800 (Fixed)
waku WkTASK
AT&T Navigator
XDA-Team Opal Volume Control
Systweak Inc Reg Cleaner
SJ SamsungOmnia_Driver_D3D
Massimo Colored Top Bar
ELF Calculator Skin
The EquinoXe Wizard ReTOUCHed...
JUVS HTC Enlarge Start Menu
HTC WMP Touch Skin
Moble Software Design, LLC FreeCaddie
J.S. Advanced Configuration Tool 3.2
Microsoft .NET CF 3.5
XDA-Team NEW M2D
Dustin
BTW Trjons thanks for your post.
be a hero post all your cabs or links
So, it is heresy you speak! Stock rom! Yeah, I too am sick of the laggy unreliable roms. WAY too much wasted time, energy and effort. Gone back to ATT even though on TMO. How about posting your cabs or links for the lazy ones of us out here?
davewaave said:
So, it is heresy you speak! Stock rom! Yeah, I too am sick of the laggy unreliable roms. WAY too much wasted time, energy and effort. Gone back to ATT even though on TMO. How about posting your cabs or links for the lazy ones of us out here?
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Also, did you get rid of the AT&T bloatware on yours as well? On a quest for the perfect ROM myself, so I will keep watching the thread for more info.
Would like to see those links as well.
If you want to leave out the ATT bloat ware, after you go through the screen align, do a reset. It will fail to run the script for the **** add ons and then you have basically a virgin rom.
Cab files
Hey lazy people ! Here's a link to all my cabs:
http://rapidshare.com/files/239391014/Cab_Files.rar
I'm somewhat lazy too, so you're going to have to download all of them then pick through to get the ones you want. Enjoy!
Dustin
Thanks
Your're a hero! Thanks for the cabs
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
WHOA! Virus detected "win32/virut" after extracting file then accessing folder with "glossy black bars.exe"
!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Hopefully I've removed the infected file.
I didn't know glossyblackbars.exe had a virus???
Don't need it anyway, I deleted it, recompressed the cab files and re-upped to rapidshare. I edited all my posts with the new zip link.
Please let me know if it's virus free now... so sorry!
Dustin
Thanks so much, Dustin!!! I think I will be loading the AT&T 6.1 ROM again, following your fixes, and praying that my 2-PC ActiveSync problem somehow gets resolved along the way, too. (We need a "crossing fingers" smilie! HA!)
I'm just not looking forward to setting my Tilt up all over again. Must wait until I'm in the mood.
Dustintm said:
I didn't know glossyblackbars.exe had a virus???
Don't need it anyway, I deleted it, recompressed the cab files and re-upped to rapidshare. I edited all my posts with the new zip link.
Please let me know if it's virus free now... so sorry!
Dustin
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new to WM 6.1 and having issues

ok so Im a noob when it comes to the HTC tilt. i bought it about a week ago and since then i have upgraded to WM 6.1 and installed the Kaiser Tweak, Black Theme, Opera Mobile 10 beta and Mobium GPS software. The phone seems kind of laggy, when i go to "wake it up" it will occasionally flash then immediately go "back to sleep". I also noticed today that when i slide the keyboard out to txt message, the word completion window pops up with nothing in it and if i hit the menu tab there are just hyphens in it, no actual words i.e. delete, forward,insert......so on. I need help. i flashed the WM 6.1 last night and didnt have these problems till about an hour or so ago....with the exception of the lag.
Welcom to the WM 6.1 'upgrade'
Although I've never had a Tilt (mines just the HTC version of a TyTN II), some of the issues you describe were problems I'd found with the default HTC 6.1 upgrade. Sometimes what people expect to be an improvement because it's newer, isn't necessarily better. If you want to go back to how it was, read up the Wiki here at xda-dev which will tell you how you can flash back to the original WM 6.0 setup (or perhaps you may prefer the slightly newer but still WM 6.0, 1.62 series ROM referred to here ).
ok....well ive been browsing and ive seen ALOT of these "cooked" roms. what r these exactly and has anyone had luck with a specific one. i know that everyone has their preference but again...im new. I dig the black theme and the threaded SMS is a must have. i also like the kaiser tweak....does any one have a file for threaded SMS if i decide to go back to 6.0
Maybe something about it in the wiki
rustypnus said:
ok....well ive been browsing and ive seen ALOT of these "cooked" roms. what r these exactly and has anyone had luck with a specific one.
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No, no-one has ever had any luck with a cooked (or customised) ROM... But seriously if you want to know which is best it will depend what you want it to do and even then asking which is best is frowned upon here at xda-dev (because it can cause flame wars so it's a no-no). What most people do is try them and see. I've tried a few and always ended up going back to stock to get fast GPS. Have a search for threaded SMS - I don't recall if that's possible under WM 6.0 but maybe there's a cab around. Have a good read in the wiki section as well -there's lots of usefull info in there. I hardly ever use sms so what I have is good enough for my needs.
Check out Solace v3.1,
looks pretty spiffy if you ask me. Finger-friendly as well.
rustypnus said:
ok so Im a noob when it comes to the HTC tilt. i bought it about a week ago and since then i have upgraded to WM 6.1 and installed the Kaiser Tweak, Black Theme, Opera Mobile 10 beta and Mobium GPS software. The phone seems kind of laggy, when i go to "wake it up" it will occasionally flash then immediately go "back to sleep". I also noticed today that when i slide the keyboard out to txt message, the word completion window pops up with nothing in it and if i hit the menu tab there are just hyphens in it, no actual words i.e. delete, forward,insert......so on. I need help. i flashed the WM 6.1 last night and didnt have these problems till about an hour or so ago....with the exception of the lag.
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Well I'm not sure if you have tried that or not but, did you check your memory?? like is you mobile memory or even your memory card full or kind of full?? that really makes the mobile sooooooo slow and boring specially if you have an 8GB almost full memory card. One more thing, it's better if you close the word completion option as i had a problem before that the mobile had saved too many entries that it reached a limit were each time i try to write a msg it just freezes the whole mobile and that problem wasn't solved except when i stopped the word completion
rustypnus said:
ok so Im a noob when it comes to the HTC tilt. i bought it about a week ago and since then i have upgraded to WM 6.1 and installed the Kaiser Tweak, Black Theme, Opera Mobile 10 beta and Mobium GPS software. The phone seems kind of laggy, when i go to "wake it up" it will occasionally flash then immediately go "back to sleep". I also noticed today that when i slide the keyboard out to txt message, the word completion window pops up with nothing in it and if i hit the menu tab there are just hyphens in it, no actual words i.e. delete, forward,insert......so on. I need help. i flashed the WM 6.1 last night and didnt have these problems till about an hour or so ago....with the exception of the lag.
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for the bold part in the quote above, disable cleartype in landscape...the functionality is broken in most combinations of video drivers with WM6.1 on the kaiser.

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