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Fastest and lightest Herald ROM!

I am so annoyed at my Herald these days. Everything is always so slow (even with overclocking) and I am always running out of space. Perhaps I run too much on it, but I was wondering, what is the fastest and lightest (most usable space and memory) ROM out there for the Herald. I would not even mind going back to WM5, but in my experience WM6 has been faster anyways.
I have used many ROMs but settled for PDAVIET 4.17.07.12 as it seems to be the least buggy and fast, but not as fast as some of the first iterations of the WM6 ROMS.
Just clicking on stuff and waiting all the time really is annoying me to death these days.

Try the Touch_It V2.3 rom.
It's really fast but still a beta; the rom is great except for the keyboard. IT'je promised to have it cleared on very short notice.

What happenes with the keyboard? If just a few symbols are mismatched, I could deal with that.
Anyhow, why don't we collect a list of the roms here and rate them on speed and lightness?

phony said:
What happenes with the keyboard? If just a few symbols are mismatched, I could deal with that.
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The xt9 won't shut off when using the hardware keyboard. Some keys work OK, some keys don't. Whenever I try to type an 'a' or an 'l' this annoying 'add word' pops up. It really gets on your nerves when typing text messages.
I have been fiddling with it on the train yesterday because it was frustrating me so much. I have edited the registry, which at least got rid of the 'add word' question. I searched for 'xt9' and started editing values from 1 to 0
Try editing values in
HKLM\Software\OEM\MASxt9 (change from 1 to 0 to turn stuff off)
Afterwards I also completely renamed the following entry:
HKLM\Software\Tegic (I renamed it to Tegicx)
And that seems to have got rid of the xt9 completely. Unfortunately the touch-it keyboard won't function anymore at all after doing this. But at least I can use my hardware keyboard again on this otherwise fine ROM

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=340403&highlight=terra
is it this rom you mean?

I am no authority as a matter of fact I just got my phone a little over a week ago. I was looking for the "fastest". Tried them all in relatively short period of time and figured out for myself that if you want something specific learn to make it yourself. Tons of great tutorials here using the search. Personally I took the RUU and followed ITJE's tutorial and removed all the software I concsidered bloat. Then applied the pagefile manipulation. Finally got all the apps and games I like and I am rather happy. Currently I am considering removing Windows Media Player and just using TCPMP only. But again it is all about personal preference. No one elses ROM will make you happy like your own. ITJE's tutorial is solid and if you go step by step you will make a great final product.
PS. If you want to try mine pm I can give you a link. I didn't do much special just removed some built in apps and set my pagefile.

jappo01 said:
Try the Touch_It V2.3 rom.
It's really fast but still a beta; the rom is great except for the keyboard. IT'je promised to have it cleared on very short notice.
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I just realized the Touch-IT 2.3 ROM you were talking about was only for the Wing, right? not the p4350, as I have...

phony said:
I just realized the Touch-IT 2.3 ROM you were talking about was only for the Wing, right? not the p4350, as I have...
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Try Touch-IT 3.0 which is specifically for the p4350. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=345347

phony said:
I am so annoyed at my Herald these days. Everything is always so slow (even with overclocking) and I am always running out of space. Perhaps I run too much on it, but I was wondering, what is the fastest and lightest (most usable space and memory) ROM out there for the Herald. I would not even mind going back to WM5, but in my experience WM6 has been faster anyways.
I have used many ROMs but settled for PDAVIET 4.17.07.12 as it seems to be the least buggy and fast, but not as fast as some of the first iterations of the WM6 ROMS.
Just clicking on stuff and waiting all the time really is annoying me to death these days.
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Too it is interesting to me, is still ROMs with such high efficiency?

SMS Delay When Typing.

Does anyone know if there is a cure for what i've found to be my one MAJOR gripe with this fantastic phone.
Why when I type an SMS text message is the phone SO unresponsive? As soon as I start typing the phone is already behind my keypad pushes.
There are seconds between each push and the text appearing on the screen, it's quite regular that I type a few words of a sentence and by the end I have to wait ten seconds for everything to catch up.
I just dont understand why this phone should struggle with such a basic operation. Any ideas?

Yeah mine does the same thing. Thats the ONLY problem I have. THe one workaround i have seen is to close my messaging app once in a while. I always leave it minimized, but have found if I force it closed once in a while, it seems a little more responsive.

yes, i have the same issue from time to time. I regularly close the messaging app and also regularly reboot the device, but it doesn't make any difference that i have noticed...

Have you tried turning off the word completion option? Should be in Settings > Input, that may help but I'm not having that issue so I can't say for sure.

Do all you guys have stock ROM? If you guys have a custom ROM it could be a prog in there called xt9 that lags your typing response, you have to install a cab to fix this and it takes away the lag.
Yes auto complete would also lag your typing response. I would uncheck that.
jb

Hi all!
First off, I would like to thank you all guys for the great info on this site. Secondly what is the cab you refer to called jbmorales?
jbmorales said:
Do all you guys have stock ROM? If you guys have a custom ROM it could be a prog in there called xt9 that lags your typing response, you have to install a cab to fix this and it takes away the lag.
Yes auto complete would also lag your typing response. I would uncheck that.
jb
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Well, i'm using a stock ROM and ... despite seeing a drastic improvement by turning off the auto-complete word option, this seems absurd that the only fix for this problem is to turn off a feature of the phone's texting system.
Surely there is something wrong with the phone or the ROM's that they come custom installed with for this to be the case.
I just cannot see why the only fix for this is to turn off a feature, i'm most disappointed with HTC and/or TMobile depending on who is to blame.

I'm using Duttys Dualtouch 2 ROM and had the lag issue because of the xt9 application. There's a cab called "xt9disable" that fixed the lag. The stock ROM may not have the xt9 applications, but maybe there are some registry tweaks in the cab that may help...

NoKeR said:
Hi all!
First off, I would like to thank you all guys for the great info on this site. Secondly what is the cab you refer to called jbmorales?
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xt9 disable
There ya go.

Well I am going to try the xt9disable, and see if it works for me too. I notice the lag when typing a text message, and also when typing in Goodlink mobile messaging. So it doesn't seem to be software specific, its definately a device or OS thing.

You're probably not interested but i don't experience this issue. I've got a UK version Kaiser with stock ROM, not many apps installed (other than HTC Album, HTC Camera, a few games, Opera Mini 4 (can't wait till opera Mobile 9 ) and a few others). And whether Auto-complete is on or off i don't experience any lag.

[CAB] Speeding up your Hardware keyboard Responce - Disable XT9

This is a cab that i used to ALWAYS use on my Kaiser to speed up the keyboard response of the device. Just tried it on my Fuze running ROMEOS and it definitely showed signs of improvement.
Install the CAB and soft-reset. Post your findings to this thread.
Makes this change:
Code:
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\compime.dll
Layout Text=COMP IME
To Turn on again
HKEY_LOCAL_MACHINE\System\CurrentControlSet\Contro l\Layouts\e0010409
Ime File=\windows\eT9Ime.dll
Layout Text=eT9 IME

Hi, I've tried this registry hack on TouchHD with production firmware, and it certainly does disable XT9 and re-enable the native WM predictive text, *BUT* it makes my TouchHD slow to a crawl. The phone still works but extremely slow (like 2-3 second reponse delay) and also gets extremely hot behind the CPU. It's as though there is still some process in the background desperately making unanswered function calls to XT9. I've had to re-enable XT9 just to make my TouchHD responsive.
Can anyone point me to a CPU/process tool so I could see what it is taking up all those CPU cycles and generating all that heat when XT9 is disabled?

You tried that hack on the Touch HD? Does that even have a hardware keyboard? I don't think that it was supposed to work with that phone. (Maybe?)

yeah.. this would have no effect on sip inputs...

Well there is one problem i got is that when i install this tweak i cant type æøå on the hw keyboard:/ (norwegian keyboard) so is there away to use this tweak with norwegian keyboard support?

Still searching as well
I am also still searching for a way to get rid of the whole friggin' black et9 input bar, but keep my hardware keyboard to be responsive to the sym key, and the function key for typing euro sign and pound sign.
I hate the black input bar, especially since after you type first name in a text message address bar, and press space for a second name, it fills ion a name that's highlighted at the moment.
That's just so annoying...
Anyone any clue on how to deactivate et9, but keep the hardware keyboard fully functional?

Is it working for Raphael??

chetstriker said:
Is it working for Raphael??
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it is posted in the Raphael Software section. do you now think it's working?

I think it wirked.
I have jsut installed it on my kaiser and it seems to work very well, But i am also old school and running solace v1, works great thank you! no more.. t hanky ou...lol

just pade the registry change...
seems to be working well... barely any lag at all...
i've made this change VVV as well in hopes to fix this problem... it also helped a little
Code:
HKEY_CURRENT_USER\ControlPanel\Keybd
“InitialDelay”=dword: dec 775
“RepeatRate”=dword: dec 23
with this one tho seems a lot better.

After i uninstalled this "disable xT9" my manilla sms meny dissapeared... Anyone knows how to restore it?

this actually got my sip full qwerty keyboard stuck in number mode...
i just changed it back to et9ime.dll and it's back to normal...
too bad... seemed to work well for the hard keyboard.

Works well for me on my HTC Touch Pro.
Thanks heaps ... it's been bugging me for a while.

are u able to uninstall this if dont like?
are u able to uninstall this?

frankjr927 said:
are u able to uninstall this?
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When I uninstalled this my sms meny in manilla disapeared :S

Works great for me, I've been looking for something like this! Thank you very much!

just a lil warning...
Be careful installing this on touch pros/fuzes. It has been known to get the on screen keyboard stuck on numeric mode. Some ppl have gone upto a week or two without the problem showing up. Just a heads up.

just a lil warning...
Unfortunatley, I did not read this post prior to installing the xt9 disable software on my Fuze. I really enjoyed everything, such as the older style auto correct, and the list of suggested words. Now that juicy "Full QWERTY" is stuck in number mode. Is there a fix for this? Any help will be much appreciated.
Cheers,
Rick

I did the reg change to get the win mob predictive text... which worked until I did a soft reset. After that, my FULL QWERTY is also stuck in number mode.
Changed the reg back to original, and I got back my FULL QWERTY. No need to soft reset.

this helped me! HTC messaging with hardware keyboard on xperia is much faster now... but not windows messaging...
but I found this, which helped out with that too...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=4195099#post4195099
great!

T9 Word Suggestion Oddity

Hi all, I've been unable to find a solution to this strange and irritating problem...all I have managed to find is this post describing the same thing.
Basically the phone will suggest words incorrectly and not show the real word you actually want. If you delete it and type the same again though it'll appear as normal. This occurs using both the Phone Keypad and Compact Qwerty.
Secondly the first word in the suggested list is a nonsense word every time though it is at least not selected.
e.g. typing hello on the Phone Keypad displays "gdjjm" before hello or "gello" using the Compact Qwerty.
I first encountered this after installing Dutty's latest ROM even though the change log for that says it's fixed. Today though I installed CT's latest ROM instead which initially had fixed the problem, however suddenly it is back just the same as before. If anyone has any idea what's causing this, or more importantly how to fix it, it'd be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mik

Anyone got any ideas?

Ive got the exact same problem. Quite annoying.
Im also on dutty's V4.
For example for me, i press 8 then 4 then 3 (to get the word "the") and it will produce something like "vif", which obviously isnt a word, i will delete the three characters and repress 8,4,3 and i will get the word "the" with other alternative suggestions. Happens only sometimes, and i think ive pressed a wrong button, but when i work out the letters, i know ive pressed it correctly.
Any help would be great (maybe this should be posted into dutty's thread)

kaos_king said:
Ive got the exact same problem. Quite annoying.
Im also on dutty's V4.
For example for me, i press 8 then 4 then 3 (to get the word "the") and it will produce something like "vif", which obviously isnt a word, i will delete the three characters and repress 8,4,3 and i will get the word "the" with other alternative suggestions. Happens only sometimes, and i think ive pressed a wrong button, but when i work out the letters, i know ive pressed it correctly.
Any help would be great (maybe this should be posted into dutty's thread)
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Im also using dutty v4, and i get stuff like that happening all of the time.
for eg, i type "res" for "rest" and the suggestions are: "residents,bisho" , "Research" , "result" , "rest"
another, if i type "arg" for "argue" the first suggestion is "argumentation" then "argumentative" then "arguement" and there is no argue!!
i mean WTF is residents,bisho? i have never added that to my dictionary in my life!
Someone at Micro**** neads to learn how to spell, or optimize the way the dictionary is utilised.
It is funny, when i had a hermes, it came with windows mobile 5 and there was no problems there!
anyone know how to fix this?

I have the exact same "problem".
I'm not on dutty's, but am using CT's Version 6.4 HD now (used a few other versions of him too) and the problem occurs in all these versions.. Even the original ROM had this problem in my case.
It can be a little annoying so I hope there is a solution for this..
MysticGenius said:
another, if i type "arg" for "argue" the first suggestion is "argumentation" then "argumentative" then "arguement" and there is no argue!!
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If you add "argue" to your wordlist, it will appear as the first word in the future, it's the best solution at this time imo, but i totally agree with you that a word like "argue" should be in the dictionairy by default.
Cheers!

whis said:
I have the exact same "problem".!
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Just before typing this i have just send my friend the following
"you seduction to come to my place...."
when i was wanting to say "you sed to come to my place...."
i know im abbreviating said to sed, but shurely there is something else in the english language between sed.......&.......seduction!

I've had this on both Duty's and CT's latest ROMs so I wonder if the problem lies with the standard ROM on which they're based?
It's becomming very annoying to write messages as I'm having to type half my words out twice so it finds the right one! Can anyone help in any way?

maybe there is a solution to this problem
MikLSP said:
Hi all, I've been unable to find a solution to this strange and irritating problem...all I have managed to find is this post describing the same thing.
Basically the phone will suggest words incorrectly and not show the real word you actually want. If you delete it and type the same again though it'll appear as normal. This occurs using both the Phone Keypad and Compact Qwerty.
Secondly the first word in the suggested list is a nonsense word every time though it is at least not selected.
e.g. typing hello on the Phone Keypad displays "gdjjm" before hello or "gello" using the Compact Qwerty.
I first encountered this after installing Dutty's latest ROM even though the change log for that says it's fixed. Today though I installed CT's latest ROM instead which initially had fixed the problem, however suddenly it is back just the same as before. If anyone has any idea what's causing this, or more importantly how to fix it, it'd be very much appreciated.
Thanks,
Mik
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I am from Romania (Europe) and I needed a romanianT9 so I installed the EzInput keyboard from http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=426281. But I also noticed that I don't have the described problem with the english T9 even if I also use Dutt's v4. I'm not sure if I had this problem before installing EzInput (because I didn't use english T9) but I guess that you guys should give it a try. Here is what you need:
later edit: I've just noticed that the Dutty's v4. already had the EzInput! Anyhow, it might work if you install the latest version of EzInput (wich I attached here).
And another thing crosses my mind: is it possible that the former version of EzInput (wich is included in the Dutty's v4 release) is actually the reason for all these strange behaviour?

cant install, but the uk t9cab did?

later edit: I've just noticed that the Dutty's v4. already had the EzInput! Anyhow, it might work if you install the latest version of EzInput (wich I attached here).
And another thing crosses my mind: is it possible that the former version of EzInput (wich is included in the Dutty's v4 release) is actually the reason for all these strange behaviour?[/quote]
I would agree with the fact that it is ezinput causing the issue, can you post a link to the thread instead of the CAB.
many thanks
MG

A solution
I installed the nordic Touch HD keyboard on my diamond from this link:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=460872
and it sorts the gibberish first word problem out. I am running Dutty v4

Need to activate threaded sms

Wm6.1 offers threaded sms which has been suppressed by touchwiz. I like the touchwiz black look and font spacing etc while need the threaded style. Is it possible ?

open registry editor, and got to
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext\DLL\
change "mms.dll" to " htmlnote.dll "
Threading SMS for Inbox..
Go to :
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
change the value "1" to value "0".
soft reset and all done..
I haven't tried this on my Phone, as I dont need threaded SMS.. ty it for ur self and reply if it works...

Aafi-rocks said:
open registry editor, and got to
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext\DLL\
change "mms.dll" to " htmlnote.dll "
Threading SMS for Inbox..
Go to :
HKCU\Software\Microsoft\Inbox\Settings\OEM\SMSInboxThreadingDisabled
change the value "1" to value "0".
soft reset and all done..
I haven't tried this on my Phone, as I dont need threaded SMS.. ty it for ur self and reply if it works...
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I know of this option and have tried it. It doesn't work as touchwiz ignores it. There is a similar option for samsung which once came up during my search but can't find it anymore. Most probably both needs to be tweaked.

Aside from the reg tweak posted already you have to do this also
Change:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="mms.dll"
to:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="htmlnote.dll"

One ques guys how do u find the registry editor?thanks in advance

boogiecornejo said:
Aside from the reg tweak posted already you have to do this also
Change:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="mms.dll"
to:
[HKEY_CURRENT_USER\Sofware\Microsoft\Inbox\MsgTypes\IPM\SMStext]
"DLL"="htmlnote.dll"
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Thanks but have you tried it ? And yr experience? I think on this and other sites it is said by those who have done it that the sms process becomes extremely slow and there are additional problems as well.

This registry tweak worked for me, but I don't use touchwiz. However, if you want threaded sms but don't mind slower response, you can use the link message.lnk which points to sms-mms.exe instead of the normal tmail.exe

new2city said:
This registry tweak worked for me, but I don't use touchwiz. However, if you want threaded sms but don't mind slower response, you can use the link message.lnk which points to sms-mms.exe instead of the normal tmail.exe
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Problem is, if u do not use touchwiz & hv w6.1, u might throw away this phone as, wm6.1 was just not meant for touch screen. The default wm sms/mail program is ver difficult with fingers. Also there is the white on black screen of samsung and the larger font. I need to consider these issues and have been repeated going back to touchwiz

bimboybimboy said:
Problem is, if u do not use touchwiz & hv w6.1, u might throw away this phone as, wm6.1 was just not meant for touch screen. The default wm sms/mail program is ver difficult with fingers. Also there is the white on black screen of samsung and the larger font. I need to consider these issues and have been repeated going back to touchwiz
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Touchwiz, sucks, but the phone is great. So, your statement is flawed.
Try other UI's instead, there are many free and more customisable ones, or other sms apps.

new2city said:
Touchwiz, sucks, but the phone is great. So, your statement is flawed.
Try other UI's instead, there are many free and more customisable ones, or other sms apps.
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If the software is always disturbing you and cannot be totally discarded then its not a perfect situation.
Re: alternate solutions, I am still looking for one under wm6.1 as 6.5 is not offered in my country. Unfortunately, there are many ideas but little for wm6.1 anywhere. So cannot call it a satisfactory situation.
Touchwiz for all its fault offer good finger based usage under wm6.1 and as I said it really like the black skin.
So is there any solution which satisfies the above requirements under wm6.1 or should I forget it and wait for 6.5 whenever that happens.

I am in the same boat.
I can upgrade to 6.5 but don't want to.
I have 6.1 and actually like Touch Wiz (more so than tf3d on my htc touch pro).