Choppy TF3D, please help! - Touch Diamond, MDA Compact IV General

Hi, I have a HTC Diamond with 1.93 WWE ROM and I have alot of lag in touchflo3d. I even applied all the tweaks in advanced config and tf3d config and only got a bit better..nonetheless still bad. Anyone know what might be the cause? I'm not running any processes in the background, and I do have the ati 3d driver installed. Awaiting for an answer on this, much appreciated!

christiano88 said:
Hi, I have a HTC Diamond with 1.93 WWE ROM and I have alot of lag in touchflo3d. I even applied all the tweaks in advanced config and tf3d config and only got a bit better..nonetheless still bad. Anyone know what might be the cause? I'm not running any processes in the background, and I do have the ati 3d driver installed. Awaiting for an answer on this, much appreciated!
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What ROM are you using? The original one provided with your Phone?
Try flashing a custom one, these already have tweaks in them, so no need to tweak yourself and you can try the ones based on 2.0.3 which seems to be faster.

yes I have original one 1.93.402.2 I think. I didn't flash because I never done it, so I'm a noob regarding that and I don't wanna brick my phone.

Related

quick question before upgrading?

I have been thinking of upgrading to touch-it rom but before i do i would like to know is it common for the tmo wing to run ultra slow to the poin that only 1 program at a time will only run? its to the point that if i am using pocket ie and get a text message the wing locks up. will upgrading to a new rom help this problem or shoud i go thru tmo first? im familar with flashing these phones so im not afraid to do it i just want to know if its just me with the slowness of the wing or everybody?
I have the following apps installed incase anybody has comments on what else could be slowing my device down.
htc home
wizard retouched dialer
clear temp
weatherpanel
schaps advanced configuration tool
pocketcm 0.15
psShutXP
Thanks in advance.
kree said:
I have been thinking of upgrading to touch-it rom but before i do i would like to know is it common for the tmo wing to run ultra slow to the poin that only 1 program at a time will only run? its to the point that if i am using pocket ie and get a text message the wing locks up. will upgrading to a new rom help this problem or shoud i go thru tmo first? im familar with flashing these phones so im not afraid to do it i just want to know if its just me with the slowness of the wing or everybody?
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The stock ROM isn't very good with memory...
Any of the touch-it ROMs will be a HUGE improvement. (Especially with the Pagepool changes.) You can even build your own version with my kitchen. (EasyBakeOven) It'll also be based on Touch-IT but you'll have to make your own Pagepool changes.
kree said:
I have the following apps installed incase anybody has comments on what else could be slowing my device down.
htc home
wizard retouched dialer
clear temp
weatherpanel
schaps advanced configuration tool
pocketcm 0.15
psShutXP
Thanks in advance.
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None of those things should really slow it down. I have a LOT more junk in mine...
ivanmmj said:
The stock ROM isn't very good with memory...
Any of the touch-it ROMs will be a HUGE improvement. (Especially with the Pagepool changes.) You can even build your own version with my kitchen. (EasyBakeOven) It'll also be based on Touch-IT but you'll have to make your own Pagepool changes.
None of those things should really slow it down. I have a LOT more junk in mine...
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Thank you very much will be flashing soon!

Slow Programs scrooling

Hi, is it normal that srooling in programs is slower against other devices? For example my brothers Asus P535 has perfect speed, if he moves slider quickly, no problem, no lag, absolutely smooth, bud diamond isnt. Why?
Try doing the tweaks in the tweak thread for a start or if you want flash to another rom ie the TLR rom is pretty fast and tf3d is quite smooth and fast on that rom.
Have a look in the rom section of the forum and see which one sounds good to you.
Yes scrolling in "Programs menu" is reaaally slow ... compared to my previous 200 mhz original Touch it's ten times slower and almost impossible to control it with thumb because it takes a lot of time 'till it scrolls down...
I solved this by creating sub folders in programs menu so I don't need to scroll...
Maybe this is because of VGA display and slow GDI support, but I think this really needs some improvements or tweaks.
Any of existing tweaks I tried don't help - Glyph cache does nothing and Fatfs/Filters cache broke my system so I needed to hard reset... And as I can see this filesystem improvements have no influence on graphics performance...
ROM 1.37.401.3 speeds thinks up little bit, but I think windows GDI performance is still very bad on Diamond...
Is GDI accelerated in other ROM? Or can it be solved with some tweak to original 1.37.401.3 ROM?
Yes the scrolling speed is a real issue, it's laggy and sometimes not responsive.. This is a real pain in my ass because I'm coming from a 1st gen iPhone which had extremely smooth scrolling.
i must be lucky...my scrolling is so fast i wish sometimes to know how to make it slower because i can hardly have time to read the name of the programs before i stop...i usually have to scroll back..
no tweaks applied only bepe's last ROM....the biggest tweak of all
Any chance that HTC can solve this problem? I mean - can´t hardware handle it or just bad software?
Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.
I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.
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Well the newer roms have the newest version of TF3d so maybe you want to try and flash to one of them...im running TLR rom version 2 and its fast and tf3d is smooth as silk although it will still lag but not as much as the stock rom does.
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I think we are not talking about TF3D but about basic scrolling in WM - see http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiVRouS6HwE and on this video it is not so bad - the more programs you have the slower it is...
When I flash the Bepe's ROM can I then flash back to 1.37.401.3 without losing warranty? Do I need to flash back original SPL before and if so - is it available?
pokevitek said:
I just hope that HTC will make some ROM with major performance incerase, becou HW is not bad. Like my A701 mio. First uséable ROM came out after a year.
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You might want to check out someone1234 post in the tweak thread above...hes figured out a way to shorten the lag between scrolling screens...give it a try and see if it helps.
Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.
We must hope that some new ROM will solve this. Anyway, same thing the HTC logo after start or power off. Why it is thare if it is not played smoothly? I know this is becou os phone quick start, but anyway, the should gave a picture there.
Huey85 said:
Yes I was refering to basic scrolling in WM, not TF3D.. My TF3D is running very smooth with no noticeable lag.
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i dont tink its a issue htc can resolve -> its a os problem -> so its a ms problem.
Do you? I dont know how WM6.1, but my last device WM 5 had 5 times faster scrooling. Is diamond scrooling speed on other devices from other brands? Some E-ten? Mio? etc? I think this is exactly kind of issu HTC can solve very easily, if they would want.
Can someone with other than official-production ROM tell us, if scrolling and GDI performance is better?
Thanks
Yes I tried TLR ROM and it is not. But some good news, I found articles about same slow speed in other devices after upgrade on WM 6. I found some tweak too, but it helped only bit. I wil continue, if I sort out this problem, i will tell you how.

Video Drivers for Wings

As see, Htc S730 is very slow in display, because lack of video drivers .
You can compare the experience with running your Windows computer in "safe mode" with the default "VGA driver".
HTCClassAction.org have not been sitting on their hands after the drama about the Kaiser / TyTn II / Tilt's lack of video drivers shook out. Though HTC is not releasing a full set of true drivers, the hackers at HTCClassAction are! They're still basically in “proof-of-concept” mode right now, but the concept, it's proven: full video hardware acceleration is working on a TyTN II and Wings
details at:
http://www.htcclassaction.org/
ROM WM6.1 needed to run this new driver
Geat news! Hoping there will be a 2d/video accelerated version...
I tried installing the CAB using my HTC S730 original WM6.0 ROM ( Yes, I know... was just a silly try)
Result is: "Could not initialize Direct3D" when running the test application.
Is there a way to "uninstall" this driver
Abviously WM6.1 cooked ROM is needed .
Update
I tried registry editing/key deleting, but it seems it is not so simple to partially uninstall: probably some of the original dll are overwritten and I need original ones (or have to hard reset to get non accelerated d3d back... I think...)
This is wonderful news! I'd almost given up my hopes on a proper driver, now i can see the light in the tunnel again! awesome!
From htcclassaction.org:
Update July 17, 2008:
We have D3D running on the TyTN II, check out the Driver progress page for the specifics.
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The S730 is slow? How's that? S730 may not have hw acceleration but it is one of the fastest smartphones and the graphics is way faster then on Kaiser. (Try running TT5/6 on both devices side by side and you will se the much smoother graphics of S730)
I am happy they are putting out more power, but is it only for video or will it optimize the phone overall?
And I would like it to work on the stock phone since not too many cooked 6.1's are 100% yet (although I dont keep up with the threads on them.)
Only D3D for now (but...)
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I am happy they are putting out more power, but is it only for video or will it optimize the phone overall?
And I would like it to work on the stock phone since not too many cooked 6.1's are 100% yet (although I dont keep up with the threads on them.)
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Currently on htcclassaction.org they say it's only a D3D improvement, but they say also that is only a WIP version, and 2D, video and "overall" improvements are work in progress too....
rvanzo said:
Currently on htcclassaction.org they say it's only a D3D improvement, but they say also that is only a WIP version, and 2D, video and "overall" improvements are work in progress too....
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Thats what I figured from the site, hopefully they will finish it up and release it for the stock phone.
I am glad someone is working on it. Its been how long since HTC said they were going to do "something" about it lol.
Have anybody tried installing those drivers on any 6.1 WM on s730 ? Worked ? Better ? Worse ? I know that there is no official rom but maybe works on Alcaline or other. Are there ROMs with this driver integrated ?
I am looking for the package on their site but can't find the one for Wings. Anyone got any luck?
Kaiser is similar to Wings. Kaiser has touchscreen which isn`t included in Wings. Maybe works on 6.1 ? I don`t know? If works then i will install new rom else 6.0 is also good...
Actually I am using CCWAV's 6.5 ROM. I don't know what could a driver do any more to my mobile, it is working smoothly as it is.

TouchFlow

Hi
My TouchFlow version is 3.0
I have found here TF version 3.8
What are the changes?
It is a bit smoother
yeche said:
Hi
My TouchFlow version is 3.0
I have found here TF version 3.8
What are the changes?
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Finally someone started a thread about TouchFlow...
I was waiting for this...
The subject of the thread directly caught my attention and made me eager to participate...
I think about starting a request thread for a search option in this forum...
...
Sorry for being offtopic here...
Bad day at the office I guess...
where to get and how to update? cheers
Ok... used the search to try and find the latest version number for TF3D and it brought up hundreds of listings - I guess its been spoken of often
So to repeat...
How does one get the latest version and install it to improve the Diamond ? yeche you say you found it ... where ?
Or are sushi's themes the latest real Diamond ones ?
If so - problem solved.
It´s a good question..it is possible to change/upgrade HTC manila version without flashing whole ROM??
I would like to know this too? My TouchFlo 3D is only v 1.0.1630.23. Can I put v3 or 3.8 on somehow without reflashing?
Edit. OK I see now that TouchFLO 3D version gets reported differently depending on where I look. If I look in TFL3D > Settings > About I see
TouchFlo 3D 1.0.1630.23
If I look in WM6.1 Settings TouchFLo I see v 3.0 (build 29946). I think I am confusing TouchFLO 3D with TouchFLO. That aside can I update either without reflashing.?

Uninstall TouchFLO3D

Hi guys. I'm new here, so please forgive me for n00b questions.
Got Diamond few weeks ago, but I just cant work with stupid TouchFLO3D. It just tooo slow for me (even with speed tweaks) and eats too much RAM. Is there any way to uninstall TouchFLO 3D and install TouchFLO from Touch or Touch Dual, which is faster. Or just uninstall TF3D and leave default WinMobile view?
Thanks in advance, sorry if this theme already been here.
you can uncheck tf3d from your today settings or you can download at clean or light version of some roms. they are stripped of tf3d.
Thanks, disabled it, but it still not enough fast.
About flashing roms. Main problem is that I have russian version of ROM, and I dont know, will english roms compatible with my diamond, so i ned the way to save my rom b4 flashing.
Will read forum. Thanks.

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