Hi everyone. I have been doing a tonne of reading trying to figure out a couple of things for my Treo 750.
It is a Rogers phone for which I paid an online service provider to unlock. I am using my FIDO SIM in it without any problems.
It says I am always roaming and although assurances from FIDO I won't be charged Roaming fees, it gets kind of annoying everytime I check my email that it tells me I am roaming and asks if I am sure I want to do this....
So, I understand there is carrier specific info in the carrier.pxp file. I am told the Rogers network code is in this file.
Am I able to edit this to include the FIDO network code 302370 so the phone doesn't think it is always roaming?
Would it be better to unbrand / unlock the phone to WM6.1 via the methods I see here in the forums? [dubLeE's method].
Thanks everyone,
Ryan
It has nothing to do with your phone. It's the fact you are using the Fido GSM card on a Rogers network. It has nothing to do with whether your phone is locked or unlocked, and changing the carrier code won't do anything.
To disable the roaming network check when you check email, from Outlook Mobile go to Tools -> Options, choose the email account you've setup, then go to Send/Receive Schedule -> Advanced Settings -> check "Use automatic send / receive schedule when roaming"
Hi number16. Thanks for the reply.
The "Use automatic send / receive schedule when roaming" doesn't seem to prevent the "You are currently roaming. Synchronizing may result in additional charges" dialog box when the schedule is set to manual. In fact, the checkbox is greyed out and not selectable with a manual schedule. Even with an automated schedule configured, you are still prompted when doing a manual send/receive.
I was thinking that if the phone was configured such that it thought its' home network carrier code was the FIDO code, it wouldn't consider me roaming.
Anyways, sounds like I am stuck with it. Thanks again for the info
I have the exact same problem with my work Exchange email on a Rogers Touch Diamond. The roaming has to be defined by the ROM or registry. When I put my Fido SIM in a Rogers Samsung Jack flashed with the Fido ROM, there is no issue with roaming.
Hi there,
Same issue here, I am using my unlocked Treo 750 from Rogers on Bell network.
It works fine, except for the roaming issue.
How to get rid of that triangle icon on the top?
Were you able to edit the carrierDB.pxp file?
Please help.
Did you change your network settings over to the correct settings for the network of the SIM card you are using?
Unlocking a phone will allow other SIM cards to work, but if you don't change your network settings, then the phone will still try to connect to the Rogers network.
How do i unlock the network, i have a samsung corby phone which is rogers based and am using a fido sim card. Everything works except the internet which comes up as network error. please let me know if you can help. email- [email protected], thank you.
alyssaripley18 said:
How do i unlock the network, i have a samsung corby phone which is rogers based and am using a fido sim card. Everything works except the internet which comes up as network error. please let me know if you can help. email- [email protected], thank you.
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This is a Palm Treo 750 forum. You should find a forum specific to your handset for exact instructions.
In general, your phone probably has a 'Settings' menu which would have some sort of option to edit your network settings. That's where you would make the change. You would have to get the proper settings from Fido.
startngate said:
Did you change your network settings over to the correct settings for the network of the SIM card you are using?
Unlocking a phone will allow other SIM cards to work, but if you don't change your network settings, then the phone will still try to connect to the Rogers network.
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If I have the APN set to the one for the network of the SIM Card I am using then will I not get charged roaming?
Is it possible for it to actually be roaming and me not knowing about it?
Related
For some strange reason my phone thinks I am roaming when i'm not and keeps warning me about additional data charges everytime I check my email. I tried to choose my provider from the dropdown list but there are no Canadian providers listed..... and yes I am in Canada. I don't mind the warning so much but it also won't connect automatically and check my email. How can I fix this?
thanks.
Hi Dongetti
Welcome to XDA-Dev
Your question is fine, but it would be better placed in the regular Kaiser forum as it does not related to Upgrading/Development.
I will move it to the Kaiser Forum with an expiring (6hrs) redirect from the Kaiser upgrading Forum. So by tomorrow you will know where to look for it.
Cheers
Mike
Where in canada do you reside? are you close to a border of some kind?
Roam?
I have that same (problem) with my 8525, after I got the Tilt I added a second line and even though the phones have shared minutes and are billed together the Hermes still thinks it's roaming when the Tilt doesn't.
I called the carrier and she told me it was a fix on their end and that I would have to call back to customer service, it's not the phone or ROM.
dongetti said:
For some strange reason my phone thinks I am roaming when i'm not and keeps warning me about additional data charges everytime I check my email. I tried to choose my provider from the dropdown list but there are no Canadian providers listed..... and yes I am in Canada. I don't mind the warning so much but it also won't connect automatically and check my email. How can I fix this?
thanks.
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I'm running Dutty's WM6 on AT&T Tilt, in Toronto on Rogers, works fine.
Thanks for the replies....
By the way, i'm running Sleuth 1.0 on AT&T tilt and no I don't live anywhere near the US border.
I'm having the same damn problem. In the morning there's a stupid triangle up on my today screen. Is that what you are talking about?
No my problem is this:
go to control panel (start -> settings ).
Then go to the connections page.
Then tap connection setup, it will give you a list of Countries to choose from and and then a list of providers below that. The problem is that my provider is not listed and that makes the phone think i'm roaming when I am not. Even though I enter my connection settings manually it won't connect 'automatically' to check my email. Therefore, I have to go in and send/receive manually to see if I got any new mail and it always warns me that i'm roaming(when i'm not) and checking my email may result in data charges.
That's not your problem, you can always manually configure your connection settings to your carrier's.
The problem is that your phone think's it's roaming based on the wireless signals from the tower...
dongetti, probably you're using fido sim?
if that's the case, then it's not fixable. As you know since Robbers acquired Fido, they have integrated the tower. But for some reason, the code for fido was being left in your sim (they don't change it to Robber's code). No other choice than to use Rogers signal, since that's the only one available now anyway.
Are there roaming charges if it is roaming between rogers and fido? even after the merger?
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Are there roaming charges if it is roaming between rogers and fido? even after the merger?
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No there wont be any roaming charges.. for more info on this check the fido section in the howard forums website, also you can check with fido's customer service about this issue
i've been with fido for about 3 years now with an unlocked phone right from the start and every phone i've had has the little roaming symbol at the top, but i've never seen any roaming charges on it yet
Hello all,
I have searched these forums high and low, but could not find a solution to my problem. I have a Kaiser which I use on the Canadian provider Fido. Since late 2004, Fido is a wholly owned subsidiary of Rogers, another Canadian wireless provider. Fido and Rogers now share one same network: Rogers'. My problem is that my Kaiser, having a Fido SIM in it, seems to always think it is roaming because it is connecting to the Rogers network. This causes me a problem since I cannot tell my phone to only download when on my home network, otherwise I would never be able to download anything (since I am always roaming). If I tell my phone to download even when roaming, I cannot control my usage when I actually am roaming in another country. I know there must be some kind of setting somewhere that I can adjust to make my phone think it is not roaming while connected to Rogers' network, I just don't know what it is. No matter what ROM I try, I can't get rid of that pesky "roaming triangle"! My gf's phone, a Samsung Jack, does not think it is forever roaming, so I know it is possible.
Does anyone have any insight on this?
Thanks in advance!
Dom
Hello there.
I have used my kaiser with Saudi Sim card, Lebanese Sim card, Jordanian Sim card and now FIDO sim card. Ive always had this triangle and has never affected my data plan.
bteljuice said:
Hello there.
I have used my kaiser with Saudi Sim card, Lebanese Sim card, Jordanian Sim card and now FIDO sim card. Ive always had this triangle and has never affected my data plan.
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Me too, I even had my roaming turned off by Fido for some time and the triangle was still there.
Thanks for the input, guys. I know that the roaming icon will not prevent me from accessing 3G data. What it does prevent me from doing, though, is differentiating between "real" roaming (i.e. in another country) and "fake" roaming (i.e. on the Rogers network). As it stands, all settings which can be set to "use 3G data only when not roaming" are ineffective as I would never be able to download anything if they were enabled.
I hope that clears things up. And I hope that someone smarter than I am has a solution for this problem.
Thanks again!
Hello, I have the exact same phone on the exact same fido network and have the roaming triangle as well. It does not affect your data/voice plan at all. (ie. if you are in the Canada, you will not be charged for roaming). This is all explained in the following link:
http://howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=837503
Essentially the gist of it is that you are "roaming" on the rogers network, but since they are the same company, it doesn't matter or affect any of your plans. I have used my 6GB data plan from Fido with no extra charges.
It does effect some programs that do provide options for disabling web traffic when roaming (ie. hotmail push e-mail from windows live) as these programs will always think you are on another network.
What I have done is, predominantly, I use my wifi connection where available and have turned off all the "disabling traffic when roaming" options in various apps. Then in the fido internet (3G;GPRS) settings, I did not include the password. What this does is that when I connect to the internet without wifi it asks me for my password which I then enter to connect. Definitely mildly inconvenient, but prevents me from 'accidentally' connecting to the internet when in the US.
Thanks ibhimani.
I have taken similar measures to prevent roaming fees, but I use MoDaCo's NODATA app, instead. Basically, it allows me to completely turn off all cellular data connections (WiFi remains intact) while I am away.
Still, I don't think this is a real solution; it is a workaround at best. I know there is a way to force the phone to recognize the Rogers network as a "Home" network since my gf's Samsung Jack does not claim to be roaming at all times. I will try to look through the registry on the Jack to see if there is some setting I can tweak to achieve the desired effect. I'll let you all know if I find something.
That would be great. Thanks in advance.
No luck!
Hi all,
After a little research in the registry of my gf's Samsung Jack, I've found that the way the network is handled on it is different than on our HTC. The Samsung uses something called MITSMan.exe (Mobile Intelligent Terminal by Samsung Manager) which can identify the network correctly on her phone, but not on ours. Unfortunately, this is not reusable for us. The search continues. Hopefully, a WinMo HTC device will launch on Fido sometime soon so I can reuse something from it.
If I find anything else, I'll post it here.
I have a Nokia e62 and the Samsung Jack from Fido. Both these phones do not show the roaming icon. Must be some sort of custom firmware brewed for Fido by the manufacturers.
BTW - I am now using a Samsung Omnia II. This shows roaming too.
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I have a Nokia e62 and the Samsung Jack from Fido. Both these phones do not show the roaming icon. Must be some sort of custom firmware brewed for Fido by the manufacturers.
BTW - I am now using a Samsung Omnia II. This shows roaming too.
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Hi hameedx,
With a Samsung Omnia II, you may be able to make a change to the registry to make it think you're on the home network, if it works like the Samsung Jack. On your Jack, search through the registry for something called MITSman. There should be a value corresponding to Fido's carrier code (MNC-MCC), which is 302-370 (or 302-720, which is Rogers'). It may actually be easier to search for these values. If the Omnia also uses MITSman, then you might be able to make the registry entries on it look like the ones on the Jack. If you need more detail about the registry entries, I could get them when I have access to a Jack again.
I searched the Jack's registry for anything with 302 720 370 72 37. Couldn't find any meaningful entry. Perhaps it is a DLL that we need to replace?
I believe that the Fido Samsung Jack has roaming indicator disabled completely. I used a Telus SIM in the Jack and does not show roaming. The Telus SIM shows roaming when I put it in other unlocked phones.
I am brand new to this site and this is my first post so please bear with a newbie. Just got a great deal online for a new Rogers HTC Dream. I bought an unlock code in order to use the phone with Telus my current carrier. I bought a sim card and had my plan changed to a data plan. Now here's the part that is frustrating me, I can not access the Telus data network. The phone works fine for phoning and text messaging, wifi works great, but if I try to access mobile data network I get "No network Connection". I checked with Telus added the Telus APN settings and set as default and still no luck. Any help will be greatly appreciated.
Do you have a 3G or H icon in the Notification bar?
Unfortunately I have neither.
Try getting the Telus APN settings. Then go to APN settings and add it in. This SHOULD work.
APNhav
I called Telus tech support, HTC support and setup the Telus apn and it is set as the default all before posting here. However I still can't access the data network. Will I have to root the phone in order to access the data network?
Hi. I live in Europe, I was jealous of you guys, so I ordered Moto on ebay. To save some cash, I ordered locked AT&T version. Everything went great, I was able to unlock the phone, it accepted the sim card, I can make calls and send SMS. So far, so good.
Then I turned on mobile data. And...nothing happend.
To clarify: Using the same sim card, I was able to use mobile data on good old Samsung i9000, so the data is activated. It's there and should work.
So I started looking around in settings, tried turning on the data roaming and looked into the "about phone" section.
Here's what it says:
Mobile Network Type: EDGE
Service state: In service
Roaming: Not roaming
Mobile Network State: Disconnected
Is there something I need to do to "force" the connection, or should I rather discuss this with my mobile network provider?
Thanks for any help
P.S. I tried the usual stuff like reboot and eject sim and put it back, I even switched from ART back to Dalvik, The phone is running latest avaliable KitKat and is not rooted.
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Hi. I live in Europe, I was jealous of you guys, so I ordered Moto on ebay. To save some cash, I ordered locked AT&T version. Everything went great, I was able to unlock the phone, it accepted the sim card, I can make calls and send SMS. So far, so good.
Then I turned on mobile data. And...nothing happend.
To clarify: Using the same sim card, I was able to use mobile data on good old Samsung i9000, so the data is activated. It's there and should work.
So I started looking around in settings, tried turning on the data roaming and looked into the "about phone" section.
Here's what it says:
Mobile Network Type: EDGE
Service state: In service
Roaming: Not roaming
Mobile Network State: Disconnected
Is there something I need to do to "force" the connection, or should I rather discuss this with my mobile network provider?
Thanks for any help
P.S. I tried the usual stuff like reboot and eject sim and put it back, I even switched from ART back to Dalvik, The phone is running latest avaliable KitKat and is not rooted.
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You didn't mention whether you checked the APN settings. My guess is that because you purchased a locked AT&T device and then unlocked it, you don't have an APN setup for your European provider. APN will be in Settings -> More -> Mobile Networks ->Access Point Names. If you go in there and either there is nothing listed or it's not the APN your mobile provider recommends, you will need to manually create the proper APN. I'm sure a quick Google Search for your provider's APN settings on Android will get you the answer.
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You didn't mention whether you checked the APN settings. My guess is that because you purchased a locked AT&T device and then unlocked it, you don't have an APN setup for your European provider. APN will be in Settings -> More -> Mobile Networks ->Access Point Names. If you go in there and either there is nothing listed or it's not the APN your mobile provider recommends, you will need to manually create the proper APN. I'm sure a quick Google Search for your provider's APN settings on Android will get you the answer.
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I knew I was missing something important "Copied" the APN settings from old phone and it worked like charm. Thanks a lot
Interesting thing is that on that old Samsung, I tried new ROM every month or so and never had this problem. The phone just "knew" what to do. Guess these are the perks of unlocked devices, right?
daemontus said:
I knew I was missing something important "Copied" the APN settings from old phone and it worked like charm. Thanks a lot
Interesting thing is that on that old Samsung, I tried new ROM every month or so and never had this problem. The phone just "knew" what to do. Guess these are the perks of unlocked devices, right?
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Glad that worked. Correct, Custom ROM's often self-provision based on a database of Carrier/APN's.
hi
i got the phone from korea, the problem is when connecting to 4G the phone would lose internet and calls then lose the network, i get a message saying "failed to register to network (15)" but if i forced the phone to connect to 3G then it works fine. here's what i tried to fix the problem :
turning off the mobile network then turning it on
resetting the network settings
removing NR Whitelist
and none of them fixed the issue. there's a korean menu in the service mode, but i didn't miss with it. i have attached screen shots of the software information and the korean menu in the service menu.
Who provides your service? Have you tried going into network settings and APN and see what that says
If it is a Korean phone and you aren't in Korea and it is locked into the network then you won't be able to get service somewhere else I don't think
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Who provides your service? Have you tried going into network settings and APN and see what that says
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im using my local non korean sim card and it's working fine, and im also using my local sim's APN settings, the sim card is not korean and nor are the APN settings.
i want to exhaust all my available options before i go for the format.